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Hot Coffee Content Within GTA Confirmed
Gamespot has confirmed, via a long and involved process, that the PS2 version of GTA: San Andreas contains the 'Hot Coffee' content. This essentially means that Rockstar was untruthful when it previously stated the content was added by a modder, but "Given that the minigame is about as raunchy as an episode of Sex and the City, cannot be accessed without entering a long string of cheat codes, and takes several hours of effort to access, charges that San Andreas is 'pornographic' may seem extreme to some."
cannot be accessed without entering a long string of cheat codes, and takes several hours of effort to access
That's what I was afraid of. Does any one have a torrent for the video?
Why is this such a big deal with (insert FOTM political retard here) and not with everyone else who has played the game?
Virtually murder scores of people, have gang wars, steal a car, blow up a military base, do drugs, but the second sex comes in to the picture - it's horrible and it kills little baby angels!
This drama has gone a little bit too far, and I really hope the only thing it manages to do is bolster sales of GTA:SA.
The question here is not the (stupid and harmless) "sex" content that the game might have, the question is that Rockstar lied, plain and simple.
It's very bad that Rockstar didn't had the balls to just say that the content was there, they tryed to duck out and now they are in a worst situation...
Way to go, Rockstar... we want the games industry to be seen as mature and respectfull and you pull an 15-year-old stunt on us all. Shame on you...
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After all this great press coverage, Rockstar should box up the Hot Coffee mod, slap an AO rating on it, and put it on store shelves. Maybe even make the minigame a little more playable. That'll show them "think of the children" wankers how it is. Spread the message: We don't expect your kids to play it, we don't want your kids to play it, the game is for adults.
How we know is more important than what we know.
"This essentially means that Rockstar was untruthful when it previously stated the content was added by a modder"
If you carefully re-read the statement by Rockstar again you will see it is very cleverly worded to point the blame at the people who released the mod while avoiding actually admitting the content was theirs. They were not untruthful, they were just assisted by some very expensive lawyers in preparing a statement that makes it look like it's not their fault without outright lying. Closer inspection shows they do not deny it.
I can't understand why they tried taking that tack in the first place though. In my post here I did a simple binary comparison of the mod's files to the originals and found only a few bytes difference. It wouldn't take long for anyone to work out that the content is theirs.
A far better route to have taken IMHO is to just admit that it was a feature they removed and that they apologise for any upset caused as they did not think anyone would find it and unlock it.
At the end of the day when the lawsuits start coming in, I think the crux of Rockstar's argument has to be that to access the sex game you have to download the mod which alters the game's files. This was never intended by Rockstar and therefore the responsibility lies with the person who applied the mod to exercise judgement. And if they are not mature enough to do this, their parents should be monitoring their computing activites anyway.
I love the fact you got modded insightful ;)
Lied in court while under oath
Ok, moron, since this is such a big deal to you, maybe it would help if you actually knew what happened?
At one point, while under oath, Clinton was asked, basically, "have you had sexual relations with Lewinsky?" To this he responded, "please define sexual relations?" The prosecution, already knowing FULL WELL about the BJ, specifically left oral sex off of the list when defining 'sexual relations.' Clinton took the bait and said, TRUTHFULLY, AS DEFINED BY THE PROSECUTION, "No, I did not have sexual relations with that woman."
Later on, it was proven that Clinton did, indeed receive a BJ from Lewinsky. BUT HE NEVER CLAIMED THAT HE DIDN'T, AS DEFINED BY THE PROSECUTION.
Fortunately, most morons don't look into the whole background of the case, and don't understand exactly how the whole thing happened. "omg he had sexxorz in teh oval office and he said he didnt!" So the prosecution got exactly what they wanted: it appeared that they had caught Clinton lying. After millions of dollars worth of investigation, being unable to turn up anything useful against him, ALL THEY COULD DO WAS TRICK HIM INTO APPEARING TO LIE UNDER OATH.
Here's the real story: Clinton DID NOT LIE. PERIOD. Starr just changed definitions around on him to make it appear that he did.
Your failure to understand this is very dangerous. No citizen should be so easily manipulated by lawyer-types into believing what the lawyer wants them to believe.
I apologize for the caps. I get sick of straightening people out on this -- not that most of them listen, because they prefer to believe that he lied anyway.
--Jeremy
Jesus was a liberal
Bill Clinton said: "I tried to walk a fine line between acting lawfully and testifying falsely, but I now recognize that I did not fully accomplish this goal and am certain my responses to questions about Ms. Lewinsky were false,"
But the REALLY sad thing about this is your defense of it, and your rabid attack on others. Partisian politics is killing this country. Clinton lied. He, in his own testimony admits he was trying to circumvent the truth without technically breaking the law, because that would have been *OK*. To me trying to circumvent the truth is just as bad.
I also believe that there was disinformation on Iraq. I believe Karl Rove should be fired and then prosecuted. I believe in punishing the guilty whether they share my political ideology or not. What bothers me the most about American politics today is the republicans and democrats who blindly follow their leaders and then further the lies of their party line by repeating them (as you have done).
So, I would ask you (and everyone) to turn down the rhetoric (...Your failure to understand this is very dangerous. No citizen should be so easily manipulated...) and instead encourage everyone to seek the truth. Every individual should be allowed to interpret the truth as they see fit -- but we should all be zealots for making sure that the truth is actually known.
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