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Ancient Greek Computer Reconstructed

afaik_ianal writes "A working reconstruction of an ancient Greek computer, the Antikythera mechanism, which was found at the bottom of the ocean in 1900 has been unveiled and is on display at the Technopolis museum, in Athens. The device is believed to have been used to calculate the positions of various celestial bodies including the sun and the moon on any given date. While some guesswork was required in the reconstruction, the bulk of the design is based on updated X-ray photographs of the device."

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  1. First Greek Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Alpha and the Omega and all that.

    1. Re:First Greek Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yet another redundant moderation for the first post on a discussion? Where did the mods go to school? Greece?

    2. Re:First Greek Post by rlanctot · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just imagine, a Beowulf cluster of these... er, wait. Was Beowulf written at that time? Dammit!

    3. Re:First Greek Post by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just imagine a phalanx of these!

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    4. Re:First Greek Post by identity0 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Apparently, they did build a Illiad cluster of these, but it got Trojaned and 0wn3d.

      They are now trying to build a Minotaur cluster with them, and using the Labrynth Firewall system to protect it.

    5. Re:First Greek Post by aamcf · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's nothing. I just got a *helpful* person when I rang my credit card company's help line!

    6. Re:First Greek Post by Eric+Giguere · · Score: 2, Funny

      Funny, I didn't think the DEC Alpha had such a long history.

      Eric
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    7. Re:First Greek Post by WilliamSChips · · Score: 5, Funny

      I know this is a really bad pun, but oh well.
      +1, Greeky
      You can kill me now.

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  2. But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does it run Linux?

    1. Re:But by toupsie · · Score: 3, Funny

      or support Ogg Vorbis?

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    2. Re:But by MiKM · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, but a NetBSD port is nearing completion.

    3. Re:But by Lillesvin · · Score: 5, Funny

      Apparently, yes... "Spyridon Stais noticed that one of the pieces of rock had a gear wheel embedded in it." (from wikipedia).

      That's KDE, baby! :-p

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    4. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Does it run Linux?

      No, but there is a Troyan Horse already.

    5. Re:But by appleLaserWriter · · Score: 3, Funny

      Does it run Linux?

      Well, the ship crashed, so we can easily surmise that it ran an ancient form of Windows. Perhaps even Windows 3.0. However, the ship must have been part of a trading network, so it could have had Windows 3.11 for workgroups.

    6. Re:But by laffer1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, I suspect it was Microsoft Windows Age of Mythology edition.

  3. Doesn't anyone remember ... by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... the clockwork owl in Clash of the Titans?

    Clearly the ancient Greeks had mechanical technology beyond even modern capabilities!

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  4. and was used by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    for watching ancient Greek porn.

  5. Actually... by Evil+Butters · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...which was found at the bottom of the ocean in 1900...

    Actually, it was found in 2000. Just that no one thought to correct for Y2K problems!

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  6. Presenting the device by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "While some guesswork was required in the reconstruction, the bulk of the design is based on updated X-ray photographs of the device."

    Reporter: So what do you think the device is for?
    Archaeologist: Well we can't be entirely sure, but if you look at this X-Ray you can see what appears to be a cup-holder.

  7. Re:listen by nekoes · · Score: 4, Funny

    Greek computers have the fastest processors. No shit. I read it on slashdot.

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  8. I bet it ran Windows, Millenium Edition no less by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    That old, if you extrapolate Moore's law backwards it just had to be a two-bit computer....

  9. Re:At least a 100 years ago. by ludomancer · · Score: 4, Funny

    You saw this thing on the Discovery channel in 1905? Clearly your Clockwork Greek Television was ahead of it's time!

  10. this just in by coredump-0x00001 · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Linux kernel has been successfully ported to the Antikythera mechanism, The highly distilled version of the kernel reportedly can boot in under 160 years and the process also effectively builds large amounts of forearm muscle in the process. Linuxworld.com calls it the perfect marrige between grassroot technological history and modern innovation, Steve Jobbs is currently preparing to manufacture a mini version of the Antikythera mechanism which will eventually make it's way into every Apple product. Microsoft has called the Antikythera mechanism the most astonishing technologinal innovation the world and microsoft have ever seen, Bill Gates said in an interview, "It's changing the way we have looked at computer technology completely, throughout the entire reign of microsoft we have never even considered this master-designed technology!"

    1. Re:this just in by ozmanjusri · · Score: 4, Funny

      Microsoft has called the Antikythera mechanism the most astonishing technologinal innovation the world and microsoft have ever seen

      The Antikythera mechanism is *not* user friendly, and until it is Antikythera will stay with >1% marketshare.

      Take installation. Antikythera zealots are now saying "oh installing is so easy, just do hammer-dowel install package or hit package": Yes, because hitting with "hammer" makes so much more sense to new users than double-whipping a slave that does "setups".

      Antikythera zealots are far too forgiving when judging the difficultly of Antikythera configuration issues and far too harsh when judging the difficulty of slave storage issues. Example comments:

      User: "How do I get Quake 0.03 to run in Antikythera?" Zealot: "Oh that's easy! If you have Redtoga, you have to smelt quake_3_rh_8_i686_010203_glibc.tin, then do chmod +x with a file.....

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  11. This proves that... by chris_eineke · · Score: 4, Funny

    the greeks were geeks. :P

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  12. Beware of geeks bearing gifts... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    How long before someone writes a Trojan horse for it?

  13. My computer's just a glorified watch too... by Errandboy+of+Doom · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, I also use it to read /. But the watch part is far more productive.

  14. Re:They don't build them like they used to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Anyone place odds on...monstrosities from the 70's on surviving thousands of years and people figuring out what they were used for?
    Sadly, disco lives.

    Additionally, unless there is some global cataclysm, clients will continue using their POS big iron (and not just to heat certain rooms or throw confounded tape I/O errors, baffling modern man).
  15. Other Greek versions of the Antikythera mechanism by macshune · · Score: 5, Funny

    If the Antikythera mechanism was made by different outfits in ancient Greece:

    Apollo: The mechanism would be highly polished in a mahogany box with an observation window that would crack due to poor workmanship and high profit margins. Device only works within a 10 sq. mile area around Athens. Anywhere else and it's off.

    Microsofticus: The mechanism would be essentially the same as the original, except some planets would be in different locations for 'efficiency' and 'because it runs faster that way.' Pebbles would bounce into the device via conspicuous holes and users would have to purchase a security contract from Symanticus. Not recorded in historical literature because nobody knew how it worked. Re-assembly from rusty bits required legions of scientists.

    Zeus Microsystems: The mechanism would be painted purple and lilac and probably have some confetti around a highly stylized Sun logo on the outside. Giant purple globe in center of device would confound scientists for decades. Works, but gets slower with every passing decade, even though the underlying architecture is salvagable.

    Linux Maximus: Device was buried with engineering diagrams in air-tight, humidity-controlled box at Delphi. Instructions for re-assembly (which it doesn't need) are also recorded within the device itself in every language known at the time as well as with pictures. Does what it needs to do and little else. Also, device was heavily cited in the historical literature and anyone was free to build one as long as they had access to commmodity blacksmith parts. Can be modified to suit different galactic locations, as well, with little effort.

    Hewletticus-Packardus: Originally a papyrus-ink outfit, H.P., decided to get into the astronomy business because its archon, Sappho, wanted to. Ended up building poor version and purchased Compacticus to try and fix things. Didn't happen and Sappho went to Lesbos to become a poet with a zillion Drachma severence pay and H.P. just had to deal.

  16. Those pirates... by cammoblammo · · Score: 2, Funny

    So they've copied a several thousand year old computer, software and hardware. Surely there's a lawsuit there somewhere.

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  17. Re:yeah but... by musakko · · Score: 2, Funny
    does it run apache?

    It'll definately run Oracle

  18. Re:They don't build them like they used to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Anyone wanna place odds on intelligent life existing now?

  19. Greek or geek? by Plaid+Phantom · · Score: 2, Funny

    statues lying on the seabed that made the greatest impression on him. He returned to the surface, removed his helmet, and gabbled that he had found a heap of dead, naked women.

    A computer AND pr0n? They need to check their spellings. This was most certainly a geek ship, not a Greek ship.

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  20. Greek Gods making clockwork owls.... by interactive_civilian · · Score: 4, Funny
    Heh...the Greek Gods were making clockwork owls, ancient computers, bags that could hold the winds, winged sandals, etc...

    ...And all the Christians got was a carpenter.

    Helluva nice guy, though.

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    Sorry. Seemed a little Monty Python-esque.

    Good-bye, sweet karma.

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  21. Kent Brockman by Viking+Coder · · Score: 2, Funny

    Kent Brockman: I, for one, welcome our new Greek overlords.

    Kent Brockman (listens to earpiece)

    Kent Brockman: This just in, the classical Greek civilization fell thousands of years ago. And I, for one, welcome back our Republican overlords.

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  22. IPod by NotFamous · · Score: 2, Funny

    I hear the Ipod's thumbwheel navigation patent is now endangered by prior art...

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  23. Re:Is it a computer? by tpgp · · Score: 2, Funny

    No programming, no modularity, no general problem solving, less space then an ipod. Lame.

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