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Florida DUI Law and Open Source

pete314 writes "A Florida court this Friday will hear arguments in a case where the accuracy of a breathalyzer is being scrutinized because the manufacturer refuses to release the source code. A state court ruling last year said that accused drunk drivers are entitled to receive details about the inner workings of the "mystical machine" that determined their guilt, and defense attorneys are now using that ruling to open up the device's source code.Is this part of a larger trend? With software bugs being a fact of life, consumers and organizations could claim that they need to be able to verify an application's source code before they accept that their calculations are accurate. Think credit card transactions, speed detecting radar guns, electronic voting machines..." Here is our previous story when this first became an issue in Florida.

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  1. Should all government software be open source? by MacFury · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If, ideally, the government exists soley for it's citizens. Would it be in our best interest to be able to view the source code of non classified projects? If the government is in fact using our tax dollars to pay programmers, should we be entitled to view the outcome of their work and does it become public domain if paid for by public funds?

    1. Re:Should all government software be open source? by jfruhlinger · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The reason there's no push for this is that for most people, making code open source doesn't actually improve their access to it. For 99.999 percent of the US population (and, I'd wager, a solid majority of Slashdot readers), an open source breathalyzer is still a mysterious box. The only difference is that you could get a computer scientist who doesn't work for the manufacturer to explain it. Now I do think that this is important (especially when it comes to voting machines) but for most people it probably doesn't come across as a great blow for openness and freedom.

      jf

    2. Re:Should all government software be open source? by rovingeyes · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Would it be in our best interest to be able to view the source code of non classified projects?

      Yes. It would be very ideal and it would be in our very best interest to view the source code. It I think affirms the part of accountability. I want to make sure that my govt. isn't screwing me (fines etc) by writing manipulated code

      If the government is in fact using our tax dollars to pay programmers, should we be entitled to view the outcome of their work

      Of course, I want to be sure and for that matter every responsible citizen should be assured that their dollars are not being just given to corporations. Halliburton rings any bell?

      and does it become public domain if paid for by public funds?

      This is debatable. Obviously you wouldn't want your defense software etc to be open source but breath analyzer, I think poses no threat to national security.

    3. Re:Should all government software be open source? by Vombatus · · Score: 4, Interesting
      In a properly functioning democracy, all government should be open source - that is, it should be open to scruitiny from anyone and everyone.

      Some jurisdictions have Freedom of Information and other assorted records laws, which entitle normal citizens the right of access to documents and records, ensure that they are not destroyed to cover things up, etc.

      Unfortunately, some governments work extraordinarily hard to subvert these rights. Of course, some people in some countries/states/etc do not have these rights to begin with.

      So YES, governments should be open source.

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    4. Re:Should all government software be open source? by dwandy · · Score: 5, Insightful
      No it doesn't.
      Maybe I'm wrong, but imho, every free citizen has the right to personally verify any evidence used against them in a court of law. Whether or not that citizen is able to comprehend the arguments/details/whatever is not relevant - only that they be allowed to review it.
      If they are personally unable to comprehend this, then this affords them the opportunity to consult with the experts of their choosing as they see fit - not as the gvt sees fit.

      For due process to be transparent, the defendant needs to be afforded every opportunity to review and question every element that is being used to convict him/her. No matter how "independant" any group/company/organisation/person might be on paper, they are still not "my guy" if they have to sign "their papers" in order to see the evidence.

      While this doesn't exlcude non-OSS, it does (and imho should) exclude anything where the mechanism is a trade secret. (that doesn't mean it's OSS, just not a trade secret)

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    5. Re:Should all government software be open source? by strider44 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why does that matter if the average person can read it or not? Here's an analogy, the average person can't read laws as thoroughly as a Lawyer, so should the government just say "Don't worry, you don't need to know anything about these laws, you just have to go to jail when we say so."

      This is used for defining guilt in a court of law, how it works in my opinion is extremely relevant, and people might like to hire a computer scientist to know the value of that definition. I'd bet most people would be quite pissed off if you told them they're going to jail because a little box says so and you have to take it on the little box's word and the word of the makers of the little box.

    6. Re:Should all government software be open source? by Eivind · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The fact that most people can't examine the source for themselves is irrelevant. Most people also cannot analyse DNA, evaluate a fingerprint-match, read and correctly interpret law, evaluate the speed needed to deform a car in a certain way or or or.

      But without this ruling we had a situation where essentially:

      • You risk paying fines or going to jail if the little box says you where intoxicated.
      • How the box works is a secret.
      • Neither you, nor your lawyer nor your expert witness is allowed to examine the workings of the box.

      That's unacceptable. You've got a rigth to confront the evidence against you. That required you to know exactly what that evidence is, so that you (or your lawyer) can point out weaknesses in the evidence, for example.

      The logical conclusion is that evidence of any kind that is collected by closed-source software, and that is not independently verifiable is not evidence at all, but instead merely the empty claim of a uncheckable device.

    7. Re:Should all government software be open source? by Stone+Pony · · Score: 5, Insightful
      This is a common misconception on slashdot. It surfaces in just about every discussion concerning speed cameras, traffic signal cameras, radar guns etc. The black box is not the accuser. The accuser is some functionary; the black box record/reading/whatever is evidence.

      So the scenario is not "I was accused by (e.g.) the speed camera", but "I was accused by [name of minor civic dignitary responsible for this sort of thing]". You can confront him (or her) and ask "on what grounds do you claim that I was speeding/drunk etc." and they will respond that they have the reading from their machine as evidence. The evidential value of the reading is still up for discussion or dispute, but you're not being accused by the machine itself.

      FWIW (and IANAL), I suspect that in the UK, at least, you could challenge the accuracy of the machine (in fact, it's been done successfully with some radar guns, at least) but I think that your chances of having the machine pulled apart to demonstrate that every last component worked would be pretty low. I think it would be enough for the prosecution to show that (i) the machine was accurate when properly calibrated; and (ii) it had been properly maintained, calibrated and tested.

    8. Re:Should all government software be open source? by AdamWeeden · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Aren't there Trade Secrets?

      Of course there are, but the algorithm that determines whether I get a criminal record or not should NOT be one of them. It's the equivalent of a cop getting to go into a courtroom and say "Trust us he's guilty, but the method we used to determine that is a trade secret."

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    9. Re:Should all government software be open source? by cluckshot · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Mod the parent of this post up! He deserves a 5. The trust us mentality of the government bureaucrats has cost the freedom of many and the lives of others. Distrust of the government is the right and moral obligation of every citizen, because it is all that keeps tyrrany in check. With Hurricane Katrina the bureaucrats wouldn't let the citizens boats in for rescue efforts and hundreds died awaiting a helicopter. The boats were turned back because the drivers were not "qualified" by FEMA. Should we trust this sort of behavior? Yes, we can trust it to kill us.

      In the justice the issue of fact presented in court is the whole issue. You must be able to try the "witness". This is why "rape shield laws" really protect the criminal from prosecution. They prevent trying the witness and thus we must either take the claim on faith or forget it. The inability to try a witness in technical evidence is to give the state an assured conviction without a trial. One may as well install a vending machine for justice. With modern computers the taking of their output as evidence is and act of extreme faith. One must trust the input, trust the process and trust the custody of the whole system including documents which are virtual in the first place. Video evidence for example may appear totally intact, but with modern edit technology it can be a computer induced hallucination.

      I want DUI's locked up! But I don't want officers running a vending machine for justice either. The more computer dependent these machines become, the more certain the tests they presume to do can be faked, altered or be just plain wrong and to test the programming becomes as important as asking the arresting officer questions. Educated Jurors must keep this stuff in mind.

      The state pays officers and prosecutors to get convictions. They will unemploy one who loses often. There is a high incentive to fake and change evidence. The state has found it very cheap to hire very simple minded officers and load them with gadgets designed for the purpose of conviction. It makes money for the state and makes officials look like they are doing their job.

      In England something like 800,000 traffic cameras exist. They got fabulous photos of terrorists doing their damage, but nothing could be done to stop them before hand. This because nobody was really watching. Cameras you see lack the ability to suspect (Probable Cause). The effect of these cameras has been an increase in crime and danger. This because the officers are no longer actually doing their job. We have to change this thinking that the machine is right. It exists to avoid being right.

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  2. Umm by interiot · · Score: 4, Insightful
    1. Why start with breathalyzers, and not voting machines?

    2. So is this kind of ruling going to spread to radar detectors, baggage-scanning equipment, automated video cameras, etc?

  3. Re:Sorry But by Tester · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I'm sorry, I am all for open source and think it should be promoted. But if the breathalyzer's accuracy has been tested and verified, not being open source should not be a reason to let a drunk driver off the hook, in my opinion.

    I'm all for Free Software too.. and I also dont think the drunk driver should be let off the hook. That's why the source code has to be released.. Its not as if it was complex software.. and I mean.. they are selling a machine. Its not like asking Microsoft to Free Windows .. it wont kill the company.. But will probably guarantee a fair trial.. And it creates a good precedent for voting machines, etc.

  4. Should be more than just source code by Osty · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The larger problem here is that a lot of these tools (breathalyzers, RADAR and LIDAR guns, etc) are dealing with ambiguous data in the first place. For example, the algorithm used to determine BAC in a breathalyzer may be implemented correctly, but what if the algorithm itself is wrong? You're dealing with many variables (a person's mass, their metabolism, etc), and those variables have different values for different people. It's well-known, for example, that women will blow higher on a breathalyzer than a man simply because they're generally smaller.

    Similarly for LIDAR (laser speed detection), the underlying principle is using distance and time to determine rate. Sounds straightforward, as d = r * t, but how do you know you've got the right values for d? It's been shown that rapid movement of a LIDAR gun can cause even inanimate objects to register a rate. How do we know the LIDAR gun measured the distance your car traveled over a period of time, rather than the distance of your car at one point in time and the distance of some other reflective object (say, a much closer stop sign) at a different point in time? At the distances in question, we're talking sharpshooter skills as a requirement for using a LIDAR gun, but it seems that every cop on the force has one. Can they expect us to believe that every cop is a sharpshooter, or that several cups of coffee won't induce shaking in the cop's hands that could cause false readings?

    It's a good precedent, forcing the breathalyzer source to be opened to inspection, but the assumption is still that the underlying algorithm is accurate when it's not. I don't understand why courts continue to rely on technology such as the breathalyzer or the LIDAR gun when there are better, proven tests that could be used instead (blood tests, RADAR or pacing with a calibrated speedometer). Worse, once a court has chosen to allow such evidence (this is not arbitrary, but once the admissability of such a test is challenged and lost it's almost impossible to re-challenge), you can no longer argue that the underlying tool is bad (without extenuating circumstances that would bring the acceptability of such tools back into question). You can argue that the machine wasn't properly calibrated or maintained or that the officer using it was untrained or unqualified or out of practice, but you can't argue that the tool itself is inadmissable as evidence even if the facts are on your side.

    1. Re:Should be more than just source code by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "The larger problem here is that a lot of these tools (breathalyzers, RADAR and LIDAR guns, etc) are dealing with ambiguous data in the first place. For example, the algorithm used to determine BAC in a breathalyzer may be implemented correctly, but what if the algorithm itself is wrong?"

      Heh. I remember reading a story once where a dude challenged a speeding ticket he recieved. He wanted proof that the machine was properly reading the speed of his vehicle. The company that made the radar gun refused to go into detail about how it worked, afterall that's proprietary information they don't want their competitors having. Ultimately the case was thrown out because they brought the radar gun into the court room and clocked a wall travelling at 4mph.

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    2. Re:Should be more than just source code by Husgaard · · Score: 4, Interesting
      In Denmark where I live, the police wanted to start using breath analyzers to prove intoxication to the court in DUI cases a few years back instead of the blood test that they have been using for years. After some public debate that project was stopped after some experts concluded that breath analyzers were not always completely accurate. Today only blood tests are used.

      But here laser speed detection is widespread to catch speeders, and a very special court case comes to mind: The defendant was accused of speeding in a rural area at a speed nearly physical impossible at the place where his speed was measured with a laser. The police refused to give out any information on the device used, except for the brand and the model. The defence got hold of a copy of the operations manual for the device from an unknown source, and the police had to confirm to the court that it was the operations manual for the device used. The defendant was aquitted because the defence could show that the policeman didn't know about the warnings about reflections in the manual and the he had used it in a way that could give false results. Without the manual the defendent would have been falsely convicted.

    3. Re:Should be more than just source code by oclawgeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Before you consider this, it's necessary to understand that in nearly all, if not all, jurisdictions, there are two ways to be convicted of a DUI: (1) driving under the influence of alcohol; and (2) driving with a blood alcohol content of X. As the defense bar gets better at defending against the junk science promoted by "tough on crime" legislators, the laws grow ever more draconian. In some states, like California, the prosecutor is entitled to take advantage of all sorts of evidentiary presumptions, including the presumption that if your blood alcohol level is at or above 0.08 percent as tested on an approved breath analysis instrument, your blood alcohol content is actually at or above 0.08 percent. These presumptions were necessary at every step, because the defense bar was successful in its efforts to demonstrate for juries how unreliable the "science" of the government really was. When you can't win on facts, change the rules. There are a lot of assumptions to challenge when it comes to breath analysis. The underlying "science" is based on a fifty-year old model of how air interacts with blood and how alcohol in alveolar (so-called "deep lung") air can be measured. The hypothetical "average person" doesn't exist, and these "instruments" are not calibrated to account for all of the variable characteristics of a subject that could affect the blood alcohol content. None of this means anything, though, if the evidentiary presumptions all favor the government. Innocence until guilt is proven is a quaint but outmoded concept now. Due process in DUI cases is little but a legal fiction these days. The lawyers in the current case are arguing not for the public release of code, but for a defendant's right to see whether the machine even handles the junk science properly, and if the companies that make these machine won't produce the records, the defendant will not get a dismissal - the court simply will not allow the jury to hear the evidence of the test results. As a practical matter, without the benefit of those test results, the prosecutor's job is very much more difficult. becuase the jury will then have the opportunity to examine the police officer's role in having performed the field sobriety tests correctly (they often aren't), his bias (e.g., his having decided defendant was "drunk" before even administering the tests) and all of the other issues. In other words, all these defense attorneys are fighting for is a fair trial for the defendant. You can't really call it fair if the defendant isn't allowed to exercise his constitutional right to challenge -all- of the evidence against him, can you?

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  5. Remember, ... by bcat24 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... friends don't let friends code drunk.

    1. Re:Remember, ... by Dorothy+86 · · Score: 5, Funny
      But the catch-22 is that people who code don't normally have friends.

      (calm down, mods... it's a joke!)

  6. Do you think their testing is 100% foolproof? by DocSavage64109 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the software is complex enough to require "numerous software upgrades", then it is complex enough to have bugs. And it seems to me that not all bugs would necessarily show up under testing.

  7. Let me get this straight by commodoresloat · · Score: 5, Funny

    You go to a bar. Someone buys you ten beers. So your intoxication was free as in beer. Then you get pulled over and get a breathalyzer test which gets thrown out of court because the software was not free as in speech. So then you walk out of court, free as in Willy!

  8. Calibration of Speed Traps by Burning+Plastic · · Score: 5, Informative

    One of the easiest ways to get a speeding ticket overturned/dropped (at least in the UK) is to request all of the calibration reports for the particular camera/radar gun used to take your speed.

    If the reports cannot be produced or are older/outside the statutory testing period, then the data produced by the machine will not hold up in court, and so the case will be dropped.

    In some cases, the police simply cannot be bothered/do not have the time to do all of the necessary paperwork, and so the case may just be forgotten/ignored.

    I don't know if this could be applied to a breathalyser, but it would be an interesting to see what would happen...

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  9. Re:Sorry But by chrpai · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I pulled jury duty earlier this year and was placed on a DUI trial. I can tell you that breatholizers are complete bullshit. In Texas if you are pulled over refuse to take the test and offer to have a blood sample instead. They will threaten to take your license away if you say no but it's an administrative process and you can still get exemptions and keep driving.

    I learned alot more about DUI law during that trial and while I never personally drink and drive I could see very easily how one could be falsely suspected and convicted.

    So how did the jury decide? We didn't there was a mistrail because the "sleezy lawyer" ( the prosecutor in this case ) asked the cop a question about the administration of a PBT ( portable breath test ). These are not admissible in TX court and the judge had already said it wasn't allowed in. The judge felt that we wouldn't ignore the fact that we had heard the cops answer and declared a mistrial. He said he felt the prosecutor made a "mistake" but I don't believe it. I think she knew the trial wasn't going her way and wanted a way out.

    It kinda sucked actually.... it was like reading a novel and not getting to read the end of the book.

  10. Even if it had been tested... by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Even if the brethalyzer's accuracy had been tested, so what?

    Think about easter eggs and date bugs: How do you know the software works correctly on leap year day? On Sundays? On the 295th test? If the cop enters "124341+" on the keypad just before running the test?

    You don't.

    The output of a machine is NEVER evidence in a trial. What is evidence is the expert testimony of a human - hired by the prosecution - that the output is correct. (This has an incentive structure that encourages both fraud and rose-colored-viewing on the expert's part.)

    To mount a defense the accused needs to be able to hire his OWN expert and let HIM examine the machine and identify any ways it could have made a false indication. Then you get a conviction if, and only if, the prosecution's expert is able to show that none of those occurred, so the reading is accurate.

    For the defense expert to be able to do his job on a software-using system he needs access to the source. If the prosecution is able to deny him that, he has been denied - by his opponent - his due process right to challenge the evidence against him. So the evidence MUST be thrown out if he is to have a fair trial. IM(NAL)HO that's cut and dried.

    Imagine if the machine was a witness. The prosecution gets to question the witness. The defense does not get to cross-examine him. See where that would lead?

    How about a program that allegedly (according to a prosecution's expert witness) examines evidence and says "he's guilty" or "he's innocent"? Without a defense expert examining the code how do you know it's not:

      g = "innocent"
      repeat until eof
          if input line == "officer O'Malley saw a rabbit"
            g = "guilty"
      print "he's " g

    So it's:
      1) open the software generally,
      2) open the software to a long string of (expensive) defense expert witnesses,
      3) not use the software's output if challenged, or
      4) deny due process.

    If they try to settle on 2) it's easy to argue that not going to 1) denys due process to the poor, since they can't take advantage of the expensive experts.

    Result: No closed-software devices can be used by the procecution if challenged (unless the courts decide to deny due process).

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    1. Re:Even if it had been tested... by OneArmedMan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There was a case in Australia, where an improved version of the breathalyzer machine "got drunk". After having serveral people blow below the legal limit, the machine started to acrue the alcohol, eg person 1 0.01 PCA, person 2 0.02 PCA , etc etc until this fellow blew and it went over the limit.

      Problem was this fellow was of a religion ( cant remember which one ) that forbade alcohol. So he goes back to the station for a blood test and Lo for the blood test came back negative for alcohol.

      And now blood tests are needed to convict on DUI and "blowing in the bag" is used to see if a blood test is needed.

      ( currently looking for link )

  11. Re:Sorry But by antispam_ben · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This has nothing to do with the accuracy of the breathalyzer and everything to do with the sleazy practices of DUI defense attorneys.

    An attorney is the last defense between a defendant and The Government, which can, at the point of a gun, take away one's money, freedom or even life. It should be plainly obvious that The Government is much more powerful than the individual, and so it is vitally important that the individual be allowed a representative who will point out when The Government doesn't have an i dotted or a t crossed. Having a defense attorney that gets his client off on "a technicality" is the best way to insure that the government will do ITS job properly, fairly and fully, rather than putting someone in prison unjustly.

    Let me assure you I'm not happy with drunk drivers or any lawbreaker getting off, but it would be much worse for an innocent person to be found guilty.

    I once inherited a "simple" project, a pressure transducer with microcontroller that gave readings to a 'main' computer in decimal. While testing it I noticed that readings were sometimes way off. There was a bug in the binary to decimal conversion routine that causes about a 10 percent error in 1 out of about every 50 values (I recall it was an odd little table lookup thing).

    So these days it DOES happen, and with bugs in "simple" devices perhaps moreso than ever, a "simple device" CAN be very wrong, and in this case it could cause the defendant a large fine, loss of license or even a jail term even though he may have actually below the legal limit.

    You may argue that the legal limit for DUI alcohol tests is too high and should be lowered (further than has been done in recent decades), and there's probably a good argument for that (based on the punishment and very low drunk driving rates in some European contries), but again, this is a different matter than properly enforcing the current law.

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  12. "Convince me" by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Years ago, I was working as a test engineer on a finished product that incorporated a dual-CPU, shared memory design. I was talking to the DUT (Device Under Test) through a serial interface on a (as I recall) 6809, which did the basic control, while a 680x0 (or something similar) did the heavy lifting. I had previously written a "C" standard test API for a single-CPU test interface, which the 6809 implemented in assembly, but large portions of this units functionality were on the 680x0 side of the PC board. Not knowing the 680x0 assembly language, and not having the time, I ended up looking one of the 680x0 device engineers (God, she hated me, but that's another story) in the eye, and saying "Convince me that your stuff does what you say it does...".

    I've never forgotten that lesson. If I know what algorithms are, and how they work, and what a particular language can (and can't) do, I can certify a project, based on the look on the programmer's eye when they answer The Questions.

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  13. Re:Sorry But by Pedersen · · Score: 4, Insightful
    If the accuracy of the machine can be demonstrated why is anyone entitled to the source as part of a criminal trial?

    Because the accuracy of the machine can only be demonstrated with the test data that is available. While this should be very close to reality, we have no way of verifying that the test data chosen is relevant to the case of the person on trial. With the source code, we can verify the implementation, and make sure that that implementation will accurately reflect on the defendant.



    Put another way: This software is only slightly less critical than the software which is used in the space program. There, people die. In this case, lives can be destroyed by a wrongful conviction. At least if you die, your problems are over and done with. Now, what if a particular test case was missed? How would you know? Even worse, what if THAT test case shows that one in every 10 readings will be wildly inaccurate? Without the source code, what chance do you have of proving this?

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  14. Re:Calibration by TheMohel · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've built medical devices before. This is in essence a medical device. If this were being used in a medical laboratory for medical purposes, source code changes which were not properly recertified would void the FDA approval for the device. There's a reason for that.

    It's a truism in software that you can't verify the absence of bugs by black-box testing, no matter how complete the test vectors. This is doubly true when the software is interacting with the real world, in a nontrivial manner.

    Consider: The device undoubtedly measures a change in itself that occurs in response to the presence of ethanol. A voltage is produced, a current is seen, or a color change occurs in some sensitized material. Some chemical reaction occurs, and produces a detectable change in the device state. But because chemical reactions are susceptible to variation in temperature, in the age of the reagents, in the particular lot of the reagents, and in subtle machine-to-machine differences between reaction sites, the software for the machine must contain built-in adjustments for all of this. If you have a half-dozen linear adjustments that you have to make (not uncommon, in laboratory equipment), the six-dimensional test vectors that you have to check are massive. If you have a dozen such factors, you literally can't test enough combinations to be sure that every combination works. And even worse, you have to verify that the machine is in a known state at the beginning of such a test, and without access to the source you have no way of knowing.

    The question isn't whether the machine can be made to work in a laboratory setting. The question is whether the machine worked this time, in the middle of the night, in an un-airconditioned drunk tank in God-knows-where, as the thirty-fifth breath test that night. If you don't have the source code, you literally can't possibly know what the chances are that it really worked.

    As much as I hate drunk drivers, and as much as I think that the machines are probably pretty good, I'm with the defense attorneys here: produce the source, or stop pretending that this machine can produce proof beyond reasonable doubt.