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V For Vendetta Trailer
An anonymous reader writes "The V For Vendetta trailer has been posted on the film's official site. The film is written by Matrix creators Andy and Larry Wachowski and stars Hugo Weaving and fan favorite Star Wars star Natalie Portman."
They just had to add bullettime (er, sword time?) for nastalgia.
"The film is written by Matrix creators Andy and Larry Wachowski and stars Hugo Weaving and fan favorite Star Wars star Natalie Portman."
Wow, if they had just used the word prequel, my lack of interest would be complete.
"Derp de derp."
Anyoneelse heard the story about a woman suing the Wachowski brothers saying they ripped of her story for the first Matrix movie?
From TFWS...
Synopsis: Set against the futuristic landscape of totalitarian Britain, V For Vendetta tells the story of a mild-mannered young woman named Evey (Natalie Portman) who is rescued from a life-and-death situation by a masked vigilante known only as "V." Incomparably charismatic and ferociously skilled in the art of combat and deception, V ignites a revolution when he detonates two London landmarks and takes over the government-controlled airwaves, urging his fellow citizens to rise up against tyranny and oppression. As Evey uncovers the truth about V's mysterious background, she also discovers the truth about herself - and emerges as his unlikely ally in the culmination of his plot to bring freedom and justice back to a society fraught with cruelty and corruption.
Think that they'll be adjusting any of that due to the recent bombings in London?
-JT
The Wachowski brothers had better not fuck this one up. V for Vendetta is a stellar graphic novel and a must read for anyone who enjoyed either 1984 or A Clockwork Orange. I'd hate to see something with such a wonderful story cheapened by hollywood gimmicks.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_for_Vendetta
V for Vendetta is a comic book series written by Alan Moore and illustrated mostly by David Lloyd (Tony Weare did the art for "Vincent" and additional art for "Valerie" and "The Vacation"), set in a dystopian future Britain where a mysterious anarchist works to destroy the fascist government and profoundly affects the people he encounters.
Is this a movie tie-in for the new Windows Vista?
The question going around the Mac forum at Ars is, what are they using to encode 5.1 channel AAC audio in these new H.265 trailers?
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I see a lot of people on here that bash the brothers for their poor work after the Matrix. IMHO, it's really hard for anyone to live up to the Matrix, even it's own creators. I think we expect a movie coming from these two guys to be as original and amazing as the Matrix all over again, and that's not easy.
V for Vendetta is based on the comic with the same name. It's one excellent comic, focusing on totalism, freedom, hope, love and payback. The comic's artwork is dirty and raw, creating a very fitting atmosphere for the dystopic story.
Those of you who have read V, probably know that when it hits the mainstream, people will draw parallels to the real world (USA and GB) today. It's as topical as ever.
V for Vendetta only costs $13.59 at Amazon - buy it. It's an intelligent comic and uses the medium to send an important message.
After watching this I peed myself, and memories of the Penny Arcade comic about Americas Army flushed into my mind, whizzing around for many a minute, until it flowed out gracefully.
I guess my penis is proud of me.
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If you just want to get to the highest res trailer, here's the link: http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/vforvendetta/V_ trailer_1920_reflect_HD.mov
The problem for me was that I needed to upgrade to Quicktime 7. That done, my problems went away. I have an ATI Radeon 9600 Pro with 128MB on a laptop, so nothing *too* big.
I'd feel like a pedo after seeing "The Professional"
One thing I noticed about this movie is that the Brothers W (or is that Siblings W now?) is that they've handed the directors chair to a cheifly 2nd Unit and Assistant Director who's worked on both the Matrix Trilogy and the Star wars Prequels.
Considering this guy's worked on the top grossing scifi trilogies of the last few years, he must have some potential. And the bros W might have realized that while they have some great concepts, they aren't the greatest at directing.
And if you get a chance, check out the trailer in Quicktimes new HD format, I got to say it looked rather sweet on my plasma.
And the premise seems rather timely and entertaining -- Though I'm a bit worried that a Terrorist Tactic using Anti-hero might get be offensive to quite a few overly defensive Christian Neo-Arch-Conservative types, it should at least produce lots of press for the film after it's release.
However, I suspect that any paralels they make to the current state of affairs will go just as unnoticed as the paralels they made in the Star Wars Prequels.
The trailer realease is rather timely however considering this week saw a fresh round of bombings in London and the renewal of the Patriot Act in US Congress.
he wants to be a girl, he's already 3/4 of the way there. lol
Dating a dominatrix and letting her wax your eyebrows is "3/4 of the way" to being a girl in your circles? What are you, Amish or something? (If so, you better get off the Internet before you get yourself shunned!)
Shit, in most of the country, that sort of thing wont even get you kicked out of an Elk's lodge. This is 2005, for fuck's sake! Let people live how they want to live.
How many more times...? Orwell was not afraid of the Left. You are talking about a man who fought as a volunteer in the Spanish civil war. He was always however afraid of authoritarianism resulting in totalitarianism. Liberalism and authoritarianism are orthognal dimensions to Left and Right, you can choose one from each category. 1984 is a vision of an authoritarian future, not a Left wing one per se (I fail to see where the semi-autonomous trading collectives are mentioned for example).
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Orwell wrote 1984 because he was afraid of the Left. Big Brother, Uncle Joe. IngSoc, English Socialism. The Party.
Have you read any Orwell? He was a libertarian Marxist who fought in the POUM in the Spanish Civil War.
Take, for instance, these excerpts from Homage to Catalonia:
- I have no particular love for the idealised 'worker' as he appears in the bourgeois Communist's mind, but when I see an actual flesh-and-blood worker in conflict with his natural enemy, the policeman, I do not have to ask myself which side I am on.
- It was the first time that I had ever been in a town where the working class was in the saddle . . . There was much in it that I did not understand, in some ways I did not even like it, but I recognized it immediately as a state of affairs worth fighting for.
- Human beings were behaving as human beings and not as cogs in the capitalist machine.
And more importantly, from "Why I Write":
- The Spanish war and other events in 1936-7 turned the scale and thereafter I knew where I stood. Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I know it.
Don't you dare try and claim Orwell for the right. He's a Godless anti-state commie, thank you very much.
I wish I could watch the trailer, but I downloaded the 1920*1080 version and it plays at 2 fps, tops. If my computer performs this poorly on this, who has a computer that can play it properly? (I'm on an Athlon 64 3400+ w/ 1.5 GB DDRRAM and a GeForce 6800 btw)
You can always tell if it's a gamer having the problems, because they always post thier specs, no matter how irrelevant.
Grow up?
One of the W brothers wants to be a woman. Don't you find that a little odd/disgusting/unstable? If you don't, maybe you should grow up!
Wrong. One of the Wachowski's is a woman, and her name is Linda. Despite what you've seen on Jerry Springer, genuine intersexed and transgendered conditions do in fact exist, and they have nothing to do with "wants".
Some keywords for your Google searches: Gender Identity Disorder, Klinefelter's Syndrome, Intersexed, and probably many others.
Perhaps, AC, you should grow up and realize modern science and medicine has long past the point where gender is a binary designation. I thought about trying to explain the genetic information, but chances are you aren't reading and anyone that is going to mod me up is already aware of the distinction.
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The trailer actually gives me hope, as it portrays some importants scenes from the comic, as the take over of the tv channel, the torture of evey, and her under the rain.
Yes, but a true gamer would have them in his sig, preferably flashing, and the truly faithful would have a constantly updated temp and clock reading posted too.
Damn kids are lazy these days.
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Don't you dare try and claim Orwell for the right. He's a Godless anti-state commie, thank you very much.
God bless 'im.
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The left of the US today is the right everywhere else.
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Afraid.
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The right of the US today is the left of the US 50 years ago.
So where does that leave the left of the rest of the world then?
It leaves them watching two ever more blandly populist parties, with an ever diminishing amount of meaningful policy, throw turds at each other in a pointless but desperate struggle for "the middle ground".
In another 50 years they'll probably have achieved they're goal of being nothing more than a well marketed image of two opposing points of view while both parties continue to expand upon their only remaining policy: Feeding at the public trough via an ever expanding Federal government. In the meantime I'm sure they'll continue to argue bitterly and promote divsion in every media form available so that no one will notice that it's mostly bluster without substance, and that enriching themselves and their contributors is about the only action they ever really take.
Which is to say, it will leave the left (and right) of the rest of the world looking on in a strange mix of amusement and fascinated horror.
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Thanks for somebody from /. which posted this article some days ago : Alan Moore despise V for Vendetta. Most interrestingly is the yellow insert (scroll down).
Quote "MOORE SLAMS V FOR VENDETTA MOVIE, PULLS LoEG FROM DC COMICS
[The League]Alan Moore, co-creator of the "V For Vendetta" comic, has publicly disassociated himself from the upcoming Warner Brothers movie project based on the comic book and written and produced by the Wachowski Brothers. And as a result, he has cut his remaining ties with DC Comics, including future volumes of the "League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen."
Moore has promised future "League" comics will be published by a US/UK collaboration between Top Shelf and Knockabout. "
Quote : "Alan On The "V For Vendetta" Movie Alan gave some details about bits of the V For Vendetta shooting script he'd seen. "It was imbecilic; it had plot holes you couldn't have got away with in Whizzer And Chips in the nineteen sixties. Plot holes no one had noticed." "
Apparently the horse is already out of the barn...
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I wouldn't put it past them to screw this up. From someone who doesn't bother with comic books, V for Vendetta was the shining exception for me due to the strong characters, deep ideas and frightening moral of the story.
If the film is true to the book, then you have a story in which the hero is an anarchist who terrorises the UK with a bombing campaign and is also, ultimately SPOILER!!!!! a suicide bomber. He is responsible for many deaths. The books also condemns "security" measures such as CCTV and glorifies drug use. I had quite an urge to try LSD after finishing the book.
The dialogue is also many layered and, based on the Matrix trilogy, I sincerely doubt that the Wachowski's have (a) the subtlety to pull it off and (b) the humility not to think they can improve it.
The sole thing I'm looking forward to in this movie is hearing the songs actually performed (that's if they're included). Everything else fills me with a feeling of dread.
Aide-toi, le Ciel t'aidera - Jeanne D'Arc.
Nice try, but Orwells works are anti totalitarian. Totalitarism is pretty much the same on the left spectrum of politics as on the right one.
The road is just different. Animal farm is the perfect example for being anti stalinistic (although you might also interprete it as being a satire on revolutions and the outcomes) and 1984 is a clear book against an extreme form of fascism. But in the end, it does not matter if you have a stalinistic regime (which is the dead end for communism) or a fascistic (which is the dead end of capitalism), or some religiously imposed totalitaristic regime, you end up with pretty much the same a handful of people united under one big leader, controlling the masses by fear against some kind of non graspable enemy, and masses who follow like sheep, in poverty while the handful of people get richer and richer.
(It was the same under Stalin as it was under Hitler, even the parades and big events held by the NSDAP and the Communist party had similar faces. It was only the protagonists which were different, under Hitler it was a handful of people surrounding him and a bunch of german Industry leaders (which were able to weasel itself out after the Nuernberg trials). Under Stalin it was the bureaucrats surrounding him. The main difference was that under Stalin you had a higher chance to be killed if you were close to him, than you had under Hitler.
But back to Orwell, his books are timeless philosophical analysis of such regimes, and they fit basically into every spectrum of politics, because he described the mechanisms which work on every spectrum of politics. The supression of people always works the same.
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On the other hand, if you are looking for help at some forum and you describe the problem *without* giving your full specs (down to ram speed and power supply fan color), then guess what the first (and probably only) reply will most likely be? What are your specs?
You know, people who lived under socialism believe it's anti-communist/socialist book. There are so many things were exact on money about socialism in the book.
I remember one of Russians in 80s said: "I understand how you can guess this and that but how he could KNOW we have a lack of razor blades???"
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He was a libertarian Marxist
Libertarian Marxist? What is that supposed to be?
Libertarianism is a philosophy that places the rights of the individual as paramount. Marxism & Socialism are philosophies that state that the rights of the individual are subordinate to the needs of the society.
A libertarian-marxist is like a sterile-pregnant woman. Cold-heat. Honest-politicians. Microsoft-Works.
This is not a flame. I'm genuinely curious how someone can wrap one brain around two such diametrically opposed philosophies.
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Came to the right place to ask this question. As an experienced 3D gamer, I have experience in the technical aspects of hi-rez, SXyGA, starting from Dead or Alive to GTA: Hot Coffee. Go to Tools>Options>Video Menu. Turn the visual eye-candy off:
--Bullet time OFF
--Shadows OFF
--MirrorEffect OFF
--SmokingTrails OFF
--BouncingBoobies OFF
--HugoWeaving OFF
--Natalie Portman ON
--Clothes OFF
That should bump up your framerates. Betcha never heard that before, in that context, huh?
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You should read The Lion and the Unicorn before you make any more stupid comments about "left-wing people [who] have hijacked the book 1984." It is you on the right who have hijacked Orwell: the man was a dedicated leftist. The problem is that you are so poorly educated you can't distinguish between the Left and Communism (which is to the Left as Wahabbism is to Islam, or the KKK is to Conservatism - a badly distorted variant).
Orwell's attacks on the Communist Party were motivated by his belief that they were anti-revolutionary: that they were Facists in sheeps' clothing: for him, democracy was a necessity for socialism. The joke to "English Socialism" that you obviously don't understand is that it is the same sort of duck speak as "Ministry of Love" - it calls itself socialism, but is actually totalitarian - just like Stalinism.
If you actually read 1984 or Animal Farm with any literary sensitivity, you'd see how in both cases Orwell imagines socialism becoming perverted by the actions of power-hungry Communists - the very same thing he saw happening in the Spanish Civil War (and described in Homage to Catalonia, where he sees the Communist Party as second only to Franco's Facists as agents of injustice). Orwell saw real danger in socialism, true - but the danger he saw was not to a healthy capitalism (which Orwell says bluntly in The Lion and the Unicorn "does not work") but to democracy - Orwell saw democracy as always unstable, as something that had to be supported by the exertions of those dedicated to justice.
Orwell made a lot of mistakes: I think he doesn't understand that all economic systems, capitalist and socialist, are corrosive to democracy because they require either competition (which naturally leads to economic disparities, which give more power to the wealthy, and which therefore undermine democracy) or control (which suppress individual initiative and submits the individual to mass control). For democracy to work, you need to create an unstable equilibrium between planned and open economy that is sufficiently bounded to prevent either repressive sociailism or unfetterred capitalism from gaining the upper hand and suppressing individual freedoms, jolting back and forth like the pistons of a machine. But then Orwell didn't have the benefit we have of having seen what happens to a planned economy.
So will you be voting for Joe Jackson? Or Jack Johnson? I personnaly dont think JJs stance on titanium prices goes quite far enough.
This is the crass one liner thread! You should've added:
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"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."
That said, +5 Insightful
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But seriously...
The future you describe is the reality today. The US looks very twisted to observers. I've travelled in the US and know there are many, many good people there, living principled, thoughtful lives. It's a big country... but a relative few are changing it into something that the soldier-philosophers of the War Of Independence would have detested.
Rich And Stupid is not so bad as Working For Rich And Stupid.
Let me see if I can make this clearer without resorting to name calling again.
1. Orwell was obviously an anti-communist. He was a left-wing anti-communist. The first anti-communists were on the left; the dingbat Stalinist ingelligentsia in Britain and America would have disgusted him, but so would American and British conservatism. The problem here is that you've been taught to associate liberalism, the left, communism, and socialism together as though they are all the same thing. They're not: communism is a perversion of left-liberal thinking; Marx took some sound economic ideas and ran with them right off the edge of the earth. The reality is that a healthy economy is a mixed economy (as a healthy government is a mixed government, something that the great intellectual figures who founded the US understood).
2. Orwell might have supported the war in Iraq; hell, Tony Blair is supporting it, and though he's not on the left by any meaningful measurement, he's certainly not on the right, either. Orwell was in favor of opposing facism and totalitarianism wherever it was found, and would have recognized in Saddam Hussein a potential Franco or Mussolini (Saddam lacked the national base to become a real Hitler, and was motivated by pure will to power, not by the weirder psychological perversions that motivated Hitler). However, he might not have favored the current war in Iraq given some of the context (for instance, if China were suddenly to decide it's time to occupy Taiwan, Orwell would have been screaming about our wasting time in Iraq while the real threat was building in Asia).
However, I can guarantee you that Orwell would have been disgusted by the attacks on Social Security and "trickle-down economics" (he would have had quite a bit to say about the fantasy math and sophistic language used to support both positions), and he would have been disgusted by the self-serving language tricks the past two administrations have engaged in (the whole "well, he said Joe Wilson's wife, but he didn't name her, so he didn't violate the law" routine is the only thing that approaches Clinton's "it depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is" in sophistical hypocrisy). On the other hand, I don't think he would have been surprised.
Until you have read "Down and Out in Paris and London," "The Lion and the Unicorn," and "Homage to Catalonia," don't try to talk about Orwell's politics. And don't believe ANYONE who tries to tell you that Orwell was a conservative.
"What about Animal Farm? That was obviously aimed at the faults of the Soviet Union.
Someone should talk about Animal Farm."
Hey, let's not engage in crimethink. If Big Brother tells you GO was a committed commie, he certainly was.
Maybe thats because Russia turned in to a totalitarian state not a worker's paradise. There wasn't anything socialist, Communist or left, left in it, except empty rhetoric, pretty much from the point Stalin siezed power after Lenin's death. Same goes for China.
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The problem with most governments, no matter how idealistic they start out, no matter the supposed idealogy, they turn in to a small group of people, like 1%, bent on acquring power and wealth at the expense of the other 99%. In China and Russia it was the upper echelon's of the Communist party. In China most of its big companies are controlled by the upper echelon's of the Communist party. They don't care about workers at all now, if they ever did. They are exploiting Chinese workers so ruthlessly, to get rich, its the envy of the Capitalist West.
In western democracies its wealthy businessmen, executives of big companies, working hand in hand with the politicians they buy and get elected with the purchase of TV ads (just like selling soap). They maintain a facade of democracy by running candidates from two parties both of which are in their pockets, vividly exemplified by the 2004 election when a wealthy Yale Skull and Bonesman ran against
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