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VMWare Inc. Releases Free Virtual Machine Runtime

rfinnvik writes "VMWare Inc. has released a new free (as in beer) virtual machine runtime called VMware Player. According to VMWare, this free VM runtime makes it possible for anyone to run virtual machines created in their Workstation, GSX or ESX products. It also runs virtual machines created in Microsoft's virtualization products. The runtime is available for both Windows and Linux."

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  1. see, now I'm gonna try linux.. by way2trivial · · Score: 2, Funny

    why- cause it really WONT cost me anything to try...

    Just pray I'm a vocal member of a new majority...

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    1. Re:see, now I'm gonna try linux.. by Nik13 · · Score: 2, Informative

      No need for VMWare for that really. Knoppix is pretty good, and you can even find versions of it that come with QEMU. No need to install anything.

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    2. Re:see, now I'm gonna try linux.. by Chasuk · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm using the VMware Player to browse Slashdot, RIGHT now, with something called the "Browser Appliance," which I also downloaded from their site. "Browser Appliance" consists of a version of Ubuntu and Firefox 1.0.7. It works slicker than shit, with almost zero system degradation.

      I'm impressed!

    3. Re:see, now I'm gonna try linux.. by tommy_traceroute · · Score: 4, Informative

      Is QEMU usably fast?

      Depends on your definition of "usably."

      I've got a USB stick with Damn Small Linux installed, both bootable and through QEMU, and it's screamin' fast when booted direct, but barely manageable on an Athlon 2500+ under QEMU. If you do most of your work from a terminal, it's fine, but the GUI, not so much.

      So, answer = not really, but it's still damn cool.

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    4. Re:see, now I'm gonna try linux.. by afidel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Set it's virtual root partition to a path under your main OS. That way changes to preferences can be saved along with data files, but the application and guest os are freshly loaded each time and seperated from the host os and its applications. This will actually work nicely for me. My boss had told me that I am not allowed to install Firefox when I get my next new PC so that I match the corporate desktop when I do application upgrade testing, now I can just download a Linux distro and run it under VMWare =)

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  2. Re:this does what? by bhtooefr · · Score: 2, Informative

    Basically, have you seen how there's a QEMU image of ReactOS, and I'm sure other OSes have QEMU and Bochs images?

    Well, this means that they can now use a VMWare image, and link to the VMWare Player.

  3. Existing virtual machines? by eMartin · · Score: 4, Informative

    AFAIK, the existing virtual machines really just consist of a simple plain text file that describes the machine, and a disk image that can be one created by VMWare or another text file that points to a "standard" image file type.

    So, does this mean that if I create those files myself, I don't need the commercial products at all?

    1. Re:Existing virtual machines? by RLiegh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As far as I'm aware, there is nothing out there which can create (Bochs and Qemu can read) VMWare disk images, and they're more advanced than simple raw or dd-created files with filesystems slapped onto them.

    2. Re:Existing virtual machines? by yeremein · · Score: 5, Informative

      As far as I'm aware, there is nothing out there which can create (Bochs and Qemu can read) VMWare disk images, and they're more advanced than simple raw or dd-created files with filesystems slapped onto them.

      Actually, if you create a "pre-allocated" virtual disk (as opposed to dynamically growing), you'll end up with a text file "something.vmdk" that provides disk geometry and points at a raw bit dump "something-flat.vmdk". VMware (Workstation 5.0, anyway) can use an existing dd dump if you create a .vmdk file that refers to it. I've done this several times.

    3. Re:Existing virtual machines? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      I have a tutorial with some details up at:

      http://www.laportestyle.org/tutorials/ghostinthema chine.php

    4. Re:Existing virtual machines? by mvdw · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Whatever their format, is there something in the VMWare license that says you can't share them? Because if it's possible to share them, then someone with a valid copy of VMWare (or even, dare I say it, an evaluation version), can create a whole bunch-o-images, and the rest of the world can benefit.

    5. Re:Existing virtual machines? by kju · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Just use this to create an empty vmdk-file. Boot virtual machine from CD-ROM and install OS.

    6. Re:Existing virtual machines? by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 4, Informative
      This looked great, but the verbage on the web site is a little misleading. I downloaded and installed it thinking "Great! Now I can load up those MS Virtual PC Images I've been using for testing (and supporting those legacy VB6/Access applications), and I don't have to boot to Windows anymore!"

      When it didn't work, I had to dig around the site, eventually downloading the "VMwarePlayerManual10" PDF file, where on page 3 I found:

      Microsoft Virtual PC and Virtual Server Virtual Machines (Windows Hosts Only) On Windows hosts, VMware Player can run Microsoft Virtual PC and Virtual Server virual machines. When you open a Virtual PC virtual machine in VMware Player, it automatically creates a VMware-compatible configuration file (.vmx), while preserving the original Virtual PC (.vmc) configuration file. You can save the VMware-compatible virtual machine.

      But can I then load up the VMX in the Linux version of the player? It doesn't seem to like it very much - I guess it just doesn't work.

      Crap! I guess I have to plunk down some $ and re-create thost images in VMWare if I want to do that - easier just to keep booting into windows - it takes hours to install and configure Windows on a new virtual machine...

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    7. Re:Existing virtual machines? by Decker-Mage · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nope, nothing in the EULA for VMWare Workstation to prevent you from sharing/distributing images and I've read that sucker each and every time we do another beta/release candidate (mostly to catch typos). You're supposed to stockpile these puppies if you need them so you have a stack of testing platforms. Now I'd be real careful about Microsoft EULA's, but those are supposed to be modified here shortly, if they haven't been already.

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  4. This could be very cool for demoing Linux apps by multiplexo · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Right now you have live CDs that you can boot from to run Linux on a Windows machine without touching the hard drive, but you then have to reboot the machine into Windows to run your Doze stuff, now you could run Linux apps in your Windows environment. Another cool application might be a virtual machine that runs your browser and another one that runs your e-mail, get a virus? Not a problem, it's isolated in the virtual sandbox. I haven't worked with vmWare in a long time, how does the performance stack up these days? I might have to get a copy and play around with this.

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    1. Re:This could be very cool for demoing Linux apps by cerelib · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you check out their prepackaged virtual machines you will see one called "Browser Appliance". I think it is essentially a sandbox machine that just runs a browser isolated from your host OS.

    2. Re:This could be very cool for demoing Linux apps by jdray · · Score: 2, Interesting

      How about that I could create a Windows image here at work where we use VMWare (Windows on Windows) and take it home where I would use this free tool that runs on Linux to run occasional Windows apps (Visio or TurboTax)...?

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    3. Re:This could be very cool for demoing Linux apps by way2trivial · · Score: 3, Insightful

      pfft.. think, limited time trials of EXPENSIVE apps,, that you can 'roll back' to the original date

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    4. Re:This could be very cool for demoing Linux apps by Trigun · · Score: 3, Funny

      This would be perfect for my office. In fact the only thing better would be if I could get virtual employees. Causing problems? No problem, just load another secretary image.

    5. Re:This could be very cool for demoing Linux apps by notb4dinner · · Score: 4, Insightful

      By doing that you're still breaking the license agreement so it's really no better than pirating them.

  5. Gee, that's nice. by RLiegh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    However, given the compatibility problems with previous versions of VMWare I am not sure how much use it will be to people who download Open Source VMs off of the web to run (and I assume that's part of who this is aimed at). I've read a couple of places, for instance, that the current version of VMWare won't run the VMWare installation of Plan 9 that you can download from Bell Labs.

    That said, you can run Qemu with kernel acceleration on Linux, FreeBSD (a platform VMWare doesn't even support) and 2000/XP and get pretty good performance - and it's probably a better option than a mere 'runtime' given that not only does it support an additional platform (FreeBSD), but you can create a VM on one platform and run it on all the others (even ones w/out accerlation, such as NetBSD -though you really would not want to).

  6. Response to new alternatives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Anything free out of VMWare these days seems more like a response to free competitors like QEMU (or it's faster virtualization form KQEMU) than anything else.

    Still, in the time between QEMU catches up to VMWare feature-wise it's nice to have a legal-but-hobbled copy.

    1. Re:Response to new alternatives by tylernt · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There is a GPL re-implementation of KQEMU called QVM86 or something like that. Still alpha-quality, though.

      And to be honest, I generally see *no* performance improvement with KQEMU loaded vs. not loaded. A bug I'm sure, but it's been there for at least the last two versions. Anyway, sometimes I get bluescreens with KQEMU loaded, so I just don't bother. At least QEMU is faster than Bochs.

      QEMU is pretty good for what it is, considering the price. Win2k runs acceptably fast, though of course XP and 2003 are dog slow. However the QEMU UI is dreadful (command line based) and the networking setup is arcane and poorly documented compared to VMWare though. Fortunately there are add-on UIs for QEMU to address one of those issues, and for the other I just stuck eth0 in a bridge and hacked the QEMU network script to create tun/tap devices and insert them into my bridge automatically. If those two things were addressed out-of-the-box, QEMU would be a much more polished product. Fast? No, but it gets the job done.

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  7. Wondering by umbrellasd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Has anyone had luck with running VMWare on Linux and using a virtual machine to play Windows games? I play two online games and they are the only reason that I use Windows as my primary operating system. Not familiar with the performance concerns, but it looks like I could prepare a Windows gaming VM and run it when I game, and then work on other tasks in my preferred Linux environment. Googling...

    1. Re:Wondering by richmaine · · Score: 2, Informative

      Games and emulation just don't go together. That applies to pretty much all kinds of emulation - VMWare, Virtual PC, whatever. Games just tend to require performance that emulation can't deliver. Plus games are often picky about hardware such as video cards.

      Of course, this overgeneralizes. If you have some text-based game, or even a graphics one old enough to not strain current hardware, then maybe. But generally speaking, assume that games won't work acceptably.

      I've used VMWare (though it has been a while). It worked fine for my technical applications. Allowed me to run Windows compilers and make Windows executables of my programs for ussers that wanted such. But forget games.

    2. Re:Wondering by Tiny+Elvis · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I had an old game (magic the gathering) that ran on Win 98. I had problems running it on win 2k mainly due to the fact it would run too fast and was unplayable. I heard running in under 98 made it run the proper speed so I setup a Win 98 VMWARE instance to play it. As the others replying have said, you can forget running anything that requires 3d. It makes a great sandbox to test other stuff in though.

  8. Or you could download Ubuntu by Solr_Flare · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Unbuntu has two different versions. One is an install CD, the other is a run CD that lets you launch linux from disc without installing anything. Now, of course, the CD version is going to be more limited, but given that you can read/write fat32 and network NTFS(and read local NTFS) you can still do a decent bit with it. It's not bad at all if you just want to give linux a whirl and see what it is all about/teach yourself how to use some aspects of linux.

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  9. Excellent for "black sheep" corporate Linux users. by GiMP · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Need to run Linux at work but corporate policy won't let you? (or plan to install Linux anyway, but need that killer-app for Windows?)... Boss won't buy you a copy of VMWare?

    Buy your own copy for personal use and simply install this "player" on your work PC. Need multiple users wanting to emulate an OS and don't have terribly high demands? One copy of vmware... multiple players.

    I'm drooling.

  10. Re:Soft bigotry of "Inc." suffix? by kebes · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think they wrote "VMWare Inc." rather than "VMWare" to avoid confusion... because alot of people, when they hear "VMWare" will think of the application/product, and not the company. Yes, I know that it would be hard for a product to release another product, but still. The "Inc." qualifier was just thrown in to make it obvious that they were talking about the company.

  11. Re:Soft bigotry of "Inc." suffix? by croddy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I suppose this is only a problem if you're already bigoted against anything "Inc."

  12. USB adapters... by Gopal.V · · Score: 3, Informative

    So far, no virtualization systems I've used has ever supported dynamic USB support.

    I wonder what kernels their Linux player supports usb support. I assume it will be something like FC4 or RHEL ?.

    Can someone who has downloaded tell me how the usb hotplugging works for you ?.

    1. Re:USB adapters... by dougnet · · Score: 3, Informative

      I work for a large company and we have a number of VMWare Workstation licenses. I downloaded the vmplayer today and used my existing VMWare workstation image with it (W2K image on Linux host). It started up fine. I then plugged the USB connector for my Kyocera 7135 Palm phone into my Linux system and hit the hotsync button. A "button" appeared accross the menu bar of the VMWare window with the title of the USB device (something like "Kyocera phone"). I could click on the botton to toggle as to whether or not VMWare was "connected" to the device so the guest OS could use it. What I don't remember is if the focus of the window determines whether or not it initially shows up as attached or disconnected. I believe the first time I did it, the hot sync with my phone started automatically. The second time I did it, I had to click on the soft botton on the menu bar to attach to the USB device. This may have been the result of my window focus at the time I hit the hot sync button.

  13. Another option by technoid_ · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you dont want to figure out what is missing with the VMware offering, Parallels is offering 60 day trial licenses for its Parallels Workstation 2.0 Beta3. Check out www.parallels.com

    Disclaimer: i have no affiliation to Parallels, I have just been trying out the product.

    technoid_

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  14. Re:this does what? by JamesTRexx · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not just the VMWare images, but (more interesting for our company) also Virtual PC/Server images.
    At least, that's what they claim. Tested the player with VPC and VServer images, but they all stop with an error in the log about importing something into the registry which is not in registry format. But then again it's still in beta.

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  15. VM Machine Building For Free by nurb432 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You can get a free 30 day license from VMware for their regular product.

    Make as many VM's you want and when it expires you can still use the 'runtime' thing.

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    1. Re:VM Machine Building For Free by pegr · · Score: 2, Informative

      At that point you might as well save yourself the trouble and pirate the damn thing
       
      Actually, if you get on their mailing list, they will invite you to one of their half-day pep rallies and give you a free copy of Workstation...

    2. Re:VM Machine Building For Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      # apt-get install datefudge

      $ dafefudge 01/01/2001 vmware &

      Using it for months...

  16. As long as you don't expect 3D accel. by khasim · · Score: 2, Informative

    The video card it emulates is pretty low end. It's acceptable for the old SimCity games (I've tried them) but not for any modern shooter.

    There is also the problem where you're still sharing your CPU with the virtual machine so you may experience pauses in the game. Not really noticable with strategy and turn based games, but it may be a problem with shooters.

    The good news is that you can load up different Windows versions for different games (you do still have the licenses, right?). So you can run Win95 or Win98 or Win2K or WinXP if you want.

    DOS works okay for most games, but the VMWare sound emulation doesn't match any of the old 1980's-era games that I tried.

  17. Xen is not a competitor to VMWare by McSpew · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sounds like they are feeling pressure from Xen and are trying to prevent the truely free OSS solution from gaining mindshare. They make a good product, but cost and closed source will limit them in the long run.

    Xen is not a competitor to VMWare, at least, not right now, it isn't. Xen requires the guest OS to be built with explicit support for Xen. VMWare doesn't require that. Xen can't run any build of Windows or NetWare, but VMWare can.

    It's clear that this product is a shot across Microsoft's bow. Ever since MS bought Connectix, they've been gunning for VMWare. Those who've tried both VirtualPC and VMWare Workstation have almost universally preferred VMWare Workstation (I haven't tried VirtualPC, but VMWare Workstation rocks), but VirtualPC is still cheaper than VMWare ($129 vs. $199). VMWare has also recently announced that it's hoping to standardize the virtual machine software industry around common VM file formats (VMWare's, of course). If, by using a free VMWare Player, they can get everybody else to adopt their VM formats, they'll have won that war before MS can even get into the battle.

    This doesn't really cannibalize sales of VMWare Workstation, even if others figure out how to create VMWare-compatible VMs from other applications, because those of us who use VMWare Workstation like all of its features (and there are lots). What it really does is seed the market for VMWare's real money makers--GSX Server and ESX Server. MS has nothing close to those products right now, and VMWare's hoping to permanently establish themselves as the market leaders before MS can get a comparable product on the market.

    1. Re:Xen is not a competitor to VMWare by bhtooefr · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, here's an MS VPC fan.

      I'll admit, I haven't played with VMWare WS5.

      VPC is also slower, from what I've seen.

      However, VPC emulates more standard hardware that OSes (especially old ones) support out of the box. Important when you're playing with an old OS, and you need driver support.

    2. Re:Xen is not a competitor to VMWare by Turtle+Master · · Score: 4, Informative
      Xen requires the guest OS to be built with explicit support for Xen. VMWare doesn't require that. Xen can't run any build of Windows or NetWare, but VMWare can.

      You haven't been paying attention. Xen will soon be able to run any build of pretty much anything on new "VT-enabled" hardware from intel. http://www.xensource.com/news/pr082305.html

    3. Re:Xen is not a competitor to VMWare by Rich0 · · Score: 2, Informative

      In my experience custom-building isn't a big deal. You just run the config program, and it notes that it doesn't have a compatible kernel module handy, and asks you if you want to build one. As long as you have your kernel sources installed it just builds the module and runs it, and it usually doesn't take much effort. Then you just rerun the config program any time you install a new kernel.

      If you're willing to use vmware on linux I doubt the kernel module will slow you down much...

    4. Re:Xen is not a competitor to VMWare by Lucractius · · Score: 2, Informative

      Dont forget AMD are building their own hardware virtualisation support as well and it'll be out at about the same time, Xen will be supporting this too :)

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  18. osx86 by minus_273 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ha now that osx86 installation vmware image you downloaded can run on a leagal copy of vmware!

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    1. Re:osx86 by Macka · · Score: 2, Interesting


      Actually I'm hoping that VMware will port their products to the new osx86 when it ships. I'd love to have the choice to run Linux & Windows in VMware on my first x86 Apple Mac when I get one.

  19. And in other news... by williamyf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Microsoft Released Word, Excel, Powerpoint and Visio viewers. meanwhile lotus released a viewer for Freelance Graphics.

    Now, on a more serious note, This is cool, the "Player" is far more complicated than any viewer/player out there, and the uses for the thing are intriguing. From the Web Page of VMware, collages can work on a support case and all share the same one in a VM, or you can demo apps in the confort of the VM. The page even points to VMs made available by IBM, oracle and others. Of course, question is, What is the Status of the SW that you run in the VMs, including the OS itself? In the case of FOSS, we know the answer, but in other cases, just watc out guys.

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  20. Wish they'd finally support OS/2 as well... by D4C5CE · · Score: 2, Interesting
    ...especially as many banks would certainly want to pay for the privilege of getting another few years out of their legacy apps on that platform.

    Other than the lack of OS/2 support, however, VMWare does not seem to have any other important shortcomings, now that the free player allows to "clone and ship entire virtual machines" e.g. for the hassle-free demo and deployment of FOSS solutions.

    Besides, it's a blessing for many computer classrooms, helping in particular to make them less Microsoft-centric and saving much time for administration at the same time...

  21. Browser Appliance password by BushCheney08 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Downloaded the player and their browser appliance image. Anyone know what the root password for the browser appliance is? [BTW, it's a very stripped down Ubuntu install, with Firefox, GAIM, BitTorrent, and a Terminal Server Client]

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    1. Re:Browser Appliance password by chungo-nzx · · Score: 2, Informative

      The browser appliance starts you as the vmware user. The vmware user has sudo permissions. The vmware password is "vmware" i.e. to get to root - Open the terminal - enter "sudo passwd root" - Type the vmware password (i.e. "vmware") - Type in the new root password - Sorted !

  22. Browser Appliance from USB key by www-xenu-dot-net · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Does this mean what I think it means...I can run their Browser Appliance from a USB Key for free? That would be awesome....!!!

  23. A posting from VMWorld by dosguru · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Player has a lot of positive buzz right now here, as soon as we all get back home they'll be thousands of player installs all over North America. This is the product I've been hoping for to help demo products for external customers, and allow internal clients to use VMs without having to pay extra money or allow them to change things.

    Xen who? It's not even on the radar here. Nothing against Xen, but it is years behind WS5 or ESX3.

    Microsoft has been here giving away Virtual Server 2005 with a free R2 update. I have 4 copies of it and I have no idea what to do with any of them. MS was presenting today how they plan to integrate Virtual Server directly into Longhorn. How long with VMWare count MS as a partner instead of as their primary threat?

    ESX 3.0 looks sweet, lots of new features. AMD, IBM, HP, and Sun have also been showing off their newest and greatest hardware for running ESX farms.

  24. Create Marketing Buzz by phorest · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Funny,

    I was at a Microsoft event last month where the presenter was really talking up Microsoft® Virtual PC 2004 as being the cats meow. He actually spent 10 minutes out of the 3hr+ technet program to hawk it.

    So..... I went to look it up after seeing the story posted (No, I didn't RTFA) but they had links to download a free 45 day trial and the listed price was ($129.00 MSRP) for the software title. So then I went to VMWare Inc's site to compare products and darn it if MS is undercutting their price by $60.00 ($189.00 MSRP)for their VMware Workstation 5.

    Call me cynical but it smells like a little competitive marketing!

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  25. Not entirely accurate by WindBourne · · Score: 2, Interesting

    VmWare is feeling a lot of heat from a lot of areas. If you think that Xen is causing VmWare no heat, then you are sadly mistaken. Linux/bsd on xen runs with much less performace penalty than vmware. In addition, there will be shortly, a way to run MS in it, but with a performance penalty. That means, for the occiasional user of windows, this is perfect, and quite a bit cheaper. So yes, xen is very much a competitor to VmWare

    Of course, if you are running lots of windows, then Conenctix will be shortly the prefered approach. I would be sutprised if MS does not include connectix for free with all their windows.

    So if you run Linux and Xen is bundled automatically, you would pay for VmWare, why? Likewise, if you run Windows, and Connectix is bundled for free, you would use Vmware why?

    Sad to say, I am guessing that VmWare is likely to be netscaped.

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    1. Re:Not entirely accurate by DaHat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'll try to answer your generic question of:

      If you run X and it comes with Y, why would you use/buy Z?

      In one fell swoop...

      Because Z is leaps and bounds better than Y!

      Why don't Windows users buy Photoshop or Paintshop Pro when MS Paint came for free?!?! Why do Windows users download FireFox when they already have IE? Why buy or use MS Word when you have notepad AND wordpad for free?!?!?!

  26. Re:feeling pressure from xen by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Sounds like they are feeling pressure from Xen and are trying to prevent the truely free OSS solution from gaining mindshare. They make a good product, but cost and closed source will limit them in the long run."

    I really don't want to be a smart *ss, but whenever I read these sorts of comments here on /. I wonder "just what alternate universe are these people living in?"

    I doubt most of the corporate types at VMware know that Xen even exists - let alone sees it as any sort of "competition".

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  27. Re:So, can someone upload a blank virtual machine? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Here you go!!! (I hacked VMware's website and put this up just so you could get a free VM. Power to the people. H@x0r 73h p1@n37.

  28. Huh? by Gadren · · Score: 3, Funny

    People BUY VMWare? O_o

  29. Re:This is cool by jtstowell · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not only that, but it works!

    I'm posting this from FireFox 1.0.7 running on Windows 95 4.00.950 (heh. it was on a bet... and the smallest image I had lying around) from within a VMware Player instance running on Suse Linux 9.3 Pro. At 1024x768 resolution with good graphics.

    Had a little trouble with compiling the VMware kernel modules, but it was a quick fix.

    Oh, and my mouse wheel doesn't work... :-)

    Tom

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  30. Show us! by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    just load another secretary image

    Can we see some samples?

  31. Re:Use of Virtual Machines for 16-bit OSes by not-my-real-name · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wow! I am simply in awe.

    Somebody went through a lot of effort to type that in. I'll have to save it in case I need to impress some non-technical people.

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  32. "is" != "will soon" by TimMann · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's always tough for the present to compete with the glorious future.

  33. Virtual PC files don't work at all by assassinator42 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Virtual PC files don't even work on Windows. Well, Virtual PC 2004 files on Windows XP home to be specific. It gets half way through importing the virtual machine, then says it could not be opened. I tried with a dynamic hard drive, no hard drive, and a fixed size hard drive. Same thing every time. I'm not sure why it says it can open vmc files, because apparently it can not.

  34. _Very_ good move by VMWare by imemyself · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've used VMWare(Workstation and GSX) a lot for the last couple of years. I use VMware Workstation daily on my desktop at home. I have maybe 30 or so VM's(versions of Linux, Windows, Solaris, FreeBSD, Netware, and OS X). I run Netware and Windows Sever in GSX on RHEL4. I couldn't live without VMware. Novell has recently started distributing some of their eval stuff via VMware images, I think Oracle has as well. I'm assuming that VMware is doing this to encourage other companies to start doing similar things. It's really a pretty neat idea, testing/learning about different OS's and software through VMware. I have also used Virtual PC, and I must say that VMware is much, much better that Virtual PC. The only think I use VPC for is to occasionally screw around in OS/2, and I'm probably going to try and install that in VMware sooner or later. I'll admit I haven't used Xen, but for me the best thing about VMware is that I can run different OS's. I don't think running Linux-on-Linux is nearly as amazing or revolutionary as running Netware-on-Linux, or Solaris-on-Windows, etc. I think that VMware Workstation 5.5(currently in beta I think, I've not tried it though), will supposely run x86_64 guests, on x86_64 hosts. VMware seems to be really moving forward a lot, each new release seems to add something that I will actually use unlike a lot of other software. I only wish they would offer updates to GSX a litte often. Right now GSX won't work with VMware Workstation 5 VM's(which support multiple snapshots). VMware Workstation 5 will run 4.5 style VM's, but you cannot use snapshots. Other than that, I can't say there's anything I don't like about VMware. And no, I don't work for them, nor am I in any way associated with them. Just a very, very, happy customer.

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  35. Re:Small to Mid IT Folks - Is this a holy grail? by Decker-Mage · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Actually I've been using VMWare Workstation version 2.0x for this purpose for years. I like to keep an eye on the dark-side so when I cruise their boards I have always used a VM to do it from. Anytime they glitch/hack/crack the VM, I would just restore from the snapshot. I'd also work this way anytime I was operating unprotected out their due to a 0-day security hole (Windows or *nix) so I could get my patches, tuck them into my shared folder, get safe again. Heck, I was running DC's on VMWare long before MS decided it was a bright idea. Crack my DC? Fine, restore from snapshot and off I go, after I patch of course

    So, for a security standpoint, yes you can do this and I'd highly recommend it. Heck, security would be what I consider a natural market for this product as testers need something a bit more robust. VMWare must think the same given the Browser Alternative image that exists. Nice to see someone else thinking security first.

    BTW, the way I'd approach it is to place a known good copy of whatever image you are going to use in a safe place, or burn it to CD, just remember to change permissions when you copy it off the CD to remove the write-protect (depending on how you copy it). Whenever the image gets totally wacked, which it will, restore from the copy. You'll lose any settings/bookmarks/cookies/etc., but this may be considered a good thing. Also do remember that there is the potential, since the VM will be sharing the connection in some way with the machine to have a worm crawl out of the VM and climb into the host OS. Small, but it is there. The way I solve this problem is to block all the ports between the VM and the Host on the host side, using a software firewall just on that adapter if you are running Windows in a VM on Windows. Windows on *nix, don't worry about it as hybrids haven't been successful (yet). Not perfect but if you don't have a separate machine to set up just for browsing that can be restored from image daily/hourly/whenever, this is about the next best thing.

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  36. Re:what is the ubuntu root password by moro_666 · · Score: 2, Informative

    at first you are offtopic my friend
    but still i wont leave you in the struggle

    #shell$ sudo /bin/bash
    Password: /// not the root password here, YOUR PASSWORD

    #root@yourhost$ passwd
    Enter new UNIX password: xxx
    Retype new UNIX password: xxx

    there you go ....

    smack baby smack ...

    ### smth for the the topic too

    vmware is being slashdotted, and being slashdotted hard ...

    can anyone provide cached links for some web cached page and can somebody please put out a gentoo image for vmware please ?

    thnx a lot in advance

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