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Maps on Path to Mass Innovation

Ryan MacCarthy writes "When Google and Yahoo! released their map APIs last week they unleashed a horde of hungry developers eager to integrate their data with the user-friendly maps. Brilliant hacks like Chicago Crime and Craigslist Real Estate are in the midst of switching over to the new API, while sites like MetroFreeFi use the new API to make it easier to find free wi-fi locations in US cities (San Francisco, for example). Imaginative developers, like Alan Taylor (Transparency concept), are digging deep into experimentation to dream up new uses for the maps. It's great to see the innovation when hacks turn to apps." I want to see Los Angeles maps of the action in James Ellroy's novels, and a national map of the worst, funniest tourist traps across the U.S.

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  1. Coming soon to a neighborhood near you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Google hoods... find up to date information of the street gangs in your neighborhood.

    1. Re:Coming soon to a neighborhood near you... by lars@aronsson.se · · Score: 1

      Talking of smart mobs...

      Seriously, is it only me or hasn't there been a few too many map-related news reports lately just telling the same craigslist story over and over again? *yawn*

    2. Re:Coming soon to a neighborhood near you... by patio11 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      With a database like the Chicago crime statistics, I don't think thats too farfetched. Something similar would really be useful for police departments -- color code the drug deals and murders by gang affiliation and you'll have a pretty good idea of where you need to keep an eye on fairly quickly. I'm guessing Chicago already does something like this internally (praying they do, at any rate), but it might help a smaller city which has trouble with gang territories not lining up with precinct boundaries.

    3. Re:Coming soon to a neighborhood near you... by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually you can do better than that with the chicagocrime.org site -- check out the division into types of crime. So if you want to know where to buy crack or where to get a handjob without leaving your car this map will help you out.

    4. Re:Coming soon to a neighborhood near you... by SmokeSerpent · · Score: 4, Funny

      It could also help the peeping toms coordinate with the publicly indecent to save everyone involved a lot of trouble.

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    5. Re:Coming soon to a neighborhood near you... by mikael · · Score: 1

      Or even view the turf boundaries between the street gangs in real time.

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  2. What I would personally like to see by mcc · · Score: 1

    is a map depicting the travel itinerary described by this book

    1. Re:What I would personally like to see by ihtagik · · Score: 1

      No map api required just a little google grease...

      http://www.frowl.org/gods/geography.html

  3. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Interesting

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  4. In more humble words... by Dan+East · · Score: 3, Funny

    People are making use of Google's new free API to show the location of stuff on a map.

    Dan East

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    1. Re:In more humble words... by Tackhead · · Score: 2, Funny
      > People are making use of Google's new free API to show the location of stuff on a map.

      I don't care how well-documented the API happens to be, or whether it's a hack, it's an app, or it's a map. This is not Fark, you are not Admiral Ackbar, and we are not going here!

    2. Re:In more humble words... by TheKidWho · · Score: 1
  5. Wow, that is cool by Blitzenn · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wow, I am impressed. The Craig's list and crime stats are really nicely done.

    Speaking of Craig's List, this could be a disease spreader too. Think of being able to find that horny date close to you from the online personals. Little tags all over saying "Yea! I'm horny! come on over!". lol.

    News headlines, "STD's spread like wildfire with Google's new map API".

    1. Re:Wow, that is cool by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      "Speaking of Craig's List, this could be a disease spreader too. Think of being able to find that horny date close to you from the online personals. Little tags all over saying "Yea! I'm horny! come on over!". lol."

      More likely you'll click on their personal only to find the address was entered randomly, its a stock porn/model photo, and it tells you to go check out her live webcam.

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  6. Soo.. by multipartmixed · · Score: 1

    ..anybody have an easy way to switch over customized .xml/.xsl files from the mygmaps "GMaps Standalone" project to the new API?

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  7. Never mind maps... by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Forget 2D maps. It's dead easy to play around with Google Earth - and you don't even need an API.

    Go 'head and try it. Save a location, or folder of locations, as a .kmz file. Then rename it to .zip and unzip it. You'll find a "doc.kml" file, xml-formatted, easy as pie to reverse-engineer and work with.

    1. Re:Never mind maps... by imsabbel · · Score: 2, Informative

      Already done...
      Sombody converted all georeferenced Wikipedia articles of the german version into such a file....
      Flying around the earth, and having a click on mountains, rivers or cities open the wikipedia page in the lower window really feels like playing real world civilisation :)

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    2. Re:Never mind maps... by PenguinOpus · · Score: 4, Informative

      Never mind reverse-engineering KMZ/KML, the spec and a tutorial have just been posted on http://code.google.com./

      Enjoy!

    3. Re:Never mind maps... by Festering+Leper · · Score: 1

      "Google Earth downloads temporarily delayed

      Thanks for your interest in Google Earth, but we're sorry we can't offer you a download right now. ..."

      that's all i've ever seen from google earth

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    4. Re:Never mind maps... by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      Can't get Google Earth, it seems to be unavailable for download.

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    5. Re:Never mind maps... by SmittyTheBold · · Score: 1

      Dude, just save the thing to a KML file outright.

      You're the second person I've had to correct about this issue. It's getting old. ;)

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    6. Re:Never mind maps... by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 1

      http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showthreaded.php?Cat=&B oard=SupportDiscussions&Number=33460&page=0&view=c ollapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

      "Due to huge demand (even compared to my own aggressive estimates), the Google Earth free download and activations have been temporarily disabled. If you are running Google Earth on your machine, it will continue to work, but you won't be able to install it on a different machine."

      Gee, that sucks.

    7. Re:Never mind maps... by RadarMan · · Score: 1

      Here's a good use of Google Earth to show real time weather maps with data pulled from Weather Underground's database of personal weather station. Very cool. Try out the "export current view" link to view in 3D

  8. It's been done. by susano_otter · · Score: 2, Funny

    I want to see. . . a national map of the worst, funniest tourist traps across the U.S.

    This will satisfy all your "worst, funniest tourist trap" needs.

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    1. Re:It's been done. by arbitraryaardvark · · Score: 1

      that has the data,at least for a start, but it's not mapped, unless i missed it. it would be easy for someone (not me) to do.

  9. Obligatory by daveschroeder · · Score: 3, Funny

    But I use Mapquest, you insensitive clod!

    Come on, a username of 'iclod', a post to slashdot about a game called 'iCLOD'...it had to be done!

  10. With all this innovation... by ivan256 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...why can't they figure out how to make it so you can get directions to a business by typing in the business name and having the mapping tool cross reference the yellow pages? Why should the user need to know the address?

    1. Re:With all this innovation... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I can get this with Yahoo Yellow Pages. I enter my ZIP for a location, and business name for destination. It brings up a list of businesses, and I can follow a link for maps, follow yet another link for directions.

    2. Re:With all this innovation... by batura · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, Local Search on maps.google.com does a really good job of doing just that. Unless I am misunderstanding your question.

    3. Re:With all this innovation... by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 3, Informative

      You are, and it doesn't.

      Local Search on google uses some crazy algorithms to find things by doing a GOOGLE SEARCH for what you entered, and then showing you addresses on a map found in the pages you referenced. (Basically.)

      Yahoo Yellow Pages is actually a database of business listings, and when you search that, 99% of the time you will get all the businesses.

      Example: I search for haircut near my area in Google Maps, and I get a few nearby haircut salons. I do the same thing in Yahoo Yellow Pages, and I get ALL the salons nearby, which gives me more choices, especially when there is a specific entry I am looking for. I know I will find it with YYP.

      I wish Google would just hurry up and buy some Yellow Pages company's data so they can compete against that. The "Local Search" idea was interesting, but is not comparable or adequate.

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    4. Re:With all this innovation... by one-of-many · · Score: 1

      Yahoo's already done it. Use it all the time.

    5. Re:With all this innovation... by rcs1000 · · Score: 1

      Interestingly, in the UK they have done just that. Local information is provided by "Yell", the British Yellow Pages company.

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  11. Everyone's gotta eat... by Hachey · · Score: 1

    I'd like to see a map that can reflect where the cheapest bite to eat is in the area...us college students have to live somehow...


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    1. Re:Everyone's gotta eat... by ivan256 · · Score: 1

      Check out the Uncyclopedia.org

      Hey, that looks cool in a totally random way... Kinda like how Everything used to be cool before a bunch of uptight assholes went and ruined it by trying to be all serious. Thanks!

    2. Re:Everyone's gotta eat... by ryanov · · Score: 1

      The problem there is that most dumpsters don't have street addresses. I don't think Google Maps allows for locations with no address.

    3. Re:Everyone's gotta eat... by mr100percent · · Score: 1
      Hey, everything2 is STILL cool! It's just raised it's standards a bit, but still is fresh.

    4. Re:Everyone's gotta eat... by ivan256 · · Score: 1

      Raised it's standards?

      They killed the funny. Most of what's left is a bunch of elitist snobs, and the rest are the people that can't admit it sucks now.

      If you're not writing serious nodes or silly wish-they-were-blogs posts they get nuked. The whole fun before was that you could put []tags around things that were amusing out of context and see what popped up. Now if you do that you get kicked out.

  12. Google Earth by jagorev · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Google Earth is even cooler than Google Maps. Why can't they release APIs for Google Earth? Imagine integrating Google Earth into a flight simulator. That's what I'd like to see.

    1. Re:Google Earth by chrisd · · Score: 3, Informative

      See Google Code for a link to the kml docs and tutorial.

      Have fun!

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  13. The worst, funniest tourist traps across the US by mattjb0010 · · Score: 1

    Been there, done that.

  14. Bike/Run maps! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I want to see a map which lets me specify and measure out a route, for planning runs, bike rides, and other such sports. The goal isn't always to get from A to B!

    Ideally, the interface should allow me to highlight a route over existing roads, with fudging for off-road stretches. Locations of water fountains, food stores or restaurants, and bathrooms would be a major plus too. Does such a thing exist yet?

    1. Re:Bike/Run maps! by jagorev · · Score: 1

      A slashdotter who runs and takes bike rides? Freak!

    2. Re:Bike/Run maps! by mattjb0010 · · Score: 1

      A slashdotter who runs and takes bike rides? Freak!

      Let he who is without freakiness make the first post...

    3. Re:Bike/Run maps! by angst_ridden_hipster · · Score: 1

      You're one of us now!

      Gabba gabba hey!

      You're one of us now.

      Gabba gabba hey!

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    4. Re:Bike/Run maps! by Oxen · · Score: 2, Interesting
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    5. Re:Bike/Run maps! by rsadelle · · Score: 1

      Awesome! Thank you!

  15. Re:Thank you!!! by mikael · · Score: 1

    The map is scrollable for a start. Zooming is still done in discrete steps, and apparently mainland Europe is still uncharted.

    Perhaps Google could extend their API to make use of other road maps such as "www.vicmichelin.com" - Or maybe that could become a third party API.

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  16. Map places by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    Believe it or not, there's a map store downtown in the city where I live, but I could remember where it was.

    So I thought I would look it up with Google Maps, and sure enough, I found it!

    Thus rendering my need for the store irrelevant.

  17. Campsites in Cornwall by amembleton · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This last weekend I was trying to use the Cornwall tourist board website to look for a campsite. The problem with it (apart from the search not working in Firefox), was that you couldn't see exactly where in Cornwall each campsite is.

    So, I have extracted the data of each site from the Cornwall tourist board website and have used it along with the Google maps API to create: Campsites in Cornwall

    By the way, Cornwall is in the south-west of England.

    1. Re:Campsites in Cornwall by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 1

      First time I've gotten this message:

      "A script is causing Mozilla to run slowly. If it continues, Mozilla may become unresponsive." Then it asked if I wanted to cancel the script.

      Have you noticed this?

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    2. Re:Campsites in Cornwall by jericho4.0 · · Score: 1

      Nice job. I get the same error message though, although it pops up soon after, and CPU load drops again.

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    3. Re:Campsites in Cornwall by EdibleEchidna · · Score: 1
      By the way, Cornwall is in the south-west of England.


      Actually, it's next to South-West England, not in it.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_status _of_Cornwall

      Good work though.
    4. Re:Campsites in Cornwall by jrumney · · Score: 1

      Beware when using these maps for navigation. Google's postcode locations in UK are about a block out in my experience. Best crosscheck with multimap.com or map24.com before using them.

    5. Re:Campsites in Cornwall by jrumney · · Score: 2, Informative

      A script is causing Mozilla to run slowly. If it continues, Mozilla may become unresponsive.
      Do you want to abort the script?
      [OK] [Cancel]

      Have these people heard of UI guidelines? Which button am I supposed to press if I want the script to keep running? Cancel?!!!!

    6. Re:Campsites in Cornwall by amembleton · · Score: 1
      Beware when using these maps for navigation. Google's postcode locations in UK are about a block out in my experience. Best crosscheck with multimap.com or map24.com before using them.

      Google Maps API doesn't allow postcodes to be entered for the positioning. Everything is done with latitude and longitude. I got around this by determining the postcode of each campsite and then parsing that through Multimap. So, in fact I am using Multimap postcodes. I've also checked for a few campsites the maps on their websites and found that my code had picked out the correct location.

    7. Re:Campsites in Cornwall by amembleton · · Score: 1

      Nope, I've not noticed this.

      The whole page is 64KB, plus whatever Google sends which is probably at least another 100KB. I might try cutting down what I send by experimenting with AJAX. Thats another rainy weekend sorted!

  18. wiki by location? by Slackrat · · Score: 1

    Wiki + Maps = Location-Based Wiki

    Somebody must be doing this already... links?

    1. Re:wiki by location? by jericho4.0 · · Score: 1

      1 set of GPS coords = one place. It kinda makes sense if you think about it.

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  19. map by SparafucileMan · · Score: 2, Funny

    i want a map of every gold mine in the world.

    it should also overlay with oil fields, poulation density, fresh water supply, and power lines.

    muwahahaa.

  20. Ding-Dong by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 3, Funny

    How about maps of the addresses of patent holders? Like cancer clusters...

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    1. Re:Ding-Dong by cbittle · · Score: 1

      How about maps of the addresses of patent holders? Like cancer clusters...

      You mean Bill's house? Honestly, who aims for 3000 patents in one year? ...

  21. Re:Land ownership / plot mapping by Komi · · Score: 1
    Here's a map website for the Phoenix area (must have Internet Explorer on Windows) that uses their own software. You can select different parcels of land and see who owns it and how much they paid. You can also turn aerial photography. Something like this would be awesome done using Google Maps.

    Komi

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  22. Pedro's by image77 · · Score: 1

    I want to see Los Angeles maps of the action in James Ellroy's novels, and a national map of the worst, funniest tourist traps across the U.S.

    It's not in LA, but Pedro's South of the Border (in South Carolina) would have to be on the list.

    1. Re:Pedro's by mbius · · Score: 1

      They do have billboards for it, though.

      EVERYBODY'S A WEINER ONLY 3,726 MILES TO PEDRO'S

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    2. Re:Pedro's by arodland · · Score: 1

      Not quite as cult-weird-popular, but there's a place in North Carolina called Dirty Dick's Crab Shack; they have billboards all along 95 that says "I Got My Crabs at Dirty Dick's". I hear they have T-shirts too.

  23. ...there bound....in a book... by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 1
    ...there bound....in a book...

    So you are saying that in some book is something called a "bound"? Or where you saying that the're bund in a book? I don't understand.

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  24. Re:Land ownership / plot mapping by joke-boy · · Score: 1
    This is probably very difficult to do. It's not a technical challenge, but rather a source data challenge. Parcel data is usually handled by local municipalities - cities, counties, whatever, and there aren't any nation-wide standards for that kind of data. So you'd have to integrate a lot of data in different formats from a lot of individual government entities, all of which have their own unique procedures for obtaining the data. If you want to do it for a specific area, like Santa Clara County, it's probably not tough. For something larger, like all of California, well, have fun...

    You specifically mentioned DNR. My understanding is that DNR shows state-owned property only, so that wouldn't help you with privately-owned stuff (and someone correct me if I'm wrong).

  25. MetroFreeFi having problems... by PornMaster · · Score: 1

    http://newyork.metrofreefi.com/city/New%20York/

    The Google Maps API key used on this web site was registered for a different web site. You can generate a new key for this web site at http://www.google.com/apis/maps/

    I guess that some people are still having problems with the way the access is provided. :/

  26. Re:Land ownership / plot mapping by chill · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Volusia County, Florida has a basic version of this and has for some time.

    http://webserver.vcgov.org/Address.html

    Starting from the address page, enter a valid address like "544 s floyd cir deltona". This will give you everything on the property, including a rough sketch of the floor plan. Scroll all the way down to "PALMS Mapping" and you can work thru an interactive map of the city getting data on various parcels.

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  27. Re:Games by tearmeapart · · Score: 1

    You should have not posted that iClod link. If you would have read their site agreement, you would have noticed the Do-Not-Slashdot ACT. Below is a quote for the punishment:
    "Those who did not act swiftly or simply ignored the effectiveness of The Do-Not-Slashdot ACT had suffered the consequences of burnt-down server rooms and employment termination, just to name a few."

    I should probably mention that the following sites are bad ideas because they make the ACT void (if anyone actually used them): Corel or Mirrordot.

  28. Google Earth-151,000,000 hits for Earth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "That's what I'd like to see."

    Funny how no one wants to see the bandwith bill, however.

  29. Re:Land ownership / plot mapping by arbitraryaardvark · · Score: 1

    I'm guessing some of the big title company chains are starting to do this sort of thing, for internal use, but will keep it as a trade secret in the near term.
    Let's focus a bit on the potential evil uses. Spam that knows where you live?

  30. WHat would be great... by JFMulder · · Score: 1

    ... is if someone stitched all the images together to make a bigger one. I've got a 21k image at work made by the NASA, but I'd like to get my hands on something bigger. That would be a great stress test on our app.

  31. lawsuit waiting to happen... by writermike · · Score: 2, Informative

    And it's a shame...

    I used to work on production for Where Magazine in New Orleans. They would publish a map entitled "Where To Go In New Orleans" and I always wondered why they never published a map that showed areas where crimed occurred. At the time, New Orleans was pretty high on the murder-per-capita rates. But there were places that a tourist SHOULD KNOW ABOUT if they wanted to remain with their belongings and alive.

    The magazine said they'd get sued out of existence.

    Admittedly, publishing this kind of information in a magazine does push it under the umbrella of "opinion" unlike the Chicago Crime Maps, but it's a very thin hair to split. Chicago Crime Maps is merely publishing already available public data, but Where Magazine would have done that, too. What's to become of the tourist site that links to the maps?

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  32. Henry Earl by DigitalCrackPipe · · Score: 2, Funny

    So now the firefox plugin tracking how many times Heny Earl has been arrested for public drunkenness can now be upgraded to a map showing all the locations? Sweet.

  33. It really is impressive by tzuriel · · Score: 1

    how quickly these APIs are being implemented in clever new ways.

  34. satellite-map mismatch of 0.1 to 2 kilometres by dankelley · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I've started using this, and there is a problem for close-up work. The satellite view is distorted by a kilometre or two in the rural region in which I am interested. It seems to be good to about 0.1 km in the city in which I live. I have not done enough testing to know what causes the problem, but it is not difficult to imagine that it's simply a lack of control points in rural areas.

    The upshot of this is that if you want to put location balloons on a satellite image, you may need to do some ad hoc adjustments to the latitude and longitude ... which I would guess you'll have to keep changing as google gradually improves the satellite presentation.

    I've started a thread on the topic on the google map api discussion group, and at least one other person has noticed the same problem.

    1. Re:satellite-map mismatch of 0.1 to 2 kilometres by Raindeer · · Score: 1

      I haven't been able to validate this myself, but it seems this is also the case with 0 degree meridian, which should run straight through the Royal observatory in Greenwich. It seems it doesn't and is off by as much as a 100 metres.

  35. So when are we going to be able to see ... by constantnormal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... Google maps of fictional places? I can see all kinds of tie-ins to (e)book publishing -- imagine if the Marauder's Map in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets could be accessed by the reader at any point in the story, of the potential of interactive maps of Narnia or (Alice in) Wonderland in drawing the reader into the story a bit more, blurring the boundaries between reading and gaming.

    Seems like all it would take is for Google to accept the publisher's business, and post the maps.

  36. Maps by and for the masses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The availability of high quality and freely available map data and maps over the internet along with open source software (and some creative minds) has finally been the catalyst to unleash a true revolution in the use of digital spatial data. As the recent O'Reilly book "Mapping Hacks" (http://mappinghacks.com/ documents and the Where 2.0 conference (http://conferences.oreillynet.com/where/) demonstrated, you don't need expensive GIS software licenses or exclusive geospatial technical training to make effective use of online mapping.

    Noticed how many academic or professional "geographers", "cartographers" or "certified spatial analysts" are involved in any of these projects? Nada. Oh, a few see the light but leave it to the true hackers to truly push the boundaries (no pun intended) of the art.

    As a recent ZDNET review of the Where 2.0 conference stated, "Hackers are teaching the industry what to do."

    1. Re:Maps by and for the masses by mapmaker · · Score: 1
      Noticed how many academic or professional "geographers", "cartographers" or "certified spatial analysts" are involved in any of these projects? Nada.

      I'll bet you there were a fair number of these professionals involved in the creation of the services themselves. It's just like any other field - it's the professionals that create the technologies that enable the amateurs to play with them.

      Oh, a few see the light but leave it to the true hackers to truly push the boundaries (no pun intended) of the art.

      I'm a geographer, a cartographer, and a GIS developer. I can tell you that none of the apps mentioned by you or anyone else here are new ideas, technologically speaking. They've all been done before, many times over. The difference is that they are now being done by hobbyists and are being opened to the public. This is fantastic, and I'm really excited about it. But it is in no way pushing the boundaries of the art.

    2. Re:Maps by and for the masses by MarkMac · · Score: 1

      "GIS: A Mature Industry Tackles the Disruptive Technology Question"
      http://www.directionsmag.com/editorials.php?articl e_id=904

      This recent article makes some good points, including: How come the traditional GIS vendors were not driving this latest wave of disruption? Certainly the ideas and even the technology has been around for many, many years - but true innovation isn't always about inventing something completely new from scratch, rather it is applying existing ideas creatively in new ways. That is known as pushing the boundaries. It appears that it is the map "hobbyists" and not the "professionals" currently leading the way. (Hmm, didn't "hobbyists" invent the personal computer ...)

  37. Custom maps for your site by no1here · · Score: 2, Informative

    I created a page that lets you customize a map for inclusion on your website. The site is at http://shiwej.com/sitemapper/. You enter in a few options, and get code that you can put right on your site. And it's easy to create the Google Maps API key that is required for the map to work on your site.

  38. Funny Tourist Traps??? by s-orbital · · Score: 1

    Some how two words come into mind: "Wall Drug"

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  39. Build it and they will come by shadowbearer · · Score: 1
    In other news, businesses in Las Vegas have built a "Find my Nookie!" application...

    ;-) SB

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  40. Just more code... by ThreeE · · Score: 1

    There's really nothing innovative here -- just more code... Nothing that couldn't be done before -- now we can just waste more time faster...

  41. Or make your own Maps with Open Source Software by Mik3D · · Score: 1

    Ka-Map is an interface api based on Mapserver which allows you to create and navigate tiled maps ala Google Maps. Check out a demo site here

    It is a fairly young project, just waiting for a few more talented programmers to help push it along. I would love to see a open source alternative to Google Maps and Yahoo Maps providing base maps to these services.

  42. Re:Thank you!!! by flibberdi · · Score: 1

    I have used viamichelin.com for years, it's great!

  43. Sex Offenders? by fkingarightdoggy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So here is a question.. The API TOS says "We also want to respect people's privacy, so the API should not be used to identify private information about private individuals." So if your state publishes sex offenders addresses online are you able to publish that information using google maps?

    1. Re:Sex Offenders? by dcraigw · · Score: 1

      If your state publishes sex offender addresses online, that sounds like public information, not private information.

  44. Funny you should mention that... by randomiam · · Score: 3, Insightful
    A couple of weeks ago, I was looking for overheads of an air separation plant (for my father, who wants to put one in his model rail road set). I figured this would be easy to do as Praxair has a major production facility in Niagara County, one county north of me. Much to my chagrin, the plant was imaged with the low res photos. Curiosity piqued, I looked at some other 'sensitive' sites in the area. Here's what I found:

    This is the overhead of the niagara falls hydropower resevoir. The power station is lo res, but the neighborhood isn't.

    This is the site of a Dupont factory, a Dunlop Tire factory and a General Motors plant. All low res.

    This view shows a CSX rail depot in the north east and the Buffalo River (which has a plant for making HCl among other things iirc) in the south west. Both blurred.

    Now, I have no problem with denying high resolution images of sensitive areas to the civilian population (especially since the areas I've shown you are all prominently featured in the bad dreams of local emergency services types). But if that's the criterion for deciding what's obscured and what isn't, the result is slapdash. This photo shows a cheese factory. Those white tanks are NH3 tanks for the refrigeration system. Since the winds here are usually from the south west or west, the cloud resulting from a leak in the ammonia system would blow right over one of the more densly populated neighborhoods in Buffalo. Clearly, this should have been obscured as well (Except you can see pretty much the whole thing from the street, which isn't true of the other examples).

    It would seem that someone already read your mind SparafucileMan.What I want to know is who; Google, the local government, the national government (DHS or whoever), the owners of stuff being obscured?

    Discuss.

    1. Re:Funny you should mention that... by bibi-pov · · Score: 1

      Maybe this not the right explanation. Photos of this resolution are taken from a plane, not a satellite. And there are sensitive area you can't fly over, maybe it's just they couldn't shoot it hi-res. You may notice the area isn't blurred (as in hi-res gone lo-res), it's just replaced with satellite data (which is lo-res).

    2. Re:Funny you should mention that... by randomiam · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I was thinking of something like that, only the airspace over Niagara Falls itself is highly restricted, yet the photos are clear as can be. Also, there are high res images of other places which for sure have overflight restrictions, like airports. This composite of BOS was for sure not taken from an airplane (you can zoom in on the airplanes on final).

      Maybe someone will know for sure out there, but aren't the keyhole satelites capable of resolving down to 1 meter? I thought the high resolution images were from satelites.

    3. Re:Funny you should mention that... by SparafucileMan · · Score: 1

      yeah, it's that way on google maps, too.

      but i think it is mostly a coincidence.

      there are plenty of places that have terrible resolution that don't seem to be correlated to anything important.

  45. Geo-Spatial Web - Right photo Say go there. by ViceOwl · · Score: 1
    At http://dreams2text.blogspot.com you might like to check out the following articles...
    • Making it easy for the Layman to use the Semacode based "Virtual GPS"
    • How hard is it for the "Common Man" to use the Poor Man's GPS mentioned earlier?
    • Using Landline Telephone Numbers for GeoLocation.
    • Bringing Global Co-Ordinates Indoors.
    • The GeoSpatial Web - RightClick a Photo GoThere!!!
    • Prevention of GeoSpatial SPAM - A Solution!!!
    • The Poor Man's GPS
  46. Google Maps is cool by multiplexo · · Score: 3, Interesting
    It's weird though what they will and won't let you view. You can't see the roof of the White House but you can look at the NSA activity out at Yakima Firing Center in Washington.

    I'd like to see the next dimension that Google Maps add be time. It would be cool if it were possible to have all of the satellite imagery from the last 40 years or so going right up to today with a fleet of googlesats providing near real-time imagery and then scroll through it all. Man, this makes me wish I were smart enough to work at Google.

    --
    cheap labor conservatives - they want to keep you hungry enough to be thankful for minimum wage.
    1. Re:Google Maps is cool by LS · · Score: 1

      Actually, you can't see the roof. Instead of pixelizing or blocking out the Whitehouse, instead they just filled in the roof with a solid color.

      LS

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      There is a fine line between being a cultivated citizen and being someone else's crop. - A. J. Patrick Liszkie
  47. Street directory overlays by Glenneaux · · Score: 1

    I've been messing around in Google Earth for a while now, mainly finding my mates houses/places of interest around the Melbourne (Australia) CBD. What I think would be handy would be a street directory overlay. At the moment i've been alt tabbing between google earth and whereis.com.au .. has anyone started on such a project (in the US i'm assuming) as this would be interesting to check out.

  48. Nothing to see here. Move along. by DJStealth · · Score: 1

    Umm.. I thought there was an article or story here.

    It just looks like an excuse to post about google with no new information, and links to sites we all have already seen.

    Did I miss something?

  49. Your very own Indiana Jones red line! Alive!!! by SuperSanta · · Score: 1

    Do you remember that first time you watched an Indiana Jones movie and thought how cool it'd be to have your very own 'little red line' cataloging your travels? Ever wonder 'just how close' or 'really far off' you were to your friends on the playa one night when you said to meet up with friends and it never worked out? Misguided in your travels to find 'something' that you thought you knew where was? Well thanks to a GPS unit, some conversion software and the google maps API I've finally started making my own Indiana Jones red-line (http://www.oastler.ca/maps/dynamic.html) The next step would be put another 'layer' on top to allow your friends to all upload their tracks of where they are and - for those privacy minded folks out there - have it broadcast the waypoints / track by wifi to the server and you can play Where's Waldo - errr Where's Jamie - whenever you want. The tie-in to infoWindows to pictures I take is already 1/2 way done too, just not sure how to get Picasa XML extract and this to tie together or if I even need Picasa to do that.

  50. Not innovotive by baadger · · Score: 1
    Not to piss all over the people who work hard on them but I wouldn't label most of the GMaps mash-ups/ derivatives i've seen 'innovative'.
    Sure they are neat, but hardly amazing.

    "Imaginative developers, like Alan Taylor (Transparency concept), are digging deep into experimentation to dream up new uses for the maps. It's great to see the innovation when hacks turn to apps."


    Specifically, the transparency concept isn't innovative or extraordinarily imaginitive. Websites like MultiMap have had transparency overlay availble on UK street maps for years now. As I'm sure many other map sites have. Infact you'd think Google Maps would have this feature has standard, and they probably will some time soon.

    As for Google themselves, the only thing setting them apart from the crowd here (This must be the innovotive bit) is their willingness to release a well documented and featured open API. I think the submitter missed the difference between "mass innovation" and "marketing for the masses" or some smart business modelling. Up until recently they had no way control (or nurture) the mashup frenzy... and now they do.

    Heres an interesting entry on the O'Reilly Radar Blog - How To Roll Out An Open API.

    Hopefully other services and companies will be more keen on releasing API's in the future.
  51. Does this mean... by Tim+Browse · · Score: 1
    ...we could automate the production of things like this ? :-)

    It could be like 'jive' for Google Maps.

  52. Re:Nothing to see here. Move along. by Mant · · Score: 1

    Yes, Google and Yahoo have opened up offical APIs, with terms of service people can use, rather than the existing hacks of their services.

  53. Re:The Real Question by ryanov · · Score: 1

    I personally would have mod'd that "Funny," but I guess no one asked me.

  54. Re:Land ownership / plot mapping by VolciMaster · · Score: 1

    What is a Do Not Resuscitate plot map?

  55. Google Earth Hack Needed by lperdue · · Score: 1

    I've been trying to use Google Earth to produce a decent "fly through" of the areas and settings in my next novel, Perfect Killer but the interface is a total kludge.

    I shelled out $600 for the Pro version of Google Earth and the MovieMaker functions ... but it's more of a navigation dog than the first DOS version of Flight Simulator.

    The hack that's really needed is a driver to interface something like the CH Products Flight Sim yoke to the directional and altitude controls in Google Earth so that smooth changes could be made.

    Given that my programming experience is mostly Fortran and Perl, writing drivers is out of the question.

    Is anyone working on a hack like this?

  56. Re:Land ownership / plot mapping by jfoust2 · · Score: 1

    Although Wisconsin's Open Records law is quite clear about the open nature of electronic records, the law also lets county offices recoup the cost of providing real estate information like this. It's called "cost recovery".
    Therefore you see county offices charging stiff amounts to title companies for real-time access to property records, for example. To do this, you'd need to pay the fees to get a copy of each county's databases, then find a way to integrate all that info. Maybe most of them use ArcInfo.
    I suspect you'll see the most populous counties (Dane, Milwaukee, Waukesha, etc.) move towards more open public access to their databases first, but there's always a balancing concern that the info will be harvested for junk mail purposes.
    And I thought the printed plat books were about $10-15.

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    Curator of the Jefferson Computer Museum http://www.threedee.com/jcm
  57. Re:Land ownership / plot mapping by jfoust2 · · Score: 1

    An on-point discussion of the Open Records law regarding land info records can be found at http://www.wlia.org/standards/PrivacyOpenRecordsHa ndbook.htm .

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    Curator of the Jefferson Computer Museum http://www.threedee.com/jcm
  58. Google Maps + Geocaching by cplee · · Score: 1

    I've come up with a method to display Geocaches with Google Maps using an AJAX model...check out how: http://www.cplee.org/archives/000092.html Casey

  59. Re:Nothing to see here. Move along. by DJStealth · · Score: 1

    But this was last week's news. There are no articles from this post.