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Refugee Radio Station Blocked by Red Tape
Zathrus writes "According to a Wired story, a volunteer organized low power FM radio station is being blocked by local administration and red tape. They've already won the classically big battles -- securing FCC licenses, obtaining the broadcast equipment and radios, getting the manpower, and having some big name backing -- only to be blocked at the last minute by some lower level administrators who don't think information is a worthwhile resource." From the article: "According to KAMP, Royal claimed the Astrodome was not able to provide power to KAMP's low-power FM transmitter. When KAMP offered to bring in enough batteries to power the equipment off the Astrodome's grid, they were still denied. Obey, speaking to Wired News, explained that the JIC couldn't see a use for the radio station when they had the ability to communicate via the loudspeaker system and newsletters. "
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I'm wondering whether this has something to do with the fact that loudspeaker announcements and newsletters can be controlled by the officials in charge of the Astrodome, wheras a volunteer-run radio station can't.
I understand the need for the Red Cross and other shelter organizers to promote a good atmosphere (well, as good as possible), but sheesh, I fail to see the harm done by a microtransmitter.
I am of the opinion that, overall, the American Red Cross is well organized and operated (I'm speaking with over six years of experience with EMS, SAR and Disaster Relief here). However, I have to sigh at the bureaucracy and lack of "out-of-the-box" thinking that sometimes crops up when I'm volunteering with them.
From the Villiage Voice:
"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell
You know, it looks like the entire disaster operation is being run on the premise that it's very, very important that minor officials be allowed to be officious.
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it is really sad when people organize and work hard to help their fellow man, just to be stopped by bureaucracy. Obey should be helping the cause and not trying to put the kabosh on it. Maybe this why you don't see more people going out on a limb, because they think it will just get shot down?
I eat Karma for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. That's why I don't have any.
C'mon these guys make NPR look like Fox News. How about a little balance?
"I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey
Wars, Depressions and Natural Disasters always bring out the Fascists. They gravitate to any venue where they can make the case that control triumphs freedom.
This is absurd, what year is this again? Newsletters and loudspeakers to distribute safety information but no radio? Need to inform thousands of people of imminent danger, please wait while we print newsletters and distribute them one at a time to inform people of the matter. Failure to use technology to properly distribute information is one of the many reasons this disaster occured in the first place. Lets just repeat that mistake again.
The first priority of damage control for the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina is not to save lives. It's to mask blame. Not that there isn't blame to go around - but the talking points going around are built to make all blame seem equal. To make it seem like any one of the politicians involved in this disaster had the same ability to help save people, and Republican politicians who did not help did nothing wrong compared to everyone else.
Having a radio stations where people affected could speak their minds openly, or even potentially openly would hurt this damage control.
Ryan Fenton
Communists used to ban BBC in our country that way :) I guess the history is repeating itself in different context :)
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They might question why their federal government failed them so badly in so many different ways.
Let's not forget the apalling incompetence of the state and local governments while we're at it. 500 busses, fueled and under water. No food or water stockpiled, no medical supplies, or doctors at the superdome. Way to go, Mr. Mayor.
I do hope that the people in the Astrodome are free to leave. They are in great danger of being turned into some bureaucrat's meal ticket for years to come.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Why do they have to be stationed in the Astrodome? I'm sure the authorities in charge don't want to be responsible for the cable runs out to their tower.
They can just put their equipment into a van and broadcast from the parking lot like regular pirate radio. They can still do interviews within the dome using portable radios and cell phones.
I am becoming gerund, destroyer of verbs.
If you lose control over information, you could lose control over the mass of people. I'm sure what they're worried about is the radio station broadcasting anything that's no in line with the message that the officials want heard. It's sad to imagine that our government has become more like China in this whole matter, caring more about saving face, and keeping the serfs in line than actually providing assistance.
AccountKiller
As someone directly involved with this effort (as a member of the Amateur Radio Emergency Service), I can assure my fellow slashdotters that this is simply not an issue, much less worthy of a slashdot story. Although this sounds like a great idea on the surface, I can understand where the JIC or for that matter the Incident Commander would chose to deny this request.
What is not apparent to anyone outside Reliant City (as the astrodomain is now being called) is that it is utter CHAOS in there. It's not that the guests are anything but orderly, that the volunteers are anything but helpful, or that the involved agencies dont care, but there just isnt time for the responsible parties to even think very hard about it. Keep in mind that this is a gargantuan effort on the part of almost everybody involved - every agency I've come in contact with has expressed amazement at the vastness of the task and the speed with which it is being accomplished. And by now they are all pretty much exhausted. Sunday there were 25,000 guests on the ground - today it's far less than half of that. Meeting immediate needs is pretty much all that they can do. I alone have worked over 40 hours on this event since last wednesday, in addition to my regular full-time job.
It would certainly be wonderful if the guests were being entertained, or even efficiently informed. And when I first heard about this effort I thought it was a great idea. But providing a communications channel without professional guidance as to content and application could just as easily cause more harm then good. After the event there will be a great deal of effort to review procedures and decide what went right and what went wrong, and I really hope that this specific option is included in future plans. I think it is awesome that the organizers of this effort did so much, this option has a great deal of potential. But please dont assume that some "lower-level official" just decided to be mean or felt power-hungry - it is just as likley that they thought it was a good idea, but just didnt have the time to give it a chance or make sure it was done right.
Wayne Barker AD8A
Amateur Radio Emergency Service
Emergency Coordinator, SouthWest Harris County, Houston, TX
Why does this statement make my blood run cold?
I love how the White House and its supporters speak out of both sides of their mouth.
Don't play the blame game, but it's all the state and local governments' fault.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
So FEMA was constructed and put in place using the Presidency, the Congress, and under the watchful eye of the Judiciary.
They will be the final arbiters of what can and cannot happen in the dome. If you do not like it, you need to elect representatives who can change the system.
A rag-tag group of washed up hippies cannot be alowed to over-ride federal control or military control.
I'm sorry, but this is the harsh reality of life.
Everything is not about your pleasure.
It is about a chain of command.
Of course, Faux News is a media behemoth while Indymedia and the Village Voice preach only to the choir. Left wing media my ass, corporate media and invisible fringe, that's all there is. Freedom of the press only applies if you own a big enough press.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
George Bush had been trying to get the local government to declare a need for federal assistance.
You might want to check Snopes before you try to repeat urban legends as fact, lest we think you're a part of the current administration (who all seem to be so media illiterate that they probably can't spell snopes let alone look up to see if their information is accurate before spreading it).
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
If there are important things to say that the refugees need to hear over the radio, why not get one of the dozens of existing radio stations in the area to broadcast it. If your message is really that crucial, it shouldn't be a problem finding someone to play it.
I think you're missing the point of a micro broadcast radio station. Is a local station that serves the needs of the entire Houston area going to broadcast a message like "lunch of the day for the astrodome is cheeseburgers" If you really think that, you're just naive. This isn't about broadcasting ultra-important messages to everyone, it's about keeping people informed about the resources available to them, giving them something to do, etc.
This is just a bunch of geeks that got told, "No, your idea won't actually help anyone", so they went and complained to
Very true, but that doesn't diminish the fact that it WILL help people. This isn't some wild crazy techno geek idea of giving out free Wi-Fi internet access to people that don't have laptops or computers in the first place. Radios are dirt cheap, and anyone that has a few dollars can buy a portable one. They're cheap enough that someone could buy a thousand of them and distribute them to everyone in the Astrodome.
AccountKiller
Um, come on, guys.
You want a radio station catering to the evacuees run by people who literally believe things like the Bush administration is not only responsible for the poor response[1], but is actually responsible for the hurricane itself? Or who would invite those who believe the levees were blown up by the government as a plot to remove all of the black people from New Orleans so the rich whites could take it over? (After all, they needed more room!)
Yeah, that'll really help the situation!
Bullshit. In an emergency housing situation, the infrastructure at the facility, the facility-wide loudspeaker system, and newsletters/handouts/flyers are *more* than enough to disseminate information. We don't need a bunch of self-righteous radicals inciting people who already believe the government wanted to kill them.
In an alternate reality where this station was allowed, run with the agenda that Houston IndyMedia and Village Voice certainly has, many evacuees would no doubt be incited, and the authorities would *still* be blamed for "not getting them out of temporary housing fast enough" or "not responding to their needs fast enough", even though Texas and Houston have gone completely out of their way to assist in any way possible.
I guess a lot of people can and do look a gift horse in the mouth.
[1] As an aside, someone said in other post "look at the difference between 9/11 and NOLA...rich white financial district, and help was there within 5 minutes", etc. Um, hello? Who responded to 9/11 in NYC itself? Local authorities. Who *didn't* respond in a satisfactory fashion in NOLA? The same. Oh, wait, let me guess: it's not a state and local municipal responsibility, it was somehow magically a federal one? Just sent thousands of people to a fucking convention center and football stadium with NO PLAN whatever, save "waiting for the feds"? Yeah, real smart, folks.
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Is there additional requirements to broadcasting non-royalty free music? If I do decide to broadcast music then how much do I pay and to whom? I would LOVE to learn more about this.
Saying Java is nice because it works on all OS's is like saying that anal sex is nice because it works on all genders.
Who's "facts" do you believe?
Well, let's see the options. A well known website that debunks or supports urban ledgends based on sound research, or "news" programs well known for actually buying stories from the government. I think I'll take the first.
I heard on a news broadcast that GWB was trying to get the local officials to declare a need for federal aid.
And if you check snopes, that urban legend has been debunked. Yes, the administration itself has been trying to put forth that image to make a very bad excuse for not showing up sooner- and yes, elsewhere on Snopes you'll actually find support for such things as underwater buses and other mistakes made by local officials- but the point is to try to tell the truth, otherwise you do more harm to your side than is needed. And repeating stuff you heard on a single news program with no colaberation for the story? That's just drinking the kool aid without checking it for poison first.
And you don't care to comment on the other parts of my post?
No, because the other parts of your post were mere logical extensions of a fact that did not exist to begin with, and thus were invalid by extension.
The actual meat of the comment?
The actual meat of the comment seemed to be that local officials needed to call for federal aid before federal aid would be offered. The link to snopes in my message shows the real timeline that was recorded- and that it was actually 3 days between the local officials asking for a mandatory evacuation, declaring a state of emergency, and formally asking for federal help, all of which were done BEFORE the hurricane hit; and the federal government actually responding at all. It was an additional 2 days before NBC broke the news in an interview to the head of FEMA that there were people in the convention center- something that the entire rest of the country knew the entire time.
I'm sorry- the basic excuse of "but we couldn't go in until the local governments asked us to" falls completely flat on it's face- and that is obvious from the Snopes article on the subject that I linked to.
Like I said the first time- next time check snopes before you repeat urban legends you heard on the "news".
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
The mayor of New York called almost immediately for federal aid.
Yeah, but the Gov. of LA called for aid before the disaster. There is no way the mayor of New York called for federal aid before that disaster! Check the date of her memo. Asking for Federal Aid the day before the disaster is not enough time? Please explain your illogic.
Also Washington sat on a request for New Mexico's national guard to help out in LA: So why do you think it is not GW and the fed's fault?
Check out the date on this picture of our "wonderful" leader. (answer: 1 day after the huricane hit)
And don't get me started on the crony he picked to lead FEMA. If you pick someone you know is incompetent to fill a role, then you are to blame when their incompetence leads to lives lost.
They're cheap enough that someone could buy a thousand of them and distribute them to everyone in the Astrodome.
Indeed, they had already arranged a donation of 10,000 radios, so that there would be plenty for all.
Very true, but that doesn't diminish the fact that it WILL help people.
Indeed. A psychiatrist was mentioning somewhere that one of the worst things for people who have been through disasters is to sit around with nothing to do and nothing but the disaster to think about. For people developing PTSD, it can intensify and lengthen their problems.
And there's a lot to be said for community-building and morale. Heck, just the music alone would help. Imagine you're on a long road trip and the radio breaks. How sad would you be? And now imagine somebody else is driving, you don't know where you're going, and you're not sure when you'll get there.
What I want to know is, why don't they just use low power AM? You need *NO* license at all to do low-power AM broadcasting, and your signal should be strong enough to cover the 'Dome no sweat.
DRM 'manages access' in the same way that a prison 'manages freedom'
A "refugee" is someone who is fleeing persecution from other people. Who are the "refugees" of which you speak and why did they go to the hurricane-damaged area seeking asylum?
If you meant victims of the natural disaster hurricane, that's another word entirely.
Bottom line, "normal" societial issues in the damaged area will be suspended until things are under control. That's the way it has always been and the only way thing work. These "volunteers" want to place braodcasting equipment in a damaged building from which they will broadcast whatever they want to people in the damaged area? How incredibly selfish of them. They would not only increase physical security issues for their equipment, as noted above, they'd bring confusion to the people and create more things for the authorities to try to watch. What absolute guarantees are there that these folks wouldn't broadcast erroneous information? This is not a time for civics 101, it's a time for survival.
If these people truely wanted to help, they'd offer themselves and their services are actual volunteers, not prima donnas who want a competing power during emergency times.
The part where it contradicts the National Response Plan. By the time you get to the second page it talks about "proactive" Federal responses to rare, mass-casualty events.
>George Bush had been trying to get the local government to declare a need for federal assistance.
I can't find a cite for this offhand but I did read that Governor Bianco (yes, she has a name, even if she is a Democrat) requested Federal troops on August 26 and a Federal state of emergency on August 27.
>If you don't know what the fuck you're talking about just keep your damn partisan bullshit to yourself!
Well, we can agree on that point.
cooperating criminal cartels that have hijacked governments all over. No place in any constitution does it give total control of government to two political parties, but it sure as heck is set up that way now. They play act as being opposites in public, in private they just divvy up the spoils and run government as a fatcat easy jobs program service. Wouldn't bother me at all if an asteroid hit inside the beltway.
And to any people still voting for either of those gangs--why? Really, why? How many clues do you really need to see the system is so far corrupt that it is a total disaster? How many generations will it take to bingo to the fact that it's gone to despotism and incompetence? Isn't that a rather stupid and dangerous combination to keep supporting? How many 2 and 4 year voting cycles do you need to go through before you notice that NOTHING CHANGES? And working for them, "following orders"?? Double why? Don't you have any sense of deceny left, is a paycheck all that important? You can't be part of those gangs without compromising yourself, no matter how well intentioned or honest you might personally be, the system and your bosses are crooks, liars, thieves, murderers and general scumbags. And that is when they are being nice.
Get a real honest job, they are still out there. The system will not change as long as people support it. That is reality.
freedom of the press.
freedom of speech.
these american citizens have every right to set up their own radio station.
... hi bingo
Let's not be so hasty: "FEMA can trace its beginnings to the Congressional Act of 1803. This act, generally considered the first piece of disaster legislation, provided assistance to a New Hampshire town following an extensive fire. In the century that followed, ad hoc legislation was passed more than 100 times in response to hurricanes, earthquakes, floods and other natural disasters." http://www.fema.gov/about/history.shtm
Expressing disagreement with the notion that the solution to all the nation's problems is tax cuts for the wealthy. Ask ex-Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill.
She's asking for federal assistance which is exactly what i said.
Who cares about michigan? What about the federal ok on the New Mexico guardsmen you ignored?
This is a better story for some of the reasons behind the delays. Best quote of the article: "Nobody told me that I had to request that,
Yeah, she is talking about ACTIVE duty military troops. The pentagon was saying that wednesday and thursday they were hesitant to send active duty troops in the area for law enforcement purposes. In the same article "While combat troops can conduct relief missions without the legal authority of the Insurrection Act, Pentagon and military officials say that no active-duty forces could have been sent into the chaos of New Orleans on Wednesday or Thursday without confronting law-and-order challenges."
Wednesday and thursday is a little freaking late.
Also, are you telling me that the Administration didn't tell her that they won't send troops until she asked? You think they were waiting silently for her to say the magic words without letting her know what the magic words were?
Here is the rest of the quote you convienently left out: In an interview, she acknowledged that she did not specify what sorts of soldiers. "Nobody told me that I had to request that," Ms. Blanco said. "I thought that I had requested everything they had. We were living in a war zone by then."
Yeah, if i wanted to be an asshole i'd quote head of FEMA Brown when he said "Paula, the federal government did not even know about the Convention Center people until today (sept 1st)."
Right after Paula Zahn asks him "ZAHN: Sir, you aren't just telling me you just learned that the folks at the Convention Center didn't have food and water until today, are you? You had no idea they were completely cut off?"
But i won't do that, because maybe that miscommunication that makes Brown look like an ass isn't his fault? It's hard to believe but maybe it's not.
The problem isn't that they have been 'evacuated', the problem is, in fact, they have been left without a place to live, and must take refuge elsewhere.
If their problem was being evacuees, we could just put them back and solve their problem. Evacuees are just people who have exited somewhere because they were forced to.
Evacuees were what the people were who drove out were before the city was flooded. When they could not return, or after they got evacuated after staying in the city, they became refugees, people who were left without a home, money, or possessions because of some outside force.
And refugees only had negative connotations if you were an asshole anyway. Maybe instead of worrying about what these refugees are called, people should stop thinking 'refugees' are bad.
Let's not blithely let people get away with the concept that 'refugees==bad'.
If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?
Low-level administrators are usually fearful of saying YES to anything that they can't control. I don't think you have to look for a more elaborate motive than that. It just seems to go with the personality type, which I refer to as "hall monitors." They are good at carrying out decisions made by higher-ups, but when asked to authorize something on their own initiative their default response is NO.