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Half-Terabyte Hard Drive Reviewed

EconolineCrush writes "The Tech Report has posted an in-depth review of Hitachi's half-terabyte Deskstar 7K500, the largest hard drive available on the market. The drive is compared with five of the latest drives from Maxtor, Seagate, and Western Digital, so the review serves as a good round-up of the fastest Serial ATA drives on the market. Performance testing is quite extensive, covering desktop applications, load times, file copy tests, multi-user workloads, disk-intensive multitasking, and even noise levels and power consumption."

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  1. full article mirror & comment by winkydink · · Score: 3, Informative

    here

    How does Joe Sixpack back up 500Gb? That's an awful lot of digital pics & videos.

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    1. Re:full article mirror & comment by pthisis · · Score: 2, Informative

      http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots /
      for one decent incremental backup solution.

      I find that having 1 drive live and one as backup works fine as long as the live drive isn't over 95% full, but most of my large content is pretty static--for me, there's a lot of churn (and backup size) in email/source code/etc, not much in music/videos/images, and the majority of the disk space is used by the latter.

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    2. Re:full article mirror & comment by robertjw · · Score: 2, Informative

      Has anyone heard of a untility which will burn folders to multiple CD/DVDs without having to split the folders and files by hand?

      Sure, I've used a utility called multicd

      Nero, EZ CD Creator, etc... can do it,but...

      Oh. Sounds like you are running on a Windows box. Sorry, can't help you.

    3. Re:full article mirror & comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've used a utility called multicd

      For Windows users, perhaps I could recommend a utility called multicd instead. Runs fine in Windows. I use it in Cygwin, but the only dependencies are perl and cdrtools (formerly cdrecord), both of which can also be used with MinGW.

      Oh. Sounds like you are running on a Windows box. Sorry, can't help you.

      Shame. It's a good thing I was able to help instead. :P

  2. Quality by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Informative

    And what's the quality of these drives. We're pretty much at the point now a days that we consider hard drives to be expendable. I usually have to replace a hard drive every five to six months, and often these are still under warranty. It seems the quality of manufacture is just the pits.

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    1. Re:Quality by ScrewMaster · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, they've always been expendable, that's why we feel the need to back them up. But how long a drive lasts in service depends upon how you use it. My server, for example, has four WD drives in a dual-mirror configuration with power-saving turned OFF (so the drives don't get constantly spun up and down) and the system has been running for several years without a single failure. The server itself is never powered down. The other big secret is ventilation. ALL my systems have drives in removable bays with front vents, so that air is drawn over the drives at all times. It doesn't take much air flow to cool a modern drive (mine run barely above room temperature) but it makes a big difference in longevity.

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  3. crashes firefox by crabpeople · · Score: 3, Informative
    anyone elses firefox on windows crash on that article? i was clicking next and the 3rd page crashed my browser!

    now all the pages do it!

    someone doesnt want me to get 500gb drives

    someone, from the govt...

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    1. Re:crashes firefox by Zathrus · · Score: 2, Informative
      Yes, TechReport often crashes Firefox because of the flash ads. Having Flashblock will not help, even if you whitelist the site.

      Here's the bug (note, you can't link directly, so copy and paste, etc.): https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22855 7

      This bug is listed under "known problems" on the Flashblock Extension site.

      I've emailed the TechReport guys about this and here's the reply I received:


      Thanks for the note. This is a known problem with Firefox and the FlashBlock
      extension. We are aware of the issue, but I'm afraid there's very little we
      can do to fix a problem with a client browser. If I could adjust our HTML
      to make things work, I would, but that doesn't appear to be possible.

      I recommend uninstalling Firefox and doing a clean install without
      Flashblock. From that I hear, that should fix the problem.

      Best of luck,
      Scott


      I believe the bug is fixed in Deer Park, as well as in Mozilla trunk.

      Sadly, because of this, I often avoid the site because I don't want to take the random chance that it will crash all my FF windows/tabs. One of my favorite tech sites too.
  4. Re:another review posted on slashdot earlier by theskeptic · · Score: 4, Informative

    for the same hard disk.

    Hitachi's 500GB SATA-II Reviewed. An odd dupe.

  5. Jumping to conclusions... by op12 · · Score: 3, Informative

    To make a long article short (sort of):

    Conclusions

    As the only 500GB hard drive currently available on the market, the Deskstar 7K500 is really without peers. Its closest competition is 100GB behind, and some manufacturers are stuck with drives in the 300GB range. Exclusivity carries a price, though. With a $320 street price, the 7K500 has a higher cost per GB than lower capacity drives. However, the 7K500's higher density can be worth the premium for systems where storage capacity is limited by available internal drive bays, Serial ATA ports, or both. Those seeking quieter systems should also prefer higher density drives, since the additive properties of noise levels make packing a system with multiple drives less desirable.

    And remember, the Deskstar 7K500 is more than just 500GB of storage capacity. It also has everything one should expect from a high-end drive, including support for 300MB/s Serial ATA transfer rates and Native Command Queuing, a hefty 16MB cache, and a three-year warranty. None of those features go above and beyond the call of duty, but they don't disappoint, either. Neither does the 7K500's performance, for the most part. The Deskstar scores well in desktop application benchmarks and file copy tests, but slow boot times and a poor showing in three of four IOMeter test patterns make it difficult to recommend the drive across the board.

    Poor performance with IOMeter's file server, workstation, and database access patterns suggests that the Deskstar is inappropriate for multi-user environments with heavy read and write demands. However, the drive's surprisingly strong showing in the read-dominated web server test pattern shows that the 7K500 can most certainly keep up in select server environments. And there's no doubt that the 7K500 can keep up on the desktop, at least once you get the system booted. That makes it easy to recommend the Deskstar to storage-hungry desktop and home theater PC users looking to add capacity one half-terabyte at a time.

  6. Re:How many floppies do I need to back this beast by zbuffered · · Score: 2, Informative

    347,223 1.44mb floppies, assuming they're all filled 100% (except for the last one, which is filled 2/9ths of the way)

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  7. Where do I need to store1/2 a terabyte of data... by Gopal.V · · Score: 3, Informative
    Let me take a wild guess - in my mysql database ?.
    Poor performance with IOMeter's file server, workstation, and database access patterns suggests that the Deskstar is inappropriate for multi-user environments with heavy read and write demands.
    Which excludes this as a DB backing store or CVS server ?.

    I don't need a 500 GB disk for serving static webpages, which are best done with enough RAM to push them all or something like akamai. It's noisy while it's idle and draws power like a hungry hog. I expect that it needs a decent bit of cooling too.

    Lastly this is a 7,2000 RPM disk that costs 320 odd dollars. What do you think ?.
  8. Poor warranty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative


    I stopped using Hitachi drives because Hitachi insists that you must ship the original drive to them first, before they send you a replacement. This is extremely inconvenient if you, say, have a HD that generally works but has a clicking noise from time to time and you have a lot of data on it.

    My advice - Go with Western Digital, it's a getter drive AND a better warranty.

  9. Re:Come onnn class action by njm · · Score: 2, Informative

    Eh, the ordering of the SI prefixes is actually kibi-, mebi-, tebi-, etc. See here for more such nonsense. I, for one, find the new prefixes horribly unpronounceable, and expect them never to take hold in colloquial usage, save for the nerdiest of nerds. That said, it would be nice for them to be used in print, since the ambiguity is annoying at times.

  10. Oh is it? by stlhawkeye · · Score: 1, Informative
    "Hitachi's half-terabyte Deskstar 7K500, the largest hard drive available on the market.

    1 TB

    2 TB

    And far superior quality. WHAT YOU SAY? They're not "on the market" yet? Yeah, that's true.

    This one is 800 GB, and it's available.

    WHAT YOU SAY? It's not a "hard drive" but an ethernet disk?

    Oh. Well you got me there.

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    1. Re:Oh is it? by wandazulu · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes...as one who bought a 500gb "big disk" I had two major failures, one in warranty, and the other out. When I called them up, Lacie wouldn't even talk to me, even for $$$. It's not even raid 0 ... they have some propietary logic that fills one disk first and then the next, but are striped in some way that prevents the disk from being put into the machine and used (or else I could have gotten my data off).

      I will never ever buy another lacie product again.

  11. Cost per gigabyte is too high by 55555+Manbabies! · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hitach 7K500 - $357 - .71 cents per gigabyte
    Western Digital WD2500KS (250 GB, comparable specs) - $122 - .49 cents per gigabyte

  12. Check your power quality by bigtallmofo · · Score: 4, Informative

    I usually have to replace a hard drive every five to six months

    The culprit might not be shoddy manufacturing but rather power problems within your house. I am not an electrician but when I had one at my house recently he told me my line voltage was 105 volts. In my area, it's supposed to be 120 volts. In researching it, I discovered that most power companies guarantee 113 to 127 volts of power. Going outside of this range leads to premature failure of components and appliances, especially ones that have motors in them (like hard drives).

    Again, I'm not an electrician and I'm sure someone will find something to correct me on but I was informed that when your voltage is too low, things like motors draw more current to compensate which makes them fail sooner.

    It's worth checking with a $19 voltage meter, anyway, especially considering the fix is a free phone call to your power company for a free fix.

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    1. Re:Check your power quality by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's why you should use a UPS, even if you don't care about your computers going off during a power outage.

  13. Re:Nifty? by John_Sauter · · Score: 2, Informative
    Its great to see a drive thats not actually half a terrabyte (because 1024/2 = 512 != 500)....
    Actually, if the photograph in the article is accurate, it is just over half a terrabyte. The label on the drive claims it has 976,733,168 blocks. At 512 bytes per block that's 500,087,382,016 bytes.
            John Sauter (J_Sauter@Empire.Net)
  14. Re:Just so you know by freidog · · Score: 5, Informative

    While Hitachi did by IBM's HDD wing, we need to be clear.
    The actual "DeathStar" drives were a very select line. IBM tried to put 5 platters into their high capacity 75GXP line, the norm is 4 for 3.5'' disks.
    These lead to excessive head crashed (I've heard up to around 30% of the drives met their death this way).

    Even before IBM sold the HDD buisness they had gone back to a 4 platter design which effectivley elminated the 'death' part of the deathstar line.

    If you like to boycott them based on passed wrongs, that's fine and your call. (Ther are brands I avoid to this day because of past buiness practices). But there are no quality / reliability issues with any of the current Hitachi hard drives.

  15. Re:I'd say "normal." by Detritus · · Score: 3, Informative
    A friend used to collect bad drives. He took the printed circuit boards from the crashed drives and installed them on drives with fried electronics. This only works if you can get a bunch of bad drives that are the same make and model.

    If you have the tools and skills, you can replace platters, motors, etc. You can do it without a clean room if your goal is data recovery, not a drive that will last for years.

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