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Mambo Changes its Name to Joomla!

Phil Shapiro writes "The popular open source content management system named Mambo has changed its name to Joomla! -- released under the GNU Public License. Some of the reasons for the name change are explained at MamboPortal.com. Joomla! is used by a very wide array of organizations and companies."

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  1. This is not good... by Deltaspectre · · Score: 4, Funny

    I thought it was pretty bad telling my friends I used Mambo...


    Now I have to say I use Joomla!, which is almost as ridiculous as saying Yahoo! out loud...

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    1. Re:This is not good... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 2, Funny

      I would have picked "Mamboner" myself. But that's just me.

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  2. Awesome by cnerd2025 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Soon, with Ubuntu and Joomba, we'll be experts in Swahili! ;-) That'd be kind of cool though.

  3. And what does this thing do, exactly? by Animats · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You can only use a stupid name if you have a really big advertising budget.

    1. Re:And what does this thing do, exactly? by FLAGGR · · Score: 2, Funny

      Case in point: Vista

    2. Re:And what does this thing do, exactly? by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Amen. It was cute when Yahoo! had an exclamation point, but Joomla! is just kinda weird.

  4. Not you too! by glitch13 · · Score: 4, Funny

    First P. Diddy, now Mambo? The Humanity!

  5. GNU Public License?! by chris_eineke · · Score: 4, Informative

    The first letter in GPL is not GNU. It's the General Public License.

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    1. Re:GNU Public License?! by cirisme · · Score: 5, Funny

      Honestly, it should really be the GPL Public License. :)

  6. Is it, or isn't it? by Corvaith · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't think I'd call it 'changing their name'. I somehow suspect that we'll still be seeing releases as Mambo from the group still affiliated with the original company, and releases of this Joomla! from this group.

    And I'm extremely wary about downloading anything put out by people who can't spell or form cohesive sentences. From the announcement:

    "Mambo has changed it's name to Joomla! today. After the develpers of the award wining content management system Mambo has left the rights holder of Mambo, the australian company Miro, they established a new website and will release the first version of Joomla!, which will be version 1.0.0, soon."

    To which I say... huh? Somebody needs to remember things like tenses, capitalization of proper nouns, and the difference between it's and its.

    1. Re:Is it, or isn't it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Poor spelling and grammar gives the reader the initial impression that the writer is either too poorly educated or too lazy to come across properly. (If they can't be bothered to produce a quality press release, why should I believe they would produce a quality product?)

      Saying "I'm a programmer, I don't need to know how to spell" shows how little some programmers understand what it takes to be taken seriously by regular people (like those who make business decisions).

    2. Re:Is it, or isn't it? by AEton · · Score: 3, Funny

      And I'm extremely wary about downloading anything put out by people who can't spell or form cohesive sentences.

      What are you doing on Slashdot?

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  7. I bin down to see... by bushboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    me Auntie Joomla, eerie ?
    Dem Mambo boys am batty wid dis namin ting.

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  8. Sounds like a load of by Andy_R · · Score: 3, Funny

    mumbo jumbo to me!

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  9. Re:Mambo Rocks by Nerd+Systems · · Score: 2, Informative

    Mambots are actually things inside of Mambo, to show pictures, and do other features, without having to code and what not... Mambo is the content management system itself... Another impressive thing... is that Mambo is so clean and efficient code-wise... I've had my site /. a few times, and each time my server has had no problems keeping up with the traffic... very impressive for an open source content management server... able to handle high-traffic sites with ease... Amazing what sites powered by Linux can do... all for FREE... I could care less WHAT they call it, as long as they keep providing such high-quality software as this... for FREE... By the way, if I was to do a shameless plug, I would say go to my websites, and click on the Google Ads... but that would just be wrong :)

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  10. Meesa gonna use Joomla! by Spy+Handler · · Score: 4, Funny

    the preferred CMS of Jar Jar

  11. Re:Mambo Rocks by aftk2 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Of course, it's no coincidence that both the sites you linked to are much more alike (functionally) than they are different.

    That's the double-edged sword of powerful systems like Mambo (and drupal for that matter, which I have used for community.auditionrocks.com, although more out of expediency than anything else): they excel at making sites that really require exactly the features that they offer, and no more. That may sound like a stupid statement, but it's no surprise that the vast majority of Mambo-powered and drupal-powered sites have a distinct Mambo or Drupal look and feel. At their best, they let you go from prototyping to actual building very quickly; at their worst, they dictate design. And breaking out of the CMSs presentation paradigm can frequently become more trouble than it's worth.

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  12. Re:Mambo Rocks by s7uar7 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I agree. I hate it when people show off about having a girlfriend.

  13. Sweet mother of God by HisMother · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why would anyone change the name of their product from a semi-reasonable English word, to a nonsense word that any adult would feel embarrassed to say out loud? I can't imagine a better way to scare off potential new users.

    Not that the company had a good business idea, or anything, but this is exactly the thing that made sure "Flooz.com" was DOA.

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    1. Re:Sweet mother of God by TheLittleJetson · · Score: 2, Funny

      a nonsense word that any adult would feel embarrassed to say out loud

      Technically, you don't say it so much as you exclaim it.

  14. Invalid markup from such people is a disgrace. by CyricZ · · Score: 5, Informative

    Indeed, it is quite disgraceful when such major web developers are unable to write valid XHTML (in this case) for their own website.

    Check if for yourself:
    http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww .joomla.org%2F

    As of this time, seven errors are reported, plus a number of warnings.

    It's difficult to tell whether it is a lack of ability, a lack of initiative, or a lack of quality control. Perhaps it is a mixture of all three factors. Regardless, it makes their project look bad. Very bad.

    The least that one should expect from a web developer is that the developer's own website is standards-conformant. The lack of professionalism shown by this group of web developers rubs off on all open source developers, unfortunately.

    They are, however, far better than PHP-Nuke, which currently offers 96 errors[1] on their homepage.

    References:
    [1] http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.phpnu ke.org/

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    1. Re:Invalid markup from such people is a disgrace. by AndreiK · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, looking through the errors, I saw that most of them were caused by the error parser, not the actual site. They had a url that had a "&" character inside quotes. That error caused the parser to assume that there was a variable undefined in the website, and caused about 5 other errors.

  15. I would not deal with you because of your site. by CyricZ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It looks very unprofessional for a site basically selling your services to contain advertisements along the side. I would be hesitant to deal with a doctor who stuck advertisements on the side of his office sign, just as I would be with a computer systems developer who sticks ads all over his commercial website.

    Not only that, but the ads are very religious in nature. Perhaps Google took the "customer service" text to mean "religious service", and thus stuck religious ads all along the right side.

    Thanks for the attempt, but I would not deal with you because of the appearance and content of your website.

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  16. I'm so excited! by Matt+Perry · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Wow! A! new! name! that! conveys! excitement! Way! to! go! Joomla! developers! I'm! looking! forward! to! checking! out! the! 1.0! release!

    On a serious note, I'm wondering what this will mean for Miro and Mambo. If Mambo has a lot of mind share then it will take some work for the Joomla people to communicate that they are the new development branch. Since Joomla is GPL then there is nothing stopping Miro from taking Joomla, renaming it to Mambo, and continuing to market it. In that case it'd be both perfectly legal and the original developers would still be writing code for Miro. Miro could continue to keep the mind share that they have invested in Mambo. I wonder how the Joomla developers plan to counteract that and market their product.

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  17. The cost of bad names by teneighty · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is an unfortunate example of why most geeks shouldn't be allowed to name things.

    Naming things is tough in this day of domain name squatters, which makes it very tempting to go with meaningless invented names (or names that sound that way to most people - e.g. "Ogg Vorbis"). Weird names are fine for things that don't require much investment to sample them -- but for the case where it does represent a significant investment (in either time, money, or risk) then a weird name can be a severe handicap to the adoption of that product.

    1. Re:The cost of bad names by cgenman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Tell that to Kodak, Albertsons, Google, Cisco, Viagra, etc.

      It's not the name... It's the lack of exposure. If someone is familiar with a name, they will have positive feelings about it and will feel more comfortable with the application / company. But most companies spend as much on advertising as they do on development. When was the last time you saw a 20-person open source development team with 20 full-time promoters?

      Pick a dumb name, stick to it, and batter people with it like there is no tomorrow. They'll make the connections on their own.

  18. Bias? by saterdaies · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Am I the only one who things this article is incredibly biased? I mean, Mambo isn't changing it's name. There will still be a Mambo. Joomla! is a project created based off of Mambo by a lot of the Mambo developers, but it isn't the new name of Mambo.

    Wait. . .this just in Red Hat Linux changes its name to SUSE (insofar as SUSE was based off RH and so clearly it is just a name change and whatever that Red Hat company continues to do isn't real).

    Now, there is a VERY strong argument that Joomla! is where all the big Mambo developers are moving and that it will be more Mambo than Mambo, but the post is libelous because Mambo isn't changing it's name. Mambo is staying around with the Mambo name.

  19. I read that as by future+assassin · · Score: 2, Funny

    JoMamma

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  20. anybody got screenshots? by dankelley · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I'm looking for a CMS and I'd like to compare. As folks are saying here, it's not easy keeping the names of various alternatives in mind. I went to the site of this CMS, looking for screenshots, but saw none. Anybody care to post some?

    Confession: I wrote the site of this CMS above, since I had forgotten the name of the site in the time it took to come back to /. to post this. So that's a sign that either (a) this new name has little sticking power or (b) um, what was I talking about?

    1. Re:anybody got screenshots? by null+etc. · · Score: 3, Informative
      Super comprehensive comparison matrix of CMS products:

      http://www.cmsmatrix.org/matrix/cms-matrix?func=vi ewDetail&listingId=VwUTL75eyPbKiKAxG3cbKA

      Following site allows you to test out live demos of open source CMS products, no login or registration required:

      http://opensourcecms.com/

  21. Re:Mambo Rocks by LnxAddct · · Score: 2, Informative

    I know alot of folks have criticized your site, but I mean really, it looks like a teenager's blog or something. If you want to see increased business, redesign a more professional site, and don't have that animation at the top with the blinking "ftp" http" "sql" etc... its almost as bad as the blink tag. Make your sight simple and elegant, not complex, not black, and don't have ads. Your selling a service, your revenue isn't based off of ads. If your services suck so bad that you need ads to support it then it says something about your service and I would think that alot of people would be hesitant to use it.
    Regards,
    Steve

  22. Re:Mambo Rocks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    heh, "server stress test"... you've said that a couple of times already, and it wasn't a particularly good comeback the first time. Face it, your site sucks, your shameless plugs are annoying, and nobody cares if your site gets a good slashdotting.

    Love, Jesus

  23. Invalid markup from Slashdot is a disgrace. by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 2, Funny

    Go ahead and TRY to see what happens when you TRY to run Slashdot, the prime butt trumpet of "standards complience" through the W3C validators. Go ahead! OH! Is that a "403 Forbidden"? Hmm....

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  24. Yahoo! to sue Joomla! over patent infringement by sidney · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yahoo! has the patent on using punctuation in trademarks as a business method to create simulated excitement in otherwise independent reviews wherever they mention the name of the product being reviewd.