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Next Generation is reporting on the World Cyber games, which enter their final leg between the 16th and 20th of September. The U.S. teams have been finalized after the last round of national competitions in New York over the weekend. From the article: "The spectator excitement combined with a high level of competition this past weekend here in New York signals that the era of e-Sports is beginning to mature here in the US, as it already has elsewhere in the world. We have always been the biggest tournament in the world, and it is here that pro-gamers get their start. We are now seeing the kinds of corporate sponsorships necessary to back these players so they can train and compete at the highest level worldwide." Five bucks OGRE 1 and OGRE 2 for the Halo 2 win.

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  1. And who sees this sponsorship? by Godeke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We are now seeing the kinds of corporate sponsorships necessary to back these players so they can train and compete at the highest level worldwide


    But there the kind of public interest that makes such sponsorships worthwhile? Obviously sponsors of the contests get great visibility with an important customer base. The lack of coverage these events suffer from (except in South Korea) seems to preclude any real marketing impact for individual competitors, except perhaps using first place winner's endorsement in conventional advertising saying.

    People sponsor racecars because even if the car isn't first, if it is in the race people see the primary sponsorship. Of course when they teams win, they use that fact in conventional advertising as well, but small time racers can be sponsored by small companies in local circuits exactly because that visibility of sponsorship can affect people in the exact community where the business is.

    Small time game players are not seen in local events that are accessible to the public at large. Large events like these only can attract large companies as sponsors, which would seem to indicate a lot of the players will go without such sponsorships. Not that sponsorships are as necessary as they are in auto racing...
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    1. Re:And who sees this sponsorship? by Godeke · · Score: 1

      s/But there/But where/
      s/saying.//

      I hate why I cut and paste the wrong edit version.

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    2. Re:And who sees this sponsorship? by Idealius · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's not hard to imagine future online gaming tournaments which are televised or streamed and the participants have sponsor logos on their game character's skin.

      And I know many a gaming clan who was sponsored by a local business. I'm not sure WHY, but I know of them within my online circles.

    3. Re:And who sees this sponsorship? by moonbender · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And I know many a gaming clan who was sponsored by a local business. I'm not sure WHY, but I know of them within my online circles.

      I imagine it's often because one of the guys in the clan owns the business or is in some other way affiliated...

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    4. Re:And who sees this sponsorship? by fwice · · Score: 2, Interesting

      At least in the counter-strike, the sponsorship is seen pretty prominently.

      When watching the game over HLTV (which lets you pretty much watch the game as its being played, through player pov and omniscient views), you see player names. If the clan/team is sponsored, they try to make this pretty known through their clan tag. IE, in one tournament in the past, Team 3D (sponsored by NVidia) used the ingame tag "3D.NVidia Kim", making it known that NVidia played a prominent role.

      Additionally, I haven't been on gamesnet/gamesurge lately, but in the past, teams with a sponsorship would readily display that info through their IRC channel. "TEAM 123, Sponsored by JOERANDOM(www.joerandom.com)." With 40,000 people on the network, if your team was large enough, you could definately have sizeable traffic just coming from people double-clicking the url.

      Finally, let's not doubt the traffic of fanboys. Take a look at Team3D's website here. There are tons of kids posting / viewing the site who are young & maleable. No doubt, they want to be like their 'idols' and use the same equipment, which is no doubt NVidia / Intel (Team 3D's sponsors).

      Hope that clears things up. It is a lucrative market, and one that's just starting to be addressed.

    5. Re:And who sees this sponsorship? by faloi · · Score: 1

      Who sees it?

      I think a lot of the people pay sponsorship money for the right to print "Used in the Cybergames!" on the packaging of their boxes. So now the average guy that walks into Best Buy to buy a mouse might gravitate toward the mondo mouse with twelve buttons and hardcore LEDs if he happens to be a gamer. And if the mouse is "used by the overall champions of the 2005 CyberGames!" that might be even more of a bonus. Sure, the mouse won't make the ultimate difference in Joe (or Jane) Doe's gameplaying, but if they're already going to spend money on a product they might go for the one used by the best.

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  2. Well done Zonk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WCG Finals are in November, not Septemeber; would appreciate it if the editors at least checked their own articles.

  3. Thank God by franc0ph0bic · · Score: 0

    Wow finally something from the esports scene has been slashdotted :) Howabout the CPL Winter event too

  4. stupid by Gogo0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just to throw this out there, and I am sure many people agree and disagree, but I think this is just stupid.

    How long until there are televised Madden games?

    1. Re:stupid by Rancidlunchmeat · · Score: 1

      I can't believe they haven't already had televised Madden games! Hell, it would give G4TV something else to broadcast during its continual 4 hours worth of actual programming loop.

    2. Re:stupid by vertinox · · Score: 1

      How long until there are televised Madden games?

      I dunno, but it sure would save the franchises from paying out million dollar contracts to players.

      But seriously... I see this like I see the rest of professional sports... Not that really big of a deal. It's basically men (or women) moving a ball across of field to a certain point under a ruleset. Not that big of a deal and I don't really understands why people want to watch it rather than go out and do it themselves.

      Of course thats why I enjoy playing video games instead of watching someone play because I'll be jumping up and down screaming "NO NO NO!! Pick up the Redeemer! It's right there you fool!!!"

      But I think some people really enjoy the passive part of the medium and often I will enjoy watching friends play a game while cheering them on and giving them adivce. Although sometimes they would rather I would not...

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    3. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then they're going to start televising the game based on players playing madden.

    4. Re:stupid by Idealius · · Score: 2, Informative

      Some would say watching REAL american football is stupid, too.

      There's plenty of guys who would consider professional online tournaments right up there with the Superbowl (or beyond.)

      The only problem is they can't tell anyone about it :P

      But, seriously the core appeal behind these types of competitions (man vs his peers) is universal regardless if it takes place in a real or virtual world.

      I am very active in online gaming. If one finds a game where people don't cheat and each contestant has an equal shot of winning, it can become addicting, fast. It's not the question "Who's a better clicker?" but "Who's a better man" that people get addicted to. Don't laugh, because, after all, if the playing field is level for all competitors then one could view the game cancels itself out and all that's left is what each competitor decides to do.

      I'm not saying I agree with this mentality, it's just natural for competition and it breeds human interest. ..And it should probably be exploited.

      I remain unentertained while watching football on TV because I never played, yet I can watch televised Basketball and be fully entertained. This is probably because basketball is a sport I played competitively. This is most likely the same reason why you aren't interested in online gaming tournaments. Try playing one of the games these online competitors do, and actually try to win instead of playing like it's your leisure time. Then, watch a demo of one of the professional players playing. Try not to be impressed.

      It's not a question of "if" online competition will become serious in the U.S., it's a question of "when".

      Online gaming competitions might never be mainstream to the level of football, but then neither is chess and it's a competitive game that has been around for thousands of years.

      On a sidenote an interesting thing about Online gaming is the gamer maintains the stance of someone who might play chess (sitting down) but the tactics are generally much more organic like football or tennis.

    5. Re:stupid by some+guy+on+slashdot · · Score: 1

      The most annoying thing about the Madden games is how they go to great lengths to make them sound as obnoxious as a real football game. Seriously, why would you go to great lengths to recreate the sound of the least audially appealing thing on television? You can't tell me you enjoy that constant buzzing in your ear.

    6. Re:stupid by Gogo0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is probably because basketball is a sport I played competitively. This is most likely the same reason why you aren't interested in online gaming tournaments. Try playing one of the games these online competitors do, and actually try to win instead of playing like it's your leisure time. Then, watch a demo of one of the professional players playing. Try not to be impressed.

      Well actually, I was on top-ten teams throughout the life of Starsiege: Tribes and Tribes 2. I know the adrenaline one gets during a close game, and the spent feeling after a good match. I just dont find it to be a real sport. I admit that may be a totally illogical thing to say, especially since I cannot back it up with more than "I think it is stupid", but I think it is like Fear Factor. It is pure entertainment and many find it to be great. I dont, I think it is stupid.

    7. Re:stupid by Saige · · Score: 1

      Of course thats why I enjoy playing video games instead of watching someone play because I'll be jumping up and down screaming "NO NO NO!! Pick up the Redeemer! It's right there you fool!!!"

      People enjoy watching professional sports, even when they play those sports themselves, because it can be enjoyable to watch the sport played at a skill level that most people can never even hope to attain. You won't see a Michael Jordan on your local basketball court, or a Sammy Sosa in your recreational softball league.

      I've watched some video games played at a skill level above mine, and when you know the game decently, it can be quite exciting - and even more so when you know the people playing. I'd never seen Ghost Recon 2, but I watched a friend's team playing at a tournament at PAX, and did find it quite enjoyable to watch. And I have videos on my computer here at work of Halo matches from some of the best players - and it's exciting, and even educational in some ways to notice the differences between how I play and how they do.

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    8. Re:stupid by grumbel · · Score: 1

      ### How long until there are televised Madden games?

      Over here in germany we have a tv show sending four hours a week exclusivly about eSports, havn't seen Madden there, but plenty of Fifa, Pro Evolution Soccer and all those other games.

  5. Retarded List Of Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Halo 2?

    What kind of joke is that?

    1. Re:Retarded List Of Games by ckolnik · · Score: 1

      Obviously, you have never played Halo 2. I agree that it has its pros and cons, but it is one of the best online FPS ever. It is definately odd that someone can be considered a professional Halo 2 player. I would take them on any day of the week, and probably give them a nice 'corpse hump'.

    2. Re:Retarded List Of Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "but it is one of the best online FPS ever"

      Uhh...no. Halo and Halo players are pathetic jokes in the fps world. They are like the Kenny Gs of Jazz...

      There has to be MS money involved to get crap like Halo on the list.

      Lame.

    3. Re:Retarded List Of Games by houseofzeus · · Score: 1, Insightful

      "...but it is one of the best online FPS ever." It's also obviously the only FPS you've ever played...

    4. Re:Retarded List Of Games by Cabewse · · Score: 1

      And you probably play Quake 3 on Linux, and define that as your "best fps ever". (nothing wrong with that. I'm posting from my Debian Sarge machine :P) Must have somthing with the MS = teh evil.

      Halo 2 is insanley fun to play, and designes well for console multiplayer playing. I'd like to know your reasoning as to why it's crap.

    5. Re:Retarded List Of Games by PaganRitual · · Score: 1

      thanks for the laughs. im in tears.

    6. Re:Retarded List Of Games by superpulpsicle · · Score: 1

      Halo is no better than Unreal Tournament 2004 which was released months ahead. UT have vehicles, larger server size, more modes, faster pace.

      I also feel the peek times of RTCW and Wolfenstein Enemy Territory put Halo community to shame. More clan activities, more players, some of the best teamwork I have ever seen in online gaming period.

    7. Re:Retarded List Of Games by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Hello? Halo 1 was out long before UT2004 was. I remember all the complaints about "copying Halo" when vehicles were announced as an addition to UT2004.

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    8. Re:Retarded List Of Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get a clue clown.

      Copying Halo? Copying Tribes...

      WTF is it with the xbox idiots?

    9. Re:Retarded List Of Games by cassidyc · · Score: 1

      and it's probably one that you've never played.

    10. Re:Retarded List Of Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      These guys are all right, Halo is a joke in the FPS world. You're really just embarassing yourself by defending it. Playing an FPS without a mouse (or trackball) is just stupid.

    11. Re:Retarded List Of Games by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      The complains were mostly about the Scorpion, which looks a bit like the Warthog.

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    12. Re:Retarded List Of Games by Chi+Hsuan+Men · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't you mean a Puma?

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    13. Re:Retarded List Of Games by Cabewse · · Score: 1

      Why that didn't get modded as funny is beyond me.

      /3

    14. Re:Retarded List Of Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not that i care about halo, but is a mouse + keyboard vs a joystick the best argument you can come up with? who cares what the interface is?

    15. Re:Retarded List Of Games by houseofzeus · · Score: 1

      I have played it, unfortunately it offers nothing over at least 5 FPS games that came before it that I can think of and has been bettered by even more since. Halo is the pinacle of FPS gaming? Yeah right, get a clue.

    16. Re:Retarded List Of Games by mink · · Score: 1

      Chupathingy?

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  6. Is there a Liandri Corporation around? by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 2, Funny

    When I read this:

    We are now seeing the kinds of corporate sponsorships necessary to back these players so they can train and compete at the highest level worldwide.

    ...the only thing that came to mind is the introduction to the original Unreal Tournament: "The Liandri Corporation quickly found deathmatch to be its most profitable enterprise" or something to that effect. I didn't know whether to be amused or terrified. I guess that as long as I don't hear "You fight like Nali!" when I'm walking down the road I should just be amused.

    (That's called "humor", mods. Look it up.)

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  7. Never before by lupinstel · · Score: 0

    Never before has there been a finer line between what some consider elite, and others consider losers.

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  8. Sponsorships ? what return? by CuriousForge · · Score: 1

    eSport/pro-gaming is not very mainstream in US nor in most of the world. A sponsorship of a top team in Korea is as valuable as sposnoring a top sports team. The events and teams have extremely good coverage in the press and the events themselves are often very well attended by supporters of the various teams. Sponsorships of individuals and teams in Korea are big money deals. Koreans look at esport on the same level many americans look at things such as College football. In the US, there is no real coverage of the events outside of the esport scene itself. Most mainstream media use the esport stories as a kind of "news of the wierd". I am not sure where most corporate sponsors are seeing a return on there investment. Every pro team proposal from the US I have ever seen has been practicaly empty regarding real marketing value (except for a few really well organized teams like 3D). I recently saw that Tylenol is now sponsoring a team that they have named "Ouch!". It makes no sense.

  9. I rocked at Starcraft/Warcraft 3 by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 1

    I shoulda went over to Korea with Starcraft as I rocked it worldclass. The problem with WCG is that you can only compete once a year at San Francisco. I think a real tournament system would involve 50+ games a year with rankings over time, and internet collaboratory. Us gamers typically pick video gaming because its cheap.

    1. Re:I rocked at Starcraft/Warcraft 3 by Shakesphere · · Score: 1

      For the love of God, how many times must we hear how great you are at that stupid game, Jim? I swear, half your posts are about how you were some kind of freaking prodigy at Warcraft. The other half of your posts are about how you wish you could find a job. Here's an idea (maybe you can guess where I'm going with this): Spend more time looking for work and less time boasting about your bloody Warcraft expertise.

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  10. Shouldn't the title of the post be... by SkyWalk423 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "America's Gaming 1337"?