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EU, UN to Wrestle Internet Control From US
Anonymous Coward writes "The Guardian is reporting that the EU, obviously unimpressed with the US's refusal to relinguish control of the Internet, will be forming several comittees and forums with a mind to forcibly remove control of the Internet from the United States." From the article: "Old allies in world politics, representatives from the UK and US sat just feet away from each other, but all looked straight ahead as Hendon explained the EU had decided to end the US government's unilateral control of the internet and put in place a new body that would now run this revolutionary communications medium. The issue of who should control the net had proved an extremely divisive issue, and for 11 days the world's governments traded blows. For the vast majority of people who use the internet, the only real concern is getting on it. But with the internet now essential to countries' basic infrastructure - Brazil relies on it for 90% of its tax collection - the question of who has control has become critical."
Hey EU you like this internet stuff so much, build you own.
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f-off moron yank. go wave your flag somewhere else...
America may be world policeman for now, but they don't own the world!
military might? haha. you can even put down a handful of
barefooted, rock throwing savages...
A bureaucratic organization will never steal the fruits of real American mind labor. Time for the United States of America to resign from the United Nations! It's been a long time coming.
I'm a US citizen, and a veteran, and I say the US should stop acting like a child ("Play my way, or I'll take my toys and go home") and act like a grown up. Just as the US wouldn't allow any other country unilateral control over a vital part of it's information systems, neither should any other country. The Bushies crybaby antics about the 'xxx' domain (among other things) was what brought this to a head. You better frickn' believe if I was Brazil, or the UK, or Russia, that I wouldn't want some damn christian fundamentalist controlling the kind of content I was allowed to access. The fact of the matter is if you are naive enought to think the 'xxx' domain was the end of the matter, you are sorely mistaken.
I support the EU, and the others out there who are fighting for a world-wide information system, not something that the fundies can shut down on a whim. Information needs to be free, and that includes the political whims of a single country.
Dave
"Why? Do you even know why the UN (& before them, the Legue of Nations) was created? Is this one those "The UN is a sign of the apocolypse!" crazy ideas that seem to be so prevalient right now?"
No, it's a "I'm tired of all the fuckups that have their root in the UN"
And, while I'm at burning karma: To the mods that modded me Troll: Fuck you and the horse you rode in on, My previous post was flamebait, not trolling.
-nB
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And who invented US in the first place? EUropeans did.
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The US always has paid for its own messes ... and eventually, for everyone else's.
Tell that to the families of the British, Australian, Italian, (insert non-US country of choice)... troops killed in Iraq, in wars started by the US over a situation created by decades of poor US foreign policy.
Ignorant and arrogant attitudes like yours are fast becoming the stereotype of America overseas. And people wonder why Americans are hated...
Better yet, would be interesting if the world put a 1 month boycott on the US. The world is a lot bigger than the US, and a large portion of the world would be more than happy to humble the US somewhat. Many of the arrogant people would be suprised me thinks.
"Thanks for all the money you paid to us. We've used it to buy off ISO among other things" -Microsoft
Please, people from other countries, not every American is as stupid as the guy above!
What's pissing off the other countries is that some politician they have no control over could cut them off from the root DNS and make their whole country difficult to access. That amounts to an incredible economic sanction. With the US stomping around in the Middle East, inventing WMDs as justification for invasion, and generally bullying people, that's a big concern.
Thank George Bush. His regime has pissed off the rest of the world so much that mortal enemies are enthusiastically agreeing on this. As long as the US was willing to run the root servers as a global public trust, nobody had a problem. But all kinds of countries are furious with the US politicization of AIDS, population control, public health, etc. Even US allies shudder at the thought that Dubya might do to the Internet what he's done to Iraq. Because they now depend upon it so much, they cannot allow such a threat.
Think of it this way, the entire world has decided to revolt against the Bush administration. Those saying they can't, remember what Sam Goldwyn said, "if the people want to stay away, there's nothing you can do to stop them"
Hey, Dumbass, who paid for all this? The U.S.! Those are schools in the U.S. that are subsidized by tax dollars. So, yeah, the U.S. should control it. BTW: The backbone at the time was part of the military. No backbone, now place to hone your new technologies. The EU and UN should piss off! Let them create their own closed networks then vai for a "trust" relationship to ours. Problem solved. This idea that there's a one-world government called the U.N. is horrifying. The U.N. is a front for corruption and a tolerator or terrorism. The EU is just trying to be relevant.
"It is neither; it is IP, TCP, UDP, DNS and so on."
Your answer is doubly wrong the protocol where not developped and invented in the US and are not the only thing needed for the internet or the WWW.
The US like to say they invented Liberty , made world peace and invented the net.
The US is a very new country , its liberty are a shame of what they used to be , you did not participate in WW1 you join the winner at the end , you did the same in WW2 , and the Internet certainly whas not invented by you.
BTW , Its ICANN , Proprietary company 95% manned controled and built in CANADA ( hence the ICANN and not USIDNS vs the UN , The US once again as false information and is looking at WMD where there are none.
Have a nice day.
I am a REAL American from Canada , not a wanna-be from the country , self called "last remaining superpower" "of America
Also as a side benefit, thousands of Americans and tens of thousands of Iraqis are dead, terrorists have firmly established an infrastructure, and the country is slipping towards civil war and disintegration.
But hey, don't let the facts spoil the party.
The "War on Terror" is a bullshit lie. Iraq has nothing to do with terrorism. Nothing. Ever. Everytime Cheney mentions "War and terror" in respect to Iraq, he is taking a shit on 1 World Trade Plaza and wiping his ass with the US flag. Iraq invasion plans existed prior to 9-11 and your government abused the attacks to engage in a highly profitable war that they would never of had public backing for without the fear propaganda.
All the US has done on the "War on Terror" is stoke the flames. Last week, the UKs largest terrorist groups gave up their arms. What did it take? Invasion? Regime change? Carpet bombing? Assasination of leaders. No, we met them at the debate table and sorted out their issues. After decades of unsuccessfully trying all the other options.
That's how adults deal with conflict. Children lash out...
"they do not fight for OUR interests, but rather THEIR OWN interests "
Nailed it on the head. That is exactly what extremist rightwing egotism is all about.
Americans for some reason seem to think the us and them attitude ends at the border. Neocons (objectivists, libetarians) would sell there mothers for a buck. They build alligiances on personal expedience and cronyism (e.g.Bush electing his personal lawyer for supreme court)-- not any sort of value system beyond their own personal interests.
What's hilarious about this is that they believe such reasoning is revelational when in reality it is the most basic of conscious instincts--old as man. The Marquis De Sade took this far further than their own weak reasoning permits.
We'd still live in caves if ancient men didn't sometimes put aside their basier instincts and attempt to work together for mutual benefit. Extreme rightwingers have never been known for being concerned with civil rights and fairness throughout America's history.
Wake up America.
Yea but unfortunatly they must have missed the fact that "George" knew that "Herb" was a a viscious killer that had killed many people. He knew that letting him get slide on just his word was stupid, BECAUSE GEORGE IS NOT A PUSSY LIKE MOST OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS STUPID CLUB. He is the guy in the club that doesn't really want to be in it, but stays in because he knows the damn club would fall apart without him, and he cares about those little guys. They might not agree on everything, but damnit, if he is needed he steps up and does what needs to be done. Some of the real pussies in the club wonder why big bad george hasn't had his dues card taken away yet. The smart ones know that it's not him that needs us, it's us that needs him.
The oil for palaces scandal isn't even cool yet and the UN thinks that it has some sort of moral voice?
As opposed to the credibility of a government that lied when it said there was proof of WMD? Credibility is in short supply all 'round it seems.
You have a point about Germany, however France as a country has existed for a lot longer than the US, irrespective of whether it had a constitution or not. Without France the US may not have existed but then you Yanks find it convenient to forget this just because they wouldn't kiss your ass over the unnecessary war in Iraq.
Does a Christian soccer team even need a goalkeeper?
Oh yeah...now I bet this won't take 5 minutes to get modded -1 flamebait.
Find a job you like and you will never work a day in your life.
thank god
Crisis is the rule, not the exception.
"in wars started by the British over a situation created by decades of poor foreign policy."
There I fixed your childish, ignorant mistake for you.
And if you're wonderingwhat I'm talking about, you don't know enough history.