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TB-303 Give-Aways from Propellerheads and d-lusion

slashflood writes "Good news for those of you who are into music synthesizers: Propellerheads has opened its Rebirth Museum and gives away the 'revolutionary' software simulation of the classic Roland TB-303. Interestingly, that happened just a day after the small German company d-lusion released another 'legendary' TB-303 simulator called Rubberduck as a free give-away."

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  1. Re:Simulation? by soupforare · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The refill is mostly to appease registered Mac users who were expecting Rebirth to be ported to OSX.
    Rebirth itself has been released for free. Just register at the museum site and then go to downloads. There's a torrent, ffs, use that.

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  2. The pheads server melt, now they use torrents... by eshefer · · Score: 4, Informative

    propellerhead software originaly released the rebirth ISO as a download from thier site last week. the responce was much bigger then they anticipated and by saturday they pulled the software from the server, and replaced it with torrents..

    PC iso torrent:

    http://81.92.66.41/torrents/rebirth_iso_installati on.zip.torrent

    mac iso torrent:

    http://81.92.66.41/torrents/ReBirth%20RB-338%202.0 .img.zip.torrent

    gentelmen: start your squelchings

  3. Greatest user feedback comments ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    Wish more companies were brave enough to post user comments like these:

    User feedback was overwhelming, ranging from "the door-bending bass response makes rebirths 303 section sound like a touch tone device" to "fucking brilliant" and the most famous quote which says it all: "it is like fucking a hot hollywood bitch for the price of a corner crack slut".
    1. Re:Greatest user feedback comments ever! by drx · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I don't know ... back in the 90s shareware days i thought this was completely normal.

      Rubberduck was freaky underground software, i used it from versions on that looked like Windows3.1. It was the software to produce the cheapest and best sounding bass; as a bedroom producer you could finally laugh about the people that rent studios or spend huge money on gear and think that is half of the music already done. It started just then.

      Today even GNU stuff looks polished. I think this is boring. I want announcements like "KDE new release with bomb shit doorbending menus comin atcha like cleopatra" or "new version of gnumeric -- coded on bad LSD" or whatever ... but nowadays it is all about konquering the (business) desktop and adapting the same makes-me-yawn language as corporations. Takes some fun out of computing.

    2. Re:Greatest user feedback comments ever! by drx · · Score: 2, Funny

      There could still be cool templates in spreadsheets. Like how many hoes Snoop Dogg had calculated from his record sales.

  4. WRONG! mod perant down. by eshefer · · Score: 3, Informative

    the perant poster is wrong on OH so many levels...

    the meaning of the announcemnt is that propellerheads have discontinued rebirth developemnt sales and support, and now are giving it for free.

    the refill for reason is another differant thing entirly.. and it's not really free at all.. it's free if you paid 400$ for reason and registered..

  5. Re:WOOOOOOHOOO! Music stuff on /.! by DyslexicLegume · · Score: 5, Informative

    Semi-Offtopic, but there's a nice alternative to Fruity Loops for Linux users...still in Beta, but:
    http://lmms.sourceforge.net/

    It's pretty good.

    Anyways, I'll be sure to pick this one up.

  6. Propellerhead did not remove copy protection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Propellerhead made it free without having the sense to remove the copy protection. That's why you have to download a huge 500MB ISO instead of a 16MB application. The music gear website MusicThing has all the info on this.

  7. Discount upgrade to Reason 3.0 for ReBirth owners by Andy_R · · Score: 3, Informative

    If (like me) you own ReBirth, Propellerheads are offering massive discounts on upgrading/crossgrading any version (even the 8 year-old v1.0 that I had) to the latest Reason v3.0 - they even threw in a free ReBirth R.I.P. t-shirt because I was in the first 450!

    If you only want Reason, it's probably cheaper to search out an end-of-line ReBirth in your local music shop and then upgrade.

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  8. Correction by slashflood · · Score: 4, Informative

    They are called Propellerhead (without the trailing 's') and there is also a small note over at O'Reilly. d-lusion is considering to release the source code and maybe a Linux version. There is a discontinued open source project, called Reborn.

  9. ReBirth is awesome... Enjoy! by dzfoo · · Score: 5, Informative

    I bought ReBirth-338 a few years ago (1998 or 1999, I think) and was very impressed by it. It not only has a TB-303 emulator, it has two of them! Along with a TR-808 (w00t!) and a TR-909 (woo-hoo!!!) beat-boxes emulators, all in there.

    It also has a simple, yet effective, sequencer for all the synthesizers, a few effects (distortion, delay, compression), and a nice Pattern Controlled Filter. In short, everything you need for swooping, hypnotic, techno tracks, or classic Freestyle Electro!

    The first time I used it I was overwhelmed by the memories of DJ'ing back in the 80s.

    Propellerheads, thanx for the memory trip, and the very cool software!!

              -dZ.

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  10. Only The REAL Thing Counts... by Black-Man · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Please... no software simulation touches the real Roland TB-303. Anyone who believes otherwise is fooling themselves.

    1. Re:Only The REAL Thing Counts... by dzfoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      True, but since to most of us getting a real TB-303 or TR-808 box is out of reach, ReBirth offers a more than acceptable facsimile.

                -dZ.

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    2. Re:Only The REAL Thing Counts... by mr_angry · · Score: 2, Informative

      or the x0xb0x i think the site is down today but will mos tlikely be back online soon : www.ladyada.net/make/x0xb0x/ Otherwise a Future-Retro Revolution is supposed to be close to the 303 sound.

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    3. Re:Only The REAL Thing Counts... by Andy_R · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Speaking as a TB-303 owner, who spent quite a while a/b testing ReBirth, it does come remarkably close.

      I've been fooled from time to time, and I've had exactly that sort of 'you can tell it's real' comment from people who know I own the real thing, about tracks I've used purely ReBirth on.

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    4. Re:Only The REAL Thing Counts... by RexRhino · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, but there is musical innovation happening with guitars. People are constantly doing new things with guitars.

      Where as the 303 sound has totally stagnated. The 303 was remarkable because it was this cheap little synth that cats could buy for next to nothing and create sounds that the makers of the 303 never intended. It was part of the whole philosophy of black urban youth taking this discarded technology and turning into something remarkable, a kind of metaphor for discarded Urban areas like Detroit and Chicago that spawned Techno and House music respectivly.

      But now the 303 isn't a cheap synth for underground producers... it is an expensive synth for collectors that creates a sound that stopped being innovative ten years ago. It is not the instrument that the Juan Atkins or Derek May of the 21st century is going to use, it is for pretensious wankers... it is like collecting a Stratovarius.

    5. Re:Only The REAL Thing Counts... by slim · · Score: 2, Interesting


      Yes, but there is musical innovation happening with guitars. People are constantly doing new things with guitars.

      Where as the 303 sound has totally stagnated.


      The 303 is totally capable of making sounds other than the cliched "303 sound"; indeed I suspect that the 303 designers never expected users to turn the resonance up quite so high, to use the upper pitch range so much, to make those frequency sweeps, etc.

      Remember the "TB" stands for "The Bass": they expected it to be used as a stand-in for a bass player. However, it just so happens to turn out that if you don't know what you're doing and you fiddle with a 303, you get stuff that approaches the "303 sound", and if you do know what you're doing you can make it sound very nice indeed (if still cliched) in no time at all.

      But that doesn't mean people aren't using it (or its emulators) in innovative ways today. If you use a 303 in an innovative way, it won't have *that* sound, and most of us probably wouldn't recognise it as a 303.

      Then again, *that* sound is cropping up in places you wouldn't expect it, which is in itself innovation.

      "I Like You" from Morrissey's "You Are the Quarry" is an uptempo Smiths-y guitar driven song with a 303 twittering away halfway up the mix to fill up the sound and make it a bit more modern.

      Super Furry Animals never cease to innovate, but they make frequent use off 303 (or similar noises). Try the current single "Lazer Beam" (from "Love Kraft").

  11. Re:Shitty Techno HOOOOOOOO by eshefer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    yeah the mods are definetly a cool aspect of the program, some of them are frickin amazing. my favorite (and actually the reason I actually got the software) was the Pitch Black mod that came with the software. who needs those pesky 808 and 909s..

    the mod aspect of rebirth is probably the best (and only) good use of skinning that I've encountered over the years (or have a recollection of now) - unlike most other skinnable software that are only eyecandy and add nothing to the software - the "skins" rebirth have actually added real value to the software.

  12. Wasn't there an open source 808 emulator shut down by t0qer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    somewhere? I can't recall exactly when, maybe 3-4 years ago, but I seem to recall another open source 808 emulator being shut down by propellerheads and then pulled from sourceforge for being "too close" in UI design to rebirth.

    Not that it isn't a good thing propellerheads is doing by giving it away for free, but shutting down open source projects (this was even mentioned on slash) is a bad thing for everyone in the long run. How about releasing your source propellerheads? Re-birth is about as old as Quake3, if Id can do it, so can you.

    Anyways, end rant.

  13. time to get out your magnifying glasses by GoatPigSheep · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wait until you see what a program hard wired to 800 x 600 looks like on your 23 inch dell lcd...

    Still the program was quite revolutionary back in the day...

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  14. Re:RubberDuck still have bundled spyware? by slashflood · · Score: 4, Informative

    Last time i checked out rubberduck is came bundled with adware / spyware... Does it still come with this?

    There has never been spyware in Rubberduck and the "ad technology" has been removed in the free download version.

  15. Re:Wasn't there an open source 808 emulator shut d by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes, Reborn. Wonder if this will affect the status of this project that Propellerheads shut down.

  16. x0xb0x kit synthesizer by morcheeba · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you want to build your own hardware TB-303 clone (and plus some), check out Ladyada's open-source x0b0x kit. (cached). The documentation is excellent, even for a beginner builder. And, they've gone and painstakingly measured all the transistors from an original TB-303 to accurately recreate the sound. It's a steal at $300.

  17. Re:Is it too much to ask - by eshefer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "is it too much to ask that closed source, Windows-only software be labelled as such in the story?"

    Thats a good point.

    (and the mac version is MacOS9)

    "but is slashdot going to put every piece of Windows-only closed source freeware on the front page?"

    rebirth in the electronic music scene is somewhat akeen to Doom in the gaming scene - this perticular software had an enormous effect both from a user interface and technological aspect on the shape of the computer virtual instrument sceene that developped.

    "In theory, this kind of software could enable a hundred Vince Clarkes - in practice I don't see any. Any suggestions?"

    develop ReClark. that might work.

  18. Re:Is it too much to ask - by cornface · · Score: 4, Funny

    When the technology was rare and expensive, it was used to create awesome catchy, melodic, intelligent pop (80's). Now that it's cheap and ubiquitous, it's used to make depressingly boring, repetitive, deeply lazy music.

    Go to hell you elitist twat.

    Should we ban paintbrushes because someone other than Picasso or Michelangelo might pick one up and paint something that offends your exquisitely developed taste. How about pens? Should we get rid of those too, just in case someone draws something you don't like? While we're getting rid of the instruments, you probably should go to guitar center and burn the cheap guitars and keyboards....why, any idiot with fingers might be tempted to pick one up and learn to hammer out something that isn't...80's pop???

    Hey, about we lock up the computers too so brainless numbskulls can't engage in self-congratulatory forum masturbation.

    Hand over the keyboard, douche.

    Thanks.

  19. Re:Wasn't there an open source 808 emulator shut d by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    There was reborn http://www.deadvirgins.org.uk/reborn/index.html which was already pretty good in 2001 and an awesome linux audio app but propellorheads killed it because the ui was too similar to rebirth.

    Given that they were copying the TB-303 808 and 909 interfaces I dont see how they could own the concept of putting them on a computer screen but there you go, like they say in TFA:

    "The spirit of sharing was a vital part of the ReBirth Community. People who shared ideas, who offered their expertise, and who contributed music, inspired others to do the same in an ongoing cycle of creativity."

    NOT!

  20. Re:WOOOOOOHOOO! Music stuff on /.! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Damn straight. You'd think we'd see heaps more music technology articles on here given both music and tech are traditionally "nerdy" pursuits. I'd love to hear more about the latest synthesis stuff, cool effects, home recording without talking about Apple etc. Let's petition for a dedicated music section! :-)

  21. Random Data Bandwidth Waste by _aa_ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Check out this post from musicthing.

    "The app installer itself is only 16 MB, ReBirth uses a copy protection scheme which involves a 128 MB data file on the CD. It's actually a nonsense file that contains just random data, but ReBirth won't boot without it. The rest of the CD isn't really necessary, but includes a Mac partition (which has roughly the same files including another instance of the 128 MB data file), and lastly there are 3 audio tracks that showcase ReBirth if you put it in a CD player."

  22. Re:Shitty Techno HOOOOOOOO by Jesus_666 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Okay, normally I wouldn't have cared about this, but the SIDstation mod had me sold. For that I even gave them one of my e-mail addesses and told them that my post code was 31337.

    There just ain't nothing like the sound of a MOS Technologies SID.

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  23. Demo Songs by Retrospecter · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you download Rebirth and want to hear what it can do, listen to "A Taste of Haste" in the demo songs folder (because I wrote it and therefore it is good).

  24. And to you sir I say... by squidsoup · · Score: 2, Funny

    Bloop Scwahump Wah Wah WEEEEEEEE

  25. Re:Is it too much to ask - by Nick+of+NSTime · · Score: 2, Insightful
    In theory, this kind of software could enable a hundred Vince Clarkes - in practice I don't see any. Any suggestions?

    Vince Clarke is who he is because he's Vince Clarke, not because he has the equipment. My friend Jabwai makes music using Reason. He is signed by a few techno-oriented labels and performs regularly here in Dallas. Maybe you should give his stuff a listen and decide if he's "Vince Clarke-enabled."

  26. Re:Is it too much to ask - by lisaparratt · · Score: 3, Funny

    When you're up to your eye balls in MDMA, what you call depressingly boring, repetitive, deeply lazy music just happens to be the best music in existance.

    This is why it's so popular!

  27. Re:Wasn't there an open source 808 emulator shut d by tagew · · Score: 3, Informative

    Speaking as an official Propellerhead _and_ a /. reader: The reason we acted on the reborn project (which wasn't open source I think - just a Linux product) wasn't that it was too close in UI design. It was because it was our UI - they used our graphics. We told them we didn't mind competition, but that they'd have to make their own UI instead of stealing our bitmaps. Apparently they didn't feel like doing that and blamed us for shutting them down, which we never did. /tage widsell propellerhead software

  28. Re:Did they release any CDs? by smallguy78 · · Score: 4, Funny

    it's just history repeating itself

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  29. Re:Wasn't there an open source 808 emulator shut d by eshefer · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Speaking as an official Propellerhead _and_ a /. reader: The reason we acted on the reborn project (which wasn't open source I think - just a Linux product) wasn't that it was too close in UI design. It was because it was our UI - they used our graphics. We told them we didn't mind competition, but that they'd have to make their own UI instead of stealing our bitmaps. Apparently they didn't feel like doing that and blamed us for shutting them down, which we never did. /tage widsell propellerhead software"

    this conversation from linux-audio-dev confirms this.