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Linspire CEO Offers S. Korea To Replace Windows

Spy der Mann writes "Noticing the Microsoft threat to withdraw Windows from South Korea, the Linspire CEO, Kevin Carmony, just offered to license every computer in the country with Linspire, for just $5m. This would be around 10 cents / person. 'South Korea could save around a quarter of a billion dollars. More importantly, however, it would break South Korea loose from the monopolistic grasp of Microsoft, which the country currently finds itself under,'"

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  1. A mixed bag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While I'm sure the slashbots will shout and cry about the virtues of linux (despite being Linspire), it sounds more like a grab for attention than anything serious. While I'm sure Carmony could make a bundle on the deal, could he really support all of South Korea? I wonder if he even has a team of translators for the major world languages to begin with!

    1. Re:A mixed bag by Frankie70 · · Score: 4, Funny

      could he really support all of South Korea?

      He, he could. He could direct all of Korea to Linux
      newsgroups & mailing lists, where geeks will flame
      Koreans to code fixes what bugs they find.

    2. Re:A mixed bag by iamelgringo000 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'll be sure to brush up on how to say "RTFM" in Korean.

    3. Re:A mixed bag by Daengbo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      All my male, teen students do in their free time is play Starcraft. When I go to a restaurant near lunchtime, the TV is always on OnGameNet (AKA 24 hours CS / Starcraft). The female teens all play MAple Story (online MMORPG). The young adults that I know spend their evenings playing Kart Rider (online racing). Everybody wants to be a progamer when he or she grows up.

      As much as I want Linux to succeed here in S. Korea, HanSoft's 3.2 version is already free, and it isn't doing their market share any good.

      Not a chance of this happening in the private sector.

  2. Open letter to S. Korea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cool, just do it

  3. I've got a better offer. by rathehun · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:I've got a better offer. by Spacejock · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'd suggest Gentoo but they'd have to build more power stations to cope with millions of CPUs at 100% for 3 or 4 days.

    2. Re:I've got a better offer. by imr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I've got a better offer.
      What about they try to find a local solution that will be better localised, that will have local support, that will create jobs, that will keep their cash inside the country, all this meaning that it will help develop a local well adapted independant IT which will benefit their country as a whole?

    3. Re:I've got a better offer. by highwind81 · · Score: 5, Informative

      We do have our own distro.

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  4. Support? by mukund · · Score: 4, Interesting

    He's going to provide support for 50 million computers at 10 cents each? Would be quite tough.

    If there is no support involved, I'd like to provide South Korea with Linux for 50 million computers in the form of either CentOS, Fedora or Ubuntu for free and free with "community support".

    What's the deal?

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    1. Re:Support? by swillden · · Score: 4, Funny

      He's going to provide support for 50 million computers at 10 cents each? Would be quite tough.

      Wouldn't be hard at all, if he's just going to match the support Microsoft provides.

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  5. Most Koreans Websites IE only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Almost any korean website seems to be made for IE, and especially things like clubbox.co.kr, those only work with ActiveX plugins ... doubt koreans are really ready to change their oses ...

  6. In South Korea ... by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... only old people will keep using MS Windows.

  7. If you give up Windows... by MisaDaBinksX4evah · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll give you South Korea.

    Where do I sign up?

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  8. no way this happens until... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    they have starcraft for linux

  9. That is EXACTLY what Linux needs by RoLi · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Linux needs M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G

    Just look at Mozilla and Firefox and you see what a difference a little marketing can make.

  10. Just this?!! by linumax · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This would be around 10 cents / person. 'South Korea could save around a quarter of a billion dollars.

    Right, and how much would be the cost of Win->Lin transition? Training thousands of people? Porting millions of lines of code? Translating all the stuff? and so forth. Whoever told this must take a look my signature!

  11. In Korea, Computer = Windows PC with IE by ThreeDayMonk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That's my experience, too. Even if they don't require ActiveX, very few Korean websites will actually display properly in another browser - even fewer if you use a pop-up blocker. I don't think that anyone tests on anything else.

    Korean computer culture seems to be even more homogenised than it is in other countries. Everyone uses Windows; everyone's on MSN Messenger; everyone has a Cyworld Mini-hompy[1]. My iBook received interesting responses: those that had heard of Macs thought that they were tools for graphic artists.

    In addition, there's a big limitation in that SEED, a Korean 128-bit encryption system used in online banking since the days of US 40-bit-only export restrictions, is only supported in IE; although there are moves to port it to Firefox, it hasn't been completed yet, as far as I know.

    1. Mini-homepage, a sort of personalised blog/music/photo-sharing site. They are literally miniature, too: even on a large monitor, the 'mini-hompy' is limited to a few hundred pixels in each direction in the centre of the page.

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  12. Re:Nice marketing stunt by NickFortune · · Score: 4, Interesting
    but I don't think South Korea, as a whole, is going to jump on this...

    It's an interesting dilemma for the S. Korean Govt. Giving in to Microsoft would be like negotiating with terrorists - if you cave in to them, it sends the message that blackmail works, and they'll do it again.

    Consequently, South Korea's might feel their best interests like in making the switch, trading the short term inconvenience of the migration against getting out from under the thumb of one of the planet's more rapacious corporations.

    This could get very interesting :D

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  13. Replacement? by cluening · · Score: 5, Funny

    Linspire CEO Offers S. Korea To Replace Windows

    It definitely sounds like an interesting idea, but how is South Korea going to run on my machine? Plus, having the whole country installed on my drive sounds like it will take up a _lot_ of space...

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  14. Re:Crippled Linux? by NickFortune · · Score: 4, Funny
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/01/22/register_t ariff/

    Just because it's funny doesn't mean they're joking.

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  15. Generous Offer by toupsie · · Score: 4, Funny
    Linspire CEO Offers S. Korea To Replace Windows

    That is one generous offer by the Linspire CEO. I give up Windows and he will give me South Korea? I would take him up on the offer but I would be kind of nervous about North Korea blowing it up. Plus Windows probably has a lower cost of operation than entire country of South Korea.

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  16. Free publicity, and not too shabby a deal by pvera · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It was a bold move, and it did not cost him a penny to do it. If he pulls it off he'll be 5m ahead of where he is right now, since his market share in ROK is pretty much zero. If he pulls it off he also gets to use it as a precedent to go country-by-country offering blanket licenses, which will make Linspire some good money and will royally piss off Microsoft.

    Regardless of the merits of Lindows v. all the other Linux distributions out there, this is all about marketing, and it was the right thing to do. Microsoft cannot even afford a counter offer, since this will set the same kind of precedent and every government in the world is going to demand a blanket license like that.

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  17. Not gonna happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm currently studying abroad in South Korea and there's no way Koreans would give up Windows. The whole society LOVES Windows. Internet Explorer and excessive use of Active-X are king. Everybody here has Cyworld (a Myspace type deal) and you can't access about half of its content without using Internet Explorer on Windows. Plus Nespot, the nation's largest free wireless service, requires you to be running a Windows machine to use their client. PC Bangs all use Windows as video gaming is huge here and every game runs off of Windows.

    Hell, almost every machine at Space 9 (a huge technology store) comes with the latest Vista beta installed. It's going to take a lot more than offering Linspire to the whole country to make a switch like that. I agree it's just free marketing.

  18. Insightful, not funny by Froobly · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is not funny. This is true. You can joke all you want, "Starcraft kekekeke," but it doesn't change the fact that computer games are a major part of life over there, and even after all these years, Starcraft is still king. If Microsoft pulled out of Korea, their popular culture would be sent reeling.

    Well, for about six months. After six months, all the game manufacturers start pushing Linux in a big way, since there's no way any of them would leave Korea of their own free will -- and they sure as hell won't let Microsoft pull them out without a good fight.

    South Korea's got some 17 million PC gamers. How many does America have? If you count consoles, it's probably no contest, but I'm under the impression that PC gaming is a bit of a niche market in the US. I wouldn't be surprised if South Korea has more PC gamers than the entire US, even with only 1/6 the population.

    No, the day Microsoft pulls out of Korea is the day that Blizzard and NC Soft shift focus to Linux. Once that happens, the hardware vendors start writing decent drivers for Linux, and all of a sudden Linux doesn't suck as a gaming platform anymore, and Windows becomes an "also supported" platform.

    This is a bluff, and Microsoft stands to lose a lot from it. They've set the charges and are pushing the plunger from inside the parking garage.