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OpenBSD 3.8 Released

Cowards Anonymous writes "OpenBSD 3.8 is out. It comes with improved hardware support, some improvements to the OSPF daemon, some new RAID management tools, among many others. Even if you plan on installing via FTP, why not order a CD copy, tshirt, or poster as well? "

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  1. Nothing to see here... by giorgiofr · · Score: 4, Funny

    NetCraft confirms it: BSD is NOT dead!
    It has just turned into an invisible super-natural being that will come and bite you in the ass, YOU FAT PENGUIN!
    Eh, I'm joking. Don't mod into oblivion please, pretty please...

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  2. T-shirts for us total nerds by totallygeek · · Score: 4, Informative

    I am a big guy and I love ordering shirts from OpenBSD over some other places because they have XXXL on their site!

    1. Re:T-shirts for us total nerds by grub · · Score: 4, Funny


      I love ordering shirts from OpenBSD over some other places because they have XXXL on their site!

      That's why I order condoms from them. [/rimshot]

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    2. Re:T-shirts for us total nerds by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 3, Funny
      > I strongly suggest you take up smoking and a cocane habit.

      That's the [Chet] Atkins diet.

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  3. OpenBSD is cool by debilo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used to run OpenBSD on my router/firewall, and I quickly grew to love it. Installing OpenBSD was one of the most painless installs I have ever experienced, although there is no graphical installer. The FAQ located on the OpenBSD web site is a very thorough and priceless guide, and there are quite a few books on OpenBSD that have been released recently, so the old argument that there's no documentation for OpenBSD to be found doesn't hold any water anymore.

    Eventually, I ditched it for FreeBSD, because that's what I use on my desktop machine and on my notebook, and it feels more familiar. Also, I find patching and keeping the system up to date easier on FreeBSD than on OpenBSD. But don't let that discourage you, OpenBSD can be fun to use, just try it.

    1. Re:OpenBSD is cool by compass46 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "Also, I find patching and keeping the system up to date easier on FreeBSD than on OpenBSD."

      There's been a lot of work done on the pkg_* tools to make updating easier. I'm still on a 3.6 box at home so I can't wait to see what's been introduced since then. The pkg_add man page for 3.8 says the -u switch will be a true update switch after 3.8. Portupgrade is a great tool to use on FreeBSD and I can't wait for similar functionality on OpenBSD.

  4. New Security Features by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 4, Informative

    To see some of the current and new security features in OpenBSD, see this presentation by Theo.

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  5. One of the most important things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    One of the most important things new in this release is the mmap(2) based malloc(3) implementation. I can't believe the submitter didn't mention it. It has huge implications, in terms of added security and increased code quality overall. Already, important off-by-one bugs have been found and fixed in X.org which had been sitting there un-noticed for years. These bugs could cause the X server to crash on many systems, but OpenBSD exposed them reproducibly so they could be fixed.

    Read more about it in this Security Focus article titled Security-related innovation in Unix and in Theo de Raadt's post to misc@.

  6. Re:or you could give us a torrent link... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    OpenBSD don't do ISOs.
    You have to use the FTP sites: http://www.openbsd.org/ftp.html

    And yeah, they openly admit that this is becasue they want people to buy the CDs.
    Please stop whining.

  7. Re:T-Shirts are Dandy and All.. by LurkerXXX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lots of folks use it. But many use it in a place you'd never detect it. Firewalls. Your 'netcraft' numbers won't report those, because in the vast majority of cases those will be totally invisible.

  8. Re:When you say "out" by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Which is why F/OSS is so wonderful if you're a decision maker. There is no death, so long as somebody out there with the skills is willing to maintain it. And by the law of large numbers, any sufficiently high profile project like this is a close to immortal as any software project can be.

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  9. Another release song! by Gathers · · Score: 3, Funny

    I've never used OpenBSD, but I really like their release songs!

    I wish Ubuntu also had that tradition..
    (and no, "Badger badger badger badger" is to my knowledge not an official Ubuntu release song)

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  10. Re:When you say "out" by chroot_james · · Score: 5, Interesting

    To say openbsd has risen from the dead makes no sense. It's only been getting stronger. With FreeBSD basically dying (sorry, a new website won't save you guys) and DragonFlyBSD not catching on as fast as it'd prefer, I'd say OpenBSD is the strongest of the BSD's. It continually pushes security ideas forward and continues to be the best foss network border operating system. It works fantastic for many things most people use Linux for. Web serving, file sharing, firewalling, database serving, etc...

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  11. Re:When you say "out" by /ASCII · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seeing how OpenSSH, pf and several other 'OpenBSD Spinoffs' have made it to Linux and other Unix-like operating systems, I'd have to say that at the very least, OpenBSD is by far the most interesting project in the BSD world for non-BSD:ers.

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  12. Re:We are dorks by (startx) · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As a developer you should care about this release. The malloc/free implimentation has been changed to release memory immediately to the OS, causing any read-after-free bugs to immediately throw a SIGSEGV.

    See theo's post to misc@.

  13. Re:Calm. The. #$@!. Down. It's not that I'm cheap by freshman_a · · Score: 4, Informative


    I have to download a whole bunch of packages, make FLOPPIES

    No, you don't. There is an install CD available. http://www.openbsd.com/faq/faq4.html#MkCD-ROM
    Download the install ISO, burn to CD, ta-da! Very difficult, indeed...

    As someone who has installed OpenBSD before, I can tell you, it's really not that difficult. Download the install CD ISO and follow this: http://www.openbsd.com/faq/faq4.html#Install

  14. Re:We are dorks by LurkerXXX · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is a BSD we are talking about. The number refers to the whole operating system. Not just a kernal as in Linux. The same team that works on the kernal works on the rest of the system as well.

  15. Would you trust? by aurb · · Score: 3, Funny

    Would you trust an operating system that had a remote hole 8 years ago?...

  16. Make your own bootable CD then... by aschlemm · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've used instructions similar to this to make my own bootable CD for OpenBSD before. These instructions were for OpenBSD 3.4 but they've worked for me for both OpenBSD 3.5 and 3.7. The package names for OpenBSD 3.8 will have a "38" in them rather than 34.

    http://www.pantz.org/os/openbsd/makingaopenbsdcd.s html

    If you don't like these instructions do a quick Google search or something and you'll probably find a few more URLs showing the same thing.

  17. Re:part 2- not trolling, just a little frustrated by myspys · · Score: 4, Informative

    Two ways:

    1. Make your own ISO (http://www.pantz.org/os/openbsd/makingaopenbsdcd. shtml)

    2. Download an inofficial ISO (http://www.hup.hu/modules.php?name=News&file=arti cle&sid=9953)

    Both of these steps should of course be followed by buying at least something from the OpenBSD store at http://www.openbsd.org/orders.html

  18. Re:part 2- not trolling, just a little frustrated by Fezmid · · Score: 5, Informative

    Have you even TRIED installing OpenBSD? It's simple. Download a 1M install disk, burn to CD, boot off the CD, select install, and it downloads everything that you select to install automatically. No need for an ISO, no need for a torrent.

    Quick and painless. Try it, you'll like it. :)

  19. Re:We are dorks by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, of course, but I personally think this release is a big deal. Contrary to what is usually the case with point releases, this one actually improves the state of the art - namely in security of Unix-like operating systems.

    Some important security features have gone into this release (see, for example, this presentation), security that are almost certainly not found in any operating system you can mention. Besides the obvious benefit of making OpenBSD more secure, these features help catch bugs, and already some years-old bugs have already been caught. When these bugs are fixed, other systems using the software the bugs were in becomes more secure, too.

    Personally, I am very impressed with how many security features the OpenBSD team manage to put in their system, without great sacrifices in standard-compliance and performance. I'm much more impressed by that than what great new features for games developers Microsoft has integrated, or how their new GUI toolkit makes their interface less ugly, or how Linux supports yet another hardware gadget, or how yet another distro promises that they will cause Linux to topple Microsoft.

    In today's world that is run by computers, we need security. Worms, botnets, trojans, automated and directed break ins, website defacements, spam, and information theft demonstrate that we aren't there yet. OpenBSD seems to be the only OS project that seems to fully realize this _and_ have a production-ready system available. There is still much to be desired, but they're much further than the competition.

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  20. Re:Secure Heap Implementation by /ASCII · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've read that the Glibc heap implementation will also be implementing functionality similar to the guard pages in OpenBSD malloc. Should help shake out quite a few memory allocation bugs...

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  21. I wrote a guide.... by Nazadus · · Score: 4, Informative

    I wrote a guide on how to make your own CD from FTP in Linux.
    I'm in the process of writting for how to do it in Windows.

    Check it out and lemme know if something sucks:
    http://etherpunk.com/knowbase/index.php/OpenBSD:_M aking_A_CD_From_FTP

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  22. Re:What would make me try it.. by LurkerXXX · · Score: 3, Informative

    VMWare does not run on OpenBSD. You can install it as a guest system, with no support and no VMWare tools for it, but you can't use it as a secure host OS. I've been bugging VMWare for support for it for a long time. I hope anyone else interested will write them as well.