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No Region Codes for HD-DVD?

MBCook writes "According to Engadget something interesting has come out of the DVD Forum Conference 2005 in Japan. Here is the line from the post we've all been waiting for: 'But one statement from Toshiba Digital Media Networks' Hisashi Yamada was particularly intriguing: "We've gotten a variety of opinions about region controls. Even in the Steering Committee, they are extremely unpopular; we decided to not put them in. HD DVD probably won't contain any region playback controls."' Source: Japanese, English (via Google's Language Tools)."

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  1. Re:This is GREAT, but it's not that huge a deal by Threni · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Poor argument - it could easily be made (more) illegal, and hardware manufactures told not to add region-hacking codes in the firmware.

  2. The real reason... by dada21 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...is that they're not supplying region code "functionality" because region codes definitely have increased piracy as a whole. When someone in a given country can't get a DVD because its not available in their market yet, they'll more likely just download the movie.

    Region coding worked fine before information traveled so fast and so easily. You'll also see European release dates much closer to the U.S. release dates for the same reason -- if the movie isn't in theatres in your market, just download a bootleg and see it first.

    Here again is another proof that information not only wants to be free, it wants to be available to everyone at the same time.

    1. Re:The real reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      It always annoys me when people anthropomorphize information. Information doesn't want shit.

    2. Re:The real reason... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 5, Funny

      Information wants to be anthropomorphized! :-)

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  3. About region codes by El+Cabri · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've always found it interesting how region coding was giving an advantage to Hollywood movies. Everything out of Hollywood, even the least interesting tripe, gets released in other region codes than north America, notably in the Europe/Japan zone (2). On the other hand, only a relatively few movies from Europe and Japan get an "American release" on Zone 1 DVDs. Hence the zoning works as a one-way filter and keeps American consumers from most foreign movies.

    The theater release date argument toward zoning is not good because more and more of the most anticipated movies have worldwide release, and also because then why would zoning apply to old classics and other pre-dvd era movies that are still to be released ?

  4. Re:Whoa. by Yocto+Yotta · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That's probably the collective HD-DVD camp's line of thinking. Then when the standard gain's mass-movement, region lock-in gets slipped back into the standard because of newly founded "concerns" from the content producers. All the pros (of course, aside from the very real cost-, and very arguable format structure- benefit)that the format has going for it suddenly disappear.

    Let's hear it for marketing! Yay!

    And now again for speculative opinion! Yay!

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  5. You know? by taskforce · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I think we've been conned. When BluRay and HDDVD were first compared, we were shown the capacities and speeds. BluRay was hugely superior. Now we've been told about BDROM's DRM which doesn't even allow streaming of content, and that HDDVD doesn't have any region codes and requires (albeit DRM'd) ripping to PC, which is at least better than the current DVD format. I have always supported BDROM becuase of the superior capacity etc, but over the past week taking into account the developments which have come to light I'm starting to seriously rethink which side I'm taking.

    Obviously, it could just be a case of HDDVD seeing how unpopular they are and making some changes to their strategy late in the day to get some support which they wouldn't have done if we hadn't originally shunned them.

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  6. Re:This is GREAT, but it's not that huge a deal by MMaestro · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Also, most of us can hack, and hacking DVD BIOS/software/players is pretty straightforward.

    Who is this 'most of us'? Last time I checked only an extreme minority 'hacked' anything electronic.

  7. Next slashdot Headline... by SwedeGeek · · Score: 5, Funny

    RIAA Sues All Attendees of DVD Forum Conference 2005

    1. Re:Next slashdot Headline... by zalas · · Score: 5, Funny

      RIAA Sues All Attendees of DVD Forum Conference 2005
      In other news... MPAA sues RIAA for infringing on the MPAA's patent to sue their own customers/companies/etc.

  8. Re:This is GREAT, but it's not that huge a deal by Kjella · · Score: 5, Funny

    Also, most of us can hack, and hacking DVD BIOS/software/players is pretty straightforward.

    Jon, is that your work account? (see nick)

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