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A Study On Time Wasted At Work

Animesh Pathak writes "C|Net News has an article about a survey of people's goofing off habits at work. From the article: 'It's interesting to note that the Internet was cited as the leading time-wasting activity. It goes to show how integrated it has become to the daily functions of our personal and professional lives,...Today, there are so many useful tools and Web sites on the Internet that have enabled people to become more efficient with accomplishing multiple tasks in a shorter amount of time.'"

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  1. Standby Periods by fembots · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article did mention that not all waste is pure waste, as they could spark new ideas, and it's also likely to introduce ice-breaking topics so that everybody can sit together and chat about something in common.

    Nowadays companies expect employees to be available from 7.30am to 6.30pm, but these employees aren't actually required all the time, the boss just wants you to be there so that when he needs you, he can find you.

    The article mentions insurance industry is the worst, but what do they expect insurance call centre staff to do when nobody calls in?

    Maybe start cold-calling: "Good morning Mr Anderson, this is Smith from Surely Insurance, we're wondering if you have a car accident today?"

    So I normally treat non-productive time as time-out or standby periods for employees, they're getting paid to provide continuous service availability throughout the day.

    1. Re:Standby Periods by centauri · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Good morning Mr Anderson, this is Smith from Surely Insurance, we're wondering if you're having a car accident today...."

      Imagine Hugo Weaving speaking this to you over the phone as you drive home from work and give yourself a nice shiver.

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    2. Re:Standby Periods by ShaniaTwain · · Score: 5, Funny

      I would formulate a clever and insightful reply to your post, but I should really get back to work.

    3. Re:Standby Periods by Nos. · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They even say that roughly 1/3 or respondants say they "waste" this time because they have don't have enough work.

      Near the bottom of the salary.com article is this little blurb:
      Populations surveyed included AOL users, Salary.com Salary Wizard users and corporate human resource professionals

      So, a good portion of the surveyed group are visitors to salary.com. I would guess that a majority of people visiting salary.com are at least somewhat unhappy with their job. I don't think I would consider they're numbers worth anything. Its like asking people coming out of a theatre if they're willing to pay current admission prices to see a movie.

    4. Re:Standby Periods by StalinsNotDead · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's 'their', not 'they're'. You ignorant bafoon[sic]!

      The proper spelling is buffoon.

      Have a nice day.

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    5. Re:Standby Periods by rwven · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Honestly, in todays way of thinking/working, sometimes the only thing i can do to keep from going nuts is to take some time and just do nothing with it. Other countries think the US is nuts for working as much as they do... Work + no vacation = burnout... I usually spend a good hour or so a day looking around /. and other tech news, reading reviews, etc... It's about all that keeps me sane sometimes...

    6. Re:Standby Periods by wolenczak · · Score: 2, Funny

      Could anyone post some links to effectively waste my time at work? I'm kind of getting bored of /., dilbert, thinkgeek, cnn, the onion, etc...

    7. Re:Standby Periods by newend · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd question how good of a sample salary.com has. I imagine anyone who's already surfing to a website to take a survey is likely to spend more time surfing anyway. There is no mention of the confidence interval or any other important statistical information.

    8. Re:Standby Periods by Fortran+IV · · Score: 3, Insightful
      It's 'their', not 'they're'. You ignorant bafoon!
      The proper spelling is buffoon. Have a nice day.
      I wonder if there's ever been a study done on how many "spelling nazis" have typos of their own in their spelling flames of other posters.

      And I wonder if there's ever been a study on how many people on Slashdot never get the joke.
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    9. Re:Standby Periods by drsquare · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm not exactly famed for my work-ethic, so here are a few of my favourite ways to waste time at work:

      1. Sleeping. Pretty obvious. Just go to the canteen, or some obscure place, and have a good kip. Works best when the machines are down on a night shift when no-one gives a shit. Make sure it's somewhere really obscure so you can't be accidently found. This only works if your job isn't one which is important.

      2. Sweeping. Just get a brush, and pretend to be sweeping up. You can stand about with it, and it looks like you're working. Occasionally, say every 5 minutes, sweep some stuff up. That's all you have to do, and you have an alibi when some supervisor asks what you're doing.

      3. Working. Work incredibly slowly, so by the time you're done, it's time to go home. It doesn't matter if you haven't really done anything, all that matters is that no-one can say you were skiving.

      4. Get an easy job. Some jobs involve just standing there. Say when you're on a machine, you just stand there until something goes wrong (which is rare). Or security, or something equally non-eventful.

      5. Time eating. Just think of some tasks, and then do them incredibly slowly. For example, think of something you need to do which is at the other end of the site. You can spend a few minutes 'preparing' to go, then you can slowly walk over, do what you have to do, then prepare to go back, then slowly walk back. If you're caught, you've got an alibi, you're in the middle of something. Also, you can go to the toilet, change your equipment, move some pallets around, do some paperwork, anything that doesn't really need doing, but eats up time.

      6. Go to the bog. Take a book, paper, whatever, sit on the john for a good half hour. No-one's going to disturb you.

      7. If you work in a place as filthy and run-down as I do, there's always something to clean up. So there's always an excuse to hang about sweeping up stuff, cleaning surfaces, hoovering up dust, anything really. You don't even have to be making any progress, as long as it looks like you're busy.

    10. Re:Standby Periods by cmburns69 · · Score: 2, Funny

      When I saw Lord of the Rings, all I could think about was "Good morning, Mr. Frodo..."

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    11. Re:Standby Periods by TopShelf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Back in the good old days of early Javascript online games (~1996 or 97), Uproar.com used to run an hourly trivia contest that paid off $5 per game. Sure, my work productivity plummeted, but I was clearing an extra $100-200 a month whiling away the day...

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    12. Re:Standby Periods by Anonymous+Monkey · · Score: 3, Informative

      Your post is insightfull, but for me not havving enough work happens every month. You see I work in accounting, and at month end and the start of the month we are slammed with work. On the other hand, from the 22nd to the 28th the office dead. We will get our back filing done, and prep work done for the next month but when that runs out it's time for slashdot!

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    13. Re:Standby Periods by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Nazi" should be in quotes, you immense dunderhead!

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    14. Re:Standby Periods by soliptic · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Yeah damn straight.

      My last job began being hired as a temp when a previous guy left. They had 6 months funding for the temping post, so they said: in these 6 months, please streamline and automate all tasks so that by the time you leave, we don't need to hire a replacement.

      So that's what I did.

      And at the end of the six months, they said: hey, you're fitting in pretty well, do you want a permanent full-time position on 150% of the pay you had as a temp?

      I said, "sure". Obviously, by that point, I had reduced the workload of the post to about 2 hours per week, like they asked me to in the first place, but if they're too stupid to notice, that's really not my problem. So I took the job. At first I was keen, and tried to make up the "missing" workload by coming up with new ideas - but after several times where these ideas just got taken into endless meetings with no outcome whatsoever, I pretty soon had that enthusiasm ground out of me.

      Instead, I just pocketed the money, and spent 80% of the last year on the internet. Of course, I got all my work done, so my boss thought I was a great employee. Now I've left and they're looking for a replacement.

      The real irony? This place is a business school, which boasts about having experts in "Strategic Human Resource Development". But they're still too f*cking dense to notice when they hire people for jobs they explicitly told people to render unnecessary.

      Frankly, I have no idea why posts like this are moderated funny, and this is moderated 3, interesting. Both should be 5, insightful imho.

      Work is, for the vast majority of the population, a stupid, pointless clock-watching waste of their life.

  2. Ha! by building_970 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I find this story deeply ironic. Only two hours until I can leave this place...

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    1. Re:Ha! by MarkGriz · · Score: 5, Funny

      "This is your boss. This is even more ironic than you thought, because, all us at management are watching this story."

      Management discussing other people wasting time.

      Now that's REAL irony.

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    2. Re:Ha! by jez9999 · · Score: 3, Funny

      You missed out #3.

      3. Like goldy and bronzey, only made of iron.

  3. You'll never catch me... by Crudely_Indecent · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wasting time on the Internet at work...what...like reading Slashdot? The powers that be will never catch me doing such a thing...

    Oh shit, here comes the boss....

    +++ATH
    NO CARRIER

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  4. I don't need a study to prove this... by 808paulson · · Score: 5, Funny

    All I need to do is just walk around the office.

    1. Re:I don't need a study to prove this... by Valiss · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, and d00d, stop coming by my cube every 5 minutes. Some of us are trying to read Slas^H^H^H do serious work and your making me nervous whenever you walk by!

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  5. Time waster by Reducer2001 · · Score: 4, Funny

    And here I am, still at work, posting on Slashdot....

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  6. What a nice report by Ronald+Dumsfeld · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just who is the target audience for this? Whip-wielding managers who flay anyone not fast enough on Alt-Tab?

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    1. Re:What a nice report by Radres · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh, yeah, baby! Look at that body!

      (.)(.)
      ).(
      ( | )

      Seriously dude, even command-line apps will spawn windows or change the video mode in order to display graphics.

    2. Re:What a nice report by Ronald+Dumsfeld · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Seriously, I expected a Funny mod for my comment. It wasn't meant seriously, but the moderation shows that there are a lot of people spending time at work that they resent - and goofing off as a form of protest.

      Sure, it's never been that mythical 1950's world where the white-collar workers left for work at 8:30am and got home before 6:00pm, but we were all brought up believing that. All these companies spent lots of money advertising that living in their future would be hassle free and labour limited... Is it any surprise people don't expect to have to work hard?

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  7. Survey idea by einhverfr · · Score: 3, Funny

    How much time do you waste at work reading Slashdot?

    * 1hr/week
    * 1hr/day
    * 2hrs/day
    * 3hrs/day
    * I don't read slashdot you insensitive clod (then what are you doing selecting this one)
    * CowboyNeal

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    1. Re:Survey idea by einhverfr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      At what point will the economic damage caused by Slashdot exceed Google's market capitalization?

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  8. Initech by iamzack · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work.

    1. Re:Initech by Valiss · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes, I get the reference. BUT....

      The beauty of that is if you do 30 minutes of work a week, you can tell your boss that you've DOUBLED the productivity!

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    2. Re:Initech by cashman73 · · Score: 3, Funny
      Bob: Looks like you've been missing a lot of work lately.

      Peter Gibbons: Well, I wouldn't exactly say I've been *missing* it, Bob.

  9. I wanted to participate in that by chowdmouse · · Score: 2, Funny

    but I was too busy playing Internet Scrabble.

  10. What a waste of study by soma_0806 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Come on, in this day and age a "scientific" study cannot possibly think it's going to say anything meaningful about wasting time at work if it considers "the internet" as one thing. Clearly, it needs to be subcategorized into meaningful elements. Maybe something like webmailers, on-line magazines, interactive discussion groups, etc. That way the researchers could seperate the waste from the worthy.

    I mean, to study people wasting time on the internet is tantamount to studying people wasting time on computers.

    AC
  11. Butt location. by Jaywalk · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The internet also allows multitasking "wasted" and "productive" time because it's the only activity that keeps your butt firmly lodged in it's seat. I can check news or stock reports while waiting for that email to come back or for a compile to complete. If I actually got up and did something else, I wouldn't know when those things actually finished.

    Would it save my employer anything for me to be staring at the blank screen instead?

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    1. Re:Butt location. by gmletzkojr · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Sadly, some employers do prefer that you stare at a blank screen. The company I work for (when I was in the home office) would not allow people to read a magazine or a book when compiling - even if it is a programming magazine/book.

      "Dr. Dobbs? I don't think so - you're not in the medical profession anyway!"

      BTW, that company is not the same as the one listed in my URL.

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    2. Re:Butt location. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I actually do less multitasking now than I used to. My company (nameless - like me) installed this wonderful software that bills my time to our customers, but can only track one thing at a time -- so if I work on more than one thing at a time some of my time is going unbilled. So its actually more profitable for my company if I do stare at the blank screen. Whee.

  12. I'm sick and need help by lheal · · Score: 2, Funny

    with my slashdot addiction.

    Please, someone make me stop. It's taking up all my time. I've started writing songs about it, so when I lose my job and am out on the street I'll have something to sing while I panhandle.

    This is a lot harder to kick than nicotene, crack, heroin, alcohol, meth, overeating, bulemia, and necrophilia were.

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  13. Without the internet and sites like /. by phorm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd possibly do more in a given day, but I'd also be much less informed. Quite a few purchase decisions, new technology concepts, and water-cooler-conferences are based around news/ideas I pick up on the net...

    And to go a bit further, without forums, reference sites, online howto's, and last-but-not-least the almighty google I'd would be nearly as efficient as I am at work... having a server bork with mysterious driver issues is quite often solved with part inuition/experience and part googling the error messages...

  14. i have my routine set for when i come to work... by tont0r · · Score: 4, Funny

    sit down and sign in ASAP read email
    read slashdot
    read news
    rews world of warcraft forums
    talk to co workers
    check slashdot for new articles
    attempt to hope i can come up with a witty response to an article...
    then.. do work?
    ps
    someone came up to me while i was typing this (im at work now) and read it. wonder what they thought of it. hehe.

  15. Increased Leisure Time by Ronald+Dumsfeld · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I remember as a child being promised in TV programs about the future a shorter working week, increased leisure time, and robots and computers doing more of the work.

    Instead I'm expected to be available 12 hours out of 24 instead of 8. So, when the machine is doing the job for me, or I need to take a break from a problem and come back fresh, why the hell shouldn't I goof off on the Internet. My parents' generation did it with newspapers - even if they had to lock themselves in the toilet to do so.

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  16. Um, am I the only one... by ISaidItOmega · · Score: 5, Funny
    ... that feels like this study is stupid? From TFA:

    Through a Web survey involving more than 10,000 employees, the report found that personal Internet surfing ranked as the top method of cooling one's heels at work.

    Gee, most people on a web survey spend their personal time on the Internet. Thats like going to to a Red Sox game and surveying people on what their favorite sport is! I'll post again in a few, but for right now, I'm going to go to a strip club and survey people on womens' rights.

  17. Welcome to Firefox/Opera tabs by grungebox · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just open up about 10 important sites on different tabs (in my case, PDF's of different Phys Rev or Nano Letters papers), open whatever you're surfing on the 11th tab, say arstechnica^H^H^Hslashdot. Boss comes by, just flick your mouse to the tab bar and quickly scroll the mouse wheel some. You have a 10/11 chance of landing on a work-related site. It's like playing Russian Roulette, sort of, except in the US. OTOH, in Soviet Russia, Russian Roulette plays...never mind.

  18. the internet and solitaire. by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Some years back in my small business I put a PC on the desk of my receptionist, around 1996 I think.
    She was *supposed* to use it to do my accounting..
    I didn't put it on the Internet, though she begged for it, because I wasn't about to add another phoneline for something I didn't consider important.

    Rather than doing my accounting, she spent 98% of her time playing solitaire.. Nothing pissed me off worse than to walk in and see her clicking away at that frigging retarded game while on the clock.
    I was paying her to play games and have a good time.
    So I went in after closing and deleted the damn games.
    She whined and cried about it, I told her the computer crashed and they were "eaten up"..
    She managed to click around and find some other BS game to play, which I also deleted.
    Again, more whining.
    I then told her she was paid to work, not play games.
    She said she could do her job in 45 minutes and that the rest of the day there was nothing else to do.
    I would have fired her if I hadn't needed her to answer the phones and dispatch jobs. That and she was my cousins wife.. (don't hire relatives.....)
    She told me if I didn't put the games back on she would quit.

    Finally, cell phone service came to our area, (yes, we were very backwards here) and I fired her, took the computer home, cut 4 of my land lines and forwarded them all to my cell phone.

    I know this won't work for most people, it's just my experience with employees wasting MY time and MY money...

    1. Re:the internet and solitaire. by _RidG_ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's absolutely ridiculous, provided that it was indeed the case that her work only took up 45 minutes of the day. Could you reasonably expect a sane person to sit at his / her desk five days a week, 8 hours every day, and do absolutely nothing for 7 hours and 15 minutes at a time?

      I don't quite understand this logic. You are paying her to do her job, i.e. answer phones and do accounting. As long as that condition is satisfied, let her be. Your employees are people too, though by the hostile tone displayed throughout your post, it seems that there is certainly some bad blood there.

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    2. Re:the internet and solitaire. by HeinJan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      She said she could do her job in 45 minutes and that the rest of the day there was nothing else to do.

      Finally, cell phone service came to our area, (yes, we were very backwards here) and I fired her, took the computer home, cut 4 of my land lines and forwarded them all to my cell phone.

      So basically the job could be done in 45 minutes... Why did you ever hire someone you didn't need?

    3. Re:the internet and solitaire. by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If the real reason you kept her around all day (as opposed to having her come in, do the work, and clock out) is so she could answer phones, why's it her fault that she didn't have other tasks to do after the 45 minutes of accounting work?

      The way you make it sound is that she literally had no other tasks to perform (if this isn't hte case *please* correct me as it changes your story completely) --so what would you have had her do? start shampooing the carpet or something like that?

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    4. Re:the internet and solitaire. by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 2, Informative

      She CLAIMED the accounting could be done in 45 minutes. I did not believe that.
      As for answering phones, there was an average of 20 phone calls and hour and those involved maybe 4 dispatches per day to work crews.

      SOMEONE had to be there to answer the phones, people hang up on answering machines, fact.
      And hang ups = lost business.

      The real pisser was that she was more interested in playing the games than answering the phones, dispatching or doing the accounting.
      When I walked in, she was hypnotized by the stupid computer. When I would talk to her, she would just keep playing and sort of throw answers back to me, after long periods of silence. It was like talking to an autistic person.

      I litterally had to tell her to turn the screen off while talking to me. She was obsessed with the computer games to the point that she was pretty much non-functional in her office duties.

      Cell phone service here was very spotty then, towers were few and far between and service was very expensive. Not at all worth the expense. They finally began to install more towers and brought in competitors, service improved and prices went down.
      I finally got cell service when the expense of the secretary outweighed the expense of shutting all but one phone line down and forwarding all numbers to my cell phone so I could be in the field and run the office on the road.

      You people have no idea what a screwed up deal it was, there is no way that anyone can understand unless they were there to live it. Family businesses are always a pain in the ass. DO NOT HIRE FAMILY MEMBERS!!
      Was it a perfect scenario? Hell no. Don't sit there and nit-pick me to death, it was how it was. I learned some hard lessons in those early days of my personal small business. You live, learn and move forward.

  19. Be careful how... by ArielMT · · Score: 3, Funny

    You never know who else is wasting time at work: http://bash.org/?258908

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  20. My employer encourages to use Internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My employer encourages us to use the Internet. I can even read Slashdot freely, because it means that I stay up to date of what's going on in IT business. My boss says it's important part of my job. I'm a Unix system administrator.

  21. Its not the time invested that counts. by Shivetya · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It is what you do with the time you dedicate to your job. My employer whats certain things done. I have timelines. As long as I meet or exceed those timelines they are more than happy.

    Yes it has been commented that I surf a lot. However to have your VP rebut that comment with praise for the quality and consistency of your work does say that some people do get it.

    Hell there are people not making calls or surfing that waste more of a companies time just by being there. I cannot tally the number of hours spent doing something someone else supposedly did. I cannot tally the hours spent on some high level persons personal directive that only was tossed at a later date.

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  22. Obligatory Bash.org Quote by Aeron65432 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Ben174 : If they only realized 90% of the overtime they pay me is only cause i like staying here playing with Kazaa when the bandwidth picks up after hours.
    ChrisLMB : If any of my employees did that they'd be fired instantly.
    Ben174 : Where u work?
    ChrisLMB : I'm the CTO at LowerMyBills.com
    *** Ben174 (BenWright@TeraPro33-41.LowerMyBills.com) Quit (Leaving)

    http://www.bash.org/?258908/

  23. Is It Really Wasted Time? by airship · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I just had my annual review, and one of the things my boss ranked me high on was 'being informed' and 'proactively seeking solutions'. He was most impressed with the fact that I found, downloaded, and provided lots of Oracle technical information just an hour after we had decided to evaluate Oracle as a vendor. I also got high points for 'taking the lead' in learning about business rules and use cases and presenting that information to our team. Guess where I got all my information? Since the development project we worked on all year went belly up a couple of months ago, frankly cruising the 'net was the only thing I did all year that got me points in my evaluation. So which time was actually wasted? the hundreds of hours I spent on a project that was scrapped, or the time I spent on the 'net that got me bonus points with the boss?
    Go figure.

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    1. Re:Is It Really Wasted Time? by dschl · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Another example: lets say you have server trouble. The boss doesn't know, and you want to solve it before he notices...SNIP...

      How should we handle managers like that?

      Communication? I hear that talking to managers and keeping them updated works wonders.
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  24. "The Internet" by erroneus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I am still somewhat amazed that people fail to see "The Internet" for what it is -- a communications medium.

    I use Television, Telephone, Radio, Cell phone, FAX, Newspapers and even the U.S. Postal service. None of these things are thought to be remarkable, ground-breaking or otherwise remarkable media. They aren't new but they are certainly very well integrated into the way we do business.

    People are, instead, distracted by the newness and novelty of the applications that use the internet medium. We all know how people think "the web" == "the internet" and how wrong that is. So here again, we're talking about how the internet is changing the way we do business. It is and it isn't. We have a new medium with which we exchange information. In some ways it's superior to existing media and in other ways it's not. As the dust settles, people will use the medium that works best for their use. The Net obsoletes nothing specifically.

  25. 100% of my time is wasted at work. by Radical+Rad · · Score: 4, Funny

    I could be playing golf and working on my novel!

  26. Longer Days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    TFA says that work days are getting longer because people are wasting more time. That's a load of crap. I "waste" time because of the long hours. I'm not mentally capable of coding 100% 24/7. The reality is that there are a limited # of hours in the day that I can effectively develope in. If you tell me I have to be here, I'll just sit and read slashdot. If I could leave the office without management frowning on a less than 40 hour week then I could just do an 8-4 every day and I would not *have* to slack off.

  27. Re:This explains it all by zookie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    OK, I know it's bad form to respond to my own post, but reading more about this "survey" really raises my ire about the willingness of the media to report junk surveys. This survey was all over the local news yesterday, mostly because my state (Missouri) was the chief time waster. Even the governor had to respond to the media saying that we Missourians aren't a bunch of lazy workers.

    But then if you look at the "methodology" of this survey (see bottom), you'll see there wasn't a shred of science in this. Not only was the audience surveyed limited to AOL users, Survey.com users, and HR professionals, but the "data was analyzed by Salary.com's team of Certified Compensation Professionals." What the hell is a "Certified Compensation Professional" and what do they know about statistics and surveys?

    The media needs to be a little more responsible in writing news stories based on something as weak as an online survey that had no scientific sampling or margin of error associated with it. If anything this proves that reporters are the lazy workers here.

  28. Added benefit: Superpower Hearing by dr7greenthumb · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can identify my boss's footsteps in a high traffic area at least 20 yards away to trigger an Alt-Tab.

  29. Wasted Time and The 40 Hour Week by Chagatai · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Keep in mind that studies over the past hundred years have shown that the 40-hour workweek is optimal for productivity. When workers are now putting in an average of 50 hours per week, with even lower productivity because of those excess hours, I would argue that the "wasted" time during the week is actually increasing productivity, if anything. And like other posters have said, this "wasted" time is often intermingled with productive work. For instance, I am in a class after having finished a lab right now.

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    --Chag
    1. Re:Wasted Time and The 40 Hour Week by flithm · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I personally have never seen a study been done that suggested a 40 hour work week is optimal for productivity. I would like to see some sources please.

      Even if a study were to exist, you have to take into context the nature of the study. For example, to which end is the productivity rated? Is this the productivity of individual workers on a scale of work done per time unit, or is it some ratio esitimator of productivity per dollar spent, because they're quite different.

      Having said that, I do agree with you. Making workers work more hours can definitely lower overall productivity.

      France has enacted a law dicatating that 35 hours is the maximum time one should spend working in a week.

      While they intended the law to promote hiring new employees, they found that companies resisted and instead demanded higher time unit production quotas. Indeed an interesting result.

      Note that our average work week has been shortening since the 13th century.

      This is definitely a good thing, although I still don't think it's enough. USA and Canada are still pretty high on the list of time spent at work.

      Paul Lafargue's Right to be Lazy (1883) suggests an optimal workday of 2 to 3 hours per day.

      Nearly all pre-modernized tribes peoples live with a considerably shorter work week. The Kalahari Bushmen, for example, work on average 12-20 hours per week.

      Now the Bushment also don't have TV, computers, cars, planes, etc. But then again they don't have Guns, or Heroine either. And I suspect if a study were done on their happiness or contentment in life, it would probably rate _much_ higher than the average North American.

      I'm not saying we should trade it all in for the life of a Bushman, but there has to be a balance. We've got the highest rates of mental disease in the world, we lock up more of our people and spend more money on incarceration per person than a lot of the countries in the world combined.

      If we were really getting paid for the service of being available at work, even while we're not being productive, then we wouldn't feel guilty when we get caught reading slashdot. We wouldn't immediately switch away from minesweeper when we see the boss walking down the hall.

      The workplace makes us feel like we should be productive even though there are many times when productivity is simply not going to happen.

      We're tied to this 40 hour work week (which is often much higher) that forces us into a schedule that minimizes our ability to have any serious daily enjoyment beyond the workplace.

      Many of us commute. After an 8 hour day and a commute, doing the daily chores, there's little time to reflect, ponder, play a game of whatever with friends.

      We've been pushed into complacency and we all sit back and take it. We're a society that by enlarge lives for the weekend. I really don't consider this an optimal solution by any stretch.

    2. Re:Wasted Time and The 40 Hour Week by COredneck · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Bingo ! You got to the point. Where I work at, we have flex time. I try to do my scehdule to where I work a 12 hour day on Monday, a 10 hour day on Tue, 8 on Wed, 6 on Thu and 4 on Friday. With flex time, I get in pretty early so I can leave mid-afternoon and do some things such as bike ride after work. A lot of times, it doesn't work out since our East Coast counterparts who live to work always have these last minute demands on Thu or Fri and expect us in Colorado to drop everything for their whims.

      I work to live, not live to work ! Unfortunately, corporate America looks down on enjoying life which is supposedly reserved for the executives who are miserable anyway.

      We're tied to this 40 hour work week (which is often much higher) that forces us into a schedule that minimizes our ability to have any serious daily enjoyment beyond the workplace.

      Many of us commute. After an 8 hour day and a commute, doing the daily chores, there's little time to reflect, ponder, play a game of whatever with friends.

      We've been pushed into complacency and we all sit back and take it. We're a society that by enlarge lives for the weekend. I really don't consider this an optimal solution by any stretch.

  30. Smoke breaks? by the-matt-mobile · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm amazed that there's no mention of smoking in the article at all. I wonder if it was even considered. Our workplace, like many others recently, has gone smoke free which means all the smokers are likely to disappear for 1/2 hour or more 3-4 times a day to get off the grounds to have a smoke. Some even get around the "no smoking on any company property" rule by standing in the street. It may not be the number one time waster, but it'd got to be up there.

  31. Productivity by Aphoric · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am reading this at work, I have not read the article, do they mention /. specifically?

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  32. Get a chess clock... by Bazman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A friend of mine had a chess clock and labelled the two clocks 'work' and 'doss' (slang for not work). Whenever he was busy proving theorems, running statistical models, the 'work' clock was running. If you went into his office and asked him about the soccer game last night, he would hit the clock and 'doss' would start ticking.

    His days worked out with a 50:50 work-doss ratio!

    Baz

  33. This isn't fair. by Eskimore_ · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I spend a lot of my day killing time. And I think I just got "that look" from the owner of the company who noticed I was surfing the web just now.

    But I'm a support technician. If I'm busy it means stuff is broken and other people can't do their job. And if that's more than 1 person it's probably costing the company more than it costs them to have me sitting around doing nothing. I'm like insurance: got to have it, but using it means you have bigger problems than paying the premiums.

    But I still feel like a slacker for sitting around surfing the net.

    It's not fair.

    /whining

  34. Effective time-wasting links by Fortran+IV · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Jigsaw puzzles
    More puzzles
    Computer Stupidities (warning: may provoke laughbursts)
    Math articles
    Quicktime panoramas
    The world's most famous debunker

    Variously educational, baffling, entertaining, or just pretty.

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    I figure by 2030 or so my 6-digit UID will be something to brag about.
    1. Re:Effective time-wasting links by flosofl · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, there went any chance of me finishing this thread...

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  35. Re:i have my routine set for when i come to work.. by cashman73 · · Score: 3, Funny
    Bob: You see, what we're trying to do is get a feeling for how people spend their time at work so if you would, would you walk us through a typical day, for you?

    Peter: Yeah.

    Bob: Great.

    Peter: Well, I generally come in at least fifteen minutes late, ah, I use the side door - that way Lumbergh can't see me, heh - after that I sorta space out for an hour.

    Bob: Da-uh? Space out?

    Peter: Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work.

  36. how about another study? by roman_mir · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A study on life wasted at work. Now that is some seriously scary shit, man, and I am not joking here.

  37. Re:Slashdot is NOT a waste of time. by uhlume · · Score: 2, Funny

    Slashdot, beyond the way the trolls word things, is a great place to find best-practices for the IT world.

    Thank you, that's the funniest thing I've read all day.

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  38. Whaaa? A Study on Time Wasted At Work? by PurplePhase · · Score: 2, Informative

    The SlashTitle made me think of:

    1. Extended meetings where people aimlessly mull and nothing is produced
    2. Following ingrained procedures which triple the time to do simple activities
    3. Reinstalling failing software and OSes ...

    But then it's about what people do with their spare time?? I want solutions to the above!!!

    8-PP

  39. How about not being able to hear yourself think... by jonadab · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In an office filled with coworkers incessantly chitter-chattering among themselves about nothing of any consequence, it's sometimes a wonder I get anything done at all. I estimate about a third of my "work" time is spent losing my train of thought due to the incessant meaningless chatter and then attempting to regain it.

    Losing my train of thought due to the ringing phone and then attempting to regain it afterwards also accounts for a significant portion of my time, but there's nothing my employer could do about that; we have to answer the phone, of course.

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    Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.