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Is There Such A Thing As A Final Cut?

heidi writes "There's an insightful article over at CNN's entertainment section about the tinkering of recent cultural history. Apparently, there is no such thing as a final draft any more, and author Todd Leopold does a great job of showing how this is revisionist history at its, well, oddest. Aside from the many examples he cites, such as the 'new' Capote novel and the changing of Star Wars to show that Greedo shot first, i can think of the 'new' Camus novel that i read a few years ago and the way that The Wizard of Oz had the 'ding dong the witch is dead' song edited out. In an era where our entertainment has come to define us and to fill, however (un)completely, the spiritual void that we inherited from the Boomers, messing with our stories isn't necessarily a positive thing, creative genius aside."

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  1. Next into the editing room by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now that Geoge Takei has come out, there will probably be some revision of Star Trek films for some Red States, where it's still illegal to be a homosexual starship commander.

    "Make it the commander Ronald Reagan."

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  2. Wha? by MoxCamel · · Score: 4, Funny
    There's an insightful article over at CNN's entertainment section...

    I recognize all of these words individually, but strung together like this they make absolutely no sense.

    (oh, and Han shot first...in bed.)

    Mox

  3. Yes, there is a final cut by karvind · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ask Apple :)

  4. Yes, there is! by SnappingTurtle · · Score: 2, Funny

    Absolutely!

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  5. In Related News... by jeffvoigt · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Louvre announced that it was lowering the bustline of the Mona Lisa to attract more visitors.

  6. I mean, there almost always is by SnappingTurtle · · Score: 2, Funny

    Almost always.

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  7. Re:I must have missed something by demopolis · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Ding, dong, the witch is dead" was edited out of The Wizard of Oz? I don't get it. Why?

    Hillary Clinton got offended.

  8. Re:I must have missed something by aicrules · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hostess used the DMCA!

  9. Re:I must have missed something by dptalia · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's insensitive to Wiccans. And unactractive old women who are assumed to be evil witches.

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  10. Obligatory Simpson's Quote by hotspotbloc · · Score: 4, Funny
    From "The Boy Who Knew Too Much" (1F19)
    (Homer watches "Free Willy" at the hotel.)

    Homer: Jump, Free Willy. Jump! Jump with all your might!
    [on the TV, Willy jumps over a rock barrier as a little boy smiles, but a shadow looms on his face and the smile turns to fear]
    Woman: Oh, no. Willy didn't make it. And he crushed our boy!
    Man: Ew. What a mess.
    Homer: Ohh, I don't like this new director's cut.

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  11. History is 5 nines irrelevant by dada21 · · Score: 3, Funny

    99.999% of the past is not just irrelevant, but harmful, in my opinion.

    Do we ever learn that politicians are liars?

    Do we ever learn that war is worthwhile?

    Do we ever learn to marry the right person at the right time?

    Do we ever learn to stop making video games about blockbuster movies?

    To me, change is good. As a society, my fellow citizens are more and more unable to adapt. Look at steel tariffs and help desk outsourcing.

    Our best 0.001% of anything never need changes. The rest is dust in the wind. Take an imperfect story, product or relationship and keep redoing it unitil it is perfect for the parties involved. Future generations should do the same.

    That's why I hate copyright, patents and government licensing.

    1. Re:History is 5 nines irrelevant by sco08y · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sir, I tip my hat to your karma whoring abilities.

      Let's review this post:

      The title and hook use a trendy geek term "five nines" to make a sweeping and unsubstantiated generalization.

      The post is arranged as a series of bullets, rather than actual ideas. This way placid mods aren't compelled to think about what's being written.

      The bullets moan about the condition of society, which 99.999% of people agree with, and suggest that "change is good," which 99.999% of people also agree with. It sounds like a stump speech, but most /.ers have never heard a stump speech so they don't clue in.

      And he wraps it up by saying he hates IP, which 99.999% of /.ers agree with.

      None of it actually makes any sense but that doesn't matter to a karma whore!

  12. oh sure by roman_mir · · Score: 3, Funny

    Circumcision - one cut away from the final...

  13. Well, MOST of the time by SnappingTurtle · · Score: 2, Funny

    Most of the time there's a final cut. Sometimes you just have to revise.

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  14. Re:I must have missed something by wowbagger · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Anti-defamation League of Practitioners of the Magickal Arts (note: they are old school and demand the old spelling of "Magickal") threatened to sue over that scene, saying "It is hate speech. It encourages violence against our membership, and is emotionally painful our many members who have lost friends and loved ones to the deprivations of wandering, improperly supervised small children."

    When the MPAA and studio initially refused to comply, the ADLPotMA representative turned the MPAA lawyer into a newt - a change many felt was for the better.

  15. Re:At the risk of a rantfest: IP's the problem by Control+Group · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ah, thank you!

    I knew it had been there, and I even knew I was misremembering it.

    Too bad /. doesn't have an edit feature, so I could go back and revise what I wrote so no one would know I had made a mistake...

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  16. Re:Pink Floyd by nosaj72 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Which, interestingly, was recently rereleased with an added song in the middle. So the final cut of The Final Cut was not actually the final cut.

  17. Re:I must have missed something by virtcert · · Score: 2, Funny
    When the MPAA and studio initially refused to comply, the ADLPotMA representative turned the MPAA lawyer into a newt - a change many felt was for the better.

    And how could they tell the difference, exactly?

  18. Re:There's an old saying... by Eccles · · Score: 2, Funny

    That would be Marcus Aurelius...

    Not anymore, we've revised it. Please throw away your old history books.

    We've renamed Commodus too, too many jokes. His new name is Urinalus.

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  19. Re:Some works are permanent and forever by The+Angry+Mick · · Score: 2, Funny

    Whoah! Careful there, DV. You start saying things like the the Bible contains metaphors and thematic exercises and you're gonna get a nasty-gram from Pat Robertson. ;-)

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  20. Re:My Brain! The goggles, they do nothing!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Lucas (waving hand): This is not the scene where Han shoots first.

    You (eyes glazed over): This is not the scene where Han shoots first.