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EFF Requests Help to Identify "Evil" Printers

jason writes "In preparation for a possible legal challenge, The Electronic Frontiers Foundation is requesting your help in identifying which printers are embedding traceable information in the documents they produce. Printer manufactures added this technology under persuasion from the government inorder to help combat counterfeiting operations, however this technology defeats the presumed anonymity most people expect from the documents they print."

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  1. "Evil" Printers? by goldspider · · Score: 4, Funny

    Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

    (I got it first!!!)

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  2. I understand now! by ErikTheRed · · Score: 4, Funny

    This explains all of the random pin-misfires I'm having on my dot-matrix printer! Thank God that it's just my government protecting me from terrorists^H^H^H counterfeiters.

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    1. Re:I understand now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Terroricounterfiet is indeed a vile scourge.

  3. Here's one by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Funny

    My old Epson LX: printouts are so atrocious you just know they come from an LX: they embed the printer model in the form of smears and distortion in the text.

    Then again, I just use it to print listings, it's not exactly photo-quality...

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  4. Finding Evil Printers by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 4, Funny

    Finding Evil Printers should be easy. Just test for the Evil Bit.

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  5. Dead giveaways by winkydink · · Score: 4, Funny

    The print heads rotate 360 degrees while ejecting green ink at great force and saying, "your mother svcks cocks in hell".

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  6. Hmmm... by TheOtherAgentM · · Score: 2, Funny

    Let me go ahead and print those model names out for you. Oh no! They know now!

  7. Do an exchange... by tktk · · Score: 5, Funny
    If you think you've done something illegal or just don't want to be tracked, I'll take the fall for you.

    Send your current model color laser printer to me. I'll even send you a 7 year old inkjet that I currently use as a footrest.

  8. Ah, this explains everything by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 2, Funny
    If not everything, at least it explains why the Bush National Guard documents were retyped in Microsoft Word with default settings.

    Without a doubt those Selectric[tm] typewriters circa 1969 all had type balls with tiny imperfections to let them be identified if ever used to leak documents potentially affecting a presidential election. Whereas Microsoft would never stoop to putting personally identifiable information into Word document files, or print to printers that weren't at least as evil as they are.

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  9. One way to test by krell · · Score: 1, Funny
    Print a blank page, go downtown, drop it in the mailbox.

    When the postman knocks on your door the next day, holding the blank page and demanding "postage due", you know it your printer is evil and nasty.

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  10. Re:Getting the word out by Shadez666 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Turning AOL'ers into thinking beings would require one mother of a donation!

  11. Re:This might help out my business... by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

    It reminds me of the old joke (or was it true?):

    Some amateur counterfeiter was driving around the Appalachians to find some hillbillies to swindle. He found a couple of dumb-looking guys sitting on their front porch, stopped the car and said, waving a freshly printed note: "any of you guys have change for a $18 bill?". One of the guys reach in his pocket and says: "sure, d'ya want 2 nines or 3 sixes?"

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  12. I like the bottom of the article by I+don't+want+to+spen · · Score: 2, Funny
    There's a link to a 'printer friendly' version. If they'd just have a link to a 'printer evil' version it would be easy ...

    Would it be possible to find out the yellow colour of the dots and use this as a background for all of your documents? Sure, it would waste ink, but unless they XOR the code, it should work.

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  13. Re:Snakeoil? by Pxtl · · Score: 4, Funny

    If it's behind the laser window, you're screwed. Optics are touchy to a level that can only be described as premenstrual.

  14. Re:MOD PARENT UP by griffjon · · Score: 2, Funny

    I always set the evil bit on my TCP/IP stack outgoing, just to check for RFC compliance: ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3514.txt

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  15. If you print a single line of text in notepad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's prints "Page 1" at the bottom, dumb ass.

  16. anonymous coward by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Funny
    Nice to see the anonymous coward option existed way back then too!

    I wonder if they used their karma bonus though?

    Personally I'm guessing they did it so the British or anyone else didn't mod them '-1 DEAD!'

  17. Re:As they should by aslate · · Score: 3, Funny

    A time for Yes Minister quotage i think:

    Sir Humphrey: "Bernard, the Official Secrets Act was not put in place to protect the secrets, it's there to protect the officials."

    And

    Sir Humphrey: "In the spirit of "Open Government", one should always make public anything that can easily be discovered by some other way."

  18. Re:Greenpeace? by radish · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dude, I think you got lost on that last inter-dimensional jump. This is the dimension where the earth is round, the sky is blue and Greenpeace is a charity that saves Whales & Dolphins. I think you want the one where they blew up the twin towers and Al Quaeda run a Gorilla sanctuary. I think it's the third on the left.

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  19. Re:Stupid question but... by gardyloo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Guy With Scream Mask: "Um... How about I pay in cash. Got change for a Canadian thousand dollar bill?"

          Yeah, Epsons can be cheap, but that's not nearly going to cover ink.

  20. Yeah, I can see it. by troon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Each dot can uniquely identify the device by it's serial number

    I can see the extra dot added, between the "t" and "s" of "its".

    I thought they were meant to be yellow?

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    1. Re:Yeah, I can see it. by tpv · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, this is slashdot.
      We use an alternative punctuation system here.

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  21. Re:I work for a manufacturer by mph · · Score: 2, Funny
    although HP are rebadging some of our equipment these days...
    Excuse me, I have to check my iPod for microdots.
  22. Re:I work for a manufacturer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Posting anonymously NOW, isn't it still kind of obvious who I am?

  23. Re:Tinfoil printouts by orthogonal · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Do NSA printers exhibit the same behaviour?"

    I dunno about NSA printers, but I hear that White House printers add a footer:

    "Psst: Valerie Plame, er, that is, Ambassador Wilson's wife is a CIA agent -- but you didn't hear it from us!

  24. Re:Yellow by DeathElk · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hmmm, you'll probably find one of your workmates had an affinity for printing documents with large areas of skin tone ;)

  25. Re:Tinfoil printouts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Oh! Oh! Oh!

    Wait!

    Print EF FE FF EF FE FF ... instead!!!

  26. Re:I work for a manufacturer by Abreu · · Score: 3, Funny

    Thank you for telling us...

    "Honey? Im going to Walmart, you want anything?"

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  27. Counterfeiting? At /these/ prices? by jesdynf · · Score: 4, Funny

    Have you seen what color ink is going for lately? Be lucky to break even if you printed anything smaller than 20s.

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  28. My printer isn't evil, it's good! by noidentity · · Score: 2, Funny

    I mistakenly selected goatse.cx when printing a document and it thankfully warned me before I caused a loss-of-vision incident at the office. They need to keep a list of these too!

  29. Re:I work for a manufacturer by flacco · · Score: 3, Funny
    Anyone who would accept a thirty-dollar bill would probably be fooled by a counterfeit done with a crayon.

    walmart employees probably have never seen large, exotic bills like the $30 in their paychecks.

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  30. Re:Tinfoil printouts by jrockway · · Score: 2, Funny

    You're saying that instead of using the yellow toner from the yellow toner cartridge, they're using color-changing fairy dust pulled from thin air?

    Somehow, I doubt that.

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  31. Re:Tinfoil printouts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Your theory doesn't work.

    I checked out the dots on my work printer with a magnifying glass and sure enough, they were there.

    I then found the serial number written on the side of the machine and wrote over the label with a new serial number (using your example of 32767).

    Unfortunately, printing out more pages still produces the same dots.

  32. Re:I work for a manufacturer by GuyWithLag · · Score: 2, Funny

    How well do you think it would go over if the Government started mandating that everybody has to turn over fingerprints at birth?

    Make electronics your hobby and buy a solder gun. And be really careless...
  33. Re:Tinfoil printouts by Ignominious · · Score: 2, Funny

    What if you run out of yellow ink?

    Warning citizen, your Lexmark printer will soon become unpatriotic - please replace the *yellow* cartridge before further printing.