PS3 Industry Leader In 2007?
1up has a piece on a report indicating that the PS3 will likely be dominant in the industry by the holiday season of 2007. From the article: "Research and Markets also foresees online gaming becoming an increasingly important part of the gaming experience, with Microsoft's Xbox Live service leading the charge. The research overview provides no speculative details on whether Sony or Nintendo's services will be comparative. The next-generation console market as a whole will actually peak in 2008 according to the report, eventually generating $21.9 billion, whereas software sales will rise through 2010 at $16.8 billion. "
Sony may have a usable devkit that doesn't cause permanent brain-damage by then.
The difference between the 360 and PS3 is pretty much an ideological one only - PS3 is designed with a focus on hardware power and capability, while the 360 is focussed on software architecture.
Notice how the antedeluvian PS2 hardware can still keep up with modern boxes - that's the payoff of Sony's approach. Conversely, the payoff of MS' approach is more solid launch titles and Live.
Besides that underlying core difference, they're pretty much Coke and Pepsi. I couldn't care less who wins....
at any rate, I'm buying a Rev.
Another journalist predicted that the PS3 would fail because Microsoft would reduce the 360's price around the PS3 launch, and then release Halo 3 the same day as the PS3 launch. The exact opposite of 1up's position.
So, why should we assume that 1up's predictions are any more accurate? Why should we trust any of these predictions, for that matter?
I predict the Nokia N-Gage 17 will be the leader in 2051. Just as valid as these other predictions.
"Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home" - Cicero
Anyway, the detail I'd like to nit-pick at is... how do they justify the huge difference in statements that "online play is becoming more significant" and "Sony will take the lead"? XBox 360's online play is VASTLY better than PS3 or Revolution. It's shocking how big of a difference there is. Is online play not going to be that significant after all, or are does PS3 have some significant strengths over the XBox that win out?
Research and Markets also foresees online gaming becoming an increasingly important part of the gaming experience
Oh come on, they have been trotting out this old chestnut since the launch of the PS2! I just don't think the majority of people are that interested in online multiplayer for consoles - people want good 'party games', or a high-quality single-player experience, Joe Blow doesn't want to be faffing about with wireless networking to get his console online in his living room. The people who are really into multiplayer get PCs.
It's "News for Nerds." Enough of these retarded speculation stories.
If they implement that signature signing for each Blu-ray disc to a specific device. The article that stated that you can only use the disc with the first device it is used on. If that is on the PS3, then i'm sure we won't see Sony soaring in console sales come 2007. Sony is not dumb enough to do that, you might ask? I think the problems with the rootkit has proven their stupidity.
If i wanted to hear bullshit, i'd go to church.
Really? Can you give us a point-by-point breakdown? I mean, I assume you've played both the PS3 and Revolution already and thus are a qualified expert on the topic.
Right?
Obviously from all reports Xbox Live is a much more robust system, but it sounds to me like you are counting your chickens just as much as TFA.
This just in: analysts change their minds yet again
oh wait, who cares what analysts think since they know nothing.
The question becomes, where are videogames going?
You lost me at "1up."
At this point, I could care less about the PS3. I have been a hardcore PS1/PS2 fan since 1995 onward and their ego is ruining them. I remember every day there was a comment from Kutaragi about the PS3 needing a second job to buy and the system may be over $500. I also have an Xbox and a Gamecube and prefer those systems to the PS2 hands down.
Sony may throw in more hype about emotion engines and all that other junk, but Microsoft will have a cheaper console with a better controller and of course a MUCH better online system with Xbox Live. This is where I see the 360 pulling ahead in the industry with the cheaper price and better online framework.
Look around everybody. I'm guessing we all see gamers on both sides. This report was for stock analysts and brokers. Reports like this have no relevance to people like us, its purpose is to "inform" those who have absolutely no idea what is going on in the gaming world other than it is a $5billion a year industry with some high performance stock. Lets leave these types of articles were they belong, because here they are just flamebait for fanboys.
Mod: -1 Flamebait to 1up.com
Ps. If you follow the game industry religiously like some of us around here do, and have some business sense, I recommend getting some stock. I've made a pretty sizable gain on EA and Gamespot and they look even better every day, despite my personal issues with some of their practices. And yea, that does make me a hypocrit, but at least I get to vote at the stockholder meeting.
I am and always will be a stereotype, because who in their right mind prefers mono?
It's being reported that Zonk will become the richest slashdot editor ever by Dec 16th because of the click-through revenue he gets from posting stories to 1up.com
Why is this even being posted on /.? These articles are insultingly stupid. "Random biased news source predicts that PR companies will strike it rich by providing incredibly inane articles to a plethora of online news sources."
When I see stories like these now, I just ignore what they say. Everyone predicts everything, and, even if they're right, it doesn't affect me, because I'll be getting a Revolution, thankyouverymuch.
Nintendo has, for a couple of generations now, been the runner up in the console wars, as far as pure sales go. But, despite this, they continue to work on their product (turning a handsome profit at the same time,) and continue putting out fun, ingenious games that I enjoy.
Plus, if it does have a smaller fanbase, that means that those who do have a Revolution are more likely the kind of players I would prefer to associate with- those who want great gameplay mechanics with nice graphics, not extreme realism with bouncing breasts (it should be noted that these are not always mutually exclusive.)
So go ahead, you mindless media whores, parade your predictions and "analysis". I'll be saving my pennies to buy a Revolution the day it comes out, no matter what you say.
depends. hardware is hardware, but most titles will look almost the same on all three consoles; limited by whichever system is the lowest common denominator. i predict it will be a repeat of this generation.
with the industry budgeoning us with sequels, i can see most users going with the system or systems that will allow them to continue to follow the franchises that they have come to enjoy. bill likes final fantasy, so chances are that he will continue following the series on playstation hardware. john likes halo so he will probably continue to follow the xbox hardware. tim likes zelda and mario so hes going to follow the nintendo hardware.
where ground will be gained is from those that switch consoles. most FPS fans, and graphics whores flocked towards the xbox, if the ps3 or revolution can grab their attention, thats where they will gain sales from. the ps2 had the highest quantity of different successful franchises in many different genres, but if the revolution and x360 can come up with more novel genres and franchises, they might steal some of that thunder from sony. so far the x360 launch and announced games are 70% sequels of non-unique franchises.
due to the lack of options for early 360 buyers, kameo and perfect dark zero will probably be best sellers. if they can keep those franchises going, who knows? for every ps2 franchise that seems to have lost its luster due to overexposure [jak and dexter, ratchet and clank... etc] they are being replaced at a good clip by new franchises [ico, god of war... etc]. the revolution [read: mario, zelda, metroid games] arent going anywhere. the ps2 has enough franchises that they can afford to drop a couple bad iterations of a series. the console thats still under the gun is the x360. one mistake with say... halo3 and the ship is sunk.
Knowing which platform will be dominant each generation just isn't that big a deal for console developer and publishing houses.
While millions were online debating PS2 vs Dreamcast or PS2 vs GameCube/Xbox, we had long known the outcome months and months before the systems hit retail shelves.
Yes, PS3 is going to be the dominant console this generation. There is no debate about that from anyone who publishes console games. You just have to look at the distribution of exclusive IP on the various platforms to see which way the wind is blowing. The same set of exclusive IP that some 95 million or so PS2 owners remains the same with the PS3. And that is true for the GameCube/Revolution and Xbox/360 platforms.
If you stop and break down console consumers into basic categories it becomes even clearer to nail down rough worldwide installed base numbers:
1) PS2 owners - The same exclusive IP that caused this group of 95 million or so people to go out and buy a PS2 will be appearing on the PS3. Add in the huge technological lead the PS3 has due to the machines enormous power advantage and BluRay and it is obvious why this group has shown absolutely no interest in the 360. Although PS2 owners are showing quite a bit of interest in the Revolution, but more as a second console.
2) GameCube owners - Nintendo is always the wildcard in the console market. They always have something appealing but need to be treated with caution. Every single developer I've talked to and every single gamer I've talked to wants to get their hands on a Revolution either to play or makes games for. I would not be surprised to see the Revolution hitting N64 range installed base numbers. Cheap, fun, Nintendo exclusive IP.
3) Xbox owners - No for the bad news. Microsoft started out in a hole with the poorly designed Xbox hardware racking up billions in losses leading to them having to cancel the console early in its life and having to rush a technologically inferior piece of hardware out the door. And from the MTV marketing fiasco all the way through this year they seem to only be digging themselves deeper in that hole. There are too many problems with the 360 to even bother trying to list them. There will be huge number of defections to other consoles or back to pc gaming for Microsoft. They will probably end up with Dreamcast range installed base numbers. The 360 just isn't going to be relevant come March of next year.
If the dominance of the PS3 was in any question there would have already been large and significant exclusive IP defections from publishers to other platforms.
PS3: 120 million
Revolution: 30-40 million
360: 8-12 million
There's a fanboy if I've ever seen one.
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3
This means that many more editors in the near future will port their games to the GNU/Linux system, which is quite a good news for all of you nerds who are keeping a macroshit partition only for gaming!
Potentially, this also means that PS3 owners will be able to use GNU/Linux on one of the most powerful piece of hardware ever created for let's say 500 bucks..
Sounds promising , isn'it?