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USB-Powered Linux Server Fits in Your Pocket

McSpew writes "A small company from Utah (no, not that one) has announced the BlackDog USB-powered Linux server. It includes a fingerprint reader, a 400MHz PowerPC, 64MB of DRAM and 256MB or 512MB of flash and it runs Debian. The host PC sees it as a CD-ROM drive."

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  1. Is that a Linux server in your pocket... by GillBates0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is that a BlackDog 400Mhz USB-powered Linux server with 64Mb DRAM and 512Mb of flash in your pocket or are you just really really really happy to see me...

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  2. Good but a few shortcomings by dysk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'd buy one in a second if it had an ipod-style 30/40GB hard drive. With 512MB it doesn't offer me enough storage to be useful.

    1. Re:Good but a few shortcomings by York+the+Mysterious · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Their rep at Linux World said they were working with one of the mini HD vendors (I really can't remember which) and the vendor kept dragging their feet on when the drives would be available. They wanted to be able to launch the thing pronto they they released the flash based version and put off the HD version. There is a MMC card slot so you can expand the 512 with a gig card. The HD one should be out sometime soon though.

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  3. Surprising by darthgnu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm surprised they managed to put so much power in such a small package, I wonder how much heat this thing disipates, as my IBook2 dual usb (500 mhz) PPC can get quite hot. Seems like a cool gadget, but I doubt it has a use in the "real" world besides chick-magnet because it is easier to find a better suited machine for the job, unless carrying around your webserver is your new fethish.

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    1. Re:Surprising by Black+Cardinal · · Score: 5, Funny

      but I doubt it has a use in the "real" world besides chick-magnet

      No, I don't think it will work for that, either.

    2. Re:Surprising by kalidasa · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not sure what they're doing with it, but it seems to me that if you could get this to do two things, you'd have a useful product. Get it to appear to the main computer as two items: 1. a USB drive, with an executable that includes VNC functionality and a TCP/IP over USB engine for Windows (am I right in assuming that you need additional software to establish a TCP/IP connection over USB in windows) in the memory; 2. a network device, which connects via TCP/IP over USB. Bingo, you just plug in, run the application from the FAT32 partition on the USB drive, and you can log into your own USB-powered, network-connected computer with your own data on it.

    3. Re:Surprising by Ratso+Baggins · · Score: 4, Insightful
      it may work much better as a chick-magnet than you think. Any "chick" that goes "WoW! Debian too!", and means it - is a keeper.

      The perfect "barbie" filter if you will. 8)

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    4. Re:Surprising by kvigor · · Score: 3, Informative

      The device currently consumes ~300 milliwatts max and is barely warm to the touch. Naturally it consumes far less when idle.

  4. It's not SCO but... by MULTICS_$MAN · · Score: 5, Informative

    It does co-star Darl's old IKON buddy and "Haloween memo" author Mike Anderer. There must be SCO IP in that, burn it. Oh, nevermind their "server" (you call THAT a server) just melted down anyway.

  5. Correction to article by dysk · · Score: 5, Informative
    It actually has very little to do with being seen as a CD-ROM drive by the desktop.
    To access and use your BlackDog, you merely plug it in to your host computer's USB port* and BlackDog takes over! Your host machine's monitor, keyboard, mouse, and Internet connection are taken over by BlackDog for the duration of your session, when you are done, you simply remove BlackDog and everything on the host is returned to its original state.
    1. Re:Correction to article by kvigor · · Score: 4, Informative

      The device is seen as *both* a CD-ROM and a network device. As the parent suggested, the CD-ROM is used to launch an X server on the host [1] and the network interface is used to allow that X server to communicate to the applications running on the device.

      (disclaimer: I am an employee of Realm Systems but do not speak for the company)

      [1] obviously useful only for Windows hosts, since Linux hosts will almost always have an X server running already.

    2. Re:Correction to article by kvigor · · Score: 3, Informative

      It certainly can use autorun on Windows, which is very convenient and is a primary reason for using a CD-ROM interface. But the CD image is a .ISO file served off the device's flash, which means it can contain anything. As we ship it, it has an AUTORUN.INF and an X server and some handy networking tools. But it's trivial to change the CD image to hold whatever you may want.

      This is an incredibly flexible device. You can change almost anything about it. Heck, if you're up to hacking kernel drivers, you can make it emulate ANY USB device. Thus far, we've had call for emulating CD-ROM and ethernet-over-USB. But there's no reason it can't appear to the host as a mass storage device. Or a keyboard (take *that*, keyloggers!). Or a serial port dongle. Or... anything USB at all.

      None of this flexibility, alas, will make any Linux distro in the world dumb enough to autorun software just because somebody presented a CD-ROM, unlike another certain popular OS. So autorunning on a Linux host requires a hotplug script be installed. We provide samples for some major distros and assume that the guy running Gentoo is smart enough to hack his own hotplug (or just run a .SH off the CD-ROM image).

      OS-X support is "coming soon", i.e. we plan to support it, have done nothing to prevent it working, but haven't yet spent any test cycles on it. Having got it working with the incredibly balky USB stacks in Windows and Linux, I have no doubt it will be made to work just fine.

      (again, *not* an official spokesman for the company, not legally binding, don't sue me please, yadda yadda.)

  6. Re:Wait wait wait... by Klivian · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, since none or nearly none BIOS versions can boot from a USB storage device. It's used to boot a PC in server configuration, using the Debian on the USB device. No OS are needed on the machine which it is plugged in, so there is no OS suposed to be running an able to mount it.

  7. How useful is this? by HowIsMyDriving? · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Really, how useful is this? If you need something really secure, why not make a Live CD or memory stick linux that require authentication from a the USB dongle in the form of a password or biometrics? Most PCs are much more powerful then this is, and can provide much more function.

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  8. What? by red990033 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "It includes a fingerprint reader, a 400MHz PowerPC, 64MB of DRAM and 256MB or 512MB of flash and it runs Debian..."

    Umm.. server.. what the hell can you serve up running with these specs? Seriously, what practical applications could be run with this now-a-days, or more the relavent question, in the coming future?

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    1. Re:What? by stox · · Score: 3, Informative

      Quite a bit could be served off such a platform. The first website I administered ran off a 50MHz Sparc with 64MB of memory. Static content would not be a problem at all. I'm afraid java would be out of the question, though. ;->

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  9. No Ethernet? by hotspotbloc · · Score: 4, Interesting
    As far as I can see it only has usb ports and piggybacks off of another computer. Of course an usb to ethernet converter (yes, never a good idea) would help.

    There's always the Linksys NSLU-2 with ethernet for $80, just add a usb drive.

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  10. Slashdot effect....now USB powered! by Shoten · · Score: 3, Funny

    "We're so proud of our new server design, we even use one to run the company website!"

    "Uh...why's it smoking?"

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  11. Fingerprint readers - Misguided and Evil by billstewart · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Fingerprint readers and other biometric sensors are almost always a misguided idea, often an evil one, and generally not implemented well. You could get much more useful capabilities by including a small keypad on it, which could be used for passwords if you need them (which you sometimes do, depending on your application), and maybe a little 1-or-2-line LCD display for status.

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  12. Re:Saw this at Linux World SF by dr_leviathan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I too spoke with a representative at LW about this.

    The thumb-print sensor allows you to authenticate yourself without typing in your password, so it is possible (as long as what you're doing doesn't require you to type in any passwords anywhere) to safely operate the device on a host with a keystroke logger. All of the network traffic between the BlackDog and its daemon running on the host is encrypted with SSH.

    One of the niches they are hoping to full with the device is a "dongle" with licenced software installed. The licencee of the proprietary-ware could then access it on any computer as long as he/she carries the dongle with them. It also would prevent password/keycode sharing between colleagues.

    One of my co-workes pointed out that this is similar to the "SoulPad" concept:

    http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000383053938/

    except without the host boot/shutdown steps.

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  13. Re:Michael Anderer and Realm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
    Michael E. Anderer, of the SCOX "Halloween" memo fame is the CTO of Realm Systems. His old homepage "S2 consulting" hosted the developer forum for Realm. A number of other M$FT links raise the disturbing question if this product is real or elaborate "opposition" research on the part of Redmond.

    Realm Systems has secured an additional $9 million dollars in funding on July 7, 2005.

    The paper SEC filing, describing the new funding has been secured by penguinistas, and is available at : Debt and bridge financing

    $7.5 MM came from a single unnamed individual.

    Frank Artale, an ex-M$FT VP for NT, was appointed chairman of the board of Realm in January, 2005 , when Realm had secured a previous $8 million dollar investment.

    Frank Artale and Michael Anderer's stories first become entertwined over Entirenet. Entirenet is a Redmond and Bellevue, Washington based Windows documentation company. Anderer served as nominal CEO of Entirenet in the 2001- 2003 timeframe. Artale, then serving as Veritas VP for Windows had purchased Entirenet for Veritas in March 2001 for an undisclosed ammount.

    Anderer, acting as CEO of Entirenet, announced the acquisition of the South Carolina M$FT training firm, HunterStone, in November, 2002.

    Artale had left Veritas by March 2003 when his next venture "Consera Software" was announced. Consera had venture funding provided by Ignition Partners, a Seattle venture outfit staffed with a prominent group of ex-M$FT VP's, including Cameron Myhrvold. Myhrvold has especially close ties to Artale.

    Anderer left Entirenet about this time.

    Frank Artale has continued to work with Ignition Partners. He was appointed Chairman of the Board of Rendition Networks in Sept 2004, as part of a $6 million dollar Ignition investment. Rendition was quickly sold in Dec, 2004.

    Other Artale ventures include Therion, sold in May 2005. He has recently added to the Kenai Software board in July 2005 Kenai's executives, e.g. David Mock and Byrren Yates (CFO) overlap Realm's executives and public investors. Artale is considered an expert on the profitable exit sale of start ups. Other Frank Artale endeavors include advisory roles at Zenprise, Centrify, Accel Partners, and formerly a board position at Level 8.

    Michael Anderer's continuing relationship with the Seattle-area venture capital organized by highly placed ex-M$FT VP's indicates his reputation has survived the Halloween memo release.

  14. SCO connection: Realm CTO is Halloween X author by isn't+my+name · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Everyone TOTALLY got it backwards. You are supposed to go to www.sco.com, NOT realm systems!!!

    Interestingly enough, there is a SCO connection to this story.

    You may remember the famous Halloween 10 memo from Mike Anderer to two SCO execs where Anderer indicates that SCO's big $50M dollar investment came via backchannels thanks to Microsoft and that SCO should go to MS for more money?

    Well, it seems that the very same Mike Anderer is is CTO of Realm Systems makers of this device.

  15. Re:Cool Alarm by kvigor · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ethernet would have made this an instant sale for me. I could develop and demo network appliance products on the road without virtual machines. Without Ethernet, this is just a really portable terminal to me.


    Despite the summary claiming the device appears as a CD-ROM, it also appears to the host as a network device (masquerading as a ethernet-over-USB dongle). Sounds to me like it might be downright handy for your application.
  16. Don't Let That Fool You! by emcmanus · · Score: 3, Funny

    They never mean it. It's equivalent to saying "I support the war, but don't want to fight in it." In case you think I'm lying, test out their "commitment" by engaging in a conversation about, for example, the importance of data typing in a weak static typed environment. Explain how it allows the compiler to catch errors! Then watch as she walks away... ... And don't ask how I know I'm right.

    1. Re:Don't Let That Fool You! by acb · · Score: 4, Funny

      Which could mean that she's not a geek, or that she has a PhD in compiler design and resents being condescended at by someone who assumes they know more than she does (even with geeks, the nuances of interpersonal communication matter), or that she's a Lisp/Python hacker who thinks that static typing is irrelevant but doesn't feel like getting into an argument about it.

      Besides which, the assumption that women who like geeks must be geeks on the same level is not necessarily true. Nor is it necessary; the ability to have post-coital conversations about kernel optimisations is somewhat overrated.