Blizzard's Warden Thwarted by Sony's DRM Rootkit
shotfeel writes "First, news of Warden -a bit of code from Blizzard's WoW to trounce game cheats. Then, a Sony rootkit to make your computer safe for music. Now, news that you can use the Sony rootkit to make your game cheats safe from the Warden."
Just goes to show that there is indeed a good use for everything.
Don't Tread on Me
Coincidence, or conspiracy? Hrmm...
You anti-DRM, pro-cheating and stealing hippies must be really conflicted on this one.
Please somebody...anybody!
I have definitely thwarted Warden. I just created a 13th level unicorn, ate all the remaining rhubarb in the forest, and killed the White Wizard with an AK-47. NICE!
I always save my last mod point to mod up a good troll. You people are too serious.
Am I the only one who finds this amusing? I mean... wow. Whatever monkey at Sony that approved this scheme must be soiling their armor by now.
And that the first (known) exploit of this thing should be a game cheat. The world is a strange place; Sony has made it just a bit stranger.
End of lesson. You may press the button.
OK, so I understand that Sony did a bad thing with the rootkit. But I don't immediately understand the link to Blizzard. Surely there are other "rootkits" around (think Hacker Defender) which can hide files? Why has this suddenly become a problem with the release of the Sony rootkit? Is it a case of "yes, this is definitely bad... now quick, find some way of demonstrating how bad it is!"
Do other cheat protection systems use similar methods to look for files? If so, why are they not affected? Why am I only hearing about Warcraft?
Hmmm...it didn't work.
If the process is hidden, the Warden can't pick up on it, right?
So hypothetically, ANY rootkit could be used to hide processes - HackerDefender and the others out there would do the job nicely.
Of course, the other edge of the sword is that you don't know just what _else_ is hiding... unless you wrote and compiled the rootkit yourself using your home-brewed compiler.
Striking fear in the authors of godawful fanfiction, I am here, appearing in darkness, Tuxedo Jack!
But it would be better if Warden was a product of Sony Online Entertainment, and it was used to protect Star Wars Galaxies. THAT would have made my day.
It was a joke! When you give me that look it was a joke.
I now live in hope for the day that a bunch of the corporations pushing for invasive DRM like Blizzard's Warden and Sony's whatever-it's-called sue each other under the DMCA for circumventing each others technologies, instead of suing us for trying to crawl out from under them.
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In this corner, the spammers, with thier root for zombies to spam you with...
:)
In this corner, the DRM people, making sure you don't listen to any music you paid for.
And in this corner, the 1337 gamer d00ds, making sure you have to buy it on ebay instead of getting it yourself.
And there is the bell... wait, they don't appear to be fighting... why are they taking off their clothes... what is the Sony guy doing to the spammer... they appear to be... oh my, that's just not right... this fight is called on account of an orgy breaking out...
Meanwhile...
Enjoy the nice cozy comfort of your OSX and Linux boxes
- Adam L. Beberg - The Cosm Project - http://www.mithral.com/
Are we suddenly interested in the rights of game cheaters? Whose rights are being impacted here?
The "rights" issue is with peoples' right to listen to music they've bought without the CD compromising their system and infecting it with rootkits. This article is signifigant more as a new development in that story, than as a "a victory for the rights of online cheaters everywhere!" thing.
To underscore the point, consider that yesterday on GlobeAndMail.com, we have:
The company dismissed the prospect of hackers exploiting its rootkits for their own purposes as an "academic" concern.
I guess it isn't so academic anymore.
1: Why are people celebrating victory because Sony announced they will remove the cloak, they're still leaving all the rest of the crap on your system - including the memory and cpu wasting scan that runs continually, even when you're not playing their DRM infested CD's.
2: Now that the cloak is removed, what was that registry key that keeps track of how many CD's you've burned under their DRM system?
3: Don't you think you're celebrating a bit early since Warden 2.0 should be able to use the same tricks as RootKitRevealer to diagnose your system? And how long will this take to appear?
4: If you detecting and removing this software from your computer violates the DMCA, then the DMCA is so cleary wrong that it should be repealed this afternoon.
5: Profit! Or in other words, who is profiting from this now? I don't see Sony going broke yet.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
Try and get Sony's DRM to interfere with DVD protection. RIAA Vs. MPAA... FIGHT!
"...Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and spam; egg bacon and spam; egg bacon sausage and spam..."
1: Install WoW.
2: Install Sony Music CD.
3: Install Cheat Hacks.
4: Win at WoW.
5: Profit!
6: Discover that Sony RookKit drops frame rate to unacceptable levels.
7: Buy new AMD64 gaming system.
8: Discover that game gold no good in the real world.
9: Profit^-1.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
This reminds me of the old Reeses commercials...
Sony: Hey! Your spyware's in my rootkit!
Blizzard: Your rootkit's in my spyware!
User (taking a bite): Mmmm, now that's good computing! So liberating...
Announcer Don Pardo: Two great tastes that go together.
To the making of books there is no end, so let's get started
Much as I detest the Sony DRM, this is not a valid criticism of it. Anybody wanting to implement cheats will just use the same method as the Sony DRM directly to hide the cheats, not rely on the Sony DRM having been installed first! This is a flaw in Warden that is independent of the fact that the Sony DRM is a bad thing. It also points out the flaw in the anti-cheat arms race -- since you don't own your customer's machines, any anti-cheating technology you deploy can be quickly circumvented by determined individuals.
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
detecting it would be a bit troublesome...
Not really. The presence of the rootkit has a measureable effect. They just have to have Warden create a file with a name starting with $sys$ and then test to see if it is still there. If it has disappeared, it has detected the presence of the rootkit.
Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
mootkit.
noun: software program that interferes with another software program's attempt to interfere with the actions of a given user.
symnonyms: see windows, et al
Sony just jumped the gun. They weren't willing to wait until Microsoft put a formal system for this kind of bullshit to take place. The only difference between this and 'trusted' computing is that there's no formalized mechanism in place .... yet.
Sometimes boldness is in fashion. Sometimes only the brave will be bold.