Slashdot Mirror


360 Launch Lineup Released

Gamespot reports that the much-discussed launch title list for the Xbox 360 is now available. The list, from the article: "Amped 3 (2K Sports), Call of Duty 2 (Activision), Condemned: Criminal Origins (Sega), FIFA 06: Road to the World Cup (Electronic Arts), Gun (Activision), Kameo: Elements of Power (Microsoft Game Studios), Madden NFL 06 (Electronic Arts), NBA 2K6 (2K Sports), NBA Live 06 (Electronic Arts), Need for Speed Most Wanted (Electronic Arts), NHL 2K6 (2K Sports), Perfect Dark Zero (Microsoft Game Studios), Peter Jackson's King Kong (Ubisoft), Project Gotham Racing 3 (Microsoft Game Studios), Quake 4 (Activision), Ridge Racer 6 (Namco), Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06 (Electronic Arts), Tony Hawk's American Wasteland (Activision)"

23 of 163 comments (clear)

  1. holy shit! by syrinx · · Score: 3, Funny

    A bunch of sports games and FPS's! On the new XBox! Who would have guessed?

    (I don't suppose the XBox comes with, you know, a mouse, or some other controller that would actually make a console FPS fun?)

    --
    Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur.
    1. Re:holy shit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
      (I don't suppose the XBox comes with, you know, a mouse, or some other controller that would actually make a console FPS fun?)

      Sure it does! You'll have to get an older version of the Xbox360 (i.e. it won't look as shiny, nor does it come with built-in wireless controllers), but you should be able to pick up one at Best Buy for $300-400 or so. Best part about it is that there's no artificial shortages, and a lot of these games have already been released (and even discounted)!

      So: you head down to Best Buy, go to the "computer" section, and ask the nice customer service guy if you could buy a "computer" (which is what they call non-TV Xbox360 machines). It'll probably come with a mouse and a keyboard, and perhaps even a monitor if you're lucky.

  2. What a bunch of junk by voice_of_all_reason · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Half of them are sports clones. These are the games you'll see in 2 months in the bargain bin for $10. Why not just release the 4-5 decent games and have a stellar-rated lineup then filling up the shelves with crap?

    1. Re:What a bunch of junk by theantipop · · Score: 2, Informative

      Because a) all the games they sell are brand-new, and b) the first tenate of retail is to keep inventory full. Just because you or I don't like sports games doesn't mean everyone agrees.

    2. Re:What a bunch of junk by (A)*(B)!0_- · · Score: 5, Informative
      Well, even though your example is completely anecdotal and has no reason to be in a discussion of what sells and doesn't sell - my guess would be is that since Walmart gets many more copies of the highest selling games in, there are going to be more left.

      Now for reality: Video Game Sales for Last Year

      1 - Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - PS2 - Take II Interactive
      2 - Halo 2* - XBX - Microsoft
      3 - Madden NFL 2005* - PS2 - Electronic Arts
      4 - ESPN NFL 2K5 - PS2 - Take II Interactive
      5 - Need For Speed: Underground 2 - PS2 - Electronic Arts
      6 - Pokemon Fire Red W/ Adapter - GBA - Nintendo of America
      7 - NBA Live 2005 - PS2 - Electronic Arts
      8 - Spider-Man: The Movie 2 - PS2 - Activision
      9 - Halo - XBX - Microsoft
      10 - ESPN NFL 2K5 - XBX - Take II Interactive
      Guess what - sports games sell. I know it's popular to look down on playing sports games on Slashdot but there's really no reason for it. Different people enjoy different types of games. Just as I don't insult people who enjoy D&D (even though I myself don't play D&D) I don't look down on others who do. Let people play the games they want to play. If, in your eyes, the games aren't appealing, don't buy them. But since you don't enjoy them and, I presume, don't play them, you're not really in a position to determine which ones are good and bad. Enough of the 'I'm too intellectual for sports games and FPS games'-attitude; they're all games. I own both Katamari Damacy and Madden 2006 - neither of those games is a reflection of my manhood and/or intellectual capability. People who think that way and equate playing sports games with being stupid are the ones with the lacking intellect.
  3. Re:Not exactly by ClownsScareMe · · Score: 2, Funny

    Steve, is that you?

    --
    I read Slashdot for the articles
  4. Holy sequels Batman! by holySherm · · Score: 4, Informative

    18 total games at launch. 14 of which are sequels. 15 unoriginal games if you count King Kong. Yet, people will still buy the roster updates in droves and reinforce the gaming industry's (mainly EA's) lust for easy cash from recycled crap. Though I definitely expect to see half of these games on ebay for $30 right after launch since they're forcing you to buy the games with the systems. New system and theres just 1-2 new and creative titles made for launch and the sequels aren't even adding anything new to the game like Mario 64 did for the n64 when it created the first 3d platformer, sequel yes, but at least something new.

    1. Re:Holy sequels Batman! by Red+Flayer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If I were a game publisher and I was risking a ton of dev $$ on a game for a new console, and I was pretty certain that the game wouldn't have a markedly upgraded appearance over late-gen games for the previous console...

      You can bet I'd publish a low-risk title like a sequel. Especially until my dev team was able to make better use of the next-gen capabilities.

      --
      "Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
    2. Re:Holy sequels Batman! by generic-man · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Like the PlayStation or GameCube are any better: Dance Dance Revolution Extreme 2, Dynasty Warriors 5, Romance of the Three Kingdoms X, Final Fantasy XII, Mario Party 7, Dragon Quest VIII, Soul Calibur III, and even We Love Katamari (remember the original, the game that was supposed to rid us of derivative games? It has a sequel).

      --
      For more information, click here.
    3. Re:Holy sequels Batman! by generic-man · · Score: 2, Funny

      Terribly sorry. When my game company wants to release a sequel to one of our extremely popular games, I will have to contact MilenCent first by e-mail to see if the game "deserves a sequel.' If MilenCent does not approve, we will have to shelve the project.

      Sincerely,
      Lawrence F. Probst III
      Chief Executive Officer, Electronic Arts

      --
      For more information, click here.
    4. Re:Holy sequels Batman! by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Two points:

      1) In what way is King Kong unoriginal? Was there a video game based on the original movie that I'm not aware of? Just because it's adapted from a movie script doesn't make it unoriginal... see the Chronicles of Riddick or Spiderman II video games for proof.

      2) Though I definitely expect to see half of these games on ebay for $30 right after launch since they're forcing you to buy the games with the systems.

      You don't say who "they" is, but Microsoft isn't forcing you to buy games with the system, nor are the vast majority of retailers. Your gripe is with EB Games, GameStop and other game-specific stores that require bundling deals for pre-sales. Don't spread FUD.

  5. Pricing by Red+Flayer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    FTA: "Official price points for games have also been released, and Microsoft Game Studios is cutting gamers a break on their three launch games (Perfect Dark Zero, Project Gotham Racing 3, and Kameo: Elements of Power). MGS-published games will retail for $49.99, and third-party games will sell for $59.99."

    I really don't see how this is "cutting gamers a break." This is simply competitive pricing. MS is choosing to set a price that will increase sales on MSG games. Also, how will MS set the price on 3rd-party games? Seems shady to me.

    Sure hope there's no retaliation by MS to retailers that want to offer a different price, say, $49.99 for third-party games, because that would be, you know, illegal.

    --
    "Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
  6. Re:Titles by Grey+Ninja · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The GameCube racing games are much better than the other consoles. The others could catch up if they stopped focusing on realistic-type racing. Yes there are fantasy racing games for the Playstation but the GameCube racing games blow them away IMO. It's all a matter of perspective. And for the record, I would rather play Gran Turismo than anything on Xbox, as far as realistic racing is concerned.

  7. Re:Not exactly by the+computer+guy+nex · · Score: 2, Informative

    Couple hours at a kiosk. I call this game a 'magical Zelda' - same type of action/adventure/rpg with more based on magic.

  8. Is anyone going to buy Madden? by hal2814 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's halfway through the regular season! Madden 06 is dropping in price for the other consoles. Do they really expect to sell a lot of copies for the 360? I imagine anyone who really wanted Madden 06 already bought it for their current system. Generally, the only potential purchasers who don't buy it by the beginning of the season are waiting because they expect to pick it up cheap later on. I could understand the decision to put out Madden 64 midseason because there was no current year (98?) for the SNES and Madden 64 did legitimately add something the other systems (Saturn and Playstation) didn't have (3D instead of sprite-based). I don't see the 360 version of Madden 06 to be so far above the previous generation's version to merit the purchase.

    1. Re:Is anyone going to buy Madden? by Otter · · Score: 4, Funny
      It's halfway through the regular season!

      This is the 2006 Midseason edition, where the game consists mostly of interminable yammering about "T.O." with occasional mentions of a football game that seems to be going on in the background. Also the Pats defense has been updated to be Tedy Bruschi and 10 guys they found playing touch football in the park.

  9. Re:They're LAUNCH titles. by Fred+Or+Alive · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Erm, Halo WAS an Xbox launch title. And Super Mario 64 is often praised to high heavens (but it was the last console of it's generation to launch).

    But I agree, it's pretty rare for a truely original game to appear at launch. I kinda doubt many of the games are really destined to become long lasting classics. I'm kinda "meh" on most of them, but I do think Project Gotham 3 is certainley going to be solid (I loved PGR2), and Kameo sounds interesting. But I'm not that sure about say, Yet Another FPS, or Sports Game 2006 are going to appeal to me personally. But I'm mostly going by the titles, I don't really know enough about the games to make much of a judgement.

    Not that I can afford an Xbox 360 at launch anyway, by the time I can afford it there will probably be a better selection of games. (If I choose the get an Xbox 360 of course).

    --
    10 PRINT "LOOK AROUND YOU ";
    20 GOTO 10
  10. Re:They're LAUNCH titles. by mrgreen4242 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Uh, Halo was an Xbox launch title. It was THE Xbox launch title. Aside from PGR1 it was pretty much the only game worth buying from the XBox launch, as I recall. Also, I think you meant to say give ALL THREE consoles time. People who act like this is a two horse race (and presumably discount Nintendo as a non-player) are in for a suprise, I think. Unless you mean to say give them both a chance to see which one gets to sit next the Revolution everyone buys for the unique first party games?

  11. Re:Sports games, racing games, FPS... by Delphiki · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I think you missed my point. Every launch has a ton of sports games. So what? Lots of people enjoy sports games. You said there are two or three games you might consider buying. Yeah, that's not a lot, but there's something that you might be interested in. It's a launch line up, every player isn't going to find 10 killer games to buy. More games are coming out, so you just have to find enough games to play until something else you like comes out.

    I'm going to get a 360 soon after launch and will probably only get two games, which will be plenty until more games come out, which they obviously will. Not everyone is going to go nuts over this launch line-up but some people will and a lot of people will be able to find at least a couple games to get excited about.

    --

    Feel free to mod me "-1 - Angry Jerk".

  12. very little originality by xenomouse · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The only games listed above that didn't appear to be tied to an existing property or an existing game franchise were Kameo and Gun. I know it has been more noticeable recently in the current game market, but I worry that the next generation consoles (with their incredibly high budget games) will solidify the publishers' aversion to original titles. There is some truth to the saying, "if it's not broken, don't bother fixing it." But there is also truth in, "familiarity breeds contempt."

    Come to think of it, it seems the game industry is suffering from the same ailment as all the other entertainment industries.

  13. Re:No originality here by Gulthek · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What's your case? What system do you think had a stellar launch/lineup?

    Remember how many games the SNES opened with? The N64? the Playstation?

  14. Re:Sports games, racing games, FPS... by Thrakkerzog · · Score: 3, Informative

    The gamecube had 12 launch titles.

  15. Do they think this will do well in Japan? by Necromutant · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I thought that MS was going to try and win over some gamers in Japan this time around... that lineup for launch will likely only perpetuate their being the but of jokes in Japan as none of that is going to sell a system or get people excited there.

    --
    ~Necromutant