>> "...Who is going to really remember Microsoft and their business practices 50 years from now if the Gates' money finds a cure for malaria, AIDS, or even better...Alzheimers, diabetes, or the flu?"
No, if they find a cure for Alzheimers then surely the public *will* remember!;)
>> "If you're not, then you need to tell your manager to jump off a bridge, as he has no idea what he's talking about."
Dude... if we all had the capability to tell all our bad managers to jump off a bridge and replace them with good managers, most of us would probably be writing code instead of bitching on slashdot!;)
You aren't rebuking his post. There are some things that some people can't be swayed on? Perhaps. But GP claims everyone can be swayed on something. And it's still a long shot to say there is *absolutely no way* to sway even *some* people on *some* things. Sometimes, you just have to be creative;)
nVidia can still support official builds, though, for quality assurance. It's the geeks who would takes the extra step of compiling the newer, not yet approved by nVidia, versions for their own use. You do have a good point. What if a distro vendor packaged a non-approved nVidia driver and it had bugs and made the product look bad? Well, maybe nVidia could put in provisions that non-approved versions must come with a visible warning that it's not "official" as a compromise?
>> "Of course being able to chose one's OS is sooo much more important than being able to chose one's government. Glad you all have your priorities straight."
Unless you're proposing they negotiate a compromise wherein they will gain a choice in governement elections in return for losing a choice of pre-installed OS, then I'll venture to say your response is beside the point. Or did you intend it to be humorous?
>> "What if you know your action will hurt somebody else (more than it will benefit you) and you also know you'll get away with it?
I think you're missing the point. GP didn't indicate his advice is for the purposes of being "good", nor did he say doing what you want as long as you know the consequences means you're a good person. He just said that means you're not stupid.
That reminds me - I've always thought it was illogical when a kid hurts another kid, and the victim screams, "That hurt, dumbass!"
>> "Saying "TPM in itself isn't bad" is like saying "punching random people in the face isn't, in itself, bad." Sure, there may be some isolated situations where that's true, like when your fist is covered with a fluffy foam glove that gently dispenses cash to whomever it hits. However, in most actual, relevant interpretations of the behavior, it is in itself bad."
>>"Now we all know Google has many datacenters, and you start to wonder if they run different versions of their software. Because I fully believe you, when you say 9440 without quotes, but I do get 819 without quotes and 735 with."
Many people still don't take the GNU project seriously. People often find it easier to keep their eyes shut than to have to change their beliefs in light of what they see.
I've shown people incredible stuff on my (Linux) PC, but often when they find out it doesn't run on Windows they continue to pretend it doesn't exist.
>> "His denunciations spoke for many, who question how something built by the wisdom of crowds can become anything other than mob rule."
Perhaps they will just have to wait and see...
Lack of imagination is not a convincing argument. I'd actually like to hear a convincing argument as to what, precisely, invariably prevents such a success.
>> "Why is it news when a company advertises its own products?"
Good point.
Could it be because so many people (sheep) take Microsoft's word as coming from a reputable source, and therefore we would like to take the time to criticise it as such, rather than a joke, in an attempt to counterbalance the discrepancy?
General relativity explains that gravity is an illusion of sorts... and maybe so is the bright future of IE. Let's wait and see.
(Although, it's a fact that IE is technically behind Firefox and Opera, it will likely continue to be popular because it's Microsoft, which is an entirely non-technical reason.)
I don't think it's about xenophobia... but, personally, it doesn't help my trust in the govenment knowing that they can't, or don't want to, even keep their borders secure.
Why make it illegal and then let it happen? If you want it happen, why not legalise it? There's some discrepancy there, and it's unsettling.
I say it was bad manual design, which I suppose could have been circumvented by not taking it literally;-) I tend to take things pretty literally too though.
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What does E17, a window manager, have to do with being able to run Duke Nukem Forever? Maybe you mean Wine will have been able to run Duke Nukem Forever if it will have been released?
Also, it's unlikely that E17 will be officially stable by then. I keep up with the mailing lists and I know there's way to much work left (even though no new features will be added).
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>> "...Who is going to really remember Microsoft and their business practices 50 years from now if the Gates' money finds a cure for malaria, AIDS, or even better...Alzheimers, diabetes, or the flu?"
;)
No, if they find a cure for Alzheimers then surely the public *will* remember!
I'd mod parent up, but I can't let go of my joooooy stiiiiick!!!!
>> "If you're not, then you need to tell your manager to jump off a bridge, as he has no idea what he's talking about."
;)
Dude... if we all had the capability to tell all our bad managers to jump off a bridge and replace them with good managers, most of us would probably be writing code instead of bitching on slashdot!
>> "I doubt any of us can say that with authority."
/.? ;)
Who are you to question the authority of
You aren't rebuking his post. There are some things that some people can't be swayed on? Perhaps. But GP claims everyone can be swayed on something. And it's still a long shot to say there is *absolutely no way* to sway even *some* people on *some* things. Sometimes, you just have to be creative ;)
You think Germany's bad for a Nazi? Try travelling to Israel!
nVidia can still support official builds, though, for quality assurance. It's the geeks who would takes the extra step of compiling the newer, not yet approved by nVidia, versions for their own use. You do have a good point. What if a distro vendor packaged a non-approved nVidia driver and it had bugs and made the product look bad? Well, maybe nVidia could put in provisions that non-approved versions must come with a visible warning that it's not "official" as a compromise?
>> "Of course being able to chose one's OS is sooo much more important than being able to chose one's government. Glad you all have your priorities straight."
Unless you're proposing they negotiate a compromise wherein they will gain a choice in governement elections in return for losing a choice of pre-installed OS, then I'll venture to say your response is beside the point. Or did you intend it to be humorous?
>> "What if you know your action will hurt somebody else (more than it will benefit you) and you also know you'll get away with it?
I think you're missing the point. GP didn't indicate his advice is for the purposes of being "good", nor did he say doing what you want as long as you know the consequences means you're a good person. He just said that means you're not stupid.
That reminds me - I've always thought it was illogical when a kid hurts another kid, and the victim screams, "That hurt, dumbass!"
>> "Saying "TPM in itself isn't bad" is like saying "punching random people in the face isn't, in itself, bad." Sure, there may be some isolated situations where that's true, like when your fist is covered with a fluffy foam glove that gently dispenses cash to whomever it hits. However, in most actual, relevant interpretations of the behavior, it is in itself bad."
;)
Obviously, you need to be introduced to this.
>> "Outlook requires IE as well or it just won't work."
;)
That's because you're not done until you replace Outlook with Thunderbird
>>"Now we all know Google has many datacenters, and you start to wonder if they run different versions of their software. Because I fully believe you, when you say 9440 without quotes, but I do get 819 without quotes and 735 with."
It depends on the mood of the pigeons.
>> "Just look at how many long time monikers you no longer see."
:)
Well, one things is for sure: we'll never be rid of Anonymous Coward!
*Your actual mileage may vary.
Many people still don't take the GNU project seriously. People often find it easier to keep their eyes shut than to have to change their beliefs in light of what they see.
I've shown people incredible stuff on my (Linux) PC, but often when they find out it doesn't run on Windows they continue to pretend it doesn't exist.
>> "His denunciations spoke for many, who question how something built by the wisdom of crowds can become anything other than mob rule."
Perhaps they will just have to wait and see...
Lack of imagination is not a convincing argument. I'd actually like to hear a convincing argument as to what, precisely, invariably prevents such a success.
>> "Why is it news when a company advertises its own products?"
Good point.
Could it be because so many people (sheep) take Microsoft's word as coming from a reputable source, and therefore we would like to take the time to criticise it as such, rather than a joke, in an attempt to counterbalance the discrepancy?
General relativity explains that gravity is an illusion of sorts... and maybe so is the bright future of IE. Let's wait and see.
(Although, it's a fact that IE is technically behind Firefox and Opera, it will likely continue to be popular because it's Microsoft, which is an entirely non-technical reason.)
Now that is patently stupid!
How do you do it fishie-style? I tried it but her dorsal fin got in the way, and I ended up just giving her the flipper!
You obviously don't understand marketing. ;-)
I don't think it's about xenophobia... but, personally, it doesn't help my trust in the govenment knowing that they can't, or don't want to, even keep their borders secure.
Why make it illegal and then let it happen? If you want it happen, why not legalise it? There's some discrepancy there, and it's unsettling.
It's still unamerican, so there! ;-)
I say it was bad manual design, which I suppose could have been circumvented by not taking it literally ;-) I tend to take things pretty literally too though.
What does E17, a window manager, have to do with being able to run Duke Nukem Forever? Maybe you mean Wine will have been able to run Duke Nukem Forever if it will have been released?
Also, it's unlikely that E17 will be officially stable by then. I keep up with the mailing lists and I know there's way to much work left (even though no new features will be added).