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Google Desktop 2 Live

An anonymous reader writes "Combining desktop search and the Google Sidebar, Google Desktop 2 is now available for download. Dozens of new third-party sidebar panels are now available, Google said. Also launched was Google Desktop for Enterprise (free)."

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  1. On my Mac right now... by MadChicken · · Score: 3, Funny

    Can I insall it vicariously?

    Anyone?

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    1. Re:On my Mac right now... by anti-trojan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That's purely logical. They are bombarding people with Google apps running on Windows (Google Talk, Gmail notifier, Google Desktop, soon a Google Browser and Google Office Applications). You are getting used to them.

      Next year when they say "you are using all Google-applications on your Windows anyway. Why don't you just download our GoogleOS preloaded with those applications (and more) and save money instead of paying to Microsoft", more people will say "sure, why not."

    2. Re:On my Mac right now... by ForumTroll · · Score: 4, Funny

      More speculation about a GoogleOS....

      Google Fanboy: They made an email app, a desktop search bar and an IM client, HOW COULD THEY NOT BE MAKING AN OS????

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    3. Re:On my Mac right now... by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A GoogleOS ain't happening. Why would Google waste resources when Microsoft and Apple are perfectly happy providing client operating systems and browsers for accessing Google's REAL operating system--the Web?

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    4. Re:On my Mac right now... by zephc · · Score: 3, Funny

      Not til they port emacs, THEN it will be an OS

      *ahem*

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    5. Re:On my Mac right now... by emc · · Score: 3, Funny

      Not til they port emacs, THEN it will be an POS

      I fixed that for you.

      You can thank me later.

    6. Re:On my Mac right now... by bcmm · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh God. Their going to use Windows for it, but all the apps will be from Google. Kind of like GNU/Linux: it'll be Google/NT.

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    7. Re:On my Mac right now... by LordEd · · Score: 2, Funny

      Not til they port emacs, THEN it will be an POS

      Emacs has a point of sale plug-in now?

  2. Google (tm) Air by MandoSKippy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Breath fresh Google Air (tm) as you drive you your Google (tm) Car will sipping on your Google(tm) latte while... And we are worried about Microsoft?

    1. Re:Google (tm) Air by aaza · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But Google says Do no evil. Where does it say that for Microsoft?

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    2. Re:Google (tm) Air by devilsadvoc8 · · Score: 2, Funny

      It means we don't need to fear the monsterous offspring of a Google/Microsoft copulation.

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    3. Re:Google (tm) Air by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I imagine it won't be much longer before it becomes fashionable to hate Google around here. Judging from your post and the subsequent moderation to it, it's already started to happen.

      That's not to say I think your concern is unfounded. Actually I agree with you. I still can't believe how often I hear their corporate tag-line parroted any time somebody criticizes Google's growth. "Google's getting pretty big!" "Yeah but they do no evil!" Heh.

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    4. Re:Google (tm) Air by Omestes · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What nasty thing has Google done, yet?

      I LIKE Google, and don't see how this service can make them suddenly evil? Look, we made a desktop search app, and a bunch of other really neat gagdets! And all we ask of you is to look at an ad that might actually be interested from time to time! That sounds pretty vile, much more vile than Microsoft.

      I guess, though, unlike most /monkeys I need an actual reason to hate a company, not just the fact that they are big, and most people use them. MS does nasty things, Google hasn't yet, and that is enough for me.

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    5. Re:Google (tm) Air by miffo.swe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Google is into search technology, Microsoft is into everything profitable in the desktop market. They sell a bunch of other things like Xbox, keyboards, mice etc. Google is into open source, Microsoft wants its head on a silver platter. Microsoft has been convicted atleast two times for being a predatory monopoly and has bought itself free from countless of charges and trials. Microsoft is working hard at killing any competition or startups threating to bring new cool stuff Microsoft doesnt have. This while Google is working even harder at bringing new products and just ignores the competition. Microsoft has not exactly been an catalysator for the desktop development. Without Apple we would still be using something like Windows 3.1.

      Ill think ill take my chances with Google (tm) air thank you.

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    6. Re:Google (tm) Air by miffo.swe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "I guess, though, unlike most /monkeys I need an actual reason to hate a company, not just the fact that they are big, and most people use them."

      If you havent noticed /. is pretty much under seige by Microsofties and astroturfers. Not many dislike google since they have done nothing wrong yet. Except ofcourse your average MS fanboy who hates everything that MS hates. It would be a sweet task to break down the visitors IP and do some tracking. I suspect a fair number of google hating IP goes to MS VARs, partners or Redmond.

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    7. Re:Google (tm) Air by lunax · · Score: 2, Funny

      yeah but:
      gAir would smell fresh with the ocasional seafood aroma. MS-Air would have the essence of stale dog crap. The gCar would produce gAir as it's exhaust, and as we all know the MS-Car would crash and get broken into easily. gLatte amd MS-Latte would actually be re-branded Starbucks, but nobody would know that.

    8. Re:Google (tm) Air by osbjmg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm down with google too.. but what about the other big company out there (Uncle Sam) asking google for all these nicely documented users, er - citizens? They may be forced to hand over information that the government hasn't been able to correlate. Google stores it all, they don't have a policy for deleting old data and that is the main problem for me anyway.

    9. Re:Google (tm) Air by mhale2243 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The fundamental reason I like Google and dislike Microsoft is that I like being a Google customer their stuff works well for me. Microsoft on the other hand frequently frustrates me.

      You could say apples and oranges, Google only makes simple little search engines, while Microsoft makes operating systems and office suites. However it is possible for any company to release a product that they don't sufficiently understand no matter what the size. Microsoft simply bit off too much to maintain greatness, while Google has steadily build upon what they know how to do best. That is why I am excited about Microsoft's plan to build Singularity from scratch. Maybe they will start small and build on success instead of trying to be the world.

    10. Re:Google (tm) Air by ergo98 · · Score: 2, Funny

      If you havent noticed /. is pretty much under seige by Microsofties and astroturfers. Not many dislike google since they have done nothing wrong yet. Except ofcourse your average MS fanboy who hates everything that MS hates.

      Are you kidding? This place is overflowing with Google juice, with endless ranks of Google fanboys falling over themselves to praise whatever it is that Google has done lately to push ads more intrusively into our lives. I find it remarkable that an argument that "all Google wants is to feed you ads" can be stated with a straight face. Isn't this the crowd that demonized Doubleclick to the ends of the Earth? So what makes Google so different from Doubleclick? Oh, right - they use Linux so they must be good.

      So keep on believing that whoever isn't drinking the Google coolaid is secretly a Microsoft astroturfer.

    11. Re:Google (tm) Air by simong_oz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Google is into search technology, Microsoft is into everything profitable in the desktop market.

      Google is a company, they exist to make profit for their shareholders.
      Microsoft is a company, they exist to make profit for their shareholders.

      They may use different strategies to make the profit, but to think otherwise is being naive IMO.

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  3. But... by Jesselnz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Will it run on my NetBSD toaster?

  4. Slick... very slick by lamasquerade · · Score: 4, Informative

    I installed the original Desktop search, but since moving computers hadn't bothered to reinstall. I have just installed this new version and it is one very slick little app. I don't usually like giving up screen real-estate but I decided to try the sidebar and so far I'm impressed. I can see a lot I'll be able to use, not least the scratch pad instead of opening up notepad for one-liners. The to-do list is cool too - I know it sounds so simple, but my workload comes from two service desk queues, plus other projects, plus ad-hoc email requests - and I think just jotting down a few tasks to get done today in the morning might help organise things for the day rather than flitting about between tasks all day.

    As I said, some simple tools, but helpful, and well organised. As for the desktop search itself, we can now specify network drives to index which is really cool for the dis-organised mess of nested folders that is my corporate drive. Gmail search can't get through my firewall unfortunately. The News search is great, it seems to have figured out my habits from history - I haven't visited any news sites except slashdot since installing and it's already got some new stories from my favourite sites... Plus some seemingly random interesting maps and blogs... no doubt these will cancel out any gains to my productivity made by ease of finding things:)

    So all in all, first impression is a good one.

    btw, does anyone know a way to create a firefox keyword to search the with this? It seems to need a session id to work, but maybe there's a way round?

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    1. Re:Slick... very slick by ericmarshall · · Score: 2, Informative

      They have a plugin for searching Google Desktop from the Firefox search bar here.

    2. Re:Slick... very slick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      btw, does anyone know a way to create a firefox keyword to search the with this? It seems to need a session id to work, but maybe there's a way round?

      I just made a GDS "Quick Search" for Firefox. Here's what I did:
      1) Do a blank search with GDS in Firefox.
      2) Bookmark it and open up its properties page.
      3) The URL should look something like this --> http://127.0.0.1:4664/search&s=FGJsWAKx2-kWjzxnpdJ wgjkb5lU?q=&ie=UTF-8&btnG=Search
      4) Insert a "%s" after the "q=" in the URL.
      5) Enter something memorable in the Keyword box (I used "gd")
      6) Look here for clarification --> http://filebox.vt.edu/s/seiglert/images/clipboard0 1.jpg
      Now, whenever you want to search for something on your desktop in Firefox, just go to the Address bar, and type "gd" and whatever you want to search for! :-D

      --Acercanto

    3. Re:Slick... very slick by Slashdiddly · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sorry, but I have to disagree with you there.

      Today was my first experience with GDS. (I never installed the first version because it didn't support any of the file formats that I cared about.)

      I did NOT want it to index my mail (I already use gmail)
      I did NOT want it to index my web history (there could be dangerous things hiding in there)
      I did NOT want it to index my C: drive (I don't store any data there)

      All I wanted to do was to index one folder - my ebook collection. Mostly pdf and chm.

      Getting GDS to index only a specific folder requires an extension!
      Getting it to index chm requires yet another extension.
      Getting it to actually get on with the damn indexing requires you to sit quietly and wait until idle trigger kicks in - with no way to force it (that I could find). 3 hours later it has only indexed less than 200 books.
      Search results are poor. Searching for "snort" shows "Mastering FreeBSD and OpenBSD Security" ahead of "Snort Cookbook". I can do better with filename-based searching!

      Very underwhelmed...

    4. Re:Slick... very slick by bloodstains · · Score: 2, Informative

      I am not impressed at all.

      First of all, on the preferences page, I clicked on the "Advanced Features" link to see what exactly these advanced features were. This checked the "Advanced Features" checkbox and immediately forwarded me to a page that explained that I would be sending usage info to google. No other info was available there. So, it appears that the "advanced feature" option is a synonym for an "enable spyware" option. No other benefits are explained.

      Secondly, I get these obnoxious pop ups when new mail arrives, which duplicates the functionality of Outlook 2003 to no benefit. There is no option to turn it off on the preferences page that I can see. There is a preferences page that you can access from the pop-up window, unfortunately though, changes I make there don't get saved.

      My last complaint is only due to me trying to give the software a fair chance. My inclination is to uninstall it now, but I figured I would let it finish indexing and run a few searches. Who knows, I may be impressed, but the indexing is taking forever. and I'm about ready to give up on it.

  5. Uh-oh Google farted! by 0xdeaddead · · Score: 4, Funny
    Keep those press release comming! If it ain't SCO, SCOX, its gotta be Google!

    I needs my fix already!

    Now if google would do something with Natilie Portman.........

    1. Re:Uh-oh Google farted! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Absolutely fucking amazing... Will somebody here PLEASE explain to me how Google knows to filter the porn out of images when you click "SafeSearch"? It never occured to me before, but it's pretty amazing that they have a computer program that can recognize a doctored picture of Portman getting a facial and one of her simply posing demurely and semi-nude but with everything covered. How is this act of technical genius never mentioned around here? Automated porn detection is impressive as hell.

      If only they had a button which would ONLY return porn. Obviously, they can do it since it's just a logical set operation. I'm surprised no smart hacker has figured out how to use the Google Image search to find porn by doing two identical searches, one with Safe on and with with it off and then taking the difference of the two sets...

  6. Not Exactly Desktop Yet by superpulpsicle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It has a couple functions but to call it a desktop is way too early. The question is when will Google stop riding the bear. "Requires Windows XP or Windows 2000 SP 3+".

  7. Re:Uh, hasn't it been out since August? by aaza · · Score: 3, Funny
    Yeah, but apparantly it came out of "beta" status now.

    Wait, are you saying that something Google released is out of beta?

    (No I didn't read the article, and I find it amusing that almost nothing from Google ever makes it out of beta)

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  8. Stock Price by kmartshopper · · Score: 5, Funny

    You would think that they would have put up a screenshot of the sidebar where their stock was up rather than down $4.17.

  9. Google desktop by RLiegh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I looked at it, and I don't honestly see what the big deal is.

    1. Re:Google desktop by rm69990 · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is two products bundled together, Google Sidebar and Google Desktop. Desktop allows you to type in a single word and search all files, emails, songs, videos, etc. on your computer, similar to Beagle. I run it with the sidebar turned off, and then just click in the taskbar to open a browser to use it.

    2. Re:Google desktop by Diag · · Score: 2, Informative

      I installed it on my home PC when it first came out months ago and couldn't see any real use for it, so uninstalled it.

      But then I saw a colleague at work using it and saw how it could be very helpful in that environment. Being an IT consultant, just about all of my work related communications occur via email (Exchange), web browsing, PDF's and Office documents on my laptop. Google Desktop indexes *all* this information, making it very fast and easy to search it at whim, which I often have to do. The ability to search all of these sources of information at once is extremely helpful.

      You can turn the dodgy sidebar off and just have a small text input area in the Windows task bar, or access the search interface through your web browser.

      Often I work at customer sites and aren't able to connect my laptop to the internet. At these times I've found Google Desktop's cache to be very handy.

      But I still can't see much use for it on my home PC :]

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  10. Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Installing it forces a reboot under Windows XP Pro.

    I thought those days were over. :(

  11. No. Wake me up when it does by vik · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You never know, Beagle might be usable before Google get their desktop going on Linux. But the Beagle keeps chewing up my memory, so I'm dropping back to using x-friend even though it's not Open Source.

    If anyone has any better alternatives for us Linux bunnies, do tell the world!

    Vik :v)

  12. Re:wrong. by Masami+Eiri · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You seem to miss the meaning of "Now Available." They never said "new" in there anywhere.

  13. Does anyone actually USE Google Desktop? by rinkjustice · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've installed every version of google desktop since inception, hoping every time that I'll find use for it. But I never do. It just sits there on my desktop, taking up real estate and looking fugly.

    Other than replacing XP's pathetic search feature, it's really alot of nothing.

    1. Re:Does anyone actually USE Google Desktop? by MBCook · · Score: 4, Informative
      I've installed it on all the family Windows boxes, and it is helpful once in a while at finding documents (my parents are permanently unorganized in file structure). The ability of search your web history is neat, I'd probably use that a lot.

      That said, I spend almost all my time on my Mac, so I have Spotlight.

      I LOVE Spotlight.

      With a quick key combination (based on keyboard placement, it would be like Alt-Space in the windows world) and then just type in stuff. The name of a document. A person's name. The name of an appointment. The name of a bookmark. The name of a folder. Some text in a document that I can't remember the name of. The name of a function in one of my programming projects (then just chose the header file it finds). It is fantastic. I even use it to launch programs (although I would prefer a version of the Run command in Windows, that is the one thing I miss). I know about Quicksilver and such but Spotlight works well enough for this.

      It does seem to have gotten faster with the 10.4.3 update as well. Before sometimes I could type something in and it would take 15+ seconds for the first result to show up (this is a 1.677 GHz PB with 1GB of RAM), now the first results are always there in under a second (note, internal hard drive only; I don't know how it'd deal with multiple 800GB volumes some people use).

      If you get Google Desktop and start using it, I think you'll love it (note: I've turned off the sidebar, just seems annoying to me). All it needs is a key command (Win-G maybe?) to launch it (note: might exist, haven't looked). While not as convenient as Spotlight (Google Desktop pulls up a web browser then you have to click, with spotlight I can use arrow keys, return, and various key combos), it will still be a major boon to you.

      Now I'm a VERY organized person, and I still am. But now I can find that document by typing a few letters, instead of opening a few folders.

      And if you accidently save something to the wrong place, it can be a GODSEND in finding it.

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  14. Re:Uh, hasn't it been out since August? by gmplague · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yeah, while I realize you're joking, I actually really like it.

    Google probably wouldn't release most of these products at all were it not for the Google labs/beta pages. They've got people writing interesting software which maybe isn't mass marketable but is still neat nonetheless.

    Even if the software is really stable, they keep it in beta. They don't have to pay to support it, so they can keep it out there. I like it.

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  15. So what? by markusbkoch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When are people going to understand that Google is a business just like any other?

    Being a business, they must focus on the return over their investment, which is much faster achieved when you develop something for the masses. Last time I checked, the masses were running Windows, not Linux or any other open source OS.

    And BTW, they WILL do evil if that makes stocks go up!

    1. Re:So what? by descil · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Google makes big noises about not being evil. It starts to make you think about Google's Evil Index.

      Back when they made their IPO, they even specifically structured it so as to avoid reliance on stock prices (nobody can own more of Google than they do). This means they cannot be -forced- to become evil by someone who buys up a lot of the stock. It also (cleverly) means nobody can do a takeover of their company - gee, I wonder why they did that :)

      Anyway, being a business does -not- mean you have to focus on ROI. There's nothing in the manual that says that. ROI is only important if you care about making money. I'm still hanging on to the hope that not every business owner is JUST about making money. The guys at Google do seem to have some really interesting things to say about Information Availability, and they have zeal that borders on jihad.

      Hey, there's an idea - let's make big-business takeover into a jihad :)

      (hello, carnivore)

  16. Is it really something new? by yep-yep · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I agree with a few statements already made this should not be called "desktop" yet. As for the bar itself... him I do believe I've seen this before http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/ or perhaps http://members.dslextreme.com/users/billw/gkrellm/ gkrellm.html When I did run gdesklets it was setup with a lot of the same features, quick notes, email, time, weather, calander and the list goes on. Nothing really new except it has goggle branded to it.

  17. Re:won't install for me by tapo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yeah, I have had that problem too and it's been in since beta and version 1. Google's customer support says they're "looking into a resolution for this particular issue". In other words, sorry, no Google Desktop for you.

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  18. Um, what? by HoneyBunchesOfGoats · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't get this paranoia about Google. Why is it a concern that they have lots of different products? Would you not buy a General Mills cereal because they make several other kinds of foods too? If you don't like Google products, don't install them, nobody forces you. Last time I checked, going to their website was optional, too (and I don't think that's going to change).

  19. Scripting Plug-ins with Javascript - the new VBA by boozewah · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I installed the original Google Desktop Search when it first came out. The application was not bad, it just crashed my computer anytime I left it up overnight. After I narrowed the number of folders it indexed the crashes stopped and I now use it alot. I have found it very useful and am not annoyed by the sliver of screen space it takes up on the right side monitor. It seems the newest version is a little more stable and the new maps plugin is nice since I am a map junkie.
              The real neat capability is the ability they give you to write plug-ins now in javascript. I have only been playing around a little so far but it seems like Google is trying to turn Javascript into the new VBA! I was very interested in creating a Google Desktop Plug-in before they added the new Javascript programming capabilties, but I was going to need Visual Studio 2003 and navigate through Visual C++.net. In just playing around the Javascript it seems both simple yet powerful enough to get done what I want. The comparison to VBA is not meant to be a put down. Between the Google Maps API and the Sidebar API for Google Desktop I never though I would be using Javascript so much.

  20. Re:Um... by fmaxwell · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They only run on OSs with minimal market penetration, so most people can't run them.

  21. Platform Independent Desktop Applications: Google? by betasam · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've always wanted to try out Google's desktop, but running it on wine on my linux box just doesn't convince me enough. Google has been labelling themselves a "Digital Services Infrastructure Company" (Stahlman) and provide a good number of services accessible through a browser. I do understand that facilitating a desktop search requires native access to the platform making a completely browser based solution unsuitable or insecure. However, it would be nice to see Google at least provide a framework or API if not actually write a portable application usable across platforms. Gnome users would probably be banking on beagle performing the same roles and KDE users may have to wait a while before a strong equivalent (Tenor) comes in.

    While it is true that Google doesn't seem to have put a foot wrong yet, I do notice that many of their applications (Picasa et al) seem to be tailored for Microsoft platforms. For the moment this is in line with their attempt in becoming an all-pervasive "digital infrastructure" company. I wonder if many GNU/Linux enthusiasts find it a bit frustrating not to be able to try out these applications (or am I missing a link somewhere ..?)

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  22. Re:Why not just use a browser? by rm69990 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Name me one browser that can search all files, songs, web history, IM conversations, emails, etc on your desktop by typing in a single search word.

  23. RSS Feed by rm69990 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Slashdot has an RSS Feed for front page stories. I think they should add a second one for Google stories. It would look something like this:

    -
           
    Slashdot : Google News, 24/7
    http://www.googledot.org
    -

    Google this, Google that, Google Google Google blah blah blah

    en-CA
    Copyright 2005
    Wed, 02 Nov 2005 24:08:49 GMT-07:00
    Wed, 02 Nov 2005 24:08:49 GMT-07:00
    http://everythinggoogle.com
    http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss
    -
           
    Google Employees Go To Work
    -
           
    Today at 9 AM Approximately 2800 Google Employees went to work. 200 called in sick. There was a traffic jam in the parking lot.

    -
           
    http://fakelink.com/

    -
           
    http://fakelink.com/

    Google
    Mon, 31 Oct 2005 24:29:01 GMT-07:00

    Google Farts
                     
    At 12 PM today, Google Farted. (4500 comments thus far)

    http://fakelink.com/

    http://fakelink.com/

    Google (what else would it be)
    Mon, 31 Oct 2005 24:29:01 GMT-07:00

  24. gd2 vs. yahoo desktop + konfabulator by yulek · · Score: 2, Insightful

    i used gd for a while, but it didn't find nearly as much stuff as X1 (which later became yahoo desktop). for example, it wouldn't index my gaim logs for some reason. i had to install some third party text plugin that ate the cpu like mad.

    so i like the way gd works, in general, but i didn't like that it searched so little of my world. Y! desktop, on the other hand, is an ugly app, but man, it finds EVERYTHING.

    as far as the sidebar, i just don't get what the fuss is about. y'all should check out konfabulator. it's amazingly cool and works the same on windows and the mac (i use both) and does all the stuff gd's sidebard does and a lot more and in much more open ended manner (transparent float mode is unbelievably useful).

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  25. Didn't like it by Mr_Silver · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I tried Google Desktop about 3 months ago and didn't like it. One problem was that I had little use for the sidebar which just took up a load of desktop space. The subscribing to every pages RSS feed sounds like a nice idea until you end up with 3000 subscriptions of which 30+ update every single time the feed is pulled.

    But the major problem for me was that *gasp* the searching wasn't very good. No seriously. Here's why:

    1. If you move a file from one location to another, it can take weeks before GDS re-indexes both areas and realises that its moved. During this time you either get pointers to the wrong location or (only slightly better) two entries showing the old location and the new location.
    2. Ditto for email. I move emails from my Outlook inbox into folders according to project. Weeks later, I still can't find the email because GDS claims its still in the inbox (but cannot open it).
    3. When GDS cannot open an indexed file because it no longer exists, GDS doesn't do the sensible thing and remove the database entry so that it no longer appears in subsequent searches. In fact, in an ideal world, GDS should check the existence of all the files before it lists them to you.
    4. Without doing some convoluted stuff, you can't force GDS to re-index everything again. This is essential after a couple of weeks because your index is too inaccurate to be any use.
    5. You can't tell GDS to re-index certain things (email, certain folders) more frequently because they change more often.
    6. Hell, you can't increase the time GDS re-indexes full stop.

    In the end I gave up and installed Copernic which is far better. It is most definitely not perfect, for example, it can't just search everything (you have to specify files, emails, contacts etc.), the toolbar search isn't as useful as Google's (you can't just type something and your results start to appear in a menu), the IE and Firefox plugins don't actually search your desktop (only the web) and that there is no integrated search bar for Outlook (I do miss this).

    However (and this is the big one), it re-index's far quicker and more often than Google and I can set it to re-index certain things (like my email) once every day which means that my results are always correct.

    It wouldn't take much that GDS would need to change for me to revert back because I like the integrated search in Outlook and the toolbar - but the database inaccuracy means that its next to useless for the way I work.

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  26. Google Evil ? by andr386 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wish you were right about Google...

    More and more all my private life is scanned by google.
    Google knows everything about me.
    Via gmail they know who are my friends, where I work, what I do, ... everything.
    Via google search history they can even gather more informations, they can even guess when I was in front of my computer.

    I don't wanna draw a dark picture, but they are gaining more and more access to our private life. What do they do whith all the data they collect ? Targeting advertisement ?
    I really hope they have the best intentions and they only do that !
    Because If a I were the CIA investigating somebody, google would be the first place to go to retrieve informations.

  27. Re:Sync it between laptop and desktop by xot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    yes you can. try syncnotes

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  28. Re:Scripting Plug-ins with Javascript - the new VB by zettabyte · · Score: 2, Informative

    Javascript is a much maligned language that is actually pretty powerful.

    I've been toying around with XUL applications on Mozilla and have been learning alot about the power of the language.

    I think it's humble beginnings have stereotyped it as a toy, while the reality is that it's extremely powerful and flexible.

    The new ECMA 357 spec is pretty interesting, too.