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The Art of Particle Physics

PhysicsDavid writes to tell us about an article in Symmetry magazine. Jan-Henrik Anderson, a designer with a background in architecture, has collaborated with several particle physicists to develop visual representations of particles based on their physical characteristics. It is the closest most will ever get to 'seeing' a top quark.

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  1. It must just be me by geomon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But I don't see much difference in the representation of top and down quarks in the panels shown.

    That said, I always find it interesting how the visual arts community attempts to capture the reality of the world based on the known principles of their day. Looking back through history at the artist rendering of our world provides us with a unique perspective on how wrong we were in describing the world in art.

    I'm afraid that the world of quantum mechanics is just too weird for us to capture in visual display. Perhaps it will take someone like Dali or Escher to provides us with a view of the quantum world.

    But again, it could just be me.

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    1. Re:It must just be me by Neil+Blender · · Score: 3, Funny

      But I don't see much difference in the representation of top and down quarks in the panels shown.

      Lucky you. I don't see a damn thing because Slashdot has destroyed another unlucky webserver.

    2. Re:It must just be me by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
      > > But I don't see much difference in the representation of top and down quarks in the panels shown.
      >
      > Lucky you. I don't see a damn thing because Slashdot has destroyed another unlucky webserver.

      You're leaping to conclusions.

      I also don't see a damn thing, but from that I can conclude only that Slashdot has placed a webserver in a superposition of states between lucky-and-destroyed, lucky-and-not-destroyed, unlucky-and-destroyed, and unlucky-and-not-destroyed.

    3. Re:It must just be me by geomon · · Score: 4, Funny

      I guess that depends on where you reside at the time of slashdotting: red shifted in anger as the server admin, or blue shifted as the sad slashreader who never got to see the original article.

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    4. Re:It must just be me by starwed · · Score: 3, Interesting

      For each generation of quarks, the article says that the two types of quark (such as top and down) are complements of each other; that is, if you put them on top of each other it creates a solid space.

      Overall they did a decent job of representing the spin, color, and generation. And they chose a shape which has an orientation, so that direction can be expressed. I'm not sure that you get so good feel for the masses of the particles, though...

    5. Re:It must just be me by hazem · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The book "Art & Physics" by Leonard Shlain, http://www.artandphysics.com/, actually argues the opposite. His research shows that for certain cases in physics, what happened in art actualy preceeded, and in a way, predicted breakthroughs in physics.

      From the website:
      Leonard Shlain proposes that the visionary artist is the first member of a culture to see the world in a new way. Then, nearly simultaneously, a revolutionary physicist discovers a new way to think about the world. Escorting the reader through the classical, medieval, Renaissance and modern eras, Shlain shows how the artists' images when superimposed on the physicists' concepts create a compelling fit.

      I haven't read this particular book, but I read his other two: Sex, Time, & Power, and Alphabet vs. The Goddess. They were fascinating reads!

    6. Re:It must just be me by geomon · · Score: 2

      From one of the chapters: "Even the stereotypical proponents of each endeavor are polar opposites. In college, the hip avant-garde art students generally do not mingle with their more conventional counterparts in the physics department."

      Funny that he made that observation because the only two departments on the campus I attended would still have lights on after 8:00 pm were physics and art.

      You'd think they would have noticed themselves and offered to buy each other a round. ;)

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    7. Re:It must just be me by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 2, Funny

      You guys are all funny.
      All you had to do was look at it from a different point in time-space. It is now a day later and the server and images are fine.

      Next time try not to be so three-dimensional.

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  2. Website Mistake. by pavon · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is an error in the website - the bottom row of quarks is not correct.
    The pdf version of the site shows the correct models.

    I spent forever staring at those incorrect models trying to make sense of them, before realizing that top and down were the same, and that something must be wrong :)

    1. Re:Website Mistake. by deglr6328 · · Score: 2, Funny

      No matter, their server went down faster than desperate prom date and the google cache is only from the previous edition so we can't see it anyway. Just like the real thing! :)

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    2. Re:Website Mistake. by B3ryllium · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh dear, it's the Heisenberg Slashdotting Principle.

    3. Re:Website Mistake. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, the pdf isn't all correct either, they managed to mess up the URL of Mr. Hande's page, which has a lot more info than the article linked in the blurb.

  3. An absolutely PERFECT representation by LithiumX · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's perfect. When you go there, you see nothing. This is probably the best way to visually describe a quark - something which is, for all intents and purposes, nothing that builds something.

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  4. could be better? by lawpoop · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I'm wondering why the illustrators chose to show these as 'solid' objects, and not clouds or even animated swirling clouds.

    As a non-scientist, the images I was exposed to growing up were always spheres orbiting spheres, which inevitably led to the 'realization' of everyone I knew (including myself) at some point in their life that atoms were just like the solar system, and what if we are in just a big atom, and atoms really are just little solar systems...? This image, showing the electron 'cloud' around a hydrogen nucleus, is very enlightening for someone who is terrible at math. Totally destroys the 'recursing solar system' theory ;)

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  5. Might be some pretty pictures, but... by Jason1729 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It is the closest most will ever get to 'seeing' a top quark What does a wave in the ocean look like when you remove the water but not the wave? These particles don't have a "look" in any sense we can understand. Current theory is they're harmonic vibrations in the substructure of the universe. It is a fictional piece of art.

  6. Re:Top-Less Quark! by direwulf · · Score: 3, Funny

    Armin Shimmerman without a shirt on...sounds like the beginning to a twisted holosuite program left on the DS9 cutting room floor.

  7. Let's see... by Richy_T · · Score: 4, Funny

    Physical diagram basics

    Electron: Draw small circle with minus sign in it.

    Proton: Draw small but slightly larger circle with plus sign in it.

    Quark: Fire up raytracing software. For hardcopy, be sure to have a color printer handy.

    So much for back-of-a-napkin physics.

    Rich

    1. Re:Let's see... by neocrono · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you can't accurately and easily render a volumetric superquadratic ellipsoid with specific parameters on the back of a napkin, maybe you shouldn't be in the field of physics in the first place. Nobody said it was going to be all fun and games.

      The times, they are a-changin'.



      (got sarcasm?)

  8. Antimatter by Tumbarumba · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have some friends who play around all day smashing antimatter into matter, which I think sounds like a fun hobby. The theory of what they do is well above my head, but I recently got a chance to contribute by creating a new website for them at the Center for Antimatter-Matter Studies. Check it out (though I'm afraid there aren't any pics of quarks)

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    1. Re:Antimatter by KanadaKid19 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Looks like you gathered some inspiration from http://www.simplebits.com, am I correct?

  9. Cache by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Coral cache version worked for me.

  10. Schroedinger's Sever by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 4, Funny

    Someone opened the box. It's dead.

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  11. Quark! by Misanthrope · · Score: 4, Informative

    Little bit of humorous background.

    The name "quark" was taken by Murray Gell-Mann from the book "Finnegan's Wake" by James Joyce. The line "Three quarks for Muster Mark..." appears in the fanciful book. Gell-Mann received the 1969 Nobel Prize for his work in classifying elementary particles.

  12. Mirrordot to the rescue... by TigerNut · · Score: 2, Informative

    They have it: Mirrordot front page. You do have to get the PDF to see the corrected picture...

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  13. Have to say it... by loose_cannon_gamer · · Score: 3, Funny
    Any art collection with pieces like "Higgs Field 3 (Interaction with third generation fermions), ink on canvas, 42x56" is just freaking cool.

    Sure beats, "Man on a chair" in my book any day.

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  14. "Most"? by John+Hasler · · Score: 2, Funny

    > It is the closest most will ever get to 'seeing' a top quark.

    You figure there is some means whereby some will get closer?

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  15. Re:why visual? why not auditory, smell, touch, etc by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 2, Funny

    I wonder what these quarks sound like, smell like, or feel like.

    Based on the universal poultry constant, the answer is intuitively Chicken.

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  16. Working for Me by Bellum+Aeternus · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I'm no physicist, but it seems to me that anything that looks that complex has to be made of smaller parts...

    I mean, look at that rendering of a photon: it has a tube down the middle? What's in that tube? Shouldn't the most base substance of the universe be spheres? Can't think of a simpler structure...

    Again, with the I'm not a physicist.

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    1. Re:Working for Me by Suicyco · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What is there between an electron and a neutron?

      At these scales, "things" become meaningless. Its just points of force and energy wiggling near each other. There would simply be "nothing" in the "tube" in a photon (remember its just an artists representation).

      What is there between two oxygen molecules in the near void of space?

      These things aren't made of anything. They are parts of an equation. We don't even know that they exist in any real sense, we can only infer their existence through crude macro scale experimentation. That experimentation leads us to theories which adequately explain what it was that we saw in our experiment.

      Even if we somehow created something "smaller" (these words are not really useful here) its not really a thing at all, of any size. Its a reaction, a vibration, something more along those lines.

  17. Symmetry by JeiFuRi · · Score: 2, Funny

    So if its symmetry magazine, does that mean that it prints twice as much pages as it normally would?

  18. Complements by benhocking · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yeah, I noticed that too. I think this might lead to misconceptions that up/down, strange/charmed, top/bottom have the same relationships to each other as guanine/cytosine and adenine/(uracil|thymine), when, of course, these pairs merely represent (AFAIK) sibling relationships within a family. First of all, quarks come in threes, not twos (unless you consider anti-quarks to be quarks), and secondly, the threesomes can come from combinations from different families, such as \Lambda^0 which is one each of the up, down, and strange quarks.

    I was hoping that the designs had something to do with their proposed string theory vibrations, but as far as I can tell, this was not the inspiration. Instead, TFA mentions that the shapes are just to indicate whether the particles are first, second, or third "generation".

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    1. Re:Complements by sanx · · Score: 2, Interesting
      The problem with trying to represent superstrings visually is that the whole basis of superstring theory revolves around a multi-dimensional space. Superstrings (and I'm no particle physicist) are meant to oscillate both clockwise and anti-clockwise simultaneously, with each oscillation existing in both the four main dimensions plus up to seven more.

      Whilst the skill of graphical artists continually amazes me, I think trying to represent eleven dimensions on a 2D plane would prove to be somewhat difficult, especially as humans have conceptual difficulty visualising, let alone representing, any other than the main four.

  19. Photons... by Johnno74 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ahhh so THATS what a photon looks like. I hadn't seen one before.

  20. I may be in a devil's-advocate mood today, but... by jkauzlar · · Score: 4, Informative

    The familiar model of the atom is just as fictional, but has been extremely useful for visualizing the atom's properties and structure, particularly for beginners in physics or chemistry students, for whom the knowledge of an electron being both a wave and a particle is too-much-information. These pictures, or something like them, could be potentially useful for scientists. The particle's spin becomes a visual part of the particle and not just a number associated with it! On the other hand, the figures might be too difficult for most professors to draw on a chalkboard.

  21. Attractive, but misleading, representations by xPsi · · Score: 4, Informative
    I'm sure I don't have to remind most Slashdotter's that there is a big difference between visually encoding or organizing all of a particle's properties in a single image (a superperiodic-like table) and what that particle "looks like" physically or geometrically (through some filter of choice). Anderson trys to explain that he is doing the former by calling his method a "visual language" or "representation." The effort to visualize these things geometrically is going to be a much, much bigger task than is shown at that web site.

    Moreover, as an encoder of particle properties, he has forgotten to include a bunch of those properties in his representations. There are also some funny misleading conventions too. For example, his representation does not even begin to convey how much more massive the top quark is than the up quark. So much for building intution. Also, intrinsic spin is a subtle beast and he seems to sweep the details under the carpet. For example, a spin 1/2 object (like a quark) must be be rotated 720 degrees before it returns to its original state. Making a little curley fry to represent a spin 1/2 object seems a lazy, misleading, and simply wrong.

    In my opinion, while the art is an attractive visual treat (and certainly a little physics PR is not bad), it seems a long way from being a complete, useful, or pedagogical representation of these complex objects.

    And yes, IAAP

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    1. Re:Attractive, but misleading, representations by theonewho · · Score: 5, Interesting

      hey now,

      [disclaimer: IAAHEP]

      a most basic lack in the visual representation of these "objects" is the lack of *relationship* -- quarks *cannot* exist in isolation in our dimensioned universe, just as leptons (in the understanding of them as point particles) *must* be "dressed" by virtual interactions -- reducing quarks and leptons to static visual representations is a dis-service at both the PR and substantive levels (interestingly enough, before i was a HEP, i was a PR flack -- life is so strange)

      it is not the "objects" but the "operators" that connect them that contain nearly all the wonder and understanding -- the representation (visual, sonic, olfactory, mathematical or what-have-you) of a quark or lepton is interesting and useful only insofar as it leads to a deeper understanding of the way they are embedded into the whole world -- this depth of understanding seems to me to be the goal of both interesting art and science, and it does not seem to be well served by the images offered here

      to my mind (viz. IMHO), feynman diagrams are a deeper and truer art in the sense that they evoke the underlying nature of the thing they purport to represent -- think of feynman diagrams in the same sense as picasso's line art -- the only difference i see is that picasso drew up in us the things we (or nearly all of we) share in our wordless hearts while feynman created a method of seeing new things in a way that leveraged old visual understandings -- feynman's vision (his *notation*) will only be superseded in the sense that newton's representation of gravitational interaction is superseded by einstein's -- the images presented here lack this deeper nature

      cheers,
      kevin (as if you didn't already know!)

  22. Nobody will ever need more than 6 types of quarks. by Ythan · · Score: 2, Insightful
    It is the closest most will ever get to 'seeing' a top quark.

    Seems awfully shortsighted to me. I would hope that as we learn more about the quantum world, we will be able to develop more accurate visual models of it. Or am I missing something?

  23. Particle Drawings in 2004 & 1878 by CarlGM · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Anyone interested in Jan's drawings, might find books the 1908 edition of OCCULT CHEMISTRY, by Annie Besant & Charles Leadbeater, quite interesting indeed, especially those aware of its comtemporary interpretation by Stephen M. Phillips entitled: Extra Sensory Perceptions of Quarks. Potentially better still might be the 1878 wonder PRINCIPLES OF LIGHT AND COLOR, by Edwin D. Babbitt. Those interested in this title would do well to avoid the edited 1967 edition of this text, as the editor a certain Faber Birren removed all of the good stuff as a simple reading of the contents of the original edition will reveal. The contents seem to describe the wave/particle duality in a directly perceived way. Have a look and see for yourself.

    Andersen seemed unaware of all this when I spoke to him a year or so ago at one of his lectures at the University of Michigan. Michigan does not have a copy of Babbitt's book, but Harvard does.

  24. Slightly off-topic... by agentkhaki · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Well, not entirely. To start, he'll be lecturing (scroll about half-way down) on November 10th, 5:00 PM at the Michigan Theater in Ann Arbor, MI. If you can make it, go see him. You'll not be disappointed.

    A couple of other links from the page above:



    The rest is slightly off-topic.

    I actually had Jan-Henrick as a professor in college for Introduction to Industrial Design. One of the top five classes I had there. Not only is he an incredibly smart guy, he's also very well rounded, with knowledge and background in all manner of subjects and interests, some well-known, others quite obscure. And he's absolutely one of the nicest people you'll ever meet. It only makes sense that he was hired there when they were just starting to implement the new curriculum, which has a much greater emphasis on diversity of learning.
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  25. Aptlets by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've always enjoyed Greg Egan's gallery of applets illustrating the quantum physics that often underlie his splendiferous fiction. Egan is a scientist, a programmer, and a top notch fiction writer. I recommend _Diaspora_ first (the book is better than its applet) - its characters are quite good, the story interesting, the future vision compelling. And somewhere in the first 15% of the book, Egan blows your mind describing higher-dimensional quantum topology that's also integral (pun intended) to the story.

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  26. Re:I may be in a devil's-advocate mood today, but. by dario_moreno · · Score: 2, Interesting

    exactly ; moreover, when you solve Schrödinger's equation for a molecule on a program like Gaussian, you end up with pictures of the electronic density which look most of the time surprisingly close to the old fashioned ball and stick representation.

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  27. To be more detailed by benhocking · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When I say quarks come in threes, I mean they come in multiples of three - usually -1, 0, or 1 multiple of 3.

    A few ways you can get to 3:
    • 1-1 quarks (quark/anti-quark). Examples: pions et al
    • 3 quarks. Examples: proton, neutron, $\Lambda^0$
    • -3 quarks. Examples: antiproton, antineutron, etc.
    • 2-2 quarks (2 quarks/2 anti-quarks). Defined as: 4-quarks
    • 4-1 quarks (4 quarks/1 anti-quark). Defined as pentaquarks
    • 1-4 quarks. Defined as anti-particles of above.
    • 6 quarks. Examples: neutron-pairs or proton-pairs
    • -6 quarks. Examples: anti-particles of above.
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  28. Only partly mistaken by benhocking · · Score: 2, Informative

    Particles with 3 quarks are fermions, and particles with 2 quarks (or more exactly, 1 quark and 1 anti-quark) are bosons.

    However, fermions do not necessarily have 3 quarks, and bosons do not necessarily have 2 quarks. Any particle with a half-integer spin is a fermion. This includes electrons, neutrinos, and hadrons with an odd number of quark/anti-quarks. Any particle with an even-integer spin is a boson. This includes photons, gravitons, and hadrons with an even number of quark/anti-quarks. Neutron-pairs are bosons. This is important because it is responsible for the collapse of neutron stars.

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  29. Re:So is at least 20% of every science class by Lifewish · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think you missed my point slightly. Here's an approximate quote from my lecturer: "Now, back last year, we taught you that fluid going down a pipe looks like this [draws a diagram]. That's completely wrong. No fluid ever flowed like that."

    The Fluid Dynamics I was talking about wasn't just lacking in applicability, it was completely misleading as to the true behaviour of fluids. If you want the specifics, it was along the lines of: second year FD teaches that a fluid can flow in a uniform fashion down a pipe - every bit going at the same speed. Third year FD teaches that that can't happen cos viscosity (friction) stops the fluid dead at the wall of the pipe. The second year version was a complete lie - but it was a necessary simplification if they didn't want us to get confused and bored and start skipping lectures.

    Again, the Set Theory I was talking about wasn't just useless for applied mathematicians - I'm a pure mathmo myself, so I find plenty of use for that sort of stuff - it was actively wrong in places. I'm afraid this time I can't remember the specifics (that was first year and I haven't had the third year course yet) but I can remember being horribly disillusioned when, while proudly spouting off to my third-year friends, I was kindly informed that the theory I was relying on was only true in about half the variants of Set Theory floating around.

    We all lie to students. How's a rainbow formed? Well, raindrops refract light, y'see, so... why doesn't it smudge out in a disgusting blur? How does a braincell behave? Well, you draw a bunch of lines going into the cell, and a bunch of lines coming out, and assign a matrix to your "cell" to estimate the level of synaptic firing. Shame it doesn't work like that in real life. I'm currently doing an entire course that reformulates Quantum Mechanics in a pretty way, and I'm feeling slightly depressed cos I know we throw most of it away when we hit Quantum Field Theory next year.

    There are a lot of examples of bull out there. Many of them have beneficial side-effects because they allow you to construct a mental framework of what's going on that you can then graft information onto. Eventually the original framework may be trashed, but the process will be slow enough that you can avoid having to rebuild your intuition as to how the system behaves from scratch. I'd tend to place these pictures in that class.

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