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When Computers Were Human

stern writes "In the not-so-distant past, engineers, scientists and mathematicians routinely consulted tables of numbers for the answers to questions that they could not solve analytically. Sin(.4)? No problem: look it up in the Sine table. These tables were prepared by teams of people called computers (no, really -- that's where the term comes from) who typically had only rudimentary math skills. The computers were overseen by more knowledgeable mathematicians, who designed the algorithms and supervised their work." Read below for Stern's review of David Alan Grier's book When Computers Were Human. When Computers Were Human author David Alan Grier pages 424 (with index and table of names) publisher Princeton University Press rating worth reading reviewer Stern ISBN 0691091579 summary A history of the first "computers", semi-literates who did math by hand

The most important of these teams was the Mathematical Tables Project, organized by the Work Projects Administration in the United States during the Great Depression. WPA rules required the hiring of people with virtually no skills, so much of the definitive work of the Mathematical Tables Project was computed by people who had mastered only addition. They were not authorized to subtract, let alone delve into the mysteries of multiplication or division. The algorithmic steps assigned to them sometimes produced negative numbers, and it goes almost without saying that these computers had no idea what these were or how to handle them. Gertrude Blanch, the mathematician who oversaw their work, had devised a scheme whereby positive numbers would be written in black, negative numbers in red. On the wall in front of her human computers hung a poster that encapsulates much of the era of human computing. It read:

Black plus black is black
Red plus red is red
Black plus red or red plus black, hand the sheets to team 2

Grier has written a history of human computing. It begins in the 1760s and continues through the two hundred years until digital computers ended the industry.

From the start, computers were dedicated to projects in astronomy, cartography, and navigation. Grier describes the nature of these problems and why they required numerical solutions. He touches on the alternating competition and cooperation between teams of computers in different countries, and the different organizational models they employed. Perhaps the most memorable fact from the early years of human computing is that the very first team of French computers, assembled by Gaspard Clair Francois Marie Riche de Prony in the early 1790s, was composed entirely of wig-makers left unemployed by the French Revolution. They created trigonometric tables required by France's experiments with the decimalization of trigonometry (an abandoned effort to do for angle measure what the metric system was doing for the measurement of mass, length, and so forth).

Their work, though of little ultimate relevance to the modern world, illustrates aspects of human computing that would not change. Major computing efforts were always sponsored by governments. A small number of planners oversaw work by people who themselves knew little math. And the bulk of the work was done by people who were marginalized, perhaps otherwise unemployable, and who would do the repetitive calculations. This work conferred no prestige, and many were skeptical even of the conclusions drawn from it. If an equation could not be properly solved, how could one take confidence from any numerical approximation? Even Henry David Thoreau worked a dig at human computers into the manuscript for Walden, dismissing the mathematics that might allow an astronomer "to discover new satellites of Neptune but not detect the motes in his eyes, or to what vagabond he is a satellite himself."

Women emerged as the most important computers. Demand for computing spiked in wartime, when young men were off fighting and therefore unavailable, and the economics of hiring women was compelling even in peacetime. They would work for half of what similarly skilled men would. By World War II, in the United States, computing power was measured not in megahertz or teraflops, but in kilogirls.

By the 20th century, the work of human computers was augmented by mechanical or even electrical calculators that automated certain steps of their work, but these were expensive and prone to breakdown, and did not significantly change the nature of the work.

Grier devotes special attention to the Mathematical Tables Project run by the WPA, later taken over by the National Bureau of Standards, and to the mathematician Gertrude Blanch who ran that team. She is fascinating, a woman who arrived in the United States at the age of 11, who had worked to support her family and not been able to get her Ph.D until she was 39 years old. It was then 1936, the middle of the Great Depression, and the job prospects for female, Jewish mathematicians were bleak. Through luck and hard work she found her way to the Mathematical Tables Project, where she assumed a role that combined mathematician, schoolteacher, and coach. Her fanatical attention to error-checking resulted in tables good enough to win the support of those who were skeptical of work by a government relief organization. She also led by example, and solved certain problems personally when she thought that would be easier than breaking down the algorithms for her computers. Grier says that Blanch in this way personally did work that backed Hans Bethe's Nobel prize-winning model of solar evolution, though it is unclear if Bethe ever knew that the math had been done by one mathematician, rather than her computers. After the war, Blanch was hampered by FBI suspicions that she was secretly a communist. Their evidence for this was nearly nonexistent, and in what must have been a remarkable showdown, this diminutive fifty-year-old mathematician demanded, and won, a hearing to clear her name. She worked productively in numerical mathematics and algorithms for the rest of her life, but remained forever suspicious of digital computers and never adopted them herself.

Grier does excellent research, tracking down surviving computers and sorting through family letters to tell the stories of an entire industry that is being forgotten. He even finds evidence for the working environment for the women computers at Harvard Observatory in the late 1870s in the lyrics to a satire of Gilbert & Sullivan's HMS Pinafore, written by a junior astronomer there at the time.

The book is beautifully printed and has a comprehensive index. Kudos to the Princeton University Press for taking such pride in their work.

When Computers Were Human is weak in several areas. First, Grier glosses over technical aspects of human computing. What were the algorithms that these people used? How was error-checking implemented? He never tells us. Clearly, Grier's goal was to write a work of history, not math, but the people likely to read it are people who care about the math, or about computers, and he omits material that such readers would expect. Second, this is a bureaucratic story. The best human computing was done by large teams sponsored by government in wartime, and the story of these teams revolves around the politicians or bureaucrats who arranged for their funding, and the various acronym-labeled groups that gave them work or provided their employees. At times, it reads as much like a history of agricultural policies as a text about the prehistory of computers.

Grier's story follows his sources: he devotes space to the groups where he has the most material, even if others may have been larger or done more important work. Finally, his discussion of digital computers, where they play a role in the story, is cursory, and may not give credit to those who deserve it.

Is it worth reading? Yes. Consider the reviews of the final tables published by the Bureau of Standards at Amazon.com: In comments as recent as 2004, people who are still using these 50-year-old volumes comment in several languages on which chapters of the books are most useful, where to beware of errors or outdated methods, and on the special emotional role that these volumes play for those who use them, or who needed them in the past. "I probably would never have gotten my Ph.D without this book, and it is a stupendous classic." "Nearly every time you need a mathematical relation or information you will find it on this book." "If you work with mathematical research or numerical computing, you must have this book," and so forth. This praise, and Grier's book, are fine testaments to the world's first computers.

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  1. Slide rules... by Fjornir · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can have my circular slide-rule when you pry it from my cold dead fingers.

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    1. Re:Slide rules... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      According to my actuarial table, if you are still using a circular slide rule, I may not have have very long to wait.

    2. Re:Slide rules... by Fjornir · · Score: 4, Interesting

      But you're missing out on the real wins of a slide-rule (especially the circular ones). First: arbitrary precision. Second: better grasp of the relationships between two numbers (consider the difference in feeling between a quarter-twist and four twists)....

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    3. Re:Slide rules... by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Interesting

      But you're missing out on the real wins of a slide-rule (especially the circular ones). First: arbitrary precision. Second: better grasp of the relationships between two numbers

      Third: geek factor
      Fourth: no batteries needed

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    4. Re:Slide rules... by jimbolauski · · Score: 2, Funny

      But a slide rule can't spell BOOBIES upside down.

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    5. Re:Slide rules... by dasunt · · Score: 4, Informative
      You can keep your slide rule, and I'll keep my TI. Which can calculate sin,cos,tan as well as e and pi to 10 digits.

      Lets let wikipedia rebutt this:

      Advantages: A slide rule tends to moderate the fallacy of "false precision" and significance. The typical precision available to a user of a slide rule is about three places of accuracy. This is in good correspondence with most data available for input to engineering formulas (such as the strength of materials, accurate to two or three places of precision, with a great amount--typically 1.5 or greater--of safety factor as an additional multiplier for error, variations in construction skill, and variability of materials). When a modern pocket calculator is used, the precision may be displayed to seven to ten places of accuracy while in reality, the results can never be of greater precision than the input data available."
    6. Re:Slide rules... by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      When a modern pocket calculator is used, the precision may be displayed to seven to ten places of accuracy while in reality, the results can never be of greater precision than the input data available."

      It would be remarkably trivial for pocket calculators to analyze the input data and determine how many significant figures are approprate. Why so few models offer this feature, even as an optional mode, I do not understand.

    7. Re:Slide rules... by bcrowell · · Score: 4, Informative

      I use a slide rule rather than a calculator or computer in situations where it's appropriate. I have a cute little one I carry in my pants pocket, comes in very handy. Here is some discussion of the advantages of slide rules. Actually there's quite a big community of people who like slide rules, and nice ones tend to go for quite a bit of money on e-bay. When's the last time you actually needed to calculate something to eight decimal places?

    8. Re:Slide rules... by RealAlaskan · · Score: 2
      My understanding is that space travel, like a trip to the moon, requires some very precise calculations.

      Yes.

      Was 3 digits of accuracy sufficient for the moon shots?

      No.

      Did NASA engineers do different slide rules?

      Yes.

      Did they use computers to make the calculations?

      They used 7-place log tables for the calculations which required more than the four digits which you could get from a 20 inch slide rule.

      I still have a set of Baron Vega's log tables which I used in high school. No, I never used log tables for engineering: I got to college a year or so after slide rules were dropped from the curriculum. The crusty old engineering profs were insistant that we have good scientific calculators, and that we know how to use them quickly and effectively. They also told tales about a hangar full of computers at Boeing during WWII: many hundreds of women who spent their shifts doing additions on hand-cranked adding machines.

  2. OSS Computers? by cloudofstrife · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now what's the percentage of the businesses/governments that used open source software/algorithms on their human computers?

  3. Imagine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...a beowolf cluster of those!

    (p.s. I'm not wasting perfectly good karma on this)

  4. Obligatory Question by Foolomon · · Score: 3, Funny

    But can they boot up with Linux? And when the supervisory mathematicians added a new table for them to use, did you have to recompile them? :D

    1. Re:Obligatory Question by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

      Other important questions:

      - what happened to them when they were told to calculate the following problem: "Add one to a positive number and do it again until the result is null, then come tell me the result"

      - did you have to put thermal grease under their butt to sit them on a socket-7 chair? and did they need a fan on their forehead?

      - if you asked them to divide 20 by 4, would they sometime answer 4.99999999?

      - Did they use their fingers to write on a certain sheet (address) and their feet to switch sheets (segments)?

      etc...

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  5. David Alan Grier? by aftk2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Did he write this book before or after his seminal work on "In Living Color": When Television Was Funny.

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    1. Re:David Alan Grier? by Qzukk · · Score: 5, Funny

      One would think that with a naming convention that allows two or more alphabetic names plus a possibility of a trailing number that parents would manage to name the people they create in a non-colliding fashion. Obviously we need to create namespaces to further subdivide the population of names to help disambiguate such conflicts.

      I propose that we begin using a word to identify said namespaces. Let's call it a "title". When we then refer to a specific person, we then refer to them by title. For example, and I'm just making this up here, we may want to have several committee meetings before we settle on these namespace titles, we could refer to this person as "Comedian David Alan Grier". This would disambiguate references to that person from another person... lets call him "Professor David Alan Grier".

      Of course this is just an idea in formation stages. We'll need to hold off on any action until we have an RFC with approvals from the appropriate naming organizations and an ISO standard to help ensure worldwide compatibility.

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  6. Truly amazing... by Gopal.V · · Score: 4, Interesting
    It is very very humbling to think about all those teams sitting around calculating the sine and log for the damned tables. I hated to even use a slide-rule or the log tables - the only thing I could do in my head was approximate square roots. These are the real pioneers who made most of modern engineering math possible.

    The more interesting part is the title rather than the blurb though. It sounded almost like when men were men, women were women and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were small furry creatures. Sadly this seems to be a story about the people who bothered the so called computers rather than a story of grit and glory - a story of buearacracy and communist witch hunts ?.

    1. Re:Truly amazing... by quarkscat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The parent and /. review reminds me about my time
      working as a sub-subcontractor on the Hubble Space
      Telescope. The development teams for the science
      instrument packages that were to upgrade (prior to
      the SST accident) the HST would check the output
      of Oracle database stored procedures by comparing
      trig functions with those from a 20 year old trig
      tables book.

      If you thought proofreading the book in the grand-
      parent /. post book review was tedious, imagine
      having to proofread the data tables in that 20
      year old trig book! The adjective "mind-numbing"
      keeps reappearing, like an "8-ball" answer...

  7. My God! by ShaniaTwain · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Sandiego Supercomputer is made of people! You've got to tell them! Sandiego Supercomputer is people!

    1. Re:My God! by EMH_Mark3 · · Score: 5, Funny

      That would have worked soo much better with 'Soylent Cray'

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  8. Human computer license? by Iriel · · Score: 2, Funny

    So if computers are originally human, does that put the brain under the GPL liscense or are we stricly proprietary hardware?

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  9. Dear Old Mum by Stanistani · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My mother was one of those computers - she worked in England during WWII, using a 'comptometer' and had no idea what she was computing, despite hearing random roaring noises from elsewhere in the facility, until one fine day she was introduced to a Mr. Whittle, who had designed one of the first jet engines for Great Britain.

    1. Re:Dear Old Mum by tritesnikov · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My grandmother actually has a comptometer that I played with when I was younger. I haven't used it in years, but it was funky how it actually worked mechanically given that I only knew electronic calculators. You had to do some funny stuff for subtracting, I think you had to hold a lever down and use a number one less than what you were subtracting, but it worked.

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    2. Re:Dear Old Mum by renehollan · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I once owned a comptometer.

      It weighed about 40 lbs. (about 18 kg.) and had lots of mechanical buttons, circular mechanical readouts (think car's odomoeter), and gears, all housed in a neat, if heavy desktop box. It was about the size of a manual typewriter (though it has an AC power cord).

      It could add, but arguably, some fast humans could probably add faster in their heads.

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  10. And You Guys Thought Working The Help Desk Sucked by DanielMarkham · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This sounds like a demeaning, brutal job. Almost like a factory for addition. Can you imagine what these folks talked about when they went home at night?
    "Had a bunch of sevens at the plant today. Thought we never add them all up."
    There's a slide-rule connection here. Oddly enough, numbers that couldn't be computed on a slide rule were deemed irrational. For those interested in slide rules, Here's a short history of the slide rule and here's a guy's collection of slide rules

    Microsoft Taken To Task On Hiring Practices

  11. Re:David Alan Grier by daniel_mcl · · Score: 3, Informative
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  12. What did they eat? by internetjunkiegeorge · · Score: 2, Funny

    Did they feed them pi?

    1. Re:What did they eat? by mopslik · · Score: 3, Funny

      Did they feed them pi?

      Pi are round. They don't provide square meals.

  13. Reminds me of "Souls In The Great Machine" by The_Unforgiven · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Reminds me of "Souls In The Great Machine", a book I read a little while ago. In it, a giant computer is made in a similar way that this describes, sort of, although not all the components are there voluntarily.

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  14. progress? by colmore · · Score: 5, Funny

    So instead of asking a hunk of plastic and metal for answers to math problems, I would have been asking a room full of educated unmarried women?

    This is progress!?!?!

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    1. Re:progress? by Gzip+Christ · · Score: 3, Insightful
      So instead of asking a hunk of plastic and metal for answers to math problems, I would have been asking a room full of educated unmarried women? This is progress!?!?!
      It is for the women.
    2. Re:progress? by Locke2005 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, at least the hunk of plastic and metal doesn't make you buy it dinner and a movie first...

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  15. Not so old, not so past by goombah99 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Many of the great tables were compiled during the depression era. Public works projects. like our bridges and trail systems we live on that legacy and dont appreciate it was aone-off event.

    Well I take that back, George Bush has scheduled the next Depression in about 8 years. See you there in the computer room or the breadline. Your current skills will be worthless during the depression.

    Dont believe me? the national debt had doubled under George. For the current generation that's a debt of about $150,000 per head.

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    1. Re:Not so old, not so past by alw53 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think you have your figures wrong, however,
      this table shows every single Demo president since Carter _decreasing_ national debt as a percentage of GNP, and every Repo president _increasing_ it. So the common wisdom that Demo's overspend vis-a-vis Repo's is just wrong, and your point is basically correct even though the number is wrong.

      http://www.skymachines.com/US_National_Debt_Per_Ca pita_Percent_of_GDP_and_by_President_1976-2004.htm

    2. Re:Not so old, not so past by paploo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      $7.8e12 / 2.96e8 = $26,351.35 per person.

      -2 points for violation of significant figures. (Yeah, I've been a physics TA before). :)

      Seriously, though, this is a (petty and pedantic) pet peeve of mine. You have two sig figs on one number and three on the other. How the hell did you get precision to the nearest penny? You should have $26,000 per person, but if I were grading I'd also accept $26,300 per person since basic sig fig rules aren't precise anyway. (You need error analysis techniques to be better!) :)

  16. Babbage by ch-chuck · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Tables calculated by humans also contained a lot of human errors - I understand Charles Babbage was so frustrated by errors in human calculated tables that he wished for some way they could be calculated "by steam" (engine/machine).

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  17. Parallelism: Feynman's "Los Alamos From Below" by LouisvilleDebugger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Feynman is credited with an early application of parallel processing in the way he divided up his "girls" to do the yield calculations for the first atomic bomb, while they were waiting for IBM machines to be set up at Los Alamos during the Manhattan Project. Instead of each girl doing one whole equation herself, he divided the work so that one girl would only do a single kind of operation (such as cube roots.) In his memoir, "Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman," he writes that with this scheme he was able to get the predicted speed of the IBM machines out of his human computers. "The difference was that the machine didn't get tired and could work three shifts. But the girls got tired after awhile."

    1. Re:Parallelism: Feynman's "Los Alamos From Below" by imsabbel · · Score: 2, Informative

      Thats not parallel computing, that is pipelining.
      But still fascinating, as it is used in modern cpus for the very same reasons it was used back then, only on totally different scales....

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  18. Los Alamos by Muhammar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Most of the tedious calculations in wartime Los Alamos was done by "clever boys with engineering skils and high school diploma" that were drafted into army and then assigned to Los Alamos duty.

    Everybody there was doing the calculations on simple electromechanic calculators "Merchant" which had the unpleasant tendency to break down a lot. (They also used slide rule to get quick fist aproximations). Eventualy they purchased a great number of card-punching machines from IBM (designed for bank account tabelations) and adapted them for iterative numerical calculations by putting them into a *cycle* - a revolutionary idea at the time.

    This stil required lots of people to feed the cards into the machines at each step and the stacks of cards was going round very very slowly. The biggest problem of these calculations was that at this point the boys were pretty bored with the job. When they were told what they were actualy working on, their productivity increased ninefold!

    A very entertaining re-collection of this computing history is in "Los Alamos from bellow" in "Surely you are joking Mr. Feynman"

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  19. Asimov Short Story by CrazyWingman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is a great short story by Asimov, in which many years in the future, man has forgotten how to do math without an electronic computer. It then happens one day that a young man figures out a process for doing addition and multiplication on paper, and shows off his new methods to a bunch of government big wigs. The military planners are overjoyed, and they begin to redesign their rockets so they can fit a man, who will then be able to calculate his trajectory and pilot the missile to its target by using pencil and paper. This is a huge win for all involved, because humans are much cheaper than computers, of course. :)

  20. Re:Sci-Fi Novel by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually there's a good scifi novel called "Dune" in which a class of humans, called "mentats", receive intensive training to be able to perform complex computations.

    From what I remember, there's hardly any machine-computers in Dune. The empire has great technology and all, but it's all manned (space travel by the members of the spacing guild, calculations by mentats, telepathy by the bene gesserit)...

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  21. Kilogirls metric is still in use today... by jeffmeden · · Score: 2, Funny

    By World War II, in the United States, computing power was measured not in megahertz or teraflops, but in kilogirls.
    For what it's worth, I still measure a computer's ability in 'kilogirls' but its not necessarily related to the processor power...

  22. CERN by Adelbert · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Possibly off topic, but a similar thing went on with the old bubble chambers at CERN.

    People wihout much of a background in physics would trall through the images, looking for patterns that they'd been told to look out for.

    I think its important that someone is documenting the work of these heroes of maths and physics. Without them, advancements would have had to wait for the computer revolution. If we don't remember how important their contributions were, I'm sure it will only be a generation before they're forgotten.

  23. Ballistics by layer3switch · · Score: 2, Informative

    During World War I, Naval Ships, mainly battleships relaying on long range artillery such as the Dreadnought used human computation for projectile of artillery. Dreadnought having eight 15-inch guns capable of firing a 1,920-pound projectile 35,000 yards (or 16 miles) and steam turbines reaching a speed of twenty-one knots, gave the extra edge to win the battle through precision of ballistic projectile from far distance.

    Having said that, I believe, some of the points which the article brought up downplayed the importance of those "human computers" in some way.

    I believe, those who filled the occupation as "human computer" led the way for greater precision and more reliable and faster computation if not life saving.

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  24. Full speed to the past by Mac+Scientist · · Score: 4, Informative

    Reminds me of an Asimov story "The Feeling of Power" written by Asimov in 1958. People of the future, who are totally reliant on personal computers, experience the wonder at being able to do arithmetic by hand.

    Are we there yet?

    1. Re:Full speed to the past by Pentagram · · Score: 2, Informative

      On the subject of fiction, it reminded me of an Arthur C. Clarke short story called "Into the Comet". A spacecraft's dodgy computer gets replaced by a beowulf cluster of people with abacuses.

  25. Build your own slide rule by slapout · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If anyone's interested, there are several sites with instructions on creating your own slide rule.

    http://www.sphere.bc.ca/test/build.html

    http://solar.physics.montana.edu/kankel/math/csr.h tml

    etc.

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  26. Re:Sci-Fi Novel by hazem · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, it was a result of the Butlerian Jihad. There was a big war about "thinking machines" and they were banned. Thus, mentats. I'm not sure, however, if the machines were combattants in the war, or just the subject of it.

    Even Star Trek treats the idea in Insurrection. One of the guys living on the paradise planet says, "When you create a machine to do the work of a man, it diminishes the man".

    The people on this project were not mentat-like. They're more like an op-amp in a funky human computer.

  27. Circular Slide Rule here.... by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 2, Interesting
  28. Women as computers? by DrKayBee · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is that when laptops were pretty secretaries?

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  29. Re:Grier? by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 3, Informative

    People could add but not subtract? They could know what a positive number is, but not a negative?

    There was a time when this was true of YOU, y'know.

    Granted, these days most of us in industrialized nations move on and grok subtraction and negative numbers by second grade, but it doesn't seem unreasonable that 3/4ths of a century ago, some unskilled works might have made it to adulthood without getting that far.

  30. Important point about Feynman by BlightThePower · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Feynman isn't credited with that or indeed a lot of things in "Surely you're joking Mr Feynman" and the other one the title of which escapes me. Feynman credits himself with many of those things. I'm not disputing his credentials as a great scientist, for sure he is universally recognised for those things, and as an influencial thinker (especially in self-professed "geek" circles) but even the man's best friends would and indeed on many occasions have pointed out his proclivity for self-promotion and tendency to portray himself in a certain light that might not be entirely accurate in his books.

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    1. Re:Important point about Feynman by TrentL · · Score: 2, Funny

      Feynman isn't credited with that or indeed a lot of things in "Surely you're joking Mr Feynman" and the other one the title of which escapes me.

      I think it was called "Mr. Feynman, How Come You're So Awesome?"

  31. Computer Oral History Collection by MattJ · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Smithsonian has a great interview with Ida Rhodes, who assisted Blanch.
    Here.

  32. I learned calculation with log tables by Qbertino · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The last few years of school I went to waldorf school. We actually learned to use log tables (still got my table book here) and calculators were forbidden.
    We'd draw roots using them and all.
    The reasoning was that anyone can keypunch but understanding what log actually mean is a differn't thing and requires getting your hands dirty. It was at that time when I started programming on my first computer - a PC 1402 Sharp Pocket Computer. Amongst my friends I was the only one that actually understood what these symbols really meant.

    I'm gratefull for our teachers taking us that way. I'd actually do the same. Once you've really understood what logs are all about (and when you do your A levels with log tables you have understood what they're about) tackeling larger math problems is a piece of cake.

    Take this advice: If you have kids, don't let them near/use an electronic calculator to early. Give them log tables or a slide ruler. It's the best was to learn higher math.

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    1. Re:I learned calculation with log tables by pete6677 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I fully agree that calculators are over-used in most high school math classes, but I think this is going a bit too far. There's nothing wrong with allowing trig students to use basic scientific (non-graphing) calculators. I can't imagine how it would make students more productive or to give them a deeper understanding by making them slog through old log tables. Yes, a student should be able to approximate in fraction form the sin, cos, etc. without a calculator, and by all means should be able to do simple math in their heads, but I think it is counter-productive to make high school seniors do long division or mess with log tables.

  33. Most important question of them all... by TiggertheMad · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you run more electricity through them, do they work faster?

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  34. Souls in the Great Machine by Amerist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The opening paragraph reminds me of a fiction book, Souls in the Great Machine by Sean McMullen. Wherein exists technologies that do vast mathematical computations by way of people acting as logic gates and functions. Much in the way that computers worked as described in that paragraph.

  35. Re:Slide rules...I love slashdot by arete · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Your example IS the example of why sigfigs are inherently tricky. Your answer is right - and in addition, decimal places will always get you a reasonable answer. But you've actually increased the number of significant figures (from 3 to 4) - AND that's actually the right answer.

    You get into really, really big problems when you mix flop and integer math, and the calculator couldn't know which one you're doing. The basic problem comes from the fact that "integer" precision is commonly notated the same way as "no precision at all"

    Here's some interesting examples:
    If I divide 1 by 2, the answer should be .5 - so your "dp" thing doesn't work at all - we added a dp of precision.

    If I multiply 5 x.5 as decimals 3 is probably the right answer IF you can guarantee there are no additional sigfigs. But if I entered .5 as a shorthand for the integer 1/2, then 2.5 is absolutely the right answer.

    If I entered 5 x .5 in a calculator and got 3, I would return it immediately.

    Furthermore, 2 1/2 is _probably_ the right answer, because 1/2 is only a small fraction of a significant figure. But your calculator only knows how to display "1/2" as .5, it has no way of displaying or expressing fractional significant figures.

    Going the other way is even worse - unless you're going to make everyone enter everything in SI - which will never happen - there's DEFINITELY no way to differentiate between estimated and real values. What's the right answer to 80 x 90? 7200? or 7000 ? It depends on whether those zeros were significant zeros or placeholders...

    Finally, some really, really crazy things start to go on when you have exponents and the like - very commonly you get cases where you probably meant the base of the exponent to be an integer even if some part of the exponent itself is a decimal - because 2.0 ^ 32.0 has NO significant digits unless the 2 is actually an integer. (even if the 32 DOES have infinite precision. (for instance: 2^32 ~ 4 bil. 1.96^32 ~ 2 bil; 2.04 ~8 bil )

    But nonethless not EVERY exponent is supposed to be an integer - especially when you're simply squaring something (pythagorean theroem on an arbitrary length, anyone? )

    You really need a calculator that is very advanced - not to do the math, but to have input and display that can reasonably interact with how poorly the PEOPLE using them know sigfigs - and how poor an idea the PEOPLE usually have about their input method.

    I've never seen a calculator with an _interface_ that could handle it. I actually think it might be easiest to do in a software calculator (even if my hardware calculator was better at some of the actual math)

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  36. Re:Sci-Fi Novel by bigsmoke · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wikipedia contains more information on why there are no machinal computers in the Dune universe. There was the Butlerian Jihad in the Dune universe, which was a crusade for the destruction of computers, robots, and anything that tries to replace the human mind with a machine (artificial intelligence).

    This battle for supremacy of humans and sentient machines is described in Dune: The Butlerian Jihad, one of the prequels by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson.

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  37. My Mother Was a Computer by robbarrett · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My mom was employed by NASA (aka NACA) as a "computer" during the Mercury space program. In those days, each engineer had his computer and the computers wore skirts (as they liked to say). She did the calculations for the rescue rocket that was mounted on top of the capsule.

    I always enjoy telling people that my mother was a computer. The response I normally get is an understanding and condescending nod.

  38. lowered status of computer science for a while? by peter303 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I remember the early years of computer science as being a secretarial/trade school kind of thing. I remember MIT and Stanford faculty debates as to whether they should even offer an undergraduate major in computer science because it considered too "vocational". If you were a Stanford student in comp sci you got a "stealth degree" as a minor in the math department. At MIT they hid it in electrical engineering and STILL HAVENT granted it independent department status even though at the height of the computers science boom one third of undergraduates majored in this option. Even now MIT refuses to teach a practical introductory computer science course. Their first course has been based on LISP since the late 1960s and still uses the version called SCHEME.

  39. wrong by goombah99 · · Score: 2, Informative
    the great depression was caused by the inability of industry to raise money for expansion, and the lack of consumer liquidity. Which is a complicated way of saying debt became expensive. As the government borrows more the expense of debt grows. Taxes go up and infrastructure goes unmaintained. the price of goods rises and industries collapse for lack of viable markets. voila the depression cycle that starts with loss of liquidity.

    ironically the only reason we have low interest rates right now is the influx of chinese trade dollars into our debt markets. That will dry up ten seconds after the chinese dollar floats. The debt however will remain and have to serviced on the backs of the next generation of income earners.

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  40. Human Computers by SouthendPier · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was one.

    In the summer of '57, at the Southern California
    Cooperative Wind Tunnel, swing shift. Pay
    was $1.60 /hr. + 0.12 shift premium. (Gas
    was about 30 cents / gallon).

    Punching an electromechanical "square root Frieden".
    Weight about 50 lbs., price about $1600.

    The "system" featured overlapped I/O:
    remember previous result
    Left hand:enter new caclulation, start
    Right hand: write down previous result
    while the gears churned...