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Virtual Property Investor Recoups Investment

afaik_ianal writes "Remember that guy who bought a virtual island in "Project Entropia" for £13,700? Well BBC is reporting that that he has managed to make his money back in under a year. According to the article, 'He made money by selling land to build virtual homes as well as taxing other gamers to hunt or mine on the island.'"

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  1. Bank loan by ebsf1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hmm...I can see it now. Yes Mr Bank Manager...I'd like a loan to buy an island. Where is it? Well...it's virtual...

    1. Re:Bank loan by lordofthechia · · Score: 3, Funny

      "I'd like a loan to buy an island."

      So do they come to get you in the real world or the online world if you default. Be pretty funny if the bank had its own guild.

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      Georgia Tech, the leader in Chia(tm) technology.
  2. So this proves... by nelomolen · · Score: 5, Funny

    that either this guy is incredibly smart and the people who bought into his virtual property are incredibly stupid, or that he's incredibly stupid and everyone who bought into his virtual property is... well, still incredibly stupid.

    -barton

    1. Re:So this proves... by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The funny thing is, this analysis may apply to the real estate market in the real world, as well.

    2. Re:So this proves... by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 3, Interesting

      William Gibson noted, "cyberspace is where the bank keeps your money." If one's wealth itself is essentially just bits and consensus, why not the real estate?

      Because you're only a floating point error away from being a billionaire.

  3. Virtual Property by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Virtual Property, eh? Not at all like domain names, right?

    Online "property" has as much value as people are willing to pay for it. This is why we spend thousands of dollars on shiny rocks and metals (to say nothing of the diamond cartel). This is also why we hold onto generally worthless items because of sentimental value. (I had my Chuck Taylor All-Stars for years after they were too worn out to wear).

    So I'm not surprised that this guy is making money. He found something that he expected people would want, and snatched it up so he could be the one to sell it to 'em.

  4. Developer's Giddy by cbrhea · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Now they can create another virtual island that's even sweeter and sell it for even more money.

    copy virtual_island1 virtual_island2
    print money

    Not a bad deal for the island-buyer either, as long as they've determined the risks, ie. the game's subscriber base withering away.

  5. Re:Clever angle though by ImaLamer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What this guy has done is create a service whereby he can onsell his asset at a low price point. Not really that stupid after all.

    The same rules apply in the virtual world. You've got an area you call your own, the resources on said area are also your own. You could try to get a return on your investment by holding these resources until the time is right to sell, sell off portions of the resource or do nothing and be happy spending money.

    Would you live on a farm that produced no product? If there were natural resources such as gems, petroleum or even attractions like waterfalls wouldn't you be at least thinking about ways to make money on them? Sure, there are some that would let people see the attraction for free, ignore the value of minerals that must be harvested in crude ways or refuse to let people shoot their animals and hook their fish for any reason, especially for money.

    It's exactly like buying an island and turning a third into a resort, a third into destination spots (businesses, pristine land, room for activities) and leaving the remainder to your own enjoyment.

    I mean, this guy does hunt on his own virtual island right?

  6. It'd almost be worth buying an acre or two by Flower · · Score: 3, Funny
    just so I could trash the place up and bring the property values down. Cut down some of that scenic view to build my shack, grab some low-res tires to plant some flowers that I can't keep alive alive anyway and play a boombox so I can blast techno/rap/heavy metal gospel across the neighborhood. Mow the lawn? You gotta be kidding me.

    And nobody better be touching my still out in back....

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    I don't want knowledge. I want certainty. - Law, David Bowie
  7. Re:Wow. by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ahem, this first post land is currently owned by CmdrTaco

    You must pay rent to use this space.

    Forward funds to his account immediately or you will be evicted.

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    liqbase :: faster than paper
  8. Re:Real Life (TM) by BushCheney08 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Reboot yourself!

    I'm trying, but I'm having a hard time getting the paperclip in the hole on my backside. Can you give me a hand?

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    Be a real patriot: Question authority. Think for yourself. Formulate your own conclusions.
  9. Glorified Slots machine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Project Entropia's fundamental idea is that everything in game has a real-world value. You begin the game with nothing; and must purchase in-game items with real money. Items you use to harvest resources, kill monsters, or any other activity which generates saleable objects in the system decay over time. You give Project Entropia money to buy objects in game, that money flows into MindArk. When you sell an object and withdraw real life cash, that money flows away from MindArk.

    Given that, the Project Entropia system cannot generate rewards greater than the amount of money fed into the system, minus however much MindArk takes off the top.

    You are using a virtual tool that decays, purchased with real money, attempting to generate a positive income in a system already rigged to prevent such a scenario on average. Your tool will break, and you will buy another one, in the hopes of getting that big payoff. It's a gambling system dressed in some livelier colors.

  10. Just another Luxury by e2d2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This got me to think a bit, how is this any different from buying an over priced pair of shoes? or a nice car that costs $250k USD? Or a diamond necklace that is not truly rare at all? It's an idea that is being sold, and idea that this particular exchange has value. Market value, someone is willing to pay.

    I personally don't see the need or even want in this but it's not my money..

  11. Re:Smart Guy by Flower · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No. This guy understood the phenomenon of the pet rock and the wisdom of "There's a sucker born every minute."

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    I don't want knowledge. I want certainty. - Law, David Bowie
  12. Time involved? by jebiester · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It would be interesting to find out how much time he spent selling his sub-divisions or enforcing his taxes. If this took the equivalent of a full time job or a lot of time, he hasn't necessarily made any money back, just earned a small wage as well as loosing part of his initial investment in the sales.

  13. Advice.... by greenguy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Everyone always told me to invest in land, because "they're not making any more of it!"

    Little did everyone know....

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    What if I do the same thing, and I do get different results?
  14. All your virtual items are belong to us! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    From the "Project Entropia Conditions of Use":

    As part of your interactions with the System, you may acquire, create, design, or modify Virtual items, but you agree that you will not gain any ownership interest whatsoever in any Virtual item, and you hereby assign to MindArk all of your rights, title and interest in any such Virtual item.

    From the sound of it, the user doesn't own anything... I wish I could sell nothing for $100,000.

  15. Re:Virtual Property -- Supply and Demand by joecode · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not so. The domain name space is stricly limited. But there is an unlimited supply of virtual reality. Therefore: It's just a pyramid scheme in disguise.

  16. Interview with the investor by vmardian · · Score: 3, Informative
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    PowerLevel.com - A next generation marketplace for virtual items and services