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Economist Looks at the Digital Home

spisska writes "There is an excellent article this week in The Economist looking at the "digital home" and at what cable, telecom, internet, and hardware companies are doing to create the new entertainment nerve centers of the future. The article touches on what exists today (CDs, DVDs, etc), what is in production or preparation from various companies (MS MCE, IPTV, music downloads, etc), DRM, interoperability, and competing standards, among other topics. Although there is no mention of MythTV or Linux, it is a pretty solid analysis of the market as it is now and concludes that vendors are trying to hype a market into existence where there is no great consumer demand. A choice quote: "'If consumers even know there's a DRM, what it is, and how it works, we've already failed,' says Peter Lee, an executive at Disney". The article concludes: "As John Barrett, research director at Parks Associates, says, 'it seems that we've concocted a new variant of the 'paperless' office.' This, you recall, was the consensus a decade or so ago among technophiles (but almost nobody else), that computer technology would save our forests by freeing us from having to read and write on paper. Today's variant, says Mr Barrett, is 'no more tapes, CDs, DVDs, discs.' In other words, expect them to be around for a very long time to come.""

118 comments

  1. What we need... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... is Digital Viagra, the Ultimate Entertainment!! ;-)

  2. We need truly portable solutions. by CyricZ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For this non-paper media to truly catch on, we need digital devices that offer all of the benefits of paper: flexibility, portability, and inexpensiveness. While such devices exist, they are currently not widespread enough.

    These all-digital office will truly catch on once people have a piece of digital "paper" that they can use to send emails from, read specifications with, and even watch a movie with on the way home. Laptops are just too bulky for such tasks.

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    1. Re:We need truly portable solutions. by VJ42 · · Score: 1

      While such devices exist, they are currently not widespread enough.

      I'm not sure they do, I have a PDA (which is what I assume you're talking about), and for note-taking, for example, they aren't anywhere near as good as pen and paper; even with systems such as Palm's Grafitti. They're getting better, no doubt and are useful for all sorts of thigns. But not as a replacement for paper, and they have a long way too go.

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    2. Re:We need truly portable solutions. by BillyBlaze · · Score: 1

      I'd like to point out some other benefits of paper you seem to have missed. You can copy it, you can lend it to your friend, anyone can write on it, anyone can read it, and nobody can change or destroy what's written on other people's paper. These attributes exist for digital media now, but the same cable, telecom, internet, hardware, and software companies that are creating our entertainment nerve centers of the future are trying their hardest to remove these benefits.

    3. Re:We need truly portable solutions. by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      I know saying this on /. is probably suicide, but Microsoft Office OneNote on a tablet PC is absolutely brilliant for working in a school/college/university. I cut 6 lever-arch files down to one tablet PC.

      Conversion is the time consuming bit. Find something you can start a 'digital everything' policy on such as a new project at work, and encourage other people to do the same. Eventually you convert old things you use to digital because it saves time, and eventually everything is converted without you noticing.

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    4. Re:We need truly portable solutions. by rtb61 · · Score: 1
      Tablet PC are a joke. The drop factor killed them before they even got off the ground. Pick up a clip board and cart it around, drop it, pick it up and keep going. Now do that with a tablet PC and you have lost everything you have done and you have to wait for a replacement before you can continue. Tablet PCs as done by M$=B$ was a marketing excersize (for them it was perfect, with windows licenced to a machine, each time you dropped a tablet PC you would have to buy another copy of windows - crazy).

      Tablet PCs are pretty much dead until they can pass the 1.5m drop test (zero failures).

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    5. Re:We need truly portable solutions. by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      HP tr3000 - I knocked it off desks for a whole year and it kept going.

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    6. Re:We need truly portable solutions. by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Desk height .75m , 1.5m approximate chest height when being carted about. Tablet PC on a desk - more money than sence.

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    7. Re:We need truly portable solutions. by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      Tablet PC on a desk = lighter than 3 ring-binders, easily portable, easy to use (Touch screen).

      Laptops are getting there, but a tablet PC is an ideal replacement for paper. I did look at shoving a Linux distro on but for what I needed (A quick, reliable notekeeper software) I'm afraid OneNote won.

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  3. The paperless office might have been a bust... by Dobeln · · Score: 1

    ...but I certainly find they had a point. I really don't archive much physically anymore. Virtually all my documents are archived only in electronic form.

    Still, of course I often still print 'em when I am going to read them through / pass them on. Reading on paper is still better, but processing and archival has been taken over by electronic documents. So, were the paperless people right to two thirds? :P

    1. Re:The paperless office might have been a bust... by kfg · · Score: 1

      People take my picture a lot. Some of these pictures end up on the web and sometimes I run across them.

      A while ago I ran across a picture and thought my mother might like to see it, so I emailed it to her. She emailed back asking if I could print her hard copies.

      My first reaction was, "What for? It's on your computer. You can look at it any time you want."

      There is a digital divide even between people who have all gone digital. It's all in how you think about it.

      KFG

    2. Re:The paperless office might have been a bust... by CyricZ · · Score: 1

      What would you do if you ran across a digital picture of another man's cock in your mouth, taken while you were piss drunk at a college party? Would you really want it to be digital? At least you could destroy a physical picture, and there's a fair chance the picture might be gone forever. But with a digital image it could have spread to numerous sites before you learn about it, and may be virtually impossible to eliminate.

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    3. Re:The paperless office might have been a bust... by shmlco · · Score: 1
      "There is a digital divide even between people who have all gone digital. It's all in how you think about it."

      I have a iPod with thousands of songs and fifty or so Audible audio books. I have a PDA that has about 150 electronic books. I have a notebook with all of those, as well as all of my digital photos.

      Recently, however, I had to move yet again, and had to cart box after box of dead trees, CDs, and DVDs. Having all of those things on a couple of portable 100 terrabyte hard drives can NOT come soon enough.

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  4. Resistance from the paper/plastic industry? by CyricZ · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is the paper/plastic industry putting up any sort of a battle against these media giants who wish to move away from the use of paper/plastic? Unless these paper/plastic companies successfully transition themselves into manufacturers of these devices meant to replace paper/plastic, they may take a significant financial hit.

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    1. Re:Resistance from the paper/plastic industry? by beacher · · Score: 1

      Kodak is a good company to look at in this regard... Here's a forbes article.. Good summary - Despite the massive job losses, Kodak has managed to save some of its film plants by converting them to produce emerging technologies with its film emulsification know-how. It remains to be seen if the film can be adapted for other uses. It goes to mention how Kodak currently dominates the the US digital camera market with a 23.8% share. Kodak's going through some massive growth problems that's for sure.

  5. Failure by overshoot · · Score: 4, Insightful
    If consumers even know there's a DRM, what it is, and how it works, we've already failed,

    In other words, the whole plan depends on defrauding the customer into buying something other than what they were told they were getting.

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    1. Re:Failure by Stevyn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There is nothing inherently wrong with DRM. I think this guy is saying that DRM should always work in that if I pay for something, I should be able to play that file without having to worry about DRM. The problem, however, is that currently DRM doesn't work this well.

      I have no intentions on purchasing any DRM music any time soon. I want to be able to play music files on Linux, xbox and my ipod. Currently, MP3s do the job well and I have no intentions on using anything else.

    2. Re:Failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      What he meant by that was that for the customers to be conscious of the incredibly advanced procedures going down when they just want to watch a poop-joke DVD would be a strike against any development they've made.

      i.e.: Windows Media Player explaining that the DVD you bought can't be played because Windows Media Player can't verify the DRM, etc.

      He's saying that it needs to be seamless and invisible in order to be effective.. The less a consumer feels the presence of the 'law' in their home, the better that 'law' is, right?

    3. Re:Failure by Zebra_X · · Score: 1

      No the whole plan relys on providing a solution that is "transparent" to the end user. Coping songs from iPod to a computer that I own is not possible at the moment. In a world where DRM works, the iPod would know that the device that I'm trying to copy to is either mine, or one that I can use exclusively. Since it knows that the target is "trusted", it would allow the operation. As far as sharing music goes, DRM that worked might let me "lend" music to a friend or give them a period of time in which they could listen to the music before they had to get their own. DRM can be mostly not bad, but at the moment it is very poorly implemented.
      Not that I really support such ideas - but if DRM is done well, it might not be as bad as everyone thinks.

    4. Re:Failure by CyricZ · · Score: 1

      The only way to be completely certain that a consumer does not have to worry about DRM-related problems is to not use DRM at all.

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    5. Re:Failure by afree87 · · Score: 1

      Exactly. DRM is about putting restrictions on technology. If the customer never runs into any restrictions, then why use DRM at all?

    6. Re:Failure by cagle_.25 · · Score: 1
      Well, his statement is certainly ambiguous, isn't it?
      This challenge is daunting because DRM technologies should not only be compatible today, but for all eternity. Otherwise, consumers will be afraid to pay for content, and will stick with CDs and DVDs, which seem painless and safe by comparison. "If consumers even know there's a DRM, what it is, and how it works, we've already failed," says Peter Lee, an executive at Disney.
      So ... is the desire to hide DRM driven by the need for transparent compatibility ... or for the need to conceal the fact that the "purchaser" is in fact a leaser ("lessor")?

      It's most likely both. When people actually realize that they don't own what they've bought, they tend to try to find ways to claim ownership. Hence, DeCSS.

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    7. Re:Failure by E8086 · · Score: 1

      yes, scrap the DRM and the broadcast flag along with it. People should be allowed to use the hardware and software of their choosing, not have their choices of hardware restricted by the software they think they have to use. I don't want to have to buy a DRM compliant video card that's compatable with my monitor using some other DRM and my tv and dvd playes using yet other forms of DRM. The best way to not have everything work together is to restrict everything, which happens to be what DRM is. Fortunately all that can still be done with standard audio and video cable, I wonder how long until they'll want us to buy DRMed cables, maybe the $40 for 6' monster cable. Most of what the article mentions can already be done if you have it centered on a networked PC with tv-out and wireless multi-media keyboard for convenience. I'm not sure why you'd want to have a refrigerator and garage door opener to have an internet connection, imagine a virus that sets the door opener to an endless loop or one that sets your freezer temp to 50f.

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    8. Re:Failure by The_Rook · · Score: 2, Insightful

      a significant problem with drm is that while 'Big Media', its prime beneficiary demands it, the same 'Big Media' doesn't want to pay for it. for example, the entire cost of implementing the broadcast flag was expected to be born by electronics companies and consumers.

      i don't think electronics manufacturers would care more or less about drm if Big Media was willing to pick up the tab. and why should consumers pay extra for drm when all it is likely to give them is annoyance at best and aggravation at worst? witness the popularity of cheap chinese made dvd players that play fast and loose with dvd licensing costs.

      here's a question - how many people would be willing to pay extra for entertainment, movies and music, unhampered by drm? would you be willing to accept restricted access entertainment if it were priced say, 50% cheaper? for example, a CD with DRM would be priced at $8 while the unrestricted CD is $16. paradoxically, the unrestricted CD would actually be cheaper to produce (no DRM tech to license) and be more compatible with a wider variety of CD players.

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  6. It's not going to be the technology by Stevyn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's going to be how little people have to work to use it. Nobody wants another gadget that they can't figure out how to use. That said, nobody wants DRM that won't work properly. Everybody (including geeks) wants things to work out of the box and that's where these companies should focus on.

    They should make lots of mockups. They should get people to let them install this crap in their homes and see how they like or dislike it. The company that rushes some central media player that can only do what my modded xbox can do now isn't going to do well. It's going to take a lot of testing to get the final product done right.

    My guess is Apple might come out with some interesting products and I'm going to be watching out for what they do.

  7. Safe data storage. by CyricZ · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You raise an interesting point: the secure storage of digital data over long periods of time.

    Indeed, traditionally when one must store a paper document of value (ie. a will, a deed, bonds, etc.) they are deposited in a bank's safety deposit box. There would have to be an equivalent for the digital world.

    While the data could be dropped onto a tape or a hard drive, which is then deposited into an existing safety deposit box, such a solution would be less than ideal. Future technology may not be able to interact with the tape or drive. The storage device may degrade over time. Indeed, there are many problems.

    We are now finding out that CD-R's do not last more than a few years before they start losing data, if not becoming completely unreadable. So while a financially viable solution, and most likely future-compatible, they are unable to offer the durability required for archiving important digital documentation of an individual or even a small business.

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    1. Re:Safe data storage. by balloonhead · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Email.

      Yahoo, hotmail, and Gmail all offer lots of storage. That amount will only get bigger.

      I haven't lost any emails from any (I have accounts with all three - yahoo for 10 years (Shit! Getting old!), hotmail for about the same, Gmail for a year or less.

      No good (yet) for video, but handles everything else reasonably, particularly smaller files. Only real limitation is 2.5 GB storage (and counting) and network speed.

      However, it saves the probs of HDD failure, CD/DVD failure and degradation.

      Large companies with large storage solutions and automated backups are the way forward - at the moment webmail is the easiest to get onto. The key here is backups - they do it all automatically and as storage costs get cheaper and they get richer, the end result is persevering data.

      Can it be relied on in the long-term (e.g. they go bust)? - not so sure about that...

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  8. Knowledge of DRM by kfg · · Score: 4, Informative

    "'If consumers even know there's a DRM. . . we've already failed,'"

    Well Sparky, you kinda let that cat out of the bag when you forced people to watch ten minutes of ads every time they just wanted to watch a DVD, didn'ch'a?

    KFG

  9. The big problem with paper by overshoot · · Score: 1
    is that there is too much case law on the books limiting the terms a vendor can demand of a purchaser of paper goods. Back in the 19th century a publisher tried to attach a "EULA" to a book and that's where the original "Doctrine of First Sale" came from -- they Supreme Court understood paper and smacked him, hard.

    The case law today is being made by judges who have swallowed the "digital is different" line and are allowing vendors to do with bits what the Bobbs-Merrill Court wouldn't let them do with paper.

    Under the circumstances, vendors have a powerful incentive to replace paper with bits.

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    1. Re:The big problem with paper by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 3, Informative
      You misunderstand Bobbs-Merrill.

      In that case, the publisher asserted that their copyright gave them the power to control resale; it did not. As the Court noted, there was no issue of whether there was a contract at work in the case, which might have produced a different result:

      The precise question, therefore, in this case is, Does the sole right to vend (named in 4952) secure to the owner of the copyright the right, after a sale of the book to a purchaser, to restrict future sales of the book at retail, to the right to sell it at a certain price per copy, because of a notice in the book that a sale at a different price will be treated as an infringement, which notice has been brought home to one undertaking to sell for less than the named sum? We do not think the statute can be given such a construction, and it is to be remembered that this is purely a question of statutory construction. There is no claim in this case of contract limitation, nor license agreement controlling the subsequent sales of the book.

      In our view the copyright statutes, while protecting the owner of the copyright in his right to multiply and sell his production, do not create the right to impose, by notice, such as is disclosed in this case, a limitation at which the book shall be sold at retail by future purchasers, with whom there is no privity of contract.


      Where there is a contract -- which is what many courts have been finding in EULA cases -- then limits on first sale and so forth are entirely acceptable. In fact, the seminal EULA case, ProCD, dealt with public domain data, which as it was uncopyrightable, had to be protected by contract or not at all.

      EULA cases have nothing to do with machine-readable formats. They're more common in the software industry (despite typically being utterly pointless) more out of historical accident than anything else. But you can use them with paper, or other consumer goods, just as much as you please, as far as the courts seem to be saying lately.

      We'd be better off abolishing the practice altogether, however. It's dangerous.
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  10. We just need intelligent customers. by CyricZ · · Score: 0

    Only a foolish customer would allow themself to be defrauded. An intelligent, wise consumer always investigates before making purchases. And such a consumer would very likely run into discussion concerning such DRM. Thus, such a consumer would not purchase said product. If this happens on a large scale, then the producer will not do well financially. They will either fold, or produce an unencumbered product.

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    1. Re:We just need intelligent customers. by JetTredmont · · Score: 1

      Hence the worldwide revolt against Macrovision and CSS.

    2. Re:We just need intelligent customers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >An intelligent, wise consumer always investigates before making purchases.

      Except that most people don't. The best example is printers. Why are inkjet printers so popular? Laser printers are now so cheap that getting an inkjet just doesn't make any sense. And yes, I'm even talking color printers.

      Even worst, here's another example of "checking things out" before buying:

      I had to buy a fax. I didn't want a carbon or inket one, so I checked for a B&W laser fax. Turns out I could get an all-in-one (printer, scanner, copier, fax) laser machine for about 50$ more.

      Here's the catch: the clerk suggested two machines to me: one from Brother and one from HP. As I already had a color laser HP printer, I was more interested in the HP model.

      But then, the clerk told me something that REALLY made me want the HP and nothing else: the Brother needs a toner AND a drum. The HP only needs a cartridge as both the drum and toner are built into it (single unit).

      The clerk then told me "but the toner for the Brother is 10$ less than the toner for the HP. They both last for about 2000 pages". I then asked how much the drum for the Brother was and he told me "is costs 160$ but it lasts 8000 pages".

      So, the HP cost me 360$ (90$x4) for 8000 pages and the Brother cost me 480 (80$x4+160$) for the same 8000 pages.

      I guess people never compute the numbers, or else Brother would be out of business.

    3. Re:We just need intelligent customers. by falconwolf · · Score: 1

      Only a foolish customer would allow themself to be defrauded. An intelligent, wise consumer always investigates before making purchases.

      Unfortunately John Q Public many tymes doesn't investigate before making a purchase, it's only after the fact when they do.

      Falcon
    4. Re:We just need intelligent customers. by Clueless_Medic · · Score: 1
      Ok, here is why you do not get the cookie.
      Most laser cartridges can be refilled for around a tenth of the cost, (£7 or $10 dollars for a bottle of toner that can do 6 refills which would be the average life of the cartridge) before needing a replacement. Usually the drum lasts for longer than the toner as noted. My current workhorse is a Samsung 1510 which is still on its original cartridge, having been refilled 8 times in the last year and the print is as clear as when new.
      Also where the toner cartridge and drum are combined, if the drum is scratched or otherwise damaged, the cartridge is ruined. With separate units however, it is possible to fix the drum. Should a splotch appear, it's possible to wipe it off and even vacuum out the drum, if necessary. Sometimes when a cartridge is about to run out of toner, for example, it burps out a little extra toner. Because you can separate the drum from the cartridge, it's possible to clean this up instead of just throwing out the whole cartridge before it's really worn out. Another advantage is being able to remove pieces of paper that get stuck inside the drum should a paper jam occur.

      Extrapolating to your situation, if the combined toner / drum in the HP cartridge means that it cant be refilled, you are paying "diamond dust" (counterpart of the "liquid gold" inkjet inks) prices to HP for the toner, replacing the drum when you don't need to. And being an ecological vandal unless the old cartridge is recycled by someone & does not just go into landfill.

  11. Gas & Distrobution by mfh · · Score: 1

    ...flexibility, portability, and inexpensiveness...

    Gas is about $1.35/litre in Ontario right now, and this price (if you convert it to gallons) is approx 3.785 litres in a gallon. That's $5.10 Canadian for a gallon. Converted to USD? $4.30/gallon USD.

    The point I'm making is that as gas prices rise, people will want to think about portability of everything, including entertainment. We won't want to go to the store if we don't absolutely have to. We will want to download to our computers, have items delivered with free delivery.... etc.

    These all-digital office will truly catch on once people have a piece of digital "paper" that they can use to send emails from, read specifications with, and even watch a movie with on the way home.

    I think we could even see some kind of electronic transportation via mollecular rearrangement. There are systems now that can manipulate physical matter, in a crude form. I think that these systems will expand into the entertainment market soon enough.

    I know that I won't buy anything unless it's conveniant for me to do so, and the value is there. Going to the movies might be a thing of the past pretty soon... (don't get me started on the price of popcorn, that more than quadrouples our current gas price!)

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    1. Re:Gas & Distrobution by CyricZ · · Score: 1

      Here in Britain, what are high petrol prices for you North Americans are normal petrol prices for us. As such we've adapted. Many people here ride bikes. It's not uncommon to see somebody riding a bike with a wagon on the back, used to cart groceries.

      So while there will be some people who will try to limit their movement in order to reduce petrol costs, most people will adapt. They will bike to the cinema or to the video shoppe. They will bike to their local rugby or cricket game. In the end, they will often be far healthier than those who would seek to download all of their entertainment.

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    2. Re:Gas & Distrobution by JetTredmont · · Score: 1

      I can walk to Blockbuster, the grocery store, and two (yes, two) drug stores; riding a bike to them itself would be a bit of overkill. Still, it's just as easy to stop in their parking lots on the way home except in the very rare cases where we need something in an emergency (sick child, absolutely positively have to get a movie tonight). Focusing on movie nights, I tend to stop by to get a pizza and sodas on the same trip home when we're getting a movie or two.

      In fact, were four out of five Blockbusters to close their doors, I'd still be doing things this way, as I pass six of them altogether on my way home (a couple are a little down side-streets or taking alternate routes, but not overly so).

      For me, there's not much advantage getting the movie over cable and still having to drive out to pick up a pizza and drinks. The current system doesn't cost me in gas directly (although it of course costs Blockbuster in general to keep and man so many storefronts).

    3. Re:Gas & Distrobution by linzeal · · Score: 1

      Well the United States has fucked itself for not collecting appropiate taxes to build rails for transport of goods and public transportation to move people around. Our train system is a shadow of what it was 50 years ago and it is rapidly declining. We have only a dozen or so cities with significant public transportation infrastructure and many cities over a million people with nothing but buses.

    4. Re:Gas & Distrobution by jp10558 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem for the US (and Canada I would think) is we are much more spread out - Upstate NY, where I live, the closest work is often 25-40 miles away from where we live.

      This is why telecommuting is so attractive. But it may also rejuvinate the mom and pop (or at least small) stores in the towns that are closer.

      Gas prices like this will have a change on our society. Businesses that plan on having a store in a city to serve the surrounding community may see declining revenues as less and less people from the outlying communities (that can make up 40% or more of the potential customers) will drive in to shop or whatever.

      I'm not sure what will happen, as gas prices continue to rise, but it's not really possible to move into cities either - lack of available housing, the crazy bubble etc, which makes it finanicially untenable.

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    5. Re:Gas & Distrobution by falconwolf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Gas prices like this will have a change on our society. Businesses that plan on having a store in a city to serve the surrounding community may see declining revenues as less and less people from the outlying communities (that can make up 40% or more of the potential customers) will drive in to shop or whatever.

      However more people within walking distance will shop there. Usually when for whatever reason motorized travel is curtailed, in commmunities, small cities, and villages, town centers or squares are rejuvenated because they are within walking distance for many. It also works well when people work within a short walk or bike ride from where they live.

      Falcon
    6. Re:Gas & Distrobution by phobos13013 · · Score: 1

      This statement is completely circular. First you say you're spread out because the closest work is 25-40 miles away and defend it by saying that affordable housing is hard to find. Well here is one consideration, the housing wouldnt be so expensive if you didnt have a car or payment and the loads of gas you buy to traverse these insane distances. I have recently moved to a sprawled city and hate the amount i have had to increase my driving to get to work only because the public transport, i.e. buses are practically non-existant. The ironic thing is, new housing developments are popping up every 5000ft while older apartments and housing goes vacant, not because it costs too much (really it is cheaper actually) and is not centrally located (the downtown sections of most cities are falling to disrepair and abandonment even though this is where most of the work is), but because everyone wants to keep up with jones' by buying NEW! Its depressing and dangerous for our future. We should cluster our cities, and abandon far out towns for agricultural and preservationary purposes only. There is no point in developing every last square of land until weve paved over every inch of the 70% permittable area.

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    7. Re:Gas & Distrobution by jp10558 · · Score: 1

      That's not what I meant. I meant that it requires a car to get to work in this area.

      And many people who initially moved here and now are settled here because of housing costs being lower, do not have the money to move to a city where housing costs are often equal or higher than where they currently live.

      If they didn't have the money before, why would you expect them to have it now? And it's more difficult to save up, because of increased costs due to rising gas prices.

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  12. ObQuirk! by overshoot · · Score: 2, Funny
    An intelligent, wise consumer always investigates before making purchases.

    I think Disney is prepared lose a handful of sales worldwide.

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    1. Re:ObQuirk! by CyricZ · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, you could do your part by informing your non-technical relatives and friends about the dangers of DRM. Even making an effort to tell three people, who in turn tell three people, etc., will lead to the knowledge progressing.

      Best of all, most people have experienced DRM, be it in the inability to play a CD in certain players or the inability to fast forward through commercials on a DVD. They'll know what you're talking about, and may even be more than willing to learn and then spread that knowledge.

      Teach!

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    2. Re:ObQuirk! by Mythrix · · Score: 1

      So basically, someone should make a chain mail for this:

      "This is not a joke.

      Apparently, there is now a new virus called DRM. If the store you goes to offers you movies or music with DRM, DO NOT BUY IT. It WILL destroy your TV and computer if used.

      Don't ask the store clerks about it, as they think it is a feature instead of a virus. Just say no, and go to another store.

      Forward this e-mail to all your friends!"

  13. WIndows XP Media Center: inflated sales alert by dpbsmith · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A friend of mine recently saw a really good deal on a Dell PC. He bought one for his uncle and is thinking about buying another for himself.

    The funny thing was that although they were priced about $300 lower than other roughly equivalent home PC's, these were bundled with WIndows XP Media Center instead of Windows XP Home.

    They had no video-relevant hardware other than a DVD-burner.

    It took my friend an extra half-hour to make his purchasing decision because he was going crazy on the Dell and Microsoft websites trying to find out exactly what Windows XP Media Center was and to convince himself that it was not ''missing'' anything in Windows XP Home Edition.

    Oh, yes, the bundle included a 15" flat-screen monitor. So, the bundle contents were put together by someone who does not expect the PC to be connected to an existing TV. And with a 15" monitor, I don't think they expect it to be used in place of an ordinary television receiver, either.

    These PCs are definitely not going into living rooms.

    Keep this in mind the next time Microsoft starts trumpeting the great sales results it is having with WIndows XP Media Center.

    1. Re:WIndows XP Media Center: inflated sales alert by SheeEttin · · Score: 1

      These PCs are definitely not going into living rooms

      Maybe not, but people will still be using them for creating media. Thay have more input than output, don't they?

    2. Re:WIndows XP Media Center: inflated sales alert by cojsl · · Score: 1

      The digital home is hampered by a lack of an open digital standard for devices to communicate. I built an MCE box for our entertainment center, and it works wonderfully with our simple combination of media usage and sources. A friend's more complex MCE install failed to work correctly with his larger selection of TV sources, which don't have the option of a standard digital interface and the ability to inform the MCE box of their capabilities. Unfortunately, there is no consumer friendly way to get MCE to integrate with lighting, telecom, HVAC, and security either. I hope for a standard that allows interoperation of these types of devices. Wifi enabled thermostats and security gear that are consumer setup friendly, and that appear under future "My Security", "My HVAC", "My Lighting", "My Irrigation", etc... menus in MCE would go a long way toward consumer adoption. It appears that we'll have standard (DRM'd) options for his video sources soon enough, but I can't help thinking that TV/IP will be a simpler soluton than trying to get the cable box/sat tuner/ATSC tuner to all work.

    3. Re:WIndows XP Media Center: inflated sales alert by spisska · · Score: 1

      These PCs are definitely not going into living rooms.



      I'll second that. I recently helped my brother pick out a box for transfering loads of home videos. He wouldn't take my recommendation for a Mac, so we went to Microcenter. The best thing there for what he wanted was a Sony with ridiculous muscle -- p4 3.something hyperthreading, 800 FSB, the whole lot for about $1000, and running MCE.

      My brother lives in the Dominican Republic, and I know he'll never use the MCE part of the pckage -- there is no decent media editor, the TV tuner is irrelevant, and it will not be hooked up to a TV or stereo. He only bought the machine (instead of one less powered (without MCE) to edit together some home videos to burn them to DVD (he's got Ulead software, I think).

      He liked this particular one for the front-side composite ports that he's used to using with his camcorder. He didn't have a choice between XP Pro and MCE, there were no machines without MCE that could do what he wanted.

      Although I run MythTV (and you'll pry it from my cold, dead hands) I can understand most everyoe else just isn't interested. They don't want or need a central system for managing and playing media.

      People want to be able to play around with their pictures and with their home movies, and burn them so others can see. This does not put MCE in the livingroom, though I agree with you that the promotion of them, the price level of some (which must be damn near cost), and the inclusion of monitors is a deliberate attempt to boost sales figures, if only so it looks good in the annual report.
  14. xerox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Never happen.

    When photocopying came about, everyone was saysing how this would reduce paper! No more need for carbon copies.

    Instead, paper exploded. Everyone wanted a copy for themselves.

    Computers were supposed to reduce paper as well. Instead, there are now entire SECTIONS of bookstores devoted to computer books.

    1. Re:xerox by CyricZ · · Score: 1

      No. People were not saying that, especially when you consider that photocopiers inherently consume paper for each copy that is made. It did reduce the need for carbon copies in many cases, but no sensible person ever claimed it would reduce overall paper usage.

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  15. What's the magic of paper? by psb777 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My next laptop will not have a CD reader/writer. E.g. To load a new O/S I'll download the bootable image onto a USB key. Or netboot. My music CDs are never taken out of their cases anymore. Same will happen to my DVDs, sometime. So all that off-line media which is only machine-readable will go. The article is wrong.

    But paper? I carry a notebook and pen and will do so for a long time to come. No PDA for me. The article is right.

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    1. Re:What's the magic of paper? by ScrewMaster · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The only problem with your vision (which, I might add, is perfectly logical and if left to whatever passes for a free market nowadays in the U.S. would almost certainly come to pass) is that the MPAA and the movie studios are squarely against it. Anyone that wants to build and sell a box capable of ripping and storing entire DVDs will run into a world of legal hurt. That also doesn't mean that one whole lot of people aren't already doing just that ... they just can't market it as a product.

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  16. Gee, I gotta find out more about this DRM stuff!!! by almound · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Gee, I didn't know DRM is so important ... gotta find out more about it. Hmmmmmmmm .... wouldn't want any economist to fail now, would I?

    Oh, and BTW, from what little I do know about DRM ... why are the words "interoperability, and competing standards" in the same sentence alongside it? Just doesn't make sense.

  17. "Seamless" and "transparent" DOES mean "deceptive" by dpbsmith · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The comments about how he just means "seamless" and "transparent" are nonsense. DRM is always seamy and murky. It becomes seamy and murky at the exact point when you try to lend your friend a recording and it won't play on their machine.

    Or when you buy a new computer, copy all your stuff over, sell your old one, and find that you can't play your stuff because your new computer isn't authorized, and you can't authorize your computer because your old computer hasn't been deauthorized, and you can't deauthorize your old computer because you haven't got it.

    What "transparent, seamless" DRM does is to conceal the real nature of the bargain from the customer until it is too late for it to affect their buying decision.

  18. DIY Digital Home by canuck57 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    First, skip the DRM... it is a pain and is something that adds no value to the consumer thus will eventually die. Those systems that will survive will not have DRM, or deal with it so smoothly the user will not know it exists, and be cheap. Consumers are not going to pay billions or closed, proprietary DRM when they can DIY for a fraction of the cost.

    The recipe is only older PCs, or perhaps small PCs like Sokris and a wireless card.

    A list of such sites you might want to visit include:

    http://www.mythtv.org/ (entertainment)

    http://www.soekris.com/ (custom controlers)

    http://openwap.org/ (Customized wireless access point)

    http://fedora.redhat.com/ (General server for hold those mp files)

    http://www.atheros.com/ (You can get Linux/BSD drivers for the 54g wireless stuff, eg. DWL-AG650/AG520 or perhaps a prizm 54g chipset)

    http://www.bbdsoft.com/iocard_digital.html (digital I/O cards for signaling, security and control

    http://www.zorg.org/homeauto/index.shtml (Get X10 and interface to it)

    http://www.dlink.com (Get a video cam or two)

    1. Re:DIY Digital Home by westlake · · Score: 1
      Consumers are not going to pay billions or closed, proprietary DRM when they can DIY for a fraction of the cost.

      Heathkit is twenty years dead. The DIY market in consumer electronics is microscopic.

    2. Re:DIY Digital Home by drsquare · · Score: 1

      Problem with that, not everyone wants a PC in charge of TV and DVDs and music. You'll probably need to mess about upgrading and installing software. Only an option for computer nerds I'm afraid.

      1. Computers are expensive. Second hand ones are a liability and probably won't work with any hardware you want to use in them. Again you need to know about obscure computer terms.

      2. They're unreliable. Want your 'TV' crashing during the World Cup final? Want the picture freezing because the computer is doing some heavy processing for some reason? Want your TV to be hacked? Want your TV to take the best part of a minute to boot up? Want to lose recorded programmes because your hard disk had problems? Want a command line on your 40" TV telling you to fsck manually?

      3. They're complicated:
      TIVO: Plug in, turn on, the end.
      MythTV: Get computer. Install Linux (an achievement in itself), get TV card. Find out it doesn't work with Linux. Take it back. Repeat a few times until you (by a miracle) find a compatible one. Install software. Spend hours finding out how to get it to work. Learn the command line. Try installing the TV card drivers. Go onto IRC to find out. Six hours later, get a working TV card. Drag PC into living room. Set it up next to the TV, making the room look a mess. Drag wires all over your house. Manage to wire it up by a miracle. Have a computer making constant noise whilst you watch TV. Have Internet-enabled computer nearby for when something goes wrong.

      4. People don't want that, other than a fraction of a percentage. Devices such as TVs, DVD players, recorders, should plug in and then be operated simply by a simple remote control. Menus and all that.

  19. What was your friend thinking? by CyricZ · · Score: 1

    Had I run into such a scenario, when I cannot find information regarding the product within a reasonable amount of time, I would have decided not to buy the product.

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  20. Mod parent up by overshoot · · Score: 1
    What "transparent, seamless" DRM does is to conceal the real nature of the bargain from the customer until it is too late for it to affect their buying decision.

    Bingo.

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  21. What is funny is by tod_miller · · Score: 1, Interesting

    American prices come within prices in Europe, and everyone thinks it is the end of the world.

    What is ironic, is the government should have been taxing petrol up to this level for years, to pay for better education and reduce fuel consumption, and promote more healthier lifestyles.

    Low petrol costs damaged the countries coffers, damaged the countries health (and thus cost them), vastly inflated the transit economies, which will now crash.

    The whole system seemed on a knife edge. To think that all western countries tax fuel to the hilt, and the US are always trying to drive down the cost, promote WASTE of fuel (by using TAXES to sponsor the purchase of SUV's for those who can afford them already, and heck, why not give aforementioned people a tax cut to help them with their low cost fuel.)

    Now all this fuel consumption may be the reason you have already had 13 hurricanes, whereas the norm is 4.

    Just how it looks.

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  22. Need British translation by wildzeke · · Score: 1

    What is a marketing claptrap?

    1. Re:Need British translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
      From the OED; claptrap:

      Language used or sentiments expressed only to elicit applause; pretentious but empty assertions; nonsense.

      All marketing is claptrap, so marketing claptrap is a tautology.

    2. Re:Need British translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Claptrap = Bullshiat

    3. Re:Need British translation by spisska · · Score: 1

      What is a marketing claptrap?

      Bollocks. Shite. Twaddle. Crap. Bull. Balderdash. Hokum. Hogwash. Rubbish. Baloney. Gobledegook.

      Putting 'marketing' in front of the 'claptrap' makes it a little redundant.

    4. Re:Need British translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...now stick two hands in. Now clap. See? Tight, huh?

  23. Already happened in this home by mccalli · · Score: 1
    Today's variant, says Mr Barrett, is 'no more tapes, CDs, DVDs, discs.' In other words, expect them to be around for a very long time to come.""

    They exist only as source data in my home. The first thing done with any CD is to rip it, the first thing done with any DVD is to rip it. CDs get put into iTunes then streamed into my amp via an Airport Express, DVDs get converted to MP4 and streamed via an Elgato eyeHome. I have a (UK, so Series 1) hacked Tivo which handles VCR-type needs and then some. With a few hacks here and there, that also handles streaming of recently recorded video and I wrote a quick app to handle creation of a podcast from any radio programmes I'm interested in (here, if you're interested. Perl so should be cross-platform).

    Obviously that's an OS X set-up I'm talking about, but that kind of thing is possible on Linux and Windows too. It's also not an especially hard process. My bits and pieces to produce it accumulated over the years, were I starting from scratch now I think MythTV would be what I'd look at.

    Anyway, regardless of specific tools or platform the idea of no CDs or DVDs in the home is a reality right now for me. And I doubt I'm unique in this.

    Cheers,
    Ian

  24. Why is everyone SO behind the times?! by Anita+Coney · · Score: 1

    I've got computers in nearly every room in the house. Every one has a tuner. Every one can pause, fast forward, rewind live television. Every one can access all the shows I've recorded. Every one has access to my collection of over 400 movies I ripped to divx. Every one has access to my collection of over 1200 CDs. I've had this system in place for years. Why is it taking so long for everyone else to catch-up?!

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    1. Re:Why is everyone SO behind the times?! by daviddennis · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Perhaps because the average guy goes home, plops on his living room couch, and watches what's already prepared for him on TV. If he's sick of TV, he goes to his DVD collection and pulls one out.

      If this imaginary person wanted what you have, he'd buy a Media Center PC - they're not too expensive anymore. But they're not selling, which makes me think people on the average are not that interested in what it does.

      Now, I own an iPod and play all my music digitally. There's a huge difference between music and movies, though - I can listen to a single piece of music hundreds of times and still enjoy it, while watching the same movie more than a few times generally isn't of interest to me. So the utility of a giant computerized library of DVDs seems considerably less than the utility of a giant music library.

      What kind of hardware/software setup are you using for your home?

      D

    2. Re:Why is everyone SO behind the times?! by unitron · · Score: 1
      "Why is it taking so long for everyone else to catch-up?!"

      Because even now that represents a pretty fair chunk of change that others are probably spending on neccessities, investing for retirement, or using in the raising of their children?

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    3. Re:Why is everyone SO behind the times?! by Anita+Coney · · Score: 1

      No it doesn't. One of the computers I use is an old 550 PIII. Despite what the industry is telling you, to better part you from your cash, you DON'T need the greatest and latest computers to run video or MP3s. Any old computer you could find cheap at a garage sale could probably do it, with a few cheap upgrades.

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    4. Re:Why is everyone SO behind the times?! by unitron · · Score: 1

      Didn't you say you had a tuner card in every machine? What kind and how much did they cost? Is that P3 the greatest or the least of those machines?

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    5. Re:Why is everyone SO behind the times?! by Anita+Coney · · Score: 1

      "What kind of hardware/software setup are you using for your home?"

      I build my own computers. So after a few upgrades, e.g., a new motherboard here a new graphics card there, pretty soon the only thing keeping me from building a "new" computer out of the old parts is the lack of case. Which can be obtained cheaply.

      One of my systems is based on an ancient 550 Mhz PIII. I have one based on a 800Mhz AMD Athlon. Then I have a 1700+, a 3200+, a 1800+, and a 2600+ AMD XP systems, rounding out the rest. They all have at least a half of gig of RAM and generally have either ATI All-In-Wonder cards or WinFast PVR cards. They all have ATI Remote Wonders. They're all connected to an SMC7008ABR 8-port router.

      For music I'm still using Winamp after all these years. Its Media Library is great for sorting my music by genre, user, etc. I've went through my ENTIRE collection and tagged into the comment section alternate genres (e.g., I consider Public Enemy to be both "hard rock" and "rap") and names of family members who'd like the specific song. It took forever but now everyone can access and sort just "their" music quickly and easily.

      For playing back video I use PowerDVD for two reasons: YOU can set it up to skip 30 seconds (or any amount of time you want) back and forward. In other words, it'll skip commericals. And it plays DVDs directly from the VIDEO_TS.IFO file.

      And my house isn't too noisy either. I've been creative where I place them. For example, the one for the living room is stored in a "closet" room behind where the TV sits, the cables were run under the floor. No noise there. The one in our "sitting room" is a Shuttle, so it's naturally quiet. The one in our kitchen in a cupboard with the case cover taken off (for heat purposes), you can't hear it with the cupboard door closed. I have another in my garage, so that can be noisy. Mine is noisy, but I'm the only one that goes in my den, so that doesn't bother me. The rest are tucked away as best they can to minimize noise.

      And lastly, I rip DVDs with DVDx, just in case anyone is wondering.

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    6. Re:Why is everyone SO behind the times?! by Anita+Coney · · Score: 1

      The PIII was the first and is the least powered. Several years ago it had a Rage Fury Pro VIVO. One day for a lark I connected a VCR to the input and started watching TV. I hit pause on my Remote Wonder. It actually paused the TV. Pushing play started it back up again. I was hooked and bought an All-In-Wonder the same day.

      The Winfast cards are cheap, at the time you could get them from Newegg for under 50 bucks.

      If you shop around you can find off brand All-In-Wonder cards for around 90 bucks. (I notice that newegg currently has two refurbished for sale at $62 and $88 each.) I prefer those cards, because with the included GuidePlus+ software you can not only see what's currently on but see what's comming up well into the future. It's like getting premium digital cable without the monthly cost.

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    7. Re:Why is everyone SO behind the times?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because my stereo system sounds 100000000 times better than any computer setup I've ever heard.

      Sound quality counts for people who actually like music, as opposed to just thinking of it as a soundtrack to their "lifestyle".

    8. Re:Why is everyone SO behind the times?! by patio11 · · Score: 1

      Because your system takes significantly more work than "Turn on and it works", which is what all consumer electronics need to have to be accessible to the mass market. Early adopters are different. I was the first kid in school with a web page back in the day where anyone could write a daily journal, provided they knew how to format HTML properly and understood an FTP interface -- now even my mother has a blog, but she never has to deal with anymore more complicated than "type out my thoughts and hit 'post'".

  25. From TFA... by payndz · · Score: 5, Interesting
    There is a third possibility. This is that the wars continue, but consumers continue not to care.

    DING! We have a winner! Almost everybody will go right along buying individual components as they always have done, and not caring if they're interoperable or not. How many people even bother to buy a universal remote to replace the four or five you'll find in most homes now? (TV, DVD, VCR, CD, cable...)

    'Convergence' of entertainment devices in the home has one very big problem - "What if it breaks?" Since the PC has a reputation of being the most complicated and troublesome gadget in the home already, piling in all the functions from every other box is not going to make people feel safe.

    If your DVD player packs up, you buy a new DVD player - these days, you can pick them up from the supermarket with your groceries for little more than the price of an actual DVD. But if the DVD player in your super-duper Media Center PC packs up...

    And if the computer itself packs up, then you lose all your entertainment systems in one go, not just one element. And what if, in this fabulous all-digital future, you've bought music, movies, TV shows, etc, that exist as nothing more than data on a hard drive? Are they all lost too?

    MS can go on about 'educating' the consumer all they want (and the line from some MS guy along the lines of 'the consumer doesn't know what they want until we show them' really was a perfect example of that company's arrogance), but most people are unwilling to put all their eggs in one basket. Especially with hardware that is associated with the words 'crash' and 'virus'.

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    1. Re:From TFA... by Dachannien · · Score: 1

      (and the line from some MS guy along the lines of 'the consumer doesn't know what they want until we show them' really was a perfect example of that company's arrogance)

      There is truth in the MS guy's statement, but it's a truth that doesn't reach the conclusion he'd like it to. The industry shows the consumer all sorts of things that we didn't know we wanted until we see them. On the other hand, they show us a ton of crap that we instantly know we *don't* want. People like the MS guy like to sweep the crap under the rug and accentuate the things they got right to make themselves feel smarter than they really are.

    2. Re:From TFA... by Bill+Walker · · Score: 1
      MS can go on about 'educating' the consumer all they want (and the line from some MS guy along the lines of 'the consumer doesn't know what they want until we show them' really was a perfect example of that company's arrogance)

      Just Microsoft? This is precisely my problem with a lot of open source software. I ask how to do something specific, and am told that the software can't do it, and moreover never will because I ought to do it this way instead. E.g. a command line interface is more efficient for many tasks provide one learns the correct syntax and commands to use it effectively.

      I think the problem with a lot of new technology is the same. People need to be convinced that something is worth it before they invest the time to learn to use it, not after. Maybe this is the definitive difference between geeks and non-geeks.

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  26. Paperless? No. Less Paper, Yes. by hywel_ap_ieuan · · Score: 1
    In my work environment, (the planning/engineering department of a very large company) there was a shift away from paper documents starting in the late 1990s. In 1997, I was printing, copying, and mailing a 20+ page document to several dozen people each month. By 2000, anything equivalent would have been completely electronic. I bet I got my last printed memo in 1999 or so, and any news piece smaller than a corporate-wide 4-color glossy went to the web by 2002.

    PCs had been ubiquitous for several years, but it took a while for the everyone to get sufficiently comfortable with the tools (mainly MS Office) that we could be sure that all the recipients would be able to open and read whatever we sent out.

    For the last several years, most of what I printed were long documents that needed careful review, anything that was easier to scrawl on with pen or pencil (often marking up for revision) or short bits that I needed for quick access.

  27. Targetting the wrong market by plusser · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The problem with the consumer electronics market at the moment is that they are now targeting a mature and saturated entertainment market. In addition they are concentrating on extracting more money from "old" content, much of which has been in existence for years, if not decades. There will come a point where the consumer will demand a lot more from the products they are offering, before they upgrade their existing system.

    It could be argued that DRM is actually nothing new. If you think about it, subscription based television services, in particular those like Home Box Office and Pay Per view are effectively a form of DRM, in that you have to pay a fee to the broadcaster in order to view the content. In addition much of the content on these systems has been restricted using macrovision to prevent viewers from recording the programmes on their VCR.

    The problem arises in a market where companies are trying to increase their profitability margins by placing more restrictions on the product in the hope that the consumer will want to pay out more of their cash to view the same material on a new piece of equipment. The old term "money for old rope" applies here. Unfortunately, unlike in the 1980's when CDs were introduced and music lovers purchased CDs to replaced well loved but worn out vinyl, most of the current new consumer devices offer nothing new with regard to improving the entertainment experience, apart from perhaps making your music a little more portable in the case of MP3 players.

    I for one used to subscribe to Satellite television (Sky Digital here in the UK), but stopped subscribing when the quality of the television content nose-dived, while the cost of subscribing went up. Instead, I decided to subscribe to broadband, which I find much more interactive and stimulating. I could go back and subscribe to Sky at some point in the future, but you know what, I think I would prefer to spend the money on going out to the cinema instead. At least if I don't like what is on offer, I don't have to go.

    The rise of High Definition Television will possibly be a draw, especially as it has the potential to offer the cinema experience at home. The only problems I can see at the moment is that the equipment is an expensive luxury, is not yet available in the UK (until next year) and that I haven't got a big enough room to get the benefit.

    Too be serious though, rather than produce devices that provide me with more entertainment, I would be far more interested in devices that either require less energy to operate, or save me time. How about integrating a WiFi system with the heating and home security systems? Surely then the system could be given a nice easy to use interface that could be operated from the web browser of my computer, and it could even decide how to heat the house based on the whether report for the day (downloaded from the internet). It could even ensure I've locked the house up properly in the morning when I've gone off to work.

  28. BS, convergence, and proprietary technology by argoff · · Score: 1

    If there is one thing that history teaches us, it is that the technology that always wins in the market place is always among the least proprietary. Not the fastest, not the best, not the prettiest, and not the most well engineered.

    This is because the free market is 10000 times bigger than even the biggest company. And now that the 3rd world is getting into the picture it is making that even more true.

    The truth is, many of these companies don't want convergence, what they want is a proprietary lock in of the masses. Sadly, it shows that many of them couldn't understand a free market if it beat them to a bloody pulp (which it soon will). Many of these companies believe that some magical force is driving the convergence which they intend to expolit for unlimited profit, just wait till they find out that that magical force IS ADVANCES IN NON PROPRIETARY TECHNOLOGY what will doom them and lock them out.

  29. Consumer behavior by sg3000 · · Score: 2, Informative

    > An intelligent, wise consumer always investigates before
    > making purchases.

    Although your idea to get more "intelligent consumers" is admirable, it's misplaced. Basic understanding of consumer behavior indicates that "investigation" does not necessarily proceed the purchase, regardless of the "intelligence" or "wisdom" of the consumer.

    There are considered to be three types of decision making processes for consumers:
    a. Extended problem solving
    b. Limited problem solving
    c. Habitual or routine

    Extended problem solving is used for high value, high involvement goods, like cars, houses, etc. Limited problem solving is used for low value, low involvement goods. Habitual is used for low involvement items that people purchase frequently.

    For extended problem solving, the process looks as follows:
    1. Problem recognition (the consumer recognizes a "problem")
    2. Internal search (the consumer thinks of possibilities)
    3. External search (the consumer does research for other possibilities; i.e. investigation)
    4. Alternative evaluation (the consumer considers the different choices that came up from internal and external searching)
    5. Choice (the consumer makes a decision; i.e. purchases)
    6. Outcomes (the consumer evaluates their results for determining a solution for the next time)

    For low involvement decision making, there is a limited decision making process that's fundamentally different:
    1. Problem recognition
    2. Internal search (the consumer thinks of possibilities)
    3. Choice (the consumer makes a decision)
    4. Outcomes (the consumer evaluates their results)
    5. Alternative evaluation (if the consumer is unsatisfied, they seek out other alternatives that will be considered for the next time they purchase)

    (I'll skip Habitual here)

    "Investigates" implies external search and alternative evaluation, and you can see that those only occur before the purchase in an extended decision making process, but they do not occur in a limited decision making process. In a limited decision making process, the user may consider alternatives if they're not happy in the last step, so the next time they may do an extended decision making process and then they'll do an external search.

    Now no one is going to go through extended problem solving whenever they want to buy a Coke, but they may either go through extended or limited when they're going to buy a car. Often times, that's the purpose of a coupon -- to push people out of a limited decision making process or habitual process and into an extended decision making process so they'll consider the product. You can also see that limited problem solving when IT managers at companies play the game "no one was ever fired for buying XXX".

    It has nothing to do with "intelligence" as it has to do with the personal involvement with the purchase. And for a $100-200 MP3 player, a consumer isn't necessarily going to go through the extended decision process; they may recognize an iPod, file it mentally away, and tap into that knowledge when they do the internal search for a limited decision making process.

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  30. paperlessness by falconwolf · · Score: 1

    For this non-paper media to truly catch on, we need digital devices that offer all of the benefits of paper: flexibility, portability, and inexpensiveness. While such devices exist, they are currently not widespread enough.

    Paper more than likely won't disappear. The paperless office hasn't been realized because people want something physical to hold in thier hands. Then there are some like me who find it difficult reading long pages on a screen. I can read print all day but can only stand looking at a screen for a few minutes at most at a tyme, I have to look somewhere else or my eyes will strain and if I keep going I'll get an eye or headache. Because of this it takes me longer to read online and in this case write.

    Falcon
    1. Re:paperlessness by Gulthek · · Score: 1

      That was his point. People want the high resolution, high contract look of paper. Once you can carry around a piece of "paper" that looks, feels, and in all respects is paper that is also a high powered computer then we might see the start of the paperless office.

      Sure we'll still have our computer paper, but as it can be reconfigured on a whim to display whatever we need then we'll all probably only need a few pieces.

    2. Re:paperlessness by anotherzeb · · Score: 1

      For a paperless home, I'd be interested in digital media that won't hike up my electricity bill. Will this ever happen?

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    3. Re:paperlessness by falconwolf · · Score: 1

      For a paperless home, I'd be interested in digital media that won't hike up my electricity bill. Will this ever happen?

      I doubt it. The thing is though is that while you don't see it conventional paper making is dirty and releases a lot of dioxin, one of the most carcinogenic manmade chemicals there is. Forest are also clearcut to provide the pulp for paper. Both of these problems can be corrected though. Dioxin doesn't have to be a byproduct of paper making and by using hemp as a source of pulp forests can be saved. Years ago a study concluded that one acre of hemp can replace something like 9 acres of forest to produce the same amount of paper.

      Falcon
    4. Re:paperlessness by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      You had me untill the hemp part. Why do you assume switching to hemp would SAVE forests? Experience indicates the opposite:

      What do we have more of, endangered spotted owls which we don't eat or ugly smelly tasteless cows which we do?

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    5. Re:paperlessness by drsquare · · Score: 1

      Problem with computer paper, is that it's a computer. It needs electricity, it's not disposable and permanent.

      With a real document on paper, you can give it away, you can photocopy it, you can fax it without having to use the over-complex and unreliable Internet, you can pin it to the wall, you can write things on it, you can fold it up and keep it in your pocket, if it gets damaged you can replace it cheaply, you can rip bits off, it has a low barrier to entry.

  31. Re:Gee, I gotta find out more about this DRM stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gee, I didn't know DRM is so important ... gotta find out more about it. Hmmmmmmmm .... wouldn't want any economist to fail now, would I?

    Oh, and BTW, from what little I do know about DRM ... why are the words "interoperability, and competing standards" in the same sentence alongside it? Just doesn't make sense.

    You do realise that you were reading a summary of the topics that TFA talks about, not TFA itself?

    You do also realise that it's not about an economist, but The Economist , the most comprehensive and well-respected weekly news periodical in the world (At least among people who aren't complete fucking morons like you)?

  32. Drm stuff by MTWomg · · Score: 1

    As long as DRM is restrictive the consumer will always know what it is. Even the tunes DRM restricts the user to using the Ipod if they want to (legally) play music from ITMS on a portable unit.

  33. bike riding by falconwolf · · Score: 1

    Here in Britain, what are high petrol prices for you North Americans are normal petrol prices for us. As such we've adapted. Many people here ride bikes. It's not uncommon to see somebody riding a bike with a wagon on the back, used to cart groceries.

    Unfortunately not enough but a lot of people in the US ride bikes too, I used to and knew quite a few others who did too. Though I owned a car I used to ride my bike more than 100 miles a week, however this ended when I had an accident while riding. Someone driving a moving van hit me almost 9 years ago. I doubt I've ridden more than a couple of hundred miles since.

    Falcon
  34. Not necessarily a good thing. by Raven42rac · · Score: 1

    We need our homes to be like Walden once in a while. There's this places called outdoors, that we should explore on occasion.

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  35. I'm an admited geek, but still... by grumling · · Score: 1
    After all, popping in a DVD, say, is so easy and works so well. By contrast, getting a digital home up and running promises several lost weekends of fiddling with manuals and settings, and hefty expenses in new gear.

    Could someone explain to me why this continues to be put out there by the media? Last I checked, a wireless router at Best Buy and their counterparts was under $50 for the basic model, and USB-WiFi adaptors are not much, either (if your PC doesn't allready have a WiFi adaptor built in). XP searches for available networks, and pops up with a ballon when it finds one, just begging you to connect to it. The darn router comes with a poster that clearly shows how to hook everything up (1 power cable, 2 Ethernet cables, or one Ethernet cable if going totally wireless). Power cycle everything and you're online. I don't know of anyone who has trouble setting these things up. The fact is, they've never been tough to set up, unless you count setting up a NIC on Windows 95.

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    1. Re:I'm an admited geek, but still... by drsquare · · Score: 1

      What? They're talking about DVD players, not wireless Internet. Have you even read the article? By the way, unauthorised access to wireless networks can get you arrested.

      Also you're not including the cost of the computer, and the general hassle of running one.

    2. Re:I'm an admited geek, but still... by grumling · · Score: 1
      What? They're talking about DVD players, not wireless Internet. Have you even read the article?

      I believe they are talking about networking DVD players, dumbass.

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  36. fuel tax by falconwolf · · Score: 1

    What is ironic, is the government should have been taxing petrol up to this level for years, to pay for better education and reduce fuel consumption, and promote more healthier lifestyles.

    While I wouldn't mind seeing higher fuel taxes, the money thus generated by these taxes should be applied to transportation not to education or other things. Higher fuel costs will reduce fuel consumption as well as make people keep in mind how they can reduce their driving, maybe encouraging them the walk or ride bikes more. As for education, that's one thing property taxes are for.

    Falcon

  37. Not sure they know by HangingChad · · Score: 1
    Oh, yes, the bundle included a 15" flat-screen monitor. So, the bundle contents were put together by someone who does not expect the PC to be connected to an existing TV. And with a 15" monitor, I don't think they expect it to be used in place of an ordinary television receiver, either.

    It does feel like MSFT and other companies are trying to get products into the living room before they're completely ready. Reminds me of a technology manure spreader. Keep throwing crap out there and hope something sticks. Doesn't seem very well thought out, as you mentioned.

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  38. business transitions by falconwolf · · Score: 1

    Is the paper/plastic industry putting up any sort of a battle against these media giants who wish to move away from the use of paper/plastic? Unless these paper/plastic companies successfully transition themselves into manufacturers of these devices meant to replace paper/plastic, they may take a significant financial hit.

    Some companies are already making transitions. Lat year Kodak annouced they were fazing out thier film cameras and increasing their digital capabilities. There's a debate in the photo industry on whether film be compleatly replaced with digital cameras or not. There are diehards are both sides, with ditigal proponents saying technology is getting better and better and will soon surpass the quality and resolution of film while some film proponents love to work in darkrooms and don't want to do digital. Me, while I love working in darkrooms developing film and making enlargements I'm getting ichy waiting to get a digital camera. I'll have to wait at least one or two more years though, the closest that a camera comes I'm looking for is Canon's EOS 1Ds Mark II which is listed at $8,000.

    Falcon
  39. Spot On by segedunum · · Score: 1

    The article is absolutely spot on - nothing more to say. All these companies are falling over themselves thinking of how much money they're going to make, but in the consumer world all people want are simple, cheap (this isn't the business PC world remember - none of those margins here) devices that actually damn well work most of the time. Even if the digital home is made a reality, consumers want it cheap, cheap, cheap and there are nowhere near the margins that IBM, Intel and Microsoft have enjoyed in the business PC world. They really are staring at an oasis in the desert, just as we got all these analysts telling us how much would be spent on goods and services from mobile devices.

    The digital home, and all these new fancy Blu-ray formats (wonder what happened to DVD-Audio?), are going to be a very expensive failures simply because people have what they need and it actually works - most of the time ;-). This I found very revealing:

    "When you ask customers what they want, they will never tell you. You have to show them first," says Microsoft's Mr Mundie.

    I really didn't think they did not understand that much, and they don't even understand their own business model. This is not the business PC world. In a company an IT manager is not spending his/her own money. In order to get something that just works he/she will simply say "OK, we'll buy that" or "OK, after a few years we'll upgrade". The home is a completely different kettle of fish because the IT manager/consumer is spending his/her own money. They don't want expensive devices that hardly work and they certainly do not want to sign up to any sort of subscription that drains their bank balance. If you tell them what they have to buy they'll just politely show you the door, which is why the vast majority of consumers are extremely hesitant to use any sort of computer equipment in their own homes today. Microsoft doesn't seem to realise that computers and Windows amongst ordinary home users does not exactly have a good reputation.

  40. The Economist by falconwolf · · Score: 1

    You do also realise that it's not about an economist, but The Economist [economist.com] , the most comprehensive and well-respected weekly news periodical in the world

    Yea, I get "The Economist" off the newsstand occassionally. One of the things I like about it is that it covers issues other than just economy.

    Falcon
  41. The same was true in the 50's and 60's about TV by Komodowaran · · Score: 1


    The same was true in the 50's and 60's about TV. Gosh... am I *that* old already?

    What is symptomatic about the present discussion is the fact of talking about the home consumption of electronically transmitted/recorded entertainment. Just like in the old days when the then-pundits discussed fiercely if TV would eventually kill Theatre, Cinema, Newspapers and Social Life as a whole.

    Well, it didn't. The very same is true about the digital home, which is already a reality. Some use it extensively, some not, some will start to use it a couple of years, some not. Nihil novi sub sole.

    In my opinion, we actually need more efficient gear. A TV-set is an extremely easy to use piece of technology, a computer not quite so. Therefore, I think that it is not necessarily a computerized home what looms into the future, but rather a home with some appliances of embedded logic.

    Quality logic is not a complicated one. At least it doesn't dare to be complicated to use. Easy use of quality gear is what makes life more pleasant.

    The costly investment in the new gear will however probably take place first in home medical systems and energy-related appliances; entertainment and show-biz waiting for their turn.

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  42. hemp by falconwolf · · Score: 1

    You had me untill the hemp part. Why do you assume switching to hemp would SAVE forests? Experience indicates the opposite:

    In 1916 the USDA reported that hemp hurds could produce four times as much paper per acre as trees. With increased yields and improved technology this may now be higher. In addition, hemp paper is stronger. can be recycled more often, and lasts longer than tree paper.

    Benefits of Hemp Production

    ...
    Less than twenty percent of the harvest is used as raw lumber for planks and beams.(21) A dated United States Department of Agriculture ("U.S.D.A.") report claims that an acre of hemp can produce four times as much pulp and fiber as an acre of trees.(22) However, recent reports from Europe, Australia, and Canada indicate that the pulp and fiber return from hemp may be even greater than the old U.S.D.A. estimates.(23) Additionally, unlike kenaf and other alternative paper crops, hemp can grow in a variety of climates.(24) Farmers claim that they can grow hemp without pesticide or herbicide application because it grows quickly and is not likely to fall to disease.(25) Hemp also has water and fertilizer requirements similar to corn and wheat.(26)

    What Thomas Paine says:

    " In almost every article of defence we abound. Hemp flourishes even to rankness, so that we need not want cordage."

    What do we have more of, endangered spotted owls which we don't eat or ugly smelly tasteless cows which we do?

    Other than logging endangers spotted owls I'm not sure what this has to do with hemp. The fact is though is that hemp is one of the most industrially versatile plants there is, which is why it was made illegal via the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937. Thomas Jefferson even wrote the Declaration of Independence on hemp paper.

    Falcon
  43. DRM+EULA is a boiling frog scenario by UnapprovedThought · · Score: 1
    if DRM is done well, it might not be as bad as everyone thinks

    It is possible for them to put you in music heaven to temporarily get you to go along with a sweet deal that involves strong DRM, cheap songs and a EULA that lends you back some freedoms, but then after enough people have bought into it they can just change the terms of the EULA to something really draconian at any time without even telling you that they have done it. That leaves you, the consumer, with very little leverage.

    If you don't believe me that they can be so bold about it, check this article on the unfairness of EULAs to consumers. A quote from one such EULA:

    [The vendor] reserves the right, at any time ... to update, revise, supplement, and otherwise modify this Agreement and to impose new or additional rules, policies, terms, or conditions on your use of the Service... continued use of the [vendor's store] will be deemed to constitute your acceptance of any and all such Additional Terms...
  44. This is killing me... by markass530 · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure why, but all the HTPC companies are going about it way wrong. First off, most have pentium 4's. Wrong answer right off the bat, they use to much energy and create to much heat. Second off, they have video cards. Most people who play video games and/or would by an HTPC already have a XBOX/PS2 or Gaming computer. Integrated video is fine for most people, and saves a lot on cost. Finally they are craming to much crap into it, and adding uneeded cost. I have constructed one for home use using Chaintech Socket A board (IGP With integrated TV out) that I got for 50 bucks on newegg, an AMD Duron 1.8 GHZ that I Got for 40, and some cheap 512mb ram, and Large capacity ATA hard drive. Throw everything in an old VCR Or DVD Case, and bam, the perfect HTPC for anyone who cares about a budget. This is what companies should be selling, not these bloated heaters that I see everywhere.

  45. Very very very massive products are coming by heroine · · Score: 1

    The convergence products that are being designed are very very massive. The future of home entertainment resembles aerospace in its complexity. Instead of 1 company designing and shipping 1 product, there are consortiums of 10 or 20 companies designing 1 product. Dozens more companies are hired to implement modules in these single products.

    If every feature on a modern convergence product was documented in the manual, the manual would be thousands of pages long. While previous devices may have had 10 or 20 people in a single company involved in their design, today's convergence projects have at least 200,000 people spread across 20 companies and 10 countries involved in their design.

    Each company takes on a segment of the product. One company specializes in 100 acquisition pathways for video. Another company designs 100 acquisition methods for audio. Other companies design the DRM methods, playback methods. Still more companies design the storage and searching methods. It takes up to 5 years and thousands of people to define exactly how each module works and tape it out to India for implementation.

    So many different pathways of information retrieval are being designed into these products, so many algorithms for managing the data, they rival human beings in their ability to acquire and display information.

    1. Re:Very very very massive products are coming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think I speak for many when I say: WTF are you talking about?

  46. Re:Paperless? No. Less Paper, Yes. by CagedBear · · Score: 1

    It's not an easy thing to change, is it? Even in this day and age.

    My pet peeve is meeting agendas. A three page agenda for a 10 person meeting equals 30 pieces of paper that get used for an hour or two then tossed.

    I started putting the agendas on the projector in the conference room about 6 months ago. A few people stopped printing them since, but most folks just don't feel comfortable without a hard copy in hand.

  47. The downside that never seems to be highlighted. by Circlotron · · Score: 1

    This digital home bizzo in some respects sounds as cool as can be. Has anyone thought(!) perhaps just what it might be like living in one of these places where entertainment is just waiting to be shoved in one's evey orifice morning noon and night? The more opportunity there is for entertainment, presumably the more you are going to consume. There is only limited waking hours in a day so this basically means you are going to devote less time to thinking about stuff, less time pondering, less time just sitting in your comfy easy-chair musing, considering, daydreaming. Less time talking with other *people*. Some of the giants of yesteryear like Newton and Einstein were not distracted by TV and videos and games and portable MP3 players and phones that can engage you every other spare moment. Go outside for a little and look at the shape of the clouds, the trees, the sound of the birds. When I was a teenager during the 70's I was totally immersed in the elecronic technology of the day and as far as I was concerned, that was all that really mattered. I did not give a stuff about anything else. Now, at the seriously old age of 47 I realise there is much more than having to be entertained at every step and in every way, shape and form. Technology and entertainment is fine per se, but let's not swallow the line from the purveyors of such (or for that matter allow ourselves to be conciously or unconciously manipulated by them through the media they supply) that it is a most necessary, vital and indispensable part of our "digital lifestyle". (translate - existence).

  48. He's right about one thing by KwKSilver · · Score: 1

    They have failed, at least with me. I know about it and won't touch anything from the major players because it is DRM'd; and when "Trusted Computing hardware ships, I won't touch that, either. I'm already loooking at box-makers who ship Linux or FreeBSD boxes. "Window Media Edition" is Windows Slavery Edition in my book.
     
    It would almost be different if albums and movies were being sold at a rational price, but they're not and that's that. (I guess tons of heavy drugs and armies of crack-whores cost a lot.) Around 95-99% of their products are crap. Frankly, I hope Disney & the rest of the MPAA and the RIAA all go tits up. In other words, I wish for them, what they wish for us.

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  49. Power consuming appliance interoperability by whitis · · Score: 1

    This is off the narrower topic of entertainment appliances but on the larger topic of appliance intercommunications and home networking.

    One area where it would be beneficial for consumer appliances to communicate is an area where most consumers (except for a few home automation or alternate energy buffs) don't yet realize the need (not that many consumers aren't ignorant of the potential benifits of entertainment appliances interoperating seamlessly) And in many ways, energy is the more important area for interoperation.

    As cheap energy becomes more scarce it would be useful if the Inverter (Photovoltaic, wind, or fuel cell cogeneration plant) and heavy power consuming appliances interoperate reducing peak load. Examples would be electric heaters, air conditioners, Washing Machines, Dryers, Dishwashers, Lights, Microwaves, crock pots, stoves, refrigerators, and toaster ovens. Pop a burrito in the Microwave and the Washer, Dryer, and/or dishwasher automatically pause. Pop a load in each of the washer, dryer, and dishwasher before going to bed. The washing machine waits for the dishwasher to finish before it starts and the dryer waits for the washing machine. The $50 more you spend on each appliance (if widely produced, several hundred if not) is offset by the lower cost of inverters and solar panels.

    Some cheap power consuming appliances such as microwaves and toaster ovens can perhaps be passive participants. When the load on the inverter is too high because you are toasting a bagel, it tells the smarter large appliances to pause. But there is a small advantage to having the microwave and toaster oven warn the inverter a second before they start hogging power.

    Many devices can potentially delay their energy use at least some of the time. Dishwasher, Washer, Dryer, heater, AC, refrigerator (if the door hasn't been opened or it has phase change thermal storage), crock pot, etc. Most electric cooking appliances want instant gratification.

    Even those who are connected to the utility grid as their primary source of power could benifit in the long run from time of use metering. In times of low demand, the utility can charge a lower price. Some appliances (washer/dryer/dishwasher) can delay their electricity use until after the 3PM power crunch on a summer day (when everyones air conditioner is running). In a better designed house with thermal mass, the AC might run at night instead. Time Of Use metering already exists but is primarily used by people with grid tie solar systems and certain commercial users. If you have a house with photovoltaics, you are more likely to be aware of the savings. Paying an extra $1K to reduce the cost of your solar system from $30K to $25K is an obvious win. Of course, these would often be combined with other conservation features so you might pay $3K extra to save $10K. If you are connected to the utility grid, you are still paying the extra $5K to 10K (on power plant construction, operating, fuel costs, carbon emissions certificates, nuclear waste disposal costs, etc.), but the cost is spread over time and the cause/effect relationships are largely hidden from the consumer. And when oil shortages and global warming require us to shut down fossil fuel plants in favor of renewable energy plants, the capital costs passed on to consumers will get higher. Even if you use nuclear power instead of renewable energy power plants, it is cheaper and better for the environment to build 2 power plants and minimize peak load than build 4 plants.

    Some appliances can wait a certain amount of time for cheap power before resorting to using expensive power. So, they might wait until the sun is shining or the wind is blowing; whether you are off grid, using grid tie, or buying power from an electric company that has some renewable energy plants (that therfore need less storage capacity), the benefit is still there.

    Some appliances can potentially store energy cheaper than using regenerative fuel cells or batterie

  50. Same issue discussed by Cory Doctrow @ Microsoft by rbrander · · Score: 1

    I think it was slashdot that first referenced this speech Cory Doctrow gave to a Microsoft audience about DRM:

    http://www.craphound.com/msftdrm.txt

    Briefly, he urged that the digital-media market would go to the machine that 'plays everybody's records' - urged them to give up on hopeless DRM and indeed break everybody else's with their players.

    Wonderful set of anti-DRM arguments.

  51. So you don't like straight talk? by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    With OSS you get a straight, honest answer. It may not be the answer that you want, but you know where you are standing.

    With commercial companies you get marketing bullshit that tries to hype the pros while hiding the cons of a give product (that is their job, isn't it?).

    I know what is why I prefer, no matter how much "arcane" text commands I have to type.

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  52. Went paperless in '97 by Decker-Mage · · Score: 1
    I went paperless in 1997 and aside from network and systems configuratin information that may or may not be available when I walk up to a system, haven't gone back. That information is kept in a notebook thoughtfully provided by Veritas. New books are bought in the paper format but with the current, I won't call if flood but it is singnificant, release of various titles to electronic formats, I read books as much on my computers as I do in book format. My computer rests on a desk beside my bed so I can read at the desk or in bed.

    As for CD's/DVD's, they get exactly one play on my system and that's to image it to my hard drives where I watch them ever after using Daemon. I do own these discs, but I see no reason to wear them out each time I use them and that's true of every disc product. If that's a problem with the copyright holders, frag 'em. I'm already on my fourth set of Diablo II discs, that's enough money sent Blizzard's way, don'tcha think? Ditto the other copyright holders.

    As for the article, it'll take time for users to adjust to the new ways of doing things. It always does. I still wander the world setting the time in VCR's {chuckle}.

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