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U.S. Insists On Keeping Control Of Internet
veggie boy writes "A U.S. official strongly objected to any notion of a U.N. body taking control of the domain servers that direct traffic on the Internet." From the article: "'We will not agree to the U.N. taking over the management of the Internet,' said Ambassador David Gross, the U.S. coordinator for international communications and information policy at the State Department. 'Some countries want that. We think that's unacceptable.' Many countries, particularly developing ones, have become increasingly concerned about the U.S. control, which stems from the country's role in creating the Internet as a Pentagon project and funding much of its early development."
We give you our name servers... Ok, what do you mean you can't find "google.com"? oh, because the french are running the server
If you don't like it..
.un TLD
GO BUILD YOUR OWN..
When it dies before it even gets off the ground, maybe we'll think of letting you have a
Sincerely,
Those who couldn't give a damn about a corrupt wanna be one world government.
Those a**holes should've controlled the A-bomb, not the internet.
Considering the UN's record on mismanagement (oil for food?) and spineless resolution after resolution against maddaS Hussein,
I don't fscking trust the UN or have ANY faith in them for anything. ANYTHING.
What do they REALLY want this for? So Kim Jong il can use his bomb bomb bombs?
I'm not completely sure why the above post is flamebait... Although he was a little coarse and naive, he is still technically correct. The internet is a DoD project, and contains an infrastructure that the American government relies on. Most people only see the "public/commercial" side of the internet, and never the side that deals with national defence. Giving the UN control over the internet would certainly not be wise in terms of national security. Lets say the UN got mad at the US one day, and turned off our access to the servers, we would be crippled, not to mention the making it easier for the rest of the world to access American secrets, that would not behove her to let out.
Whichever idiot modded my parent comment a troll needs to get a humour transplant. Sheesh.
Personally I think the internet is broke. back in the day the internet was free. Napster was legal. A dial-up connection got you anywhere. Email was important. I think the US did break it. Though, I believe the UN can do nothing to fix it.
- Your stupidity got you into this mess, why can't it get you out? -Will Rogers
It's ours, we made it, and we're keeping it, buzz the fsk off! Let some other country come up with a better idea and maybe they will be in a dominate posistion in 30 years (Well at least an idea not derived by stepping on their entire populations neck to get it done, like uber cheap manufacturing). I am glad I live in the U.S.
BTW, I am tired of people being down on American's because *gasp!* we are patriotic. I for one don't mind the U.S. staying top dog as long as possible. Don't like it? Move to China and see how much you like it (or India..or...) you get the point.
"If the USA doesn't like living in a world where there are multiple countries to deal with, they can just close their borders and shut down their trade. Noone will miss them."
It seems more likely that the world doesn't like living in a world where there people own the things they pay for and develop.
India didn't invent the internet. The U.S. did.
It is not the U.S.'s responsibility to give control of it to India or the U.N. just because they like it a lot.
We built it. We paid for it.
And we were rather generous letting the world into the system, don't you think?
Life is hard, and the world is cruel
Likewise, if they want to start giving out domain names, let them -- If cuba were to announce that they were hosting their own DNS service and giving out names with the .cuba extension, I'd make sure that my dns lookups went there for those addresses. If you build it, they will come.
If any country were to announce "We're setting up our own official server" the market -- in other words the REST OF THE WORLD could decide whether to patronize that server or not. Why bother with bitching about the "US control" when this is something that the rest of the world could actually DO something about.
The reality here is that some people just like to bitch. Although without a doubt my proposed solution would cause a lot of confict on the web about who is the authoritative server for what address, I'd rather let the viewers decide for themselves than let the authoritative servers be in the hands of some "authority."
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm
Enforse your DMCA laws on us by use of trade blackmail?
Are you upset because you can't download copies of your favorite songs for free? Or use copyrighted material any way you wish without permission from the author? Just checking...
Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
Exactly, plus I don't know why people think the UN is good idea anyway. It's one of the most corrupt governmental bodies in the world.
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Poppycock! So if the US paid the UN all the money it wanted and stopped voting on things the world would be a wonderful place with Libya running the Human Rights commission and dictators like Saddam would have nothing to fear as long as they made sure France and Russia were getting exclusive oil contracts.
Maybe you think the world would be a better place if it were run by the likes of China, Cuba and the former Soviet Union. Every intelligent person in the world would disagree with you. The US has been the only thing standing in the way of that.
Does your socialized education system actively brainwash you into believing the garbage you spew or do they just make sure you are stupid so you can absorb this crap from the other morons around you?
Mmmm.. Donuts
I also remember reading an article recently about how India's Air Force kicked our ass in joint training exercises.
Hahhaahahah. oh man. HAHAHAHAHA.
Katrina was the largest airlift is history, with tens of thousands rescued by airlift with no fatalities , one no-fatality helicopter crash. So listen there chummy, FUCK you, hard working men and women pulled 36 hour shifts only to have your fat body couch potato ass PO TA TOES ass fuck with those who did the needful.
Also, go visit India, you fuck. I've traveled the world over. I just got back from Moldova, you don't know shit. You don't know shit. I've been to Panaji India, you wouldn't last a fucking DAY.
And Air Force? No one else (NON-NATO since the USA pretty much arms up NATO) has anything comparable to AWACS. No JSTAR, no theatre control. So, while the USA has some of the best pilots (and even aerobatic squads that kick ass), the USA has BVR and theatre control that make the "dog fight" obsolete. Your anecdote IS A FUCKING LIE, liar! There is no such article. Note to you, mister know nothing, the Indians use Russian CRAP, sure is can fly and do the cobra maneuver, but US avionics will whip ass, imagine a flanker or a MIG-29 vs. a F-15E or F-22? TOASTY!
Sweden: 9 million people - makes cars, cell phone infrastructure, airplanes, nuclear power plants, etc.
USA: 280 million people - supports uncountable illegal aliens and oft grants them the same or more rights than citizens, makes airplanes, commercial airplanes, weapons of war saleable the world over see: F-16 which keeps the dirty foul CHICOMS out of Taiwan, cars, has many Japanese car companies OEM here, Mercedes, Honda in Ohio, NUMMI is Toyota/GM, US has a huge chemical and heavy industry, huge infrastructure. Pussy hippies prevent the building of nuclear power so coal-fire has to be used for the time being. Then the hippies bitch about pollution and foreign oil wars.
China and India: Billions and billions born - not served. Shit standard of living. No cars. No planes. Nothing but widget factories supervised by organized US and EU. Oppressive systems and shit cultures that do nothing but suppress and give rise to FUCKING ARROGANCE.
You fucking arrogant people! You wanna-be Chinese and Indians and other bleating shit-heads. Bring it fuckin on. USSR tipped over like the paper tiger it was. BRING IT THE FUCK ON. My kids are going to eat you alive in competition. You think this is the fat lazy dumb American you guys all think exists? Get ready for tread-marks on your fuckin backwards ass.
BRING IT THE FUCK ON, RoW, bring it on.
You know what the joke is? If the USA "loses," you get oppressive communism, Islam, lower standards of living and a future like Star Trek will never happen. So that is the fail safe trump card, if the Rest of World inundates and dismantles the USA and causes the American Dream to go away, the world will be thrown into Darkness just like the world was after the fall of Rome.
DIE mother fuckers, die!
This Insightful #5 remark (obviously voted there by Bush supporters), has got to be one of the stupidest most idiotic remarks I've ever seen on Slashdot.
.... but they did.
However, it is typical of the isolationist view the US has increasingly had over the last few years.
We didn't ask the US to exist, we didn't ask the US to invade IRAQ, we didn't ask the US to dump crap TV on us
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No it isn't. Can you build a house without a foundation?
My point is that the essence of the web was originally NOT American. Nor was it intended to be a privately owned medium. This is incontestable, and thus it is not a 'stupid point'.
I don't understand why so many Americans rabidly defend the ownership of something which is held by a dangerous organization, (the American Military Industrial Complex), which has NO INTEREST WHATSOEVER in your well-being. In fact, the MIC has quite the opposite desire. Just look at Louisiana for a working example. --Do you honestly think that the Bush Reich is not fully capable of mis-managing (at best), or out-right abusing their powers with regard to the internet?
"Made in America" doesn't mean "Made FOR Americans", so those of us living in the States might want to back off their rabid nationalistic stance for a moment with regard to this as it has the potential to be very self-destructive.
Now, I am certainly not suggesting that the UN is necessarily a better holding ground for the heart of the internet. What I would be happier seeing is a system of redundant DNS servers dotted all over the globe so that no single power can unilaterally shut down or censor the web.
-FL