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Should You Wait For The PS3?

News for nerds writes "Though Xbox 360 is launching tomorrow in the U.S. to usher the next-generation of game consoles, the champion of the current generation has been quiet... until now. From the CNN Money article with words from Sony's CEO, Sir Howard Stringer: 'Sir Howard said the PS3 will sell for $300 to $400 and will come with a bundle of games, movies, and TV shows, many of which Sony also makes. The question is whether the titles will be bundled on Blu-ray DVD discs or on a built-in hard drive.'" Update: 11/22 22:22 GMT by Z : Chris Morris over at CNN emailed to let us know that there have been signifiCant changes to the story since it was originally posted.

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  1. Another way of posing the question... by bradbeattie · · Score: 2, Insightful

    With Sony's recent behaviour, is it really a company you want to support? Is Microsoft?

    1. Re:Another way of posing the question... by SimplePaul · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sony is such a big company - the PS3 guys have absolutely nothing to do with the recent audio-cd issues.

      The Sony Playstation people I have spoken to / met (both online and in real person) all seemed nice and down-to-earth - not evil, moneygrabbing monsters.

      The 2 issues don't need to be mixed, imho.

    2. Re:Another way of posing the question... by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, but do the Xbox guys have anything to do with the executives at Microsoft who try to squeeze out the competition? Chances are, they just want to build a nice box.

      Sony and Microsoft are both about the same. Feel free to buy the system of your choice, but don't fool yourself into thinking one company is signifigantly better then the other. Either way you're money is feeding the beast.

    3. Re:Another way of posing the question... by vertinox · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sony is such a big company - the PS3 guys have absolutely nothing to do with the recent audio-cd issues.

      Of course not. Its the people above them that are the problematic persons.

      The Sony Playstation people I have spoken to / met (both online and in real person) all seemed nice and down-to-earth - not evil, moneygrabbing monsters.

      There are nice people that work for telemarketing and companies that border line in fraud. I don't have anything against them either and I'm not going to chastise them for trying to make a living.

      The 2 issues don't need to be mixed, imho.

      If my money indirectly or directly supports their profit margin then yes it does.

      Secondly, how do you not know that DRM technology from another department will be used on the PS3?

      Sure the nice guy geeks in PS3 won't include DRM, but what if the upper management or VP says they will use it? I remember a few kickass software devs that worked for a particular gaming company who were forced by their publisher to include pervasive anti-copying software on their game which they themselves disagreed with on their own forums.

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    4. Re:Another way of posing the question... by |/|/||| · · Score: 2, Interesting
      You're right on about MS being just as bad. People tend to forget that MS doesn't *need* a rootkit. Windows is its own rootkit, when you're the one writing the OS!

      That said, though, Sony was very wrong for releasing such a nasty piece of software. If I put a CD in my machine and it installs spyware, I'm going to be PISSED.

      As for being a hypocrite, though, it's really unavoidable. The world is too complex to always behave consistently, and nobody has time to keep track of every issue even within their own specialty. Boycotts can be powerful, but they have to be focused in order to make a difference -- and that may mean putting on the blinders to other issues.

      Me? I'm boycotting the 360 (fat difference it'll make, though) but I'm reserving judgement on the PS3 until we get closer to the release. Not because I like Sony, but because I've got more current (and arguably much more important) issues to concern myself with. I'm not "allied" with a company if I buy a said company's product even though I disagree with their business practices. Such an action may be hypocritical, but it's due to my own inability to be perfect rather than some kind of evil pact. I don't have an infinite amout of time to make sure that all of my actions are perfectly consistent. Nobody does -- we all have to pick our battles.

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    5. Re:Another way of posing the question... by falcon9x · · Score: 2
      I have a reply to make to this, but another slashdotter put it in much better terms. The comment can be found here. It is posted below:

      If Sony didn't want to milk its name recognition for every dime it's worth, they wouldn't have "SONY" written on everything they sell. Even if they didn't want to spin off their hardware division, they still could have followed Disney's example of "Touchstone," et al. They want to make money on the Sony name, period. If there's going to be a consumer response, then the response should show the industry just what that "SONY" nameplate is worth.
  2. $300-$400? The current cost per chip ATM is $150! by Coopjust · · Score: 2, Informative

    At the present moment, the current estimated cost per wafer is $9000-$10,000, with about 65 good chips per wafer. So, the current estimated cost per chip is $150 and $175 on the board. Now, don't get me wrong, Sony is pretty wealthy. But how can they afford that? $175 and no drive, GPU or anything. Sony will obviously go into the red in order to be competitively priced. Sony: A) Wants to sell it in the red to be competitively priced. While standalone Blu-Ray players will be an estimated $1,000 , you can get a killer game console AND blu-ray player for less! B) Lock consumers into the system with some good launch games and better specs. C) Once there is enough of a base, Blu-ray will be the obvious choice for movie producers and consumers as a storage format. I'm in doubt of this. Between the rootkit and Betamax, the memory stick, etc., the players/burners will be overpriced and Sony will keep it to themselves. The format will probably be designed with Sony and "movie producer rights" in mind vs. the consumer. I am in doubt that the console alone will be able to make Blu-Ray a success.

  3. Yes, you should wait for the PS3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yes, I'd highly suggest waiting until the PS3 to buy an XBox 360. After the PS3 hits, the XBox 360 will likely come down in price, and a whole host of good games should be out for it at the time.

    As for getting the PS3, I'd highly suggest you pass.

  4. Consumerism by Tachikoma · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am a mindless consumer and will buy both

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    1. Re:Consumerism by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Congratulations citizen. You made the right choice. We are proud of you.

      Here's a coupon for a free big mac, now remember to go out on Friday and BUY BUY BUY!!!

    2. Re:Consumerism by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Blessings of the state, blessings of the masses.

      Somehow I missed the whole point of the movie until I rewatched the remastered DVD version. And then I felt funny about buying remastered DVD.

      Let us be thankful we have an occupation to fill. Work hard, increase production, prevent accidents and be happy.

  5. Not waiting by richcoder · · Score: 2

    PS3 will be harder to develop for and has only a slight power advantage. That plus it will cost more and come out later. Easy choice.

  6. They're both not worth the dough by RotHorseKid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I will wait for the Nintendo Revolution.

    XBOX360 and PS3 bring nothing new to gaming, in my opinion. I AM really tired of things like FIFA 2023 and Splinter Cell XVII.

    But if Nintendo really pull off their controller ideas... I believe this is good for a genuine gaming experience.

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    1. Re:They're both not worth the dough by iainl · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Just as much to the point, I expect Nintendo to launch the console at around the $200 mark, which is far more like a price I'm prepared to pay for a games machine. It's what I waited for the XBox and PS2 to hit before I bought them, and it's what I paid for the Gamecube at launch.

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  7. Neither by Quattro+Vezina · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm waiting for the Revolution.

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  8. More games by StreetChip · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are hundreds if not thousands of more games available for the PS3. You're looking at all of the old PS1 and PS2 games which will run on the PS3. Not to mention the fact that once the PS3 comes out all of these fantastic games will be bargain bin priced. With Xbox 360 'maybe' being able to run some of their very small collection of Xbox 1 games, who cares? The games make the difference and PS3 will continue to slaughter the Xbox for that very reason.

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    1. Re:More games by ad0gg · · Score: 2, Informative

      Got love the sony fan boys. By a small collection of games you mean 200+ games that are certified to run.

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  9. PS3 by doomicon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have an Xbox, when I go to my local BestBuy there are three times as many games for the Playstation. There are some really cool games for Playstation that just aren't available for Xbox. I just purchased a PS2 for my son;-), and will get a P3 when avail.

    If Xbox 360 has some really cool games that I really want to play then sure I'll get a 360, until then PS all the way.

    The whole Sony/Microsoft whose worse just doesn't matter to me, as it probably doesn't matter to the %99.99 that aren't registered to slashdot.

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  10. Re:Killer move... by MorgyTheMole · · Score: 2, Informative

    Barely? In a limited amount of time of development, they were able to ABLY develop an XBox emulator way better than anything else you'll find right now, that emulated both the CPU and GPU rather precisely. A few of the games on the list have a few problems, but many are minor and are expected to be fixed in the next update.

    It also upgrades the graphics resolution quite a bit with antialiasing and 720p. Pretty nice.

    Nintendo will definitely make good on their first party titles being emulated as well as possible (same as Microsoft), and their simpler machines are the only ones being emulated from what I understand (SNES, N64, etc.) If they emulate the Gamecube rather than supporting the hardware... then my hat's off to them just as much as Microsoft.

  11. All About the Games by Winterblink · · Score: 2, Interesting

    To be honest, I don't give a rats ass about tech specs anymore. It's all about the games.

    With the last generation, I picked up a PS2 and a Gamecube (not at the same time mind you). I had friends with XBoxen, and they had some decent games, but nothing that was exclusive that would make me go and spend more money on hardware to play. And the PS2 and GC had titles that I had wanted to play more.

    This generation, I'm waiting. I might pick up the YBox, I might not. Ditto for the PS3, or the Revo. All three sound good, sound like they've got some pretty impressive specs and design philosphies all around. But I'm going to wait until the PS3 comes out to see how the games play on it, and see which of the first two I'm going to go for. Not to discount the Revo of course.

    But I'll base my decisions on how developers use the new hardware to do something interesting, because I don't care to play yet another console FPS or RPG unless it's different, and not just in the better graphics department.

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  12. Re:$300-$400? The current cost per chip ATM is $15 by Ender+Ryan · · Score: 2, Informative
    Did you pull all these numbers out of your ass? There's already a lot of BD devices on the market in Japan - not the final BD specs that will be the basis of standalone BD players and the PS3, but basically the same hardware. I'm pretty sure they're not running $1,000 per unit.

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  13. Re:Why not get both? by porcupine8 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    And we adults don't have to beg mommy for an advance on our allowance to get a console any more.

    Unfortunately, we now have rent/morgages and utilities to pay, food to buy, student loans to pay off, medical bills... I'm asking my mommy for a gamecube for Christmas.

    No, actually, I'm not willing - or able, honestly - to pay $400 for a freaking game console, plus $50 per game. My SNES has served me well all these years, but I've just about played it out and it's time to upgrade. Even as a gift, though, I can't imagine asking for a console that costs over $100. And that way I can get more games with it.

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  14. Re:How about Revolution? by damsa · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why not wait for the Phantom? Oh wait....