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MozCorp Announces Firefox 1.5 Extension Competition

vain gloria writes "The Mozilla Corporation has launched a competition to Extend Firefox by developing an innovative new extension for the soon-to-be-released latest version of their popular browser. The competition runs until January 6th and the three big prizes are Foxified Alienware PCs. Keen developers may want to grab a copy of the 1.5 Release Candidate and get a head start. Better check your passports first though, as those outside the US, EU and Canada (or in Québec) are ineligible to enter."

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  1. if that is necessary... by TheWart · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Better check your passports first though, as those outside the US, EU and Canada (or in Québec) are ineligible to enter."


    On second thought, if that is necessary for you to remember where you live, then maybe you shouldn't be entering the contest.

    1. Re:if that is necessary... by Fred_A · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This geographic limitation is very weird and runs opposite to the worldwide nature of open source software.

      Why aren't Africans or Asians or Australians (or whateverians) allowed to enter ? What's wrong with the other north Americans (Mexicans) ?

      Is this a language issue ? Part of the "fight against terror" (sic) or what ?

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    2. Re:if that is necessary... by Shaper_pmp · · Score: 4, Insightful

      More likely legal requirements, or restrictions on shipping technology (the first prize) to other countries.

      Remember the furore about banning the sale of PS2s to Iraq because the chips could be used in missile guidance systems?

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    3. Re:if that is necessary... by databyss · · Score: 2, Funny

      First off, every Whateverian that I've met has been a complete prick, and undeserving of entry into such a contest.

      Second, it's probably due to the legality of shipping the prizes.

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  2. what about existing extensions? by brenddie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    are they elegible?

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  3. Japan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Stupid of them to leave out Japan and other parts of Asia ... there's lots of good geeks who could build good extensions there.

    1. Re:Japan by zecg · · Score: 2, Informative

      The very (IMHO) finest of Firefox extensions (when regarding complexity, usefulness, ergonomics and overall polish), ever - Scrapbook is from Japan.

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    2. Re:Japan by AnonymousBystander · · Score: 2, Informative

      From the FAQ:
      Is the contest open to International entries?

      Yes. Please see the contest rules for more information.

      and I don't see the US + EU + CA only rules in the official rules

  4. Experienced vs Novices by clear_thought_05 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wonder how the little guys (ex: SVG Switcher for FF1.5) will compete with the big guys (ex: Web Dev Toolbar).

    I just hope that the small guys are judged fairly and those with years of experience don't just take over the whole competition. Or maybe that's okay, because in the end (perhaps) it will be the big serious guys against eachother and all the newcomers pretty much don't have a chance.

    Just my opinion, I wonder what others might think.

    1. Re:Experienced vs Novices by booch · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My opinion is that you're smoking crack. The Web Developer extension is written by a single person. What makes you think that it's unfair that he has had some experience? It doesn't appear that he's getting paid for his work (except the PayPal donation button on his site). He's an amateur too. Maybe we should restrict the Olympics to first-time athletes, to make it "fair".

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  5. Why only U.S., Canadian and European contestants?? by Livino · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I though Mozilla and the whole free and open source movement was about, well, openness in the first place... Now they're shutting out 85% of the world! (and possibly a similar proportion of the world's developers if Brazil, India, China, South Africa etc. are taken into account. I'm assuming Russia is being included in Europe)

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  6. Re:Why only U.S., Canadian and European contestant by slavemowgli · · Score: 2, Informative

    They were talking about the EU, not Europe, so Russia is out as well.

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  7. extentions are great..... by Celt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Without the 30-40 extentions that I make use of on a daily basis I would have properly have moved to Opera by now, but the extentions make firefox great so I continue to use it :)

    As well as the excellent extentions like adblock, tabbed browser prefs and sessionsaver its also the little extentions like GMail Delete Button, Wellrounded and MediaPlayerConnectivity that make Firefox a great browser.

    Good idea that their running a competition as I'm sure it'll ensure their are even more great extentions in the future, I just hope developers update then as time goes on.

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    1. Re:extentions are great..... by Mostly+a+lurker · · Score: 2, Informative

      I agree with you that extensions are what makes Firefox as good a browser as it is. However, I have become very wary of trying to run with too many. In my experience, there is a tendency for extensions to conflict with each other. As a result, I now only include those that I consider genuinely important. Those with marginal utility, even though they may be nice, no longer have a place in my system. For me, about a dozen extensions give me most of what I want: the days of 30-40 extensions are over.

  8. Re:Québec by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's okay... Quebec's language police probably would confiscate the computer in anyhow, since it's unlikely that "ArticlesÉtrangers" appears in a significantly larger font than "AlienWare"....

  9. Want to win? by mr_tommy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why not buld a bit torrent client into Firefox? See this bug on Bugzilla for a start point; I'm pretty sure you'd have a good chance if you put this together!

    1. Re:Want to win? by adamjudson · · Score: 2, Informative

      You could use http://tamperdata.mozdev.org/ to change the
      referer on the fly...

      A

  10. Dumb Move. by donnacha · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Better check your passports first though, as those outside the US, EU and Canada (or in Québec) are ineligible to enter.
    And they wonder why take-up has been lower outside the US?

    Dumb, dumb, dumb. Especially when it comes to extensions - my rough recollection is that most of the best extensions seem to be by Europeans.

    They're probably going to claim that they had no choice because it's tricky/expensive to ship electronics outside the States but, c'mon, how hard would it have been to arrange an alternative prize, at least to avoid rubbing the world's nose in it at a time when America isn't exactly the most popular kid in the class. If Mozcorp has a PR, he/she should probably reconsider his/her position.

  11. javascript verification, please by Isomorph · · Score: 2, Informative

    Someone make a Javasript verificater.

    I have been programing some javascript programs, but they
    don't work when I move to Opera or MSIE.

    A plugin that could check if the code is standart complient
    whould be great.

    Or if the plugin know what code can't run on MSIE.

  12. Where does TFA mention geographic restrictions? by Agelmar · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've read TFA, and I can't see anywhere where the rules prohibit entries from Japan etc. The only thing in the rules I can see that mentions geography is "These official rules will be void where any provision thereof would be found invalid by a court of competent jurisdiction. If you are a resident of such a jurisdiction, you may not participate in the Contest." and later, "...he/she is a resident of a jurisdiction where these official rules may be enforced in their entirety and without modification."

    Nowhere does it specifically limit the contest to USA,CAN,EU that I can find - I'm wondering where the OP got this? Can anyone shed further light on the subject?

    1. Re:Where does TFA mention geographic restrictions? by Otter · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's in the contest rules...

    2. Re:Where does TFA mention geographic restrictions? by Agelmar · · Score: 2, Informative

      Interesting - it's in the "Contest Rules", but not in the "Official Contest Rules". That's most odd in my book.

  13. Re:Why only U.S., Canadian and European contestant by RollingThunder · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Considering that Quebec is NOT in the permitted list, it probably has to do with the legality of awarding a prize. Quebec has wierd laws about that and almost every contest I see in BC has some rider about "not valid in Quebec".

    So, they probably verified it was OK in the US, the EU, and non-Quebec Canada, but either couldn't or didn't verify it was legal elsewhere and thus don't allow entrants from nonvalidated places.

    (Sorry if that makes no sense, I'm just ending a nightshift here)

  14. dont leave us out! by shrewd · · Score: 3, Funny

    theres alot of talent in antarctica, why should they be excluded?

  15. Then why is Quebec excluded? by dmoen · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Remember the furore about banning the sale of PS2s to Iraq...

    So MozCorp is worried that those crafty Quebecois will use the first prize to build weapons of mass destruction?

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    1. Re:Then why is Quebec excluded? by Whafro · · Score: 4, Informative

      Meeting legal requirements for contests limited just to the United States is often a very difficult chore. I see how much work the attorneys in the advertising/competition group in my firm go to for each such proposed contest, and am glad I'm not in that group.

      It gets exponentially more difficult when you go into other countries, with completely different rules and regulations.

      So in contrast, I am impressed that they went to the trouble of making it as international as they feasibly could without bankrupting themselves on legal fees and delaying the contest for another year while it was approved.

  16. Better pop-up extentions? by NXprime · · Score: 4, Informative

    Better pop-up extentions? 1. A popup blocker that works %100 of the time. Even with Firefox 1.5 Beta2 build, I still get a popup by clicking this link http://www.activewin.com/awin/default.asp and then clicking anywhere on the page at all. Appearently they have a javascript that knows when you're 'touching' a webpage? I have to highlight text to read better so I don't know why this is going on. I do have my settings set at opening pages or user clicked popups in the same window as the current tab. Don't know if that's causing it or not. Is there a nicer Windows news website than Activewin? I'm really starting to hate that pop-up infested site. 2. Flash pop-up detector. Go here. http://www.cleveland.com/ a flash ad flys across the page. I like using Flashblock that blocks all flash (yeah, right) until I allow it to. Happens sometimes on yahoo.com news pages too. I guess I'm asking for a noscript type extension, but is dormant until I ask it to block scripts for a webpage since it's only these websites driving me nuts right now. A blacklist if you will. I spent more time messing with NoScript extension then going to my daily 45 websites. Plus I like installing a new clean install of firefox and updated extensions meaning I don't have time redoing this crap all the time. Disabling SOME scripts for websites would be cool too. Spellcheck as you type for Firefox would be a killer extension too. :)

    1. Re:Better pop-up extentions? by john83 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I went to both sites too. No pop-ups, no flying flash ads. I'm using Firefox 1.07 with Adblock (personalised filters).

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  17. Re:The MozCorp .... by cybergrue · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is because the rules for contests winnings in Qubec are comnpletely different then anywhere else in North America. If I recall correctly, the major difference is that a percentage of the potential winnings has to be given to the Qubec government as a tax for the contest to be run there, even if it is not won by a Qubecor. That an a whole lot more paper work means that residents of Qubec are excluded from most contests run in North America.

  18. Re:The MozCorp .... by frankcow · · Score: 2, Informative

    Dude, every person in Québec believes they're not in Canada either!!!!

  19. A plugin idea by baxissimo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'd like to see a plugin that lets me override annoying javascript that prevents resizing windows. It's my window damnit, I should be able to resize it if I want to. Or a plugin which lets me add the standard menu bar to a window that doesn't have it if I want the window to have a freaking menu bar.

    Ok, probably not bedazzling enough to win the competition, but it would still be a great plugin to have.

  20. Re:Why only U.S., Canadian and European contestant by Predathar · · Score: 3, Informative

    Quebec does have special rules and regulations, but mainly the problem with contests is that there is a FEE to be paid to the province in order to have a contest. Yes that's right, if you want to include Quebec in a contest, you must first pay up, something about a fee to make sure the contest is not bogus... to protect the consumer or something like that I seem to recall.

  21. The reason by bcore · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's not political or anything, Quebec just has REALLY strict contest laws that require the contest promoters to jump through a lot of hoops. Most contests here in Canada are usually advertized as being "contest void in Quebec" or whatever to that effect.

    Here's a bit more info

  22. Re:Why Québec? It's your laws... by denis-The-menace · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's your laws...I think.
    I see many contests advertized that exclude Quebec.

    I don't even know if McDonald's Monopoly game is valid in Quebec. If it is, you probably can't use game pieces from quebec for the game outside of quebec and vice-versa.

    My guess is that there probably is a law in Quebec that wants to have a chunk of the prize winnings reserved for the public in Quebec. Such a law would skew the contest towards Quebec, hench the exclusion.

    IOW: It's not you. It's your laws and politicians that are screwing Quebec'ers from participating in many contests.

    BTW: If you think Quebec is "La belle province" now, wait till you separate. Those elitist politicians will finally be able to have their "Cuba of the North" and all you'll be able to say about the good'ol days is: "Je me souviens".

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  23. Re:Why Québec? by Serapth · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah. We are part of the Canada. We are important. They don't want us to leave but we can't even participate to Mozilla contests. WTF?

    Who says we dont want you to leave?

  24. Maybe they should fix broken extensions first? by dyoung9090 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I love Firefox and everything, but when I upgraded to one of the 1.5 betas (because everyone told me about all the new things that were going to be in it, which were admittedly small stuff like being able to reorganize my tabs) half of my extensions went bye-bye. Some came back when they were fixed, but others... not so much. A little while after the second beta came out I decided to get that too, thinking that I was over the extensions I could no longer use and that enough time had passed so that the ones I used (and surely every other person using Firefox) must have been updated as well. Not the case.

    Needless to say, I went with reckless abandon into RC1 and will probably go to the official version as soon as it's out, just to get there. My hope is that the developers of most of the extensions I used were waiting for a more stable build and so in the future I should just wait until those come out instead of jumping into the newest upgrade for a few random features.

    Now, there's going to be a dozen people telling me "Quit complaining, start programming" but I hope this comes off more as "constructive criticism" than anything else because of the web-browser user base (all 87% percent of the US or whatever number it is), a good 75 have never, can never and will never program (unless it becomes simplified to the point of telling your computer in plain language what you want it to do and it cobbles together something... "I want something to remember my recipes and generates a shopping list and gets approximate prices from the internet" and 30 seconds later a fully functional database comes out.)

    Although the percentage of coders to non-coders may be higher with Firefox, the high priests of Firefox are desperate for a piece of that mainstream market. If I show Firefox and all that I can make it do to a friend who wants it installed, I don't want to tell that friend "now, never, EVER install an update because you'll lose half of the functions you've become accustomed too, at least for a little while but possibly forever" because they'll say screw it and stick with IE.

    I loved Aardvark (it was so handy in cleaning up Mapquest stuff, news articles...) but it's become increasingly broke and in RC1 it's apparently fully dead until I hunt for the website (it didn't play well with the updater) to see if it's got an update. Stop-or-reload... same thing. Grease Monkey? Gone. Try searching for a torrent using the new Firefox. Now, these middle-adapters, the ones you have to prove the value of software to, aren't known for being upgrade happy (think your mom, still running IE 5 how many years after 6.0?) or else they may have tried Firefox earlier, but when they do upgrade, they don't want to switch to a different, competing extension becuase there's is broken, nor do they want to lose functionality they've become used to.

    The extensions are awesome, best part of the browser but I think down the road the breakability of extensions is going to throttle the number of new-users. Think of old Netscape where slowly it became a nerd-only alternative, depsite their protests that it was more secure/more capable/better browser but IE kept winning people over because it (a) kept adapting to enable new features (I can't think of any, but that's because I haven't used Netscape since 2000), and (b) retained most of it's features.

    IMO, people would rather use something that lacks features but has all the ones they're attached to than use something that introduces them to new features, and then takes them away.

    Not every extension is going to be the next big thing... that extension so useful that the browser gods themselves reach down to integrate it into their next version, but if there's a user base at all for it, they're not going to like being told they can't use it with the newest toys because the developer didn't think there was enough of a user base to continue his support. Yeah, it's his or her decision to not update, but the user isn't going to care... they're going to blame Firefox.

    Then again, this whole theory only applies to the semi-casual users who know enough to find and love extensions and not to the people who don't know anything about extensions or will just be using the browser as is.

  25. RTFRN! by geobeck · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's the whole reason they have pre-release software; so extension writers have a chance to update their code before final release.

    If you want everything to work right away, don't use beta software!

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  26. Réfléchir avant de parler! (About Quebec by nierdal · · Score: 5, Informative

    The reason why Quebec is excluded is because here in Quebec the lottery is regulated by the RACJ, a goverment agency. The lottery have is own laws, and therefore if the Mozilla Fundation do not accept to fill the papers that loto Quebec ask for they cannot participate.

    See : http://www.racj.gouv.qc.ca/section.asp?lang=en&noS ection=4&noGrappe=5

    Also, I would be great if the slashdot community would stop bashing Quebec about the "language police". THERE IS NOT LANGUAGE POLICE IN QUEBEC, this is bullshit!. There are only laws that make in sort that everything must be written in french on commercial products, and that the french must occupate the same space than the english. That's all! So if a consummer see a poorly written french on a products or an ad, it can make a complaint to the Quebec french language office that will HELP the seller to translate is products to french. You heard it right! They will HELP without any fees!

    Why this? Hey we are 6 millions french (and 1 million english) in Quebec. There's 330 millions english speaker around US! How you would expect US to keep our language without laws? If you were 6 millions english speaker with 330 millions spanish what would you do if you were actualy enjoying your cultural heritage? You would not stand up to protect your liberty of speaking whatever language you want?

    That's why the law is there.

    See Wikipedia if you want to lean a bit more about Quebec. Very good description IMHO. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec

    (Oh and sorry I know my english isn't that good..)

  27. Re:Réfléchir avant de parler! (About Que by anaesthetica · · Score: 2, Funny
    (Oh and sorry I know my english isn't that good..)
    You better be sorry. This is the Quebec Language Police. Your post doesn't give equal space to the French language. Due to a provision in our extradition treaty, you are to be sent to Le Gitmo. Have a bon day.
  28. What about SeaMonkey? by alexo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Does it support plugins and, if it does, can it use the FireFox/ThunderBird ones?