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Novell Doubts Microsoft Latest "Linux Facts"

Robert writes "Microsoft Corp's "Get the Facts" campaign comparing Windows with Linux continues to prove controversial, with Novell Inc describing the latest set of facts offered up by Microsoft as "misdirection." The latest report offered up by Microsoft as evidence that Windows is a better bet than Linux is a white paper from Security Innovation Inc that compares maintenance, patch application, and system failures related to a migration from Windows Server 2000 to 2003, and Novell's SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 8 to SLES 9. The report found that there were more system failures experienced by Linux systems administrators, and that more patches needed to be applied to the Linux systems, while more time was required to complete the Linux migration."

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  1. More migration news by DrSkwid · · Score: 4, Funny

    Windows : migrate or die
    *nix : oh, I've not touched that server for 3 years, bulletproof, see : 1 year uptime

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    1. Re:More migration news by generalphilips · · Score: 2, Funny
      If this were so, then he should direct complaints about the _amount_ of software he has to support, to his users...
      Problem solving at its finest.
  2. .exe files by jlebrech · · Score: 5, Funny

    microsoft has better .exe files that linux.

    1. Re:.exe files by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Funny

      .exe files... what're those?

      I get lots of .scr files in my e-mail and they're pretty cool though.

      Will they run on Linux?

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  3. And don't forget... by msauve · · Score: 4, Funny

    MSCEs dress better than *nix sysadmins, too!

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  4. Dance with the devil and he'll steal your gold. by DeathoRatz · · Score: 1, Funny

    Welcome to Microsoft Technologies. Please place your offering on the sacrificial altar before contacting product support, please note that nothing less that yo bleeding heart or soul will suffice.

  5. Re:OMFG by munehiro · · Score: 2, Funny


    > Please give me something else to beleive in !

    SCO licensing

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  6. Not alone Novell by Muppski · · Score: 2, Funny

    I doubt it too

  7. 'Get the Facts' campaign confused with voicemail by digitaldc · · Score: 2, Funny

    Microsoft Corp's "Get the Facts" campaign appears to have been confused with a voicemail to instruct certain employees that a fax has arrived on their fax machines. It is not clear how this happened, but Microsoft will be releasing a correction on the second Tuesday of the month.

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  8. the real news by psbrogna · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am very impressed by MS' strategy here. As an IT professional, I've never been crazy about working under the same roof as sales & marketing people. I think this move shows that MS corporate is being sensitive to their developers by relocating the Mar/Comm function to the offices of Security Innovation, Inc. If they want to be coy and call it 3rd party research, well- that's just semantics.

  9. Statistics are fun. by SlashAmpersand · · Score: 5, Funny

    In a non-blinded, non-randomized, anecdotal study, one user (who is a certified Microsoft Shill) found that installing Windows XP Home Edition on a non-networked computer was easier than installing Fedora Core 4 and setting it up as a server using Samba and configuring it to act as a firewall. "We found that in 100% of the cases, Microsoft products came out ahead. Looking at our experience here, why would somebody want to use anything else?" Wow. I think I'm going to go wipe my server and jump right on the Microsoft bandwagon!

    1. Re:Statistics are fun. by psbrogna · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actual details of the study indicate that buying a retail PC with Windows on it is easier than buying a PC, uninstalling Windows & installing Linux. While not conclusively established, it was also noted that non-networked Windows PC represent an approximate equivalent security risk to a networked Linux box.

  10. Re:From the article by hotdiggitydawg · · Score: 2, Funny

    I could find 3 "expert" linux administrators who'd say just about anything I wanted them to say. ...and you've come to the right place.

  11. Re:OMFG by iBod · · Score: 3, Funny

    I have suddenly lost interest in the opposite sex... Please give me something else to beleive in !

    If you've lost interest in the opposite sex, I suggest the Apple Mac ;)

  12. *INX Has One Advantage Over Windows.... by 8127972 · · Score: 3, Funny

    .... Sony Rootkits Won't Run.

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    1. Re:*INX Has One Advantage Over Windows.... by dwandy · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's the problem with linux ... none of the popular software will run on it...

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    2. Re:*INX Has One Advantage Over Windows.... by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 2, Funny

      ... Sony Rootkits Won't Run.

      Has anyone tried to install the rootkit under Wine?

  13. As an Lead Programmer at a Fortune 1000 Company... by eno2001 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...I have to say that I am glad to see that the truth eventually prevails. I've been hearing my employees whining "linux this" and "linux that" for the past six year. But they never have anything to back themselves up when they are faced with a challenge. Just because Linux is the buzzword of the decade doesn't make it a viable business technology. Anytime the dirty L word ever comes up in meetings I smash it down the the heel of my boot by instantly asking the person who uttered it the following question: "You don't like your job here. Do you"? That usually silences them. But I always follow up with, "If Linux is so good. Then show me where the *working* alternatives to important development applications like PowerPoint, Photoshop and Macromedia Flash are". The response is usually a visibly annoyed grumble. And do you want to know why? BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY VIABLE ALTERNATIVES.

    We produce an award winning database with a truly intuitive user interface that goes lightyears beyond anything that Linux's GUI has to offer. And I'm the one who draws up the mockups and gets things ready for the code monkeys to sling their stupid poo at. My typical devel/design cycle:

    1. Watch The Matrix, Hackers, Virtuosity, The Minority Report and a few hours of the SciFi channel to spot new but unimplemented UI features
    2. Fire up Photoshop and create mockups for each UI screen
    3. Pull the mockup into PowerPoint and add the sound effects and MPEG1 videos (That's what wins awards in the DB world folks. Good special FX. Just felt the need to school you.)
    4. Do a little more work in Flash to indicate what the pointer should look like in various parts of the UI at various times.
    5. Turn it all over to the code jockeys so they can make the pointless stuff happen.

    If my coders were using Linux they wouldn't be able to dissect my work and convert it to their pointless language. (We're a Visual Studio .Net shop now because that's all the rage with code cooks) They *might* be able to watch my PowerPoint stuff in OpenOffice.org but probably not considering that they don't have enough RAM to hold that bulky app and my presentations (which top out at about 600 megs typically. Per UI screen.). They *could* view my Flash presentation in their web browsers with the Flash player for Linux but they wouldn't be able to see the intricate timings that I coded into the presentation. And Photoshop? Don't make me laugh with your Gimp thing. I can't work with an application that refuses to use normal menus and plain English for filters. Not to mention there aren't enough filters for the kind of work I do. Where is Bryce for Linux? How am I supposed to make award winning UIs when I can't render a complex texture with a few button clicks? How am I supposed to make grand looking buttons when I don't have any kind of lighting control that is realistically flexible?

    So your beloved Linux has nothing to offer this Fortune 1000 developer. It seems to be moored in the backwater ages when everything was CLI (which is dying out in case you didn't notce) and the world was encumbered by the albatross of elitist intellectuals who called themselves "programmers". What's so special about being able to type cryptic Unix and C commands and just to get 1+1=2? It's 2005 people! I shouldn't even NEED a keyboard anymore! I get so annoyed when an application makes me reach for the keyboard that I curse anyone who thinks it's a decent textual input device. Give me a 3d gyro mouse and a Dasher-like interface any day. But better yet, give me complete and total voice recognition. As a developer all I should have to do is tell my computer to build me an award winning DB app in Excel and then rake in the cash. Then I can finally cut the losses that I employ called "programmers".

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  14. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    The main security problem with Linux is uptime. With Windows you know that it is going to crash soon. Linux may be more difficult to break into, but once your in, you could have a system for years. With Windows their likely to reinstall after only a month or two thereby eliminating the intrusion. You Linux guys will never get the inherent built-in security features of the superior Windows Xxx OS.

  15. Re:Knock Knock by Entropius · · Score: 3, Funny

    MOD PARENT SIDEWAYS