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Dell Launches Flash Music Player

desert island writes "Dell launched a new flash-memory digital music player, named DJ Ditty, to compete with the iPod Shuffle. Both devices are $99 and come equipped with 512 megabytes of memory. The biggest difference between the devices is the Ditty's 1-inch LCD display screen, which helps users navigate their music lists. In addition, the Ditty can receive FM radio and sport a rechargeable lithium polymer battery that can provide up to 14 hours of continuous play."

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  1. Watch out for Puff Daddy by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1. "DJ Ditty" is a stupid name, and likely to get them sued by P. Ditty. (This is the same guy who threatened legal action against "Puffy" forcing them to change their name to "Puffy Ami Yumi.")

    2. 512MB, FM Radio, 1 inch LCD screen... That sounds awefully familiar... You don't think Dell would just be rebranding and pretending they did all this great and competitive R&D, do you?

    Nah. That wouldn't sound like Dell. (Which is to say, that sounds EXACTLY like Dell.) :-P

    1. Re:Watch out for Puff Daddy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      fyi its P. Diddy

    2. Re:Watch out for Puff Daddy by DrEldarion · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's one thing to say that most people don't use the radio, but most people don't use the LCD? Are you mad? Maybe back in the 64MB days, no, but once you get 100+ songs on a device, the LCD becomes more and more useful. Would you rather hit "next" a possible 100 times to find a certain song you want to listen to, or just navigate to it real quick on the LCD? What if you want a couple different playlists? Only want to hear a certain artist?

      Going from a CD-based MP3 player with no name display to a Dell DJ was night and day. Even with 20 times the amount of music, I get FAR less frustrated trying to find what I want to listen to. Yay LCD.

    3. Re:Watch out for Puff Daddy by JargonScott · · Score: 4, Funny

      Correct. The P. Diddy version just plays your music while injecting the following audio:

      ..Uuh..
      ..Uh huh..Yeah

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  2. Rhymes With Ditty by The+Lyrics+Guy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    (taken w/o permission from Daring Fireball)

    Rhymes With Ditty
    Wednesday, 21 September 2005

    See news item that Dell had released a new flash-memory-based music player to compete against the iPod Shuffle: the Dell DJ Ditty.

    Note that no picture of said Ditty accompanies news item.

    Visit dell.com.

    Note that no picture of said Ditty appears on front page of dell.com, even after several reloads to cycle through random promotional images.

    Search for "ditty" in text of front page of dell.com.

    Note that "ditty" is not found.

    Begin to suspect that even Dell is not very proud of this device.

    Visit apple.com.

    Note prominent and primary emphasis on luscious product porn of new iPod Nano.

    Hop back to dell.com and search for "Ditty" in site-wide search box.

    Note vague resemblance to a 50-cent Bic lighter:

    Note footnote attached to claim in "Product Highlights" that the Ditty can pack 220 songs into 512 MB of memory, roughly twice the songs Apple claims can fit on a 512 MB iPod Shuffle.

    Follow footnote to see explanation that this storage estimate requires encoding songs as 64 kbps WMA, which bit rate is half that of Apple's default of 128 kbps AAC, and roughly equivalent in fidelity to that of transmissions carried over tin cans and string, but which, perhaps, is not a dirty marketing trick, but, rather, a fair assessment, considering that anyone with such profoundly bad taste in industrial design who would consider purchasing this device probably also has such bad taste in music as not to notice that their 64 kbps-compressed songs sound like mush.

    Sit back and recall, with tremendously smug satisfaction, a decade's worth of tech industry punditry holding that superior design would never get Apple anywhere, and that Apple should instead, you know, be more like Dell.

  3. Pictures of the Lighter... err... MP3 Player by DoorFrame · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since the linked story doesn't have pictures of the MP3 player in question, here's the official page from Dell. Enjoy.

  4. Link to product by KingSkippus · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you're going to post an article about a new product, it might be helpful to post a link to the product. I kind of like being able to see pictures of what the article's about...

  5. iPod tie in by jurt1235 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Funny how the pc-pro with &%#%& advertisement over the text in Firefox, said that the AAC/mp3 format of the ipod is a tie in and this way suggesting that WMA is not a tie in. Very funny.

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  6. radio! by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Interesting

    hallelujah! a radio!

    now i would actually buy one of these things

    why the heck the iPod doesn't have a radio is completely beyond my understanding

    i would never buy an iPod simply because of that incredible oversight

    50 cents of circuitry=massive improvement in usefulness... do a cost-benefit analysis

    i simply cannot fathom why any player would not have a radio... what, it's peripheral to the player's purpose? you mean playing music?

    and PLEASE, none of the bs about radio being dead... radio is NOT dead

    if you get one pop station in the middle of nowhere, that is NOT an argument against the inclusion of radio for those of us who live in major cities and have a lot more channel options

    seems like a no-brainer to me, it's so little added cost for such great benefit, and yet getting a radio on a player seems like such a struggle... i don't understand that

    are you listening apple? it's a deal breaker for me, and plenty of other people, to not include a radio

    good move dell!

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    1. Re:radio! by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 5, Insightful
      why the heck the iPod doesn't have a radio is completely beyond my understanding

      Actually, I believe the iPod Shuffle hardware does have a radio, and a voice recorder, and a display driver. So, the better question is why did Apple choose not to expose them?

      The answer was given in an article whose location I don't remember, soon after the Shuffle came out. Apple could not think of a good interface that would fit on a display small enough for the Shuffle, nor could they think of a good interface for the radio and voice recorder. So, unlike most companies (and this is what makes Apple stuff generally better), they left out features rather than make a kitchen-sink player that would do everything, but do nothing well.

      The key to good design is often to leave things out.

    2. Re:radio! by dangitman · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Having that radio available is what lets most families get into their basements in time to be safe, especially when the power is out. If only for that reason, the radio circuitry should be included with any digital music device.

      Help, help! I'm being repressed. It's just not right that every electronic device ever made doesn't have a radio built into it. It is the responsibility of any random electronic gadget to save my life, in the event of a disaster!! Help!

      Truly, the terrorists have already won, if people are so freaked out that they think having a radio in a device is the difference between life and death. If you are worried about disasters, surely you would buy a decent AM radio (with greater range than FM) rather than rely on a few cheap, miniaturized chips in a device not designed to be a radio or emergency tool?

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  7. One other advantage for the Dell Device by MBraynard · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Cheaper and more accessble music (legal/'evil-DRM' music, anyway, if you are into that thing.)

    Both the Napster and Yahoo have unlimited music access for these players. I think Real might also make music available that way. I have used both Napster and Yahoo (with Yahoo now because it's cheaper and I like the attitude of the developers).

    You can also find per-song costs to BUY for only $0.79 on Yahoo. Walmart's are $0.88.

    The unlimited subscription and cheaper music prices are _not_ available on ITunes. Yahoo/Real/WalMart/ETC are competing with each other to give you a reason to go with them - once you buy an Ipod you are locked into Itunes and Itunes alone.

  8. Incredible! by zecg · · Score: 3, Funny

    Who ever came with that idiotic name? It should have been named Dell P14YZ0R!

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  9. Dell is trying to do a google. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    People say "I'll google it up!" when they want to search for something on the net.

    They'll say "It's so Dell!" when talking about something so ugly that people can use it to scare kids.

    -xype

  10. Why no radio by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 3, Informative
    I expect they would put it in there if it didn't significantly increase the size of the product and such. Probably not enough of their users care - I don't. Keep complaining and maybe you'll get what you want.

    It'll probably never be in the nano though, that thing's pushing it as it is on size.

  11. Advertising? by AAeyers · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They also aren't advertising for it. In a similar article, they disucss Dell's marketing scheme for this product.

    "Dell has launched a digital music player dubbed the DJ Ditty in what it calls its first "word-of-mouth" promotional campaign. The vendor announced the player in the US only with a banner on its website, and stated that it is getting the word out through employees and customer focus groups. Dell has also launched a special multimedia site targeting young buyers. The announcement was so low-key that a UK spokeswoman was unaware of the launch. "We don't get US announcements but I wouldn't be surprised if it were available here soon," she said."

    This might have been a viable competitor with the iPod Shuffle, but only if people know about it.

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  12. From the AmIMissingSomething Department by Amadodd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There are lots of similar players on the market. Why is this one better/more newsworthy? It does not even look cool.

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  13. Word of Mouf.... by xgadflyx · · Score: 4, Funny
    That's the marketing campaign Dell is using on this soon to be failure. And here it is 3 days later...spreading like wildfire I tell ya! Even their own sales reps were unaware.
    "The announcement was so low-key that a Dell UK spokeswoman was unaware of the launch."
    http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2142664/dell-lau nches-music-player
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  14. Wow! Talk about redefining fugly by brokeninside · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's one .mp3 player that everyone I know who has an iPod would never buy. Dell needs to find some designers that know how to make things look good.

  15. The player is only half the answer... by b06r011 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    so Dell have launched a player which is basically the same as an iPod suhffle. The question is, will it automatically put in a selection of songs when i connect it to my PC?

    As far as i am concerned, the iTunes software is one of the key reasons Apple have done so well. It's easy & effective, whereas I suspect Dell is not. But then I guess we knew that right?

  16. New Name by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 3, Funny

    DJ Ditty changed its name to "Ditty" to avoid confusing its fans. At a recent product launch, some people were chanting "DJ Ditty!" and some people were chanting "Ditty!" and it threw everything off. This way, everybody can just chant "Ditty!" and be on the same page.

  17. Your friend is half right by brokeninside · · Score: 3, Informative

    iPods can be put into one of two modes: player mode and storage mode.

    In storage mode, it becomes an external hard drive. Music files copied to the iPod in storage mode cannot be played when the iPod is put into player mode. Unless, that is, one uploads one of the many third party pieces of software that allows you to do just this.

    In player mode, one does have to use something akin to iTunes to transfer files. But that something does not have to be iTunes. There are many third part programs that will suffice. This is how iPods can be used with Linux, which doesn't have iTunes available.

    So, out of the box, your friend is correct. But one can easily fix the problem by installing third party tools.

  18. Not rebranded by everphilski · · Score: 3, Informative

    Dell's offering

    As you'll notice its a little longer thinner (depth) and not as wide. I doubt the Zen Nano was packing extra space inside just for the heck of it. Dell also has a 5 band equalizer compared to the Zen's 4 band.

    So the conspiracy theorists can go back in their holes now :P

    -everphilski-

  19. Suffle sounds best.. by slashkitty · · Score: 3, Informative

    This article analyses and explains why the shuffle sounds the best of all major mp3 players: Shuffles Secret

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  20. You underestimate the role or image and iTunes. by grandmofftarkin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And what about software on the PC side. Shuffle's iTunes integration will no doubt kick the crap out of anything Dell can bundle together. Also the fact that it can play iTunes downloaded songs. I don't think you have appreciated how important these two things are!

    Also what REALLY matters is brand and image. People think Apple and even the Shuffle looks cool. So cool they even were the thing on their arm or around their neck.

    Nobody wants that ugly thing from Dell, especially with the Dell logo so visable. Can you imagine anyone with that around their neck. It looks like a lighter. The only people who would have it around their neck will be young boys who like like geeks and nerds (and hence were even aware of the extra features). The 'oh so cool' people will stick with the shuffle and will act free advertizing to everyone else.

    Mark my words, this player will rapidly die. After a few news articles like this, nobody will ever talk about it again. I honestly don't think it stands a chance against the Shuffle.

  21. Re:Good design - was Re:radio! by dr.badass · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No joke. It is pure hype that makes people think the Ipod is well designed.

    You don't know anything about design. Maybe you've been walking around acting like you do, but you don't. Your friends like you too much to stop you when you start talking out of your ass. They cringe inwardly, but they just smile and nod outwardly. I'm here to relieve you of your delusion. You're welcome.

    The click wheel is a terrible interface. What, is there a little piece of string in there that connects the click wheel to the menus? The screen menus go up/down/in. Wheels go around. The metaphors just don't link up at all.

    And yet, dispite this, the vast majority of human beings are able to figure it out within a few seconds of picking it up. Just like they can figure out that a steering wheel goes left and right, or that a volume knob controls quiet and loud, they can discover that clockwise is down, counter-clockwise is up, and pushing in means 'in'. How do you explain this? Is it perhaps that people are able to understand new things that don't precisely align with what they knew before? Inflexible adherence to metaphors (precisely what you're suggesting is preferable) is one of the quickest ways to design a shitty interface.

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