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Friday Means Free Games

Joystiq has two posts up linking to sources of free games. Liberated Games offers up single player experiences, while GameOgre's list of free MMOGs will ensure you can get together with other people on the cheap. From the post: "Liberated Games is an online catalog of games that have been released for free in one way or another. This may be the full game, like Grand Theft Auto. Or it might just be the sourcecode, like Doom. Either way, this is a huge list of games that can, in some way, be had for the grand price of zero dollars and zero cents."

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  1. "free" by daviq · · Score: 0

    "Free" as in beer, or "free" as in illegal Microsoft programs registered with a crack? These games are which?

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    1. Re:"free" by Linus+Torvaalds · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well the writeup says "on the cheap", so I'd guess free as in beer. But then again, it's called "Liberated Games", so I'd guess free as in speech. But then again, it says "for the grand price of zero dollars and zero cents", so I'd guess free as in beer. But then again, it says "released for free in one way or another", so I'd guess it's time to start reaching for the paracetamol.

      At least we have the Slashdot editors that do their jobs and fix the writeup to clear up any confusion.

    2. Re:"free" by LilBlackDemon · · Score: 1, Informative

      Liberated Games has a mix of both open-source games (for those, usually only the engine and a shareware version are available) and "free as in beer" abandonware/marketware (stuff that is released for free in order to promote the release of a sequel, such as "Hidden and Dangerous"). So, both cases are correct.

  2. Horray! by AndrossUT · · Score: 1

    I for one have been waiting for a grand list of free games for a while now. There have been a few small lists here and there, but nothing all that grand. I hope these lists get properly maintained, unlike some that I have seen.

    1. Re:Horray! by Darkinspiration · · Score: 1

      It's not really a big list. And most of them are released source code that are unplayable without the original data game files. You might have more luck browsing the abandonned ware sites that are poping here and there on the web. Still it's a start. One day we might hope that the old classic games that only geeks could remembers would be free and ported....

    2. Re:Horray! by tepples · · Score: 1

      And most of them are released source code that are unplayable without the original data game files.

      Which are distributed as part of the shareware version's binary.

    3. Re:Horray! by Darkinspiration · · Score: 1

      I should have mentioned that the shareware binary are just that the demo shareware version.

    4. Re:Horray! by Maian · · Score: 1

      Ditto. Thanks for this article :)

    5. Re:Horray! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  3. Just in case.. by SPY_jmr1 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Just in case if anyone downloads GTA1 or GTA2, and having heard about GTA games having sex in them.. Just so anyone isn't disapointed, here's a NSFW link to some free on the internet. http://www.free6.com/

    Enjoy!

  4. Lacking in cowbell by B00yah · · Score: 2, Informative

    otherwise known as KOL (Kingdom of Loathing)

  5. Not trying to look a gift horse in the mouth... by KingSkippus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is a great idea, but the Liberated Games list is a bit skimpy. I noticed that a bunch of the games were shareware demos, such as Wolfenstein 3D and such, but I remember downloading hundreds of fun shareware games from BBS'es. Anyone remember William Soleau's games? God, I played Oilcap until my fingers bled...

    Also noticably absent are the amazing collection of open source software games, of which my favorite at this time would probably be Freeciv.

    1. Re:Not trying to look a gift horse in the mouth... by Nasarius · · Score: 2, Informative

      On that note, be sure to check out Underdogs, which has a ton of great old games for semi-legal download.

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    2. Re:Not trying to look a gift horse in the mouth... by arose · · Score: 1

      Wolfenstein 3D is there because it's source was released (but not data).

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    3. Re:Not trying to look a gift horse in the mouth... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      On that note, be sure to check out Underdogs, which has a ton of great old games for semi-legal download.

      No, not "semi-legal". HOTU does have some games which have been released into the public domain or otherwise authorised for redistribution, but the rest - which made up the vast majority of their collection last time I checked - are all absolutely 100% illegal to copy. It's very unlikely anyone will prosecute, but that doesn't make it legal.

    4. Re:Not trying to look a gift horse in the mouth... by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      I do know at one point there were lots of games pulled so to complaints.

      So yes they are illegel, but if anyone who mattered cared they would not be there.

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    5. Re:Not trying to look a gift horse in the mouth... by Pxtl · · Score: 1

      I think what OSS junkies want is more of a list of games that have a) free source and b) open or free-for-noncommercial content. This allows them to be pleasently hackable by end-users.

      Of course, any listing of such games would be deluged with tetris and reversi clones and it would have to be well organised to actually find the meatier projects. After all, to some people Chess is a "strategy game", so finding RTS titles among all the boardgames in listings sites is often tricky.

  6. Guild Wars? by Nasarius · · Score: 3, Interesting

    By what bizarre logic is Guild Wars "free"? Sure, it doesn't have any monthly fees, but you still have to pay for the boxed game!

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    1. Re:Guild Wars? by Kleedrac2 · · Score: 1

      Yes of course ... but in comparison to other MMO's with which you pay for the box AND pay a monthly fee it could be considered "free-to-play"

      Kleedrac

      Next time think first

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    2. Re:Guild Wars? by yRabbit · · Score: 1

      By that logic Neverwinter Nights (plus expansion(s).. or just the platinum edition..) is free. No monthly fees. :b

    3. Re:Guild Wars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's neither liberated nor free as in beer. It does not belong in the list.

      Think...

    4. Re:Guild Wars? by Kleedrac2 · · Score: 1

      I suppose if you are a narrow-minded idiot who can only see the dictionary definition of a word you would be correct.

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    5. Re:Guild Wars? by harrkev · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you are correct. But let's assume that you will play a MMORPG for at least a year. Assume $15/month for most commercial games, and $40 for the retail box. That makes it $220 for the first year, and $180 per year after that.

      Now, if a game offers no monthly fees, that makes the game $40 for the first year, and $0 per year after that. Certainly not quite free, but still a substantial bargain.

      Of course, that makes me wonder. If the publisher only takes in $40, how do they make their money? Hosting servers and providing content must cost quite a bit of money. What is actually in the "2) ???" step right before profiting?

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    6. Re:Guild Wars? by Masami+Eiri · · Score: 1

      Expansions. ArenaNet has stated there'll be expansions every 6 months or so. Speaking of which, there should be an announcement soon.

  7. Other sites by hackwrench · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Other sites by Elshar · · Score: 1, Informative

      "Abandonware" isn't free anymore than warezed games are (which is basically what the vast majority of that abandonware is, old warez). I think the jist of the submission were games that were actually free. As in released into the public domain, or have some sort of 'free' license associated with it.

      Abandonware isn't 'free'. Its warez.

    2. Re:Other sites by Seor+Jojoba · · Score: 1

      The sad thing is that people are missing (or don't care about) the distinction between what Liberated Games and the abandonware sites do. Abandonware sites find games that are no longer published or sold (but probably still under copyright protection) and make them available. Some sites like Underdogs are cool about taking games down if the author or copyrightholder asks them too, but still, abandonware isn't legal in most countries. Liberated Games is giving us free games with the permission of the copyrightholders. Here is their statement:

      We neither condone nor engage in distributing games which are commonly called "Abandonware". We strive to respect the rights of the developers and publishers who retain the distribution rights of their works. Do not ask us about including games on the site that have not been liberated by the copyright owners.

      Of course, when you can just browse around for 10 minutes and locate any pirated software you like and grab it, it's hard to make people interested. Try actually creating some of your own work and trying to protect it--oh, then you will feel the rage. Well done, Matt and Marvin! (And I think Zonk is pretty cool, too.)

  8. Tell Joystiq to buy a freakin' ad by hackwrench · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.gameogre.com/
    http://www.liberatedgames.org/
    The stories don't appear to even have links to the sites they are talking about!

    1. Re:Tell Joystiq to buy a freakin' ad by SPY_jmr1 · · Score: 1

      They do have links, just stupid non-obvious ones. You have to click on the 'Read' link below the entry.

    2. Re:Tell Joystiq to buy a freakin' ad by terrox · · Score: 1

      yeah it is a poorly designed website. 90% ads and 9% incorrect content.

  9. But... does it run Linux? by BinLadenMyHero · · Score: 0, Troll

    It would be nice to point out on the list which of these games have a Linux version.

    1. Re:But... does it run Linux? by Tanmi-Daiow · · Score: 1

      liberated games does do that

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  10. Links by Enthused · · Score: 2, Informative

    This article and the article on Joystiq it links to need LINKS to the pages themselves!

    http://www.gameogre.com/: Free MMOGs
    http://www.liberatedgames.com/: Free Single-player Games

  11. C8, maybe? by FearTheFrail · · Score: 1, Informative

    GameOgre's list is missing the platformer recently covered by Slashdot and resurrected by enthusiasts, Castle Infinity. Though they do request donations.

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  12. Open-source games are not generally free by Have+Blue · · Score: 2, Informative

    Usually, what gets open-sourced is only the core engine. The game data files, which would be required to recreate the game experience, remain under their original license and may not be freely distributed; you'd need to own an original copy of the game and use its files with the newly compiled engine.

    1. Re:Open-source games are not generally free by vga_init · · Score: 1
      I believe what is important is the engine. To you, perhaps the game data is the most important thing, but I tend to view it as the opposite; the data is the least important. Some games are old, and the data of the full game can be had very easitly. If you're really dedicated to getting that data, you can lay your hands on it in any number of ways, not excluding purchasing a copy.

      Why the source is important is because even if you did download the game without paying anyone, how are you going to play it? Wouldn't it be great if it ran natively on your operating system? Or maybe you are bugged by some feature or the lack thereof in the game. Source access opens up every door imaginable; the *whole* game is suddenly at your complete disposal, and from there you can take the engine and leave the original game data far behind.

      I do believe you are getting the whole game. It's like getting a free copy of the AD&D players handbook and complaining you don't have the whole game because it didn't come with a campaign. Since many players created their own, what more than the handbook is actually necessary?

    2. Re:Open-source games are not generally free by Have+Blue · · Score: 1

      That's a completely valid way of looking at it, but generally the reason to play a really old game (say, Doom) is that you enjoyed the content. If you are interested in creating your own data, use a more modern, powerful, and flexible engine that doesn't have as many limits (ZDoom and friends are a huge improvement over the original engine, but it would be silly to compare them to something like Unreal).

  13. Not Free! by DavidD_CA · · Score: 2, Informative

    Is this some kind of crazy advertising gimmick?

    FaitH, mentioned in the article with a screen shot, is only free as a limited version according to the company's website:

        http://www.dragonclawstudio.com/faith/upgrade/

    Unless you pay, you only appear to get about 5% of the game.

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  14. Getting to the sites by Wilson_6500 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    There's a link called "Read" near the bottom of each article's text. Clicking it takes you to the pages they describe.

  15. FaitH... by dsands1 · · Score: 1

    "FaitH does not support the browser you are using. Please bend over, pull down your knickers, and use IE 5+."

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    1. Re:FaitH... by Khuffie · · Score: 1

      I love it when sites tell you to use IE and they work perfectly fine in other browsers. Oh, and they didnt even bother to check for Opera; it doesnt give you a warning if you're using it.

    2. Re:FaitH... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Opera spoofs itself as IE, which is probably why you don't get any messages...

  16. Free MMORPG by vga_init · · Score: 2, Informative

    My favorite online RPG is Daimonin. It's a good project; very stable. It's multi-platform, and a new beta will be released soon that fixes all the things I dislike about it. Give it a look; it's bassed on crossfire code, and it's isometric (whatever that means)! :-)

    1. Re:Free MMORPG by jessejesse · · Score: 1

      Thats my favoite RPG to I cant wait for the new beta to come out. I dont know much about the cross fire code or what the heck isometric means but I do kno that when it gets outta beta I ambuying two copies.

    2. Re:Free MMORPG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The daimonin web site is temporarily offline. But you can download the game client, server and map editor from the sourceforge project page

    3. Re:Free MMORPG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  17. Fish Fillets Liberated by aralin · · Score: 1

    I would suggest to everyone to try out the Fish Fillets from the collection of the librated games. If you are running debian, its as easy as: 'apt-get install fillets-ng'. I love it and not just because bunch of my friends put the game together and I can imagine the people behind these voice overs. Anyway, really try it out. And if you like it, you can get the Original War from those guys for $5 at Fry's. Its definitely a good deal.

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  18. PVP by skreeech · · Score: 1

    any of these games have good skill based pvp?

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    1. Re:PVP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oz has good pvp.

  19. Very strange list. by S3D · · Score: 2, Informative

    Looks like list auther is not very well versed in PC gaming. A lot of old/mediocre games in the list but not best free or free open sourced games like
    wesnoth
    Steel Panthers:World At War
    Steel Panthers:Main Battle Tank
    FreeCiv

    1. Re:Very strange list. by owlman17 · · Score: 0

      Liberated Games is dedicated to cataloging all full commercial games that have been liberated and made free in playable form to the public.

      I play some of the games you mentioned myself, but the site lists only the games that were once sold in stores but are "free" now. It would be nice though if they had a section of the "best free or open source games" you mentioned.

  20. Why does slashdot disguise links to commentary... by arose · · Score: 1

    As links to the actual sites, why aren't there link to the actual sites?

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  21. Free MMORPG not listed by Soleille · · Score: 1
    http://www.medievia.com/

    Brief overview:
    Medievia is a multiplayer online text based role-playing game that has been in development since 1991. Medievia is a free virtual environment that offers imaginative game play and an environment so compelling hundreds of its users have continued to log in and play daily for five or more years. Imagine a game that has the intuition to track your happiness, pride, sadness, and fear, and then changes the game to fit your needs. Imagine a world in which intelligent monsters from afar bring chaos and evil to the world you know. Imagine a multi-player realm in which you can join together with friends and clan members to battle against other player groups in real-time quests. Imagine an online community where the relationships you form with your fellow adventurers are so strong you will remember them for a lifetime. Medievia V offers its players not only excellent game play with its Dungeon Master, Mob Factions, Dragon Lairs, Clan Ships, Bloodlines, Master Heroes and Naval Battles, but it also offers a unique social environment in which to create and sustain strong and lasting friendships.

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  22. "Medievia" is one big license violation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Further Overview: Medievia is based on stolen and misattributed Mud source code and is widely reviled by the Mud community as petty thieves. Search Google for the details.

    1. Re:"Medievia" is one big license violation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Wikipedia article on Medievia explains this accusation rather well:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medievia

  23. if we had sensible... by KillShill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    copyright laws, which didn't extend to infinity (and beyond), these games would be public domain, including their source code.

    copyright originally, in the industrial age, lasted 14 years. then someone got the idiotic idea of introducing, get ready for it, EXTENSIONS. back then 14 years was almost 1/2 or 1/3 of most life expectancies. that bone-headed move made it possible for low life greedy scumbags to introduce the idea of further extensions (and to top it all off retroactively).

    in the age of information, copyright shouldn't last more than 5 years. most products (not including in-house software which is never distributed) sell the most in the first year anyway and it trickles down to nearly a standstill in 5 years.

    if copyright holders won't respect actual, real copyright term limits, then frankly, they have no right to expect customers to respect their copyrights.

    being the law doesn't make it right. prohibition as an example. when virtually everyone in a society doesn't want it, then it goes against the wishes of the populace, aka the voters. this is a democracy after all.

    patents also need to be revised. 17(20) years is just too long these days. it needs to be proportional to the times we live in. these are not devine laws but manmade (for greed no less). patents on software is definitely a no-no. i'm thinking something less than 10 years. the fact is, the western world is choking itself and shooting itself in the foot at the same time over these issues. pissing off the end users and costing honest businesses (what few there are) massive expenses and headaches.

    and these are quite favorable changes; it makes the end users happy and therefore the companies happy (the ones that care about customers, the real ones). it would in fact make real innovation something of a possibility again. we've been stagnating quite a bit in the last 75 years or so.

    copyright/patents are not natural laws, they are wholly unnatural. the only way that it could work without massively harming the entire situation is to keep it limited in duration and scope. which clearly hasn't been the case for the last 2 centuries or so.

    horse and buggy manufacturers seem to come to mind, not sure why.

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    1. Re:if we had sensible... by sillybilly · · Score: 1

      Good luck to cutting small business expenses by shortening the intellectual property term limits. You think if patents expire in 10 years instead of 20, businesses won't be just as quick to pollute the system up that keep the just expired technologies under bay, with new patents? Instead of x amount of patents in 20 years that a small business needs to review in fear of infringement, now they have to review 2x patents in 10 years. 6 million USPTO patents in 2005? Try 12 million, in 2008. It's all about jobs, patents and intellectual property provide jobs to lawyers, programmers, and people, to keep the economy going. IP laws are meant to keep us from solutions like reinstituting telephone switchboard ladies, to give everyone something to do and be able to feed. Wouldn't you rather be a lawyer, an IP portfolio manager, a systems analyst, than a button pusher, or a switchboard operator? How do you measure the worth of your intellectual activities? I was actually offered a way to make a living, well, more like shoved down my throat, by continually rewriting software every few years, because it's job security. It's all about jobs and the economy man, because when it stops, when the last drop of oil is gone, and the quarterly growth of waste generation can't be kept up, Heaven save us all.

    2. Re:if we had sensible... by Magada · · Score: 1

      The idiot was a mouse, actually. The Mouse.

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  24. Good news! by motbob · · Score: 1
  25. Why on earth... by BuddyJesus · · Score: 1

    Does the second link go to Joystiq, which then refers you to another website? Why didn't somebody just post the second link as the list instead of commentary on the list?
    For those lazy people, the Actual List that was referred to.