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SUSE 10.0 OSS Released
O0o0Oblubb!O0o0O writes "Today, Novell released SuSE 10.0 OSS for download. Product highlights include kernel 2.6.13, gcc 4.0.2, glibc 2.3.5, improved boot times and Xen 3. Torrents are available for the i386, ppc and x86_64 versions. The downloadable OSS edition lacks some packages for licensing reasons of which some, like Java, can be installed via package repository."
With SUSE releasing one suite after another. I sometimes wonder about stability. When was 9.3 released? Wasn't it only a few months ago? I wish SUSE should find a way to follow Slackware's model of stable releases without sacrificing too much market share.
Also, the software is getting way to bloated. Why all the software packages SUSE?
I had been under the impression that SuSE had not had a ppc release in a while (since~7.2?). Glad to see they're back with it, it might just tempt me to migrate my apple-debian servers to SuSE ppc (I love SuSE's config tools).
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Damnit. I just received my SuSE 9.3 Professional DVD from Novell last week and it's already outdated. I can never seem to keep up to date on software these days. :(
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http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?re lease=421&slide=29&title=suse+linux+10.0+oss+beta+ 3+screenshots
Per subject. I've done testing at my place at work using the release candidate (we're interested in Xen3 on x86_64... once SLES10 comes out and it's fully supported, of course), and it wasn't exactly successful. It did give me a chance to file some bugs, and Novell reported one of them fixed in their bugtracker -- but I still was unable to start up a DomU.
Hopefully the release will be more effective. As for me, I'm playing with the 10.1 alpha, which I hear is what will eventually become SLES10.
I've seen it in smaller distros and I'd like to see it in bigger ones:
:).
Customized ISOs where you choose your packages THEN download the ISO.
Heck, if disk space is a problem these "ISOs" can even exist only virtually on the web server, with the "iso" being created on the fly from component files. Hmm, if there's not already a program out there to do that then I should get started writing one
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Seriously, is there any software out there that is like version 18? Well, I guess emacs is at 21....
Is there anything in particular that motivates the jump in major version, or is it just a marketing thing? I purchased 9.3 - will 10.0 bring me anything that is new and interesting, or just more recent packages of the same software? For example, exactly how is the faster boot process accomplished? Are there new configuration modules in Yast? New features in package managment? New freedesktop standards implemented, new LSB standards implemented.. what is really interesting about this release, what should make me jump to upgrade?
I have a friend who's had their Linux server running since the last blackout here, appx 10 months ago.
okay, okay... we all still have to test it. but this has good potential to become _the_ distribution. It performs we on both the server side with (with standards, service, licencing, training, certifying, oracle, etc. etc.), and on the desktop side (with loads of UI improvements, YaST, quicker booting, suspend to disk, automatic network configuring).
And it seems that also the doing well on both the corporate (Novell Desktop, SuSE entreprise) and the freesoftware side with this glorious new release.
i really whish OpenSuse the best, yet im not installing right now since 9.3 still does all i need and i have a lack of spare time already. but i will be soon!
if you are installing make shure to check out:
http://www.suseforums.net/ -- all things suse inlcuding community support, and
http://packman.links2linux.org/ -- the missing (some times not fully legal) mulitmedia packages.
g'luck,
Cies Breijs.
I believe that xen/x86_64 is work in progress (Xen FAQ). Give Novel some slack here ... The real question is how well Xen/Novel works on suse/ia32. I really like xen, the only problem is that it takes quite a while to setup right.
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This is the best news I've heard all day - I can't even get Xen 3.0 from Xen, so I guess they've thrown in TimeTravel 1.0 as well.
...frankly, with a name like that, I wouldn't be able to write much of anything.
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No disrespect to O0o0Oblubb!O0o0O, but when I first glimpsed the article I thought CowboyNeal was having a heart attack. ;p
Oh crap, I'm on fire again.
I was a on and off suse user from 7.0 to 8."something". Then I left windows and stuck with suse from 9.0 to the present. I love suse for a noob distro. I like the fact that if you want to not worry about the core workings you dont have to, or if you want to not worry but still be able to learn you can. I've gradualy learned to work in the terminal more, do alot of things in the command line, compiling my applications and even started programing my own little tools in c and c++.
I'm a whatever tool works use it kinda guy and the same applys for distros. It's good to see all linux distros being updated and offering newer and better linux experiences. It's a shame Microsoft already took the slogin "Where do you want to go today?" because thats what each new version of Suse makes me think.
Did anyone else notice other OSS software in the list that SuSE left out of the OSS version claiming that it is NOT OSS when in fact it is?
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I tried downloading the torrents from the ftp a while back and it was bogged. I have a copy of them, if their servers get bogged down again at http://johnny.chadda.se/2005/10/06/suse-100-finall y-released/
:)
By the way, I have tried the 10.0 RC1 and it was really great. The only thing not working is my P910i sync, but I'll work on that.
Many of them, I think, are missing because of their dependency on (non-open-source) Java, which is not included. (In other words, Eclipse itself is OSS, but since it relies of non-OSS Java, they leave it out too.)
I have no idea about the bitstream vera fonts, though - that makes no sense to me at all, since I was sure they were distributed as open source...
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"I'm glad to announce the final version (aka the Goldmaster) of SUSE Linux 10.0. Developing 10.0 as part of the openSUSE project with an open bugzilla was a new and great experience. Thanks a lot to everybody that contributed in testing, reporting and fixing bugs, discussions etc."
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I received my copy of SuSE 10 today but have yet to install it. One thing I noticed is that the source DVD is no longer included. Version 9.3 Professional included 5 CDs and 2 DVDs, one DVD containing the source code. Hopefully it won't require me to go to SuSE's FTP site, which has always been notoriously slow (hopefully some of the mirrors will have the source code).
As it is right now, I do not see the source code on their FTP site, nor do I see how they can fit everything for both the 32-bit and 64-bit and the source code on a single DVD unless they have cut back significantly on what's included.
The reason I'm looking for the source code is I want to see if they have added the Gentoo patch to Xorg to support the event interface for the mouse so I can take advantage of the extra buttons on my Logitech MX1000 mouse. I patched earlier versions of SuSE's X, but without the source I won't be able to do it with this version.
If I can apply this patch and if the kernel is more responsive on my Athlon64 I'll finally be able to switch my new desktop machine to my Athlon64. SuSE 9.3 tended to stutter at times when using the GUI. Also, hopefully some of the issues I've run into with V4L2 with my pcHDTV tuner card will also be addressed by the new kernel.
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As for Novell 'shouting out' about OpenSuSE, please keep in mind that Novell is a corporate entity doing business with other corporate entities and is much more likely to tout the products that it sells, thus generating revenue which can then support community projects like OpenSuSE. OpenSuSE is not a make or break for Novel, it is more a gesture towards the community and a thumb in the eye of RedHat/Fedora. I am more impressed with Novel's decision to continue offering a supported consumer version of SuSE rather than abandoning the consumer market like RedHat.
Version 18 is nothing. I've seen versions 95, 98... And they still had a lot of problems :)
There's a good resource here on how to install the packages that are missing from the OSS version:
Hacking OpenSuSE
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SuSE from 9.0 has had NTFS resizing. Even mounts your NTFS windows partition as
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TLMP has the torrents at:
u se/i386/10.0/iso/SUSE-10.0-EvalDVD-i386-GM.iso.tor rent
u se/i386/10.0/iso/SUSE-10.0-EvalDVD-x86_64-GM.iso.t orrent
http://www.tlm-project.org/public/distributions/s
and
http://www.tlm-project.org/public/distributions/s
Here is a guide for adding sources to Yast and installing proprietary applications (java, realplayer, codecs, dvd capabilities, acrobat reader...) : http://www.thejemreport.com/mambo/content/view/178 /42/
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