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Microsoft Rep To Keynote Unix Conference
An anonymous reader writes "According to ZDNET Microsoft is going to be keynoting the Australian Unix and Open Systems Users Group conference. From the article: '"Don't be put off by Chris' Microsoft badge -- he is actually a long time Unix hacker," the user group said today in a statement updating users on presentations at the conference ... Green, Microsoft's local Unix Interoperability and High Performance Computing specialist, will update the conference on his company's "Unix and open source-related activities, including their efforts to provide a POSIX environment in Windows, and to integrate Windows and Unix systems."'"
Maybe this will help relieve the stigma people have about a lot of MS employees that are well known. Not every person there is a microsoft recording.
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Tomorrow has been canceled due to lack of interest.
which is a bit like including 3 black people and a handicapped guy in your 20,000 workforce
"see we are not racist, we employ minorities"
Since he now works for MSFT and they have NO HISTORY of working productively with competitors, he and his company will only do harm. Why on earth would anybody let an MSFT badge keynote a *nix conference is beyond me... It's bull that they say it'll be about interoperability and most likely all you'll get is how you can ftp into their system if you use their ftp client, written in MS.net, and run on Mono. And if your dumb enough to think that you'll have any future supporting a *nix interface from MSFT, good luck with that. Remember Bristol and Wind/U?
I sure hope he gets heckled out the door, cause MSFT hasn't done anything to earn more respect than that. IMO.
LoB
"Anyone who stands out in the middle of a road looks like roadkill to me." --Linus
Some of us have been listening to Microsoft say dumb and rude things about Unix and Linux for over 7 years; after a bellyfull of their slander and FUD and lies and "unbiased studies" conducted by paid stool pigeons, all the while causing businesses to lose billions due to poor security and blue screens of death, we're supposed to treat their new mouthpiece with dignity and respect?
The first way to tell that this is BS is to see if Microsoft is willing to guarantee Linux won't be sued for software patent infringement like IBM did. The fact is they won't and they don't want to. The deal here is that Microsoft has figured out that they can't beat Linux head on in the marketplace, so now they are trying to co-opt it. Watch out for the bullshit monster chasing after you and trying to give you a big fat kiss! I'm sure this is just the beginning.
Do not fall for it at all. Free software is inherently better than proprietary software because it is first of all free, and then and only then is it often better for technical or usage reasons. In free markets, freedom maters. None of the fundamentals have changed, you are what you hold yourself accountable to.
The best thing microsoft could do for itself is to support unix, keeping in mind the market for their other products.
Windows isn't everything, if they're able to get in with the open source crowd they could design components, get everyone hooked and essentially take over the platform. This would take more than a fiscal quarter, which is probably the only reason they haven't already.
Well, thats what I would do if I were the CEO.
I unserstand in the real world we are supposed to act all civilized and polite, but I say FUCK THEM, it's too late for MS to play nice. Welcome to the future, enjoy Linux and OSS, and FUCK YOU.
Now excuse me as I go back to finish working, I was using OpenOffice.org (latest beta of v2) and it's wonderfull and I'm carefull to make sure I submit any bugs I find. That's my part.
It was basically a stupid little feature thrown in to meet a stupid little government requirement thrown in by some UNIX zealots to try and keep UNIX around.
No, it was a necessary feature thrown in to allow the government to avoid having to throw away all their software once the operating systems they originally developed on were no longer optimal. Games of "catch the moving API" can be fun and profitable for operating system vendors, but they're not so great for third party developers and users. The idea behind having a portable interface was to allow customers to choose different operating systems based on price, features, and performance. Obviously that's not the kind of market that a vendor can siphon tens of billions of dollars of profit from, however - I'm sure Microsoft much prefers the current situation where customers can choose different operating systems based on price, features, performance, and having to rewrite or replace all their unique applications.
On the one hand, I can see the appeal of Microsoft's development ideology: Make it big, cheap, slow, and usable by idiots. Sadly, though, it tends to be used by idiots. And why would you pay an idiot 80 dollars an hour to setup your mail server and another 200 dollars every two weeks to reboot it, when you can pay someone competent to set it up once and have it run consistently indefinitely?
It's possible that everyone there was a unix geek. If they've been around long enough, that's really the only option. But the fact that they're doing recruiting at a university instead of coding should tell you something about who they are. I leave the ramifications of that as an exercise to the reader.
The ______ Agenda
They didn't say Unix was "better" than Windows -- but that working for MS was better than working in Unix. Which is likely true for them and many others. Lots of people spend their days working on useless crap, because that's what you get paid to do. The product isn't really that important, it's your quality of life, at the office and what you can buy with the paycheque.
It works on the principle that if he introduces himself as a MS guy, the Linux faithful will think "This man works for The Enemy" and disregard everything he says.
On the other hand, if he stands there and says "I was a UNIX hacker..." then folk start thinking "one of us! Let's hear what he has to say..." instead of keeping keeping firmly in mind that A) he's still employed by the Enemy B) would not have been sent except to evangelise and C) probably had his speech written by marketdroids at Redmond.
You can see the same approach at work in a couple of dozen Slashdot posts every time there is a Linux thread: "I used Linux for years until I finally realised..." "Much as I love Linux, I have to say..." "I use Linux on all my home machines, but in the real world..."
It's just another scummy marketing trick. That's all.
Don't let THEM immanentize the Eschaton!
Anyone's NFS (yes, even Sun's) is so badly broken that I may not mention it. NFS itself is a kludgey pile of dung.