Slashdot Mirror


Maps on Path to Mass Innovation

Ryan MacCarthy writes "When Google and Yahoo! released their map APIs last week they unleashed a horde of hungry developers eager to integrate their data with the user-friendly maps. Brilliant hacks like Chicago Crime and Craigslist Real Estate are in the midst of switching over to the new API, while sites like MetroFreeFi use the new API to make it easier to find free wi-fi locations in US cities (San Francisco, for example). Imaginative developers, like Alan Taylor (Transparency concept), are digging deep into experimentation to dream up new uses for the maps. It's great to see the innovation when hacks turn to apps." I want to see Los Angeles maps of the action in James Ellroy's novels, and a national map of the worst, funniest tourist traps across the U.S.

36 of 153 comments (clear)

  1. Coming soon to a neighborhood near you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Google hoods... find up to date information of the street gangs in your neighborhood.

    1. Re:Coming soon to a neighborhood near you... by patio11 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      With a database like the Chicago crime statistics, I don't think thats too farfetched. Something similar would really be useful for police departments -- color code the drug deals and murders by gang affiliation and you'll have a pretty good idea of where you need to keep an eye on fairly quickly. I'm guessing Chicago already does something like this internally (praying they do, at any rate), but it might help a smaller city which has trouble with gang territories not lining up with precinct boundaries.

    2. Re:Coming soon to a neighborhood near you... by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually you can do better than that with the chicagocrime.org site -- check out the division into types of crime. So if you want to know where to buy crack or where to get a handjob without leaving your car this map will help you out.

    3. Re:Coming soon to a neighborhood near you... by SmokeSerpent · · Score: 4, Funny

      It could also help the peeping toms coordinate with the publicly indecent to save everyone involved a lot of trouble.

      --
      All kings is mostly rapscallions. -Mark Twain, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
  2. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  3. In more humble words... by Dan+East · · Score: 3, Funny

    People are making use of Google's new free API to show the location of stuff on a map.

    Dan East

    --
    Better known as 318230.
    1. Re:In more humble words... by Tackhead · · Score: 2, Funny
      > People are making use of Google's new free API to show the location of stuff on a map.

      I don't care how well-documented the API happens to be, or whether it's a hack, it's an app, or it's a map. This is not Fark, you are not Admiral Ackbar, and we are not going here!

  4. Wow, that is cool by Blitzenn · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wow, I am impressed. The Craig's list and crime stats are really nicely done.

    Speaking of Craig's List, this could be a disease spreader too. Think of being able to find that horny date close to you from the online personals. Little tags all over saying "Yea! I'm horny! come on over!". lol.

    News headlines, "STD's spread like wildfire with Google's new map API".

  5. Never mind maps... by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Forget 2D maps. It's dead easy to play around with Google Earth - and you don't even need an API.

    Go 'head and try it. Save a location, or folder of locations, as a .kmz file. Then rename it to .zip and unzip it. You'll find a "doc.kml" file, xml-formatted, easy as pie to reverse-engineer and work with.

    1. Re:Never mind maps... by imsabbel · · Score: 2, Informative

      Already done...
      Sombody converted all georeferenced Wikipedia articles of the german version into such a file....
      Flying around the earth, and having a click on mountains, rivers or cities open the wikipedia page in the lower window really feels like playing real world civilisation :)

      --
      HI O WISE PRINCE. WHT TOOK U SO DAM LONG?
    2. Re:Never mind maps... by PenguinOpus · · Score: 4, Informative

      Never mind reverse-engineering KMZ/KML, the spec and a tutorial have just been posted on http://code.google.com./

      Enjoy!

  6. It's been done. by susano_otter · · Score: 2, Funny

    I want to see. . . a national map of the worst, funniest tourist traps across the U.S.

    This will satisfy all your "worst, funniest tourist trap" needs.

    --

    Any sufficiently well-organized community is indistinguishable from Government.

  7. Obligatory by daveschroeder · · Score: 3, Funny

    But I use Mapquest, you insensitive clod!

    Come on, a username of 'iclod', a post to slashdot about a game called 'iCLOD'...it had to be done!

  8. With all this innovation... by ivan256 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...why can't they figure out how to make it so you can get directions to a business by typing in the business name and having the mapping tool cross reference the yellow pages? Why should the user need to know the address?

    1. Re:With all this innovation... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I can get this with Yahoo Yellow Pages. I enter my ZIP for a location, and business name for destination. It brings up a list of businesses, and I can follow a link for maps, follow yet another link for directions.

    2. Re:With all this innovation... by batura · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, Local Search on maps.google.com does a really good job of doing just that. Unless I am misunderstanding your question.

    3. Re:With all this innovation... by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 3, Informative

      You are, and it doesn't.

      Local Search on google uses some crazy algorithms to find things by doing a GOOGLE SEARCH for what you entered, and then showing you addresses on a map found in the pages you referenced. (Basically.)

      Yahoo Yellow Pages is actually a database of business listings, and when you search that, 99% of the time you will get all the businesses.

      Example: I search for haircut near my area in Google Maps, and I get a few nearby haircut salons. I do the same thing in Yahoo Yellow Pages, and I get ALL the salons nearby, which gives me more choices, especially when there is a specific entry I am looking for. I know I will find it with YYP.

      I wish Google would just hurry up and buy some Yellow Pages company's data so they can compete against that. The "Local Search" idea was interesting, but is not comparable or adequate.

      --
      Ironically, the word ironically is often used incorrectly.
  9. Google Earth by jagorev · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Google Earth is even cooler than Google Maps. Why can't they release APIs for Google Earth? Imagine integrating Google Earth into a flight simulator. That's what I'd like to see.

    1. Re:Google Earth by chrisd · · Score: 3, Informative

      See Google Code for a link to the kml docs and tutorial.

      Have fun!

      Chris

      --
      Co-Editor, Open Sources
      Open Source Program Manager, Google, Inc.
  10. Bike/Run maps! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I want to see a map which lets me specify and measure out a route, for planning runs, bike rides, and other such sports. The goal isn't always to get from A to B!

    Ideally, the interface should allow me to highlight a route over existing roads, with fudging for off-road stretches. Locations of water fountains, food stores or restaurants, and bathrooms would be a major plus too. Does such a thing exist yet?

    1. Re:Bike/Run maps! by Oxen · · Score: 2, Interesting
      --
      First you animate. Then you SUSPEND!!!
  11. Map places by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    Believe it or not, there's a map store downtown in the city where I live, but I could remember where it was.

    So I thought I would look it up with Google Maps, and sure enough, I found it!

    Thus rendering my need for the store irrelevant.

  12. Campsites in Cornwall by amembleton · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This last weekend I was trying to use the Cornwall tourist board website to look for a campsite. The problem with it (apart from the search not working in Firefox), was that you couldn't see exactly where in Cornwall each campsite is.

    So, I have extracted the data of each site from the Cornwall tourist board website and have used it along with the Google maps API to create: Campsites in Cornwall

    By the way, Cornwall is in the south-west of England.

    1. Re:Campsites in Cornwall by jrumney · · Score: 2, Informative

      A script is causing Mozilla to run slowly. If it continues, Mozilla may become unresponsive.
      Do you want to abort the script?
      [OK] [Cancel]

      Have these people heard of UI guidelines? Which button am I supposed to press if I want the script to keep running? Cancel?!!!!

  13. map by SparafucileMan · · Score: 2, Funny

    i want a map of every gold mine in the world.

    it should also overlay with oil fields, poulation density, fresh water supply, and power lines.

    muwahahaa.

  14. Ding-Dong by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 3, Funny

    How about maps of the addresses of patent holders? Like cancer clusters...

    --

    --
    make install -not war

  15. Re:Land ownership / plot mapping by chill · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Volusia County, Florida has a basic version of this and has for some time.

    http://webserver.vcgov.org/Address.html

    Starting from the address page, enter a valid address like "544 s floyd cir deltona". This will give you everything on the property, including a rough sketch of the floor plan. Scroll all the way down to "PALMS Mapping" and you can work thru an interactive map of the city getting data on various parcels.

    -Charles

    --
    Learning HOW to think is more important than learning WHAT to think.
  16. lawsuit waiting to happen... by writermike · · Score: 2, Informative

    And it's a shame...

    I used to work on production for Where Magazine in New Orleans. They would publish a map entitled "Where To Go In New Orleans" and I always wondered why they never published a map that showed areas where crimed occurred. At the time, New Orleans was pretty high on the murder-per-capita rates. But there were places that a tourist SHOULD KNOW ABOUT if they wanted to remain with their belongings and alive.

    The magazine said they'd get sued out of existence.

    Admittedly, publishing this kind of information in a magazine does push it under the umbrella of "opinion" unlike the Chicago Crime Maps, but it's a very thin hair to split. Chicago Crime Maps is merely publishing already available public data, but Where Magazine would have done that, too. What's to become of the tourist site that links to the maps?

    --
    If Nalgene water bottles are outlawed, only outlaws will have Nalgene water bottles.
  17. Henry Earl by DigitalCrackPipe · · Score: 2, Funny

    So now the firefox plugin tracking how many times Heny Earl has been arrested for public drunkenness can now be upgraded to a map showing all the locations? Sweet.

  18. satellite-map mismatch of 0.1 to 2 kilometres by dankelley · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I've started using this, and there is a problem for close-up work. The satellite view is distorted by a kilometre or two in the rural region in which I am interested. It seems to be good to about 0.1 km in the city in which I live. I have not done enough testing to know what causes the problem, but it is not difficult to imagine that it's simply a lack of control points in rural areas.

    The upshot of this is that if you want to put location balloons on a satellite image, you may need to do some ad hoc adjustments to the latitude and longitude ... which I would guess you'll have to keep changing as google gradually improves the satellite presentation.

    I've started a thread on the topic on the google map api discussion group, and at least one other person has noticed the same problem.

  19. So when are we going to be able to see ... by constantnormal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... Google maps of fictional places? I can see all kinds of tie-ins to (e)book publishing -- imagine if the Marauder's Map in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets could be accessed by the reader at any point in the story, of the potential of interactive maps of Narnia or (Alice in) Wonderland in drawing the reader into the story a bit more, blurring the boundaries between reading and gaming.

    Seems like all it would take is for Google to accept the publisher's business, and post the maps.

  20. Custom maps for your site by no1here · · Score: 2, Informative

    I created a page that lets you customize a map for inclusion on your website. The site is at http://shiwej.com/sitemapper/. You enter in a few options, and get code that you can put right on your site. And it's easy to create the Google Maps API key that is required for the map to work on your site.

  21. Sex Offenders? by fkingarightdoggy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So here is a question.. The API TOS says "We also want to respect people's privacy, so the API should not be used to identify private information about private individuals." So if your state publishes sex offenders addresses online are you able to publish that information using google maps?

  22. Funny you should mention that... by randomiam · · Score: 3, Insightful
    A couple of weeks ago, I was looking for overheads of an air separation plant (for my father, who wants to put one in his model rail road set). I figured this would be easy to do as Praxair has a major production facility in Niagara County, one county north of me. Much to my chagrin, the plant was imaged with the low res photos. Curiosity piqued, I looked at some other 'sensitive' sites in the area. Here's what I found:

    This is the overhead of the niagara falls hydropower resevoir. The power station is lo res, but the neighborhood isn't.

    This is the site of a Dupont factory, a Dunlop Tire factory and a General Motors plant. All low res.

    This view shows a CSX rail depot in the north east and the Buffalo River (which has a plant for making HCl among other things iirc) in the south west. Both blurred.

    Now, I have no problem with denying high resolution images of sensitive areas to the civilian population (especially since the areas I've shown you are all prominently featured in the bad dreams of local emergency services types). But if that's the criterion for deciding what's obscured and what isn't, the result is slapdash. This photo shows a cheese factory. Those white tanks are NH3 tanks for the refrigeration system. Since the winds here are usually from the south west or west, the cloud resulting from a leak in the ammonia system would blow right over one of the more densly populated neighborhoods in Buffalo. Clearly, this should have been obscured as well (Except you can see pretty much the whole thing from the street, which isn't true of the other examples).

    It would seem that someone already read your mind SparafucileMan.What I want to know is who; Google, the local government, the national government (DHS or whoever), the owners of stuff being obscured?

    Discuss.

    1. Re:Funny you should mention that... by randomiam · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I was thinking of something like that, only the airspace over Niagara Falls itself is highly restricted, yet the photos are clear as can be. Also, there are high res images of other places which for sure have overflight restrictions, like airports. This composite of BOS was for sure not taken from an airplane (you can zoom in on the airplanes on final).

      Maybe someone will know for sure out there, but aren't the keyhole satelites capable of resolving down to 1 meter? I thought the high resolution images were from satelites.

  23. Google Maps is cool by multiplexo · · Score: 3, Interesting
    It's weird though what they will and won't let you view. You can't see the roof of the White House but you can look at the NSA activity out at Yakima Firing Center in Washington.

    I'd like to see the next dimension that Google Maps add be time. It would be cool if it were possible to have all of the satellite imagery from the last 40 years or so going right up to today with a fleet of googlesats providing near real-time imagery and then scroll through it all. Man, this makes me wish I were smart enough to work at Google.

    --
    cheap labor conservatives - they want to keep you hungry enough to be thankful for minimum wage.