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Xbox 360 for $300

Xizer writes "Wal-Mart employees have leaked the price of Microsoft's next-generation console. The Xbox 360 is set to be launched for $299.99. Additionally, games are set to be $59.99 each. Ouch. Looks like the next generation of consoles is going to burn holes in gamers' wallets even moreso than the current generation. One thing is for sure: It's time to start gearing up for an expensive Christmas."

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  1. Still $300 by TPIRman · · Score: 5, Informative

    Looks like the next generation of consoles is going to burn holes in gamers' wallets even moreso than the current generation.

    Launch price of Xbox 360: $300
    Launch price of PS2: $300
    Launch price of Xbox: $300

    If you account for inflation, the Xbox 360 is cheaper at launch than its predecessor.

    1. Re:Still $300 by despisethesun · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, but cartridges are more expensive to manufacture than CDs and DVDs. All N64 games were more expensive than Playstation and Saturn games at the time.

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    2. Re:Still $300 by DavidLeblond · · Score: 3, Interesting

      *yawn* old news.

    3. Re:Still $300 by mr_gerbik · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you account for inflation the Xbox 360 is *much* cheaper than some of its predecessors.

      Atari 2600
      1977 price: $199.95
      Adjusted for inflation: $648.83

      Colecovision
      1982 price: $199.95
      Adjusted: $405.63

      Nintendo Entertainment System
      1985 price: $199
      Adjusted: $353.16

      Inflation based on the Consumer Price Index.

      Inflation Calculator

    4. Re:Still $300 by koi88 · · Score: 5, Insightful


      One thing is for sure: It's time to start gearing up for an expensive Christmas.

      Or wait a few months and get a Nintendo Revolution. Which should be cheaper.

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    5. Re:Still $300 by lobsterGun · · Score: 4, Funny

      Your conversion sounds good to me.

      Say, since I have your attention, could you transfer these $50 US into Canadian Dollars. That should be around $920 Canadian, but between the two of us, just give me the $900 and we'll call it even.

    6. Re:Still $300 by The-Bus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not only that, but games for $60.00 aren't THAT expensive. I remember Mortal Kombat was over that amount when it first came out, and that was a decade ago. And Nintendo games in the mid-to-late 80's were in the $40-50 range, which makes them about $70-75 now.

      What I do know is that, just like with current games, prices will plummet only a few months later. I bought Burnout 3 recently for $20 and I can't say that I minded waiting a year (or so) to play it.

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    7. Re:Still $300 by jbrandon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      don't forget the effect of inflation on your wallet though. XBOX 360 isn't cheaper because the purchasing power of your dollar is also less than it was when the original XBOX came out.

      The dollar may be worth less, but I have more of them. Get it?

    8. Re:Still $300 by Fishstick · · Score: 5, Funny

      I always thought 'burning a hole in your pocket' meant that you had money, and were anxious to spend it?

      as in:

      Look at him, he just got paid and that $20 is burning a hole in his pocket.

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    9. Re:Still $300 by shoptroll · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, unless you've been living under a rock for the past 6 months, the price of AAA PC games is up to $55 (depending on the publisher).

      Half-Life 2 was (and still is) billed at $55. I think Doom3 was the same at launch.

      Also, Blizzard/Vivendi charged $35 for Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne. So not only are new games going for larger amounts, but expansions are trying to pull in more money.

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    10. Re:Still $300 by peculiarmethod · · Score: 3, Funny


      Well over here I can assure you there are a few kids who will learn the delights of an etch-a-scetcha this christmas.

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    11. Re:Still $300 by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're right, but this is Slashdot, the home of misappropriated analogies.

      Just you sit tight and we'll burn that bridge when we get there, OK?

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    12. Re:Still $300 by KingOfBLASH · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But if you're cheap like me and willing to wait a year you can still find clearance priced games for $10 to $20! :-D

    13. Re:Still $300 by j-turkey · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Not only that, but games for $60.00 aren't THAT expensive.

      Agreed. They're especially cheap when you consider entertainment time per dollar. A ticket for a full length movie is about $9. That's around two hours of entertainment, or about $4.50/hr. DVD's are even more expensive, not accounting for replayability. Supposing that your average game has about 20 hours of playability (I pulled that number out of my butt...but it seems pretty conservative). At $60, that's $3/hr, not accounting for replayability.

      Even at $60, most games are a relatively good value in terms of entertainment...although books, broadcast TV, and radio tend to trump it.

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    14. Re:Still $300 by justforaday · · Score: 4, Funny

      But it's sold by Nintendo of America...I mean, how much more American can you get?

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    15. Re:Still $300 by badasscat · · Score: 4, Informative

      Atari 2600
      1977 price: $199.95


      This is disputed - I and many others have seen boxes over the years with an original $249 price tag, and still more people remember seeing them in stores at that price. The general feeling now is that $249 was the initial price of this system, although actual MSRP is not so simple to just go back and look up. (The old Atari no longer exists, there was no WWW back then, and people's memories are not always accurate.)

      But, regardless, that would just make it that much more expensive, thereby further proving your point for you.

      Nintendo Entertainment System
      1985 price: $199


      The NES was also originally available as a "Deluxe Set" for $249. I think this may have been the only set available when the system was first test-marketed in New York, but I'm not sure about that.

      One thing to keep in mind about the earliest systems (though not the NES or above) is that prices were not "locked". There was an MSRP but manufacturers didn't enforce it - it was literally a suggested price, just like any other piece of electronic equipment gets. Stores could price as they saw fit. That changed around the time of the NES.

      Some other hardware launch MSRP's:

      Intellivision: $299 (mine was $280 in 1980)
      Atari 5200: $249 (although apparently you could get them near launch for $199 if you looked)
      Neo Geo AES: $699
      Sega Genesis: $249
      Sega Saturn: $399

      All of those prices would be way over $300 in today's dollars.

    16. Re:Still $300 by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Which is the unny part. i was a dyed-in-the-wool Sony freak, I have 2 PS-1's and 2 ps-2's and a crapload of PS2 games, I shunned the gamecube for the first year it was out until they dropped below the $100.00 mark, and made fun of Xbox owners that have to pay to play online (PS2 is Free on most games. I still play twisted metal black and the other older games online from time to time). So I got one for the $99.00 blowout price they have. and the last 10 games I bought have been Gamecube games. They simply seem to feel better. (Yes they typically are GC only titles.) Even games that are on both platforms look and feel better on the GC to me... 007 Nightfire for example, looks and has smoother gameplay on the Gamecube, and yes I have it for both systems.

      The fact that I can play 4 people on the Gamecube without shelling out for a special adapter and there are more fun multiplayer games for the GC than the PS2 make it something I can not ignore.

      to the point that I did not buy a PSP but a DS and I am ingoring for the forst time sony's new system that will come out...

      I really hope that sony will focus the developers on gameplay for the PS3, because the PS2 failed miserably by not having even 1/2 the great fun titles that the origional PS1 had...

      unfortunately, most games are headed down the eyecandy over playability road.

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    17. Re:Still $300 by acvh · · Score: 3, Funny

      "A controller with more than one button."

      A joystick with more than one button just confuses grandma, and it encourages developers to put game controls in places they don't belong.

  2. $300 Isn't So bad.. by fwice · · Score: 3, Insightful

    $300 isn't all of too bad for a console, especially considering the hardware present. Looking back, the NES came out at $199 initially, as did the SNES, and N64. The N64 didn't even include any games, just a solitary controller. The $60 price tag for games is what N64 games cost as well.
    I'm viewing it as a slightly more expensive initial investment. That, and only that.

    and no, I'm not planning on buying one.

  3. perhaps not as sure as you seem to think by frovingslosh · · Score: 5, Insightful
    One thing is for sure: It's time to start gearing up for an expensive Christmas.

    Do you understand that buying this, as well as lots of overpriced games, is entirely optional?

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    1. Re:perhaps not as sure as you seem to think by frovingslosh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Either that, or I raise them to think that they don't get everything they throw a trantrum for. One has to wonder about the next generation when parents make posts like yours.

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    2. Re:perhaps not as sure as you seem to think by hal2814 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have kids. It's still optional. You just have to learn to tell them no. I know that's not a popular thing to do becuase it requires effort on the parent's part.

  4. I don't think so. by Godeke · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's time to start gearing up for an expensive Christmas.

    Um, no, I don't think so. I own all three consoles from the current generation. In fact, I have two PS2s... one for the living room and one for dressing room. I didn't originally mean for it to be that way: we kept the Game Cube in the living room because when people come over: it is the best for party games. We kept the PS2 out there so my son could continue playing the games he had become accustom to. I bought the X-Box when the price dropped and put it the dressing room so at night I could play without disturbing others. The Steel Battalions reissue didn't hurt.

    In the end I *had* to get another PS2 so I could actually play games I wanted. I felt like when I was a kid and we picked up an Odyssey instead of the Atari. There weren't enough games that *I* wanted to play. I still have my X-Box but I find myself working really hard to find games that have that slight edge on the X-Box to make buying them for it worthwhile. (Psychonauts is a recent example, one of a small number).

    Combine that with the fact that Live is overrun with punk kids (and now the 360 offers the new "see me flip you off" feature... OH BOY!), the lack of full backwards compatibility and the high price games they are going for... I think I will wait like I did with the X-Box for the price drop and the bargain bins of games. Maybe... if the PS3 doesn't take all my money when it comes out.

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  5. Sorry I'll wait for HDDVD by Eunuch · · Score: 3, Insightful

    DVD has been dragging its low capacity ass for far too long. I'll wait for v2.

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  6. Better than Atari 2600 by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Way back in the day (maybe 1980?) I got an Atari 2600 for Christmas, and I think it cost $250. Games cost about $25, IIRC.

    Accoding to http://www.westegg.com/inflation/ that Atari 2600 would cost $634.91, and each cartridge would cost $63.49, in 2005 dollars.

    So Xbox 360 is actually a great deal compared to the Atari 2600 if you just look at price.

  7. I can't see any reason to complain about the price by JudgeFurious · · Score: 4, Insightful


      The price of the console is fine, exceptional even considering what you get. That's to be expected since they routinely sell these machines at a loss to get them in the hands of the game buying public.

      $60 a pop for the games is insane though. I was raised on video games and I love video games but I'll be damned if I'm ever going to give anyone $60 for a game.

      I still think the "optimum price" for a new game should be around $39. Anything more than that turns the game into an instant "I'll look at it again when it gets marked down, or I'll buy it used later on"

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  8. OT: where'd all the 4/5 comments go? by Damek · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is it just me, or has something drastically changed here at Slashdot? I'm seeing almost no 4/5-moderated comments on any Slashdot stories for the past few days...

    1. Re:OT: where'd all the 4/5 comments go? by Evro · · Score: 3, Informative

      Moderation was apparently broken, and now fixed (I guess?).

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    2. Re:OT: where'd all the 4/5 comments go? by Tsiangkun · · Score: 4, Funny

      All the insightful comments were being submitted by a script.

      I'm not seeing that stupid image/text thingy today, so I imagine the +5 posts will return shortly.

  9. Re:EXTRA EXTRA! Slashdot covers lack of news! by Momoru · · Score: 4, Funny

    There is no one more knowledgeable about the industry then Walmart employees. Just go to any Walmart video game counter and experience the vast wealth of knowledge they possess.

  10. Funny, by kryogen1x · · Score: 4, Funny

    The price of the Xbox 360 and one game at launch comes out to $360. Coincidence?

    1. Re:Funny, by wickedj · · Score: 3, Funny

      Now if only the PS3 and a new game came out to $3...

    2. Re:Funny, by Dirtside · · Score: 3, Interesting

      No, clearly the name "PS3" is merely a number in base 29 (digits: 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRS). So in reality, it'll cost $22,710!

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  11. Attn: Wal Mart Employees by ch-chuck · · Score: 3, Funny

    We have a leak in aisle 6 - send Microsoft cleanup crew immediately. Repleat, we have a leak in aisle 6.

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  12. It's not $299.99 from Wal-Mart... by rah1420 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...because Wal-Mart never prices anything ending in a '9'.

    I had heard that as an urban legend, but apparently it's true.

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  13. Minux the HD Drive too by varmittang · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't forget that you will need to upgrade later to get the HD drive and higher def games.

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  14. What?!? by GunFodder · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Who paid $199 for an NES? That was the mega-package with the robot that Nintendo put together to sneak their game console into stores that remembered The Great Video Game Crash of 1983. I bet most people bought the cheaper bundle; I know my NES console cost $80.

  15. That's because .. by dustmite · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is a Microsoft product, no one on Slashdot is going to actually pay money for it

    That's because most slashdotters' parents are going to buy it for them ;)

  16. Combat rocked for it's time by Monte · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So enlighten us - what spooky awsome video action were you using in 1977 that made Combat look so lame?

    Here's the history lesson: The idea that you could actually interact with images on a television screen was pretty damned novel back then. Stuff moved around, you shot at it, it went boom.

    Which, in the final analysis, describes most of today's popular video games as well. The images and explosions are just prettier now. But it all still boils down to "Push button, go boom", doesn't it?