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Firefox Tops 100 Million Downloads

webslash writes "Mozilla's Firefox web browser crossed the 100 million downloads milestone today. Webmasters are adding Firefox download counters on websites to keep track of the downloads in real time. Firefox celebrated 50 million downloads just 6 months back and with the release of Firefox 1.5 Beta 2. Additionally the Firefox 2/3 roadmap also looks promising."

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  1. Some misc. Browser Percentage Data - GO FF! by xmas2003 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Looking at the browser data for this month so far on the halloween webcam, there is 64.3% IE, 27.2% Firefox, 2.5% Safari, 1.2% Netscape, 0.8% Mozilla, 0.7% Opera, and the rest misc. - even a handful of hits from WebTV and Firebird.

    In comparison, the 2004 Christmas webcam had 67.9% IE, 21.1% Firefox, 2.7% Netscape, 2.7% Safari, 2.4% Mozilla, and 1.6% Opera. Not a lotta change, although one interesting thing is the drop in Mozilla (everyone uses Firefox now?) and Netscape - no surprise on the later.

    This would support some of the press that says Firefox growth is slowing. Having said that, Firefox just ROCKS - really sucks when you can do something cool in HTML/CSS (example :hover) and IE doesn't support it. And obligatory "extensions are cool" too ... GO FIREFOX!

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    1. Re:Some misc. Browser Percentage Data - GO FF! by AuMatar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The loss in Mozilla I think is mainly due to the Mozilla Foundation dropping it for Firefox. It can be hard to find a copy of it, not many people outside of the true geeks know of Seamonkey. Its really too bad- the UI and feature set of the Mozilla browser were much better IMO.

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    2. Re:Some misc. Browser Percentage Data - GO FF! by dslauson · · Score: 4, Insightful
      W3 Schools' Browser Stats page has it more like this:

      IE: 75.5%
      Firefox: 18.0%
      Mozilla: 2.5%
      Netscape: 0.4%
      Opera: 1.2%

      Worth mentioning, though, is that any site that attracts tech-savvy people is going to have a disproportionaly high percentage for Firefox. This means that
      1. Good browser statistics are hard to come by.
      2. Smart people use firefox.

    3. Re:Some misc. Browser Percentage Data - GO FF! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      you mistake tech-savvy for smart ;-)

    4. Re:Some misc. Browser Percentage Data - GO FF! by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      AJAX *is* javascript. It's just another name for it...

      It's useful on some sites, but the majority should avoid things like that as it just causes incomaptibilities (especially with IE!).

    5. Re:Some misc. Browser Percentage Data - GO FF! by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Additionally the Firefox 2/3 roadmap also looks promising."

      In what way? There's absolutely nothing on the linked page about Firefox 2 or Firefox 3 (presumably what Firefox two-thirds means) except a single codename: "The Ocho." Are you saying that this codename is promising? Or did the submitter of the article not even read the link he pasted in there?

    6. Re:Some misc. Browser Percentage Data - GO FF! by jwsd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Smart people use firefox.

      Depend on what kind of people you call smart. As a techie myself, I sincerely wish we were the smart people. But after seeing CEO's, politicians, and lawyers making much more money, getting more pretty girls, living in grand mansions, and having much more influence in the world in general, I seriously doubt we are the smart people. Maybe we are just smart at certain things but stupid at the more important stuff. When you spend your time on figuring out which browser to use, you have less time on getting money and power.

  2. More sec bugs = more downloads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    More sec bugs => more downloads

  3. Net Installations by Vile+Slime · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah,

    100 million, billion, jillion, whatever is great. Those numbers can be achieved via the same people downloading multiple releases. But, how many singular installtions are there. Now that would be an interesting statistic.

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    1. Re:Net Installations by nrgy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is exactly why I realy don't pay attention to statistics all that much. For instance when Steve Jobs introduced the iPod Mini he gave a number of total music downloads the iTunes store had done to that date. He then took this number and averaged it to the number of songs downloaded per person. The result which he gave is most likely nowhere near the actual average. The problem with these kind of statistics is they never account for the user reformating windows 10 times in a day "I've done that with linux to.. Yes I'm a noob :D" or the person who downloads and then keeps the file saved for later installs.

      I have no problem with a company doing these types of statistics for internal use but I dont like when they publish them in hopes of showing the world how great they are. Their are so many variables which can make them look great or horrible when being viewed. When it comes to these kinds of things for the internet its almost always pointless useless information.

    2. Re:Net Installations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      True.. download statistics are meaningless. I mean, my Firefox downloads have been through the Debian repository and I doubt they count that.

    3. Re:Net Installations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      AND how do they track when i download from linuxpackages.net for slackware?

  4. Go Firefox by DominicanZero · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's at times like this when I feel so good about being part of the Firefox community. Let's keep working towards a safer internet and safer computers. Go Firefox!

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  5. Versions? by cprincipe · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Considering the number of version updates that have been released due to security holes, are they counting *unique* downloads? After all, I have downloaded 1.0.0 through 1.0.7, does that count as seven downloads?

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  6. Ratio of downloads to users by radicalskeptic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have downloaded Firefox at least 5 times or so just for myself (upgrades, reinstalls, different computers, etc). I wonder what the statistics are on average number of downloads per person.

    Well even if they're ridiculously high, 100 million is a freaking huge number. Even if the average person has downloaded it 10 times, that still means over 10 million people are using it worldwide.

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  7. Multiple Installations from One Download by Foofoobar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yes well you also fail to take into consideration IT departments which download once and install multiple times. IT departments have to maintain control over installed software so they just maintain install images and a localized software depository and push it out when it is needed or update that one copy when needed. So the stat is flawed both ways.

    But I would say that I would think it balances out and that this still is probably the best stat we have for judging it's growth. It would be nice to see a graph of downloads month by month to REALLY see the growth in adoption rate.

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  8. Re:hmm by Ragein · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I downloaded 1 copy and installed it on all the 500 at work soo dont worry.

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  9. The number for 1.5 will have more weight by denis-The-menace · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I hope they have a separate counter for the release version of FF 1.5 because that will be truer account of FF's popularity.

    It's one thing to have FF 1.0x but given the auto-update feature in FF 1.5, you'd have to be a fool not to upgrade.

    I just hope you don't need to run FF 1.5 as Admin for the Auto-update feature to work.

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  10. Firefox getting worse with every release by Junky191 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Anyone else noticing Firefox getting more and more bloated and buggy with every release? I remember it being swift and stable about a year ago (0.7 days?), but now it takes years to load, downloads don't always work, and I simply can't use tabs as it leads to a crash within an hour. I thought the idea behind the Firefox fork was a lighter, speedy alternative to Mozilla, but now Firefix seems to have a pretty alarming rate of feature bloat. I find myself wanting to know what the alternatives to the alternative are now.

  11. An Informal Survey Of Blog Stats by WombatControl · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think Firefox usage is quite a bit higher than people think. A lot of blogs contain public Sitemeter information that includes browser share. For sites like Instapundit, Daily Kos, or Red State Firefox usage is anywhere from 25-40% of total browsers. My own site has IE just under 50%, Firefox with 35-40%, and Safari hovering around 10% depending on the time of the survey.

    Granted, blog readers tend to be somewhat more ahead of the curve than Joe or Jane Sixpack, but they're also indicative of where the market will be a few years down the road. The problem IE and Microsoft faces is that while they have a very high marketshare, their mindshare sucks - everyone uses Microsoft products but only those who take return trips to the Kool Aid bowl particularly like doing it. When an alternative like Firefox comes along that doesn't take a CS degree to use, people start switching, and the stats on more technically-oriented sites bear that out.

  12. Re:I gave Firefox a chance by Khyber · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The problem is whether you're running Windows, or Linux. In Windows, FF starts leaking like a sieve after you put a few tabs up. Linux, you notice no memory usage that's not normal (about 20-30 megs of memory, tops) and it remains fast and responsive, even after leaving it running for a long time

    Under Windows, if I leave a FF browser with two or three tabs open running, and come back maybe 1 1/2 hours later, about half of my system memory is beng hogged by FF. (512 megs, FF reports using 210 of that under the Task Manager in Windows XP Professional)

    So, no smearing of names here. It works great for one OS and it just seems to suck under another OS. For all we know it could be something Microsoft is causing. I will admit one thing, FireFox is getting a bit more bloated with each release. Instead of writing patches, why not just re-write the vulnerable code so that it works, and release a new version, not a patch? We may have to wait longer but at least we'll know the code's been "fixed" (and hopefully optimized.)

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