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GIMP's 10th Anniversary Splash Contest

Lalakis writes "Barely in time for GIMP's tenth birthday is the 10th Anniversary GIMP Splash Contest. This new contest requires a tutorial with the submissions, so get out your favorite text editor and show us all of the beautiful things you can make your GIMP do. Submit those entries and wait to see if there is a gimp-2.2.10 with your entry as the very special release splash. Here are all the current submissions. The contest will be open until Sunday the 27th of November, at which point the winner will be announced and committed to CVS. Happy Birthday GIMP!"

171 comments

  1. Splash the gimp by 0110011001110101 · · Score: 2, Funny
    But the gimps sleeping...

    Well wake em up!

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    1. Re:Splash the gimp by Joey+Patterson · · Score: 0

      "'Ello, Mr. Gimpy Gimp, I've got a nice fresh cuttlefish for you--"
      "There, 'e moved!"
      "No, 'e didn't, that was you 'ittin' the cage!"

      "'ELLOOOOOOOOO, GIMPYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!"

      I think 'e's stone dead.

    2. Re:Splash the gimp by Craptastic+Weasel · · Score: 1

      Apparently the gimp isn't all that is asleep... The contest has been closed.

      "Submissions The contest is now closed. You can view the current submissions in the gallery or in the public voting system. Results The jury has now made it's choice and we have a winner: "work in progress..." by Bill Luhtala has been choosen as the splash image for Gimp 2.2."

      Somebody better wake up Commander Taco and let him know.

      Homer: Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals ... except the weasel.

    3. Re:Splash the gimp by Craptastic+Weasel · · Score: 1

      Oh wait, thats for 2.2... now i feel like a gimp...

      homer: Doh!

    4. Re:Splash the gimp by Dasch · · Score: 1

      Mod parent up for the obligatory Pulp Fiction quote.

  2. Happy Birthday GIMP by Bumjubeo · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Happy Birthday GIMP! Huzzah!

  3. This can't be right by J.+T.+MacLeod · · Score: 2, Funny

    If the GIMP is ten years old, that says a lot about my own age.

    I refuse to accept this arbitrary number!

    1. Re:This can't be right by Brandybuck · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm starting to feel decrepit myself as well...

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  4. Birthday Song! by AntiDragon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Happy Birthday to you,
    Happy Birthday to you!
    You like tight black leathers...
    And belong in a zoo! .... ... ...OK..I'm really sorry..don't know what came over me..I'll climb back in my box now...

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    1. Re:Birthday Song! by daeley · · Score: 1

      I'll climb back in my box now...

      Appropriately enough, given a story about The Gimp. ;D

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  5. Fancy text editor by 0110011001110101 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    FTFA - so get out your favorite text editor and show us all of the beautiful things you can make your GIMP do.

    I looked at those current submissions, and if I could get my text editor to do that, I wouldn't need any fancy competition to validate my skillz!

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    1. Re:Fancy text editor by Lalakis · · Score: 2, Informative
      Are you a journalist? Read the whole sentence:

      This new contest requires a tutorial with the submissions, so get out your favorite text editor and show us all of the beautiful things you can make your GIMP do.

    2. Re:Fancy text editor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "and show us all of the beautiful things you can make your GIMP do."

      Trust me, he does anything I goddamned tell him to do.

    3. Re:Fancy text editor by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Of course you can use your text editor to do great images. Just type it in postscript.
      Ok, to actually see the images you'll need either a postscript viewer or a really great imagination (but then, to type postscript images directly in the editor, you probably need the latter anyway :-)).

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    4. Re:Fancy text editor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you're forgetting about photoshop.el; an implementation of photoshop written entirely in Emacs Lisp.

    5. Re:Fancy text editor by Threni · · Score: 1

      > Are you a journalist? Read the whole sentence:

      He probably read it and was still confused, given that the `journalist` used the word `show` when he meant to use `describe`.

    6. Re:Fancy text editor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      show

      Please remember to learn the English language before being an asshole. Especially when the usage you are taking issue with is so fucking common in addition to being correct.

  6. crawlingly slow already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative
  7. Is it ok by commodoresloat · · Score: 4, Funny

    to submit an entry I created with Photoshop?

    1. Re:Is it ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      This is probably why they require a tutorial.

    2. Re:Is it ok by Neurotoxic666 · · Score: 1

      Frankly, for the last splash screen contest, I've submitted quite a few images made in Corel Photopaint on a Windows box (obviously). Most of them got good scores and some ended up high in the ranking. :)

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  8. Age shows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    GIMP's age shows. It has been improved and polished what it has but it has also in features fallen behind with the modern features the commercial professional photo editing and imagery applications have. I wouldn't myself even bother noticing GIMP's anniversaries nowadays, sadly.

    No dynamic effect layers, the drawing tools are from CCCP, the color management still has got a lot to do, pdf importing isn't very good afaik, ... Bah. GIMP can imho just plain rot in hell and stay in the earlier 80s as a tool as the developers seem to be prioritizing.

    1. Re:Age shows by diegocgteleline.es · · Score: 3, Funny

      No dynamic effect layers, the drawing tools are from CCCP, the color management still has got a lot to do, pdf importing isn't very good afaik

      But they're adding a new splash screen!

    2. Re:Age shows by Chr0nik · · Score: 1

      Even if it can't fully compete with the commercial ones, the underlying fact that it's free, and you can still with a little added effort do most things with GIMP that you can do with other editing packages, kind of takes it out of the "rot in hell" category, for me anyway.

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    3. Re:Age shows by kellar · · Score: 1
      GIMP can imho just plain rot in hell and stay in the earlier 80s as a tool as the developers seem to be prioritizing.

      dude, it's free. don't like the development status? lend a hand.

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    4. Re:Age shows by qzulla · · Score: 1

      Note to self: AC works for Adobe.

      Laugh! It's a joke!

      Maybe.

      qz

    5. Re:Age shows by staticsage · · Score: 3, Funny

      "the drawing tools are from CCCP"

      The drawing tools are from the USSR?

    6. Re:Age shows by WWWWolf · · Score: 1

      Fallen behind??? GIMP never got past the competition.

      Anyway, considering there's no corporation to whip the development along, GIMP folks have succeeded bolting in a lot of what I would consider basic necessities of drawing. Everything else is just extra that would be cool to have but not really necessary.

      Sure, additional drawing tools and such would be nice, but at this price, I'm not complaining.

    7. Re:Age shows by acteng · · Score: 1

      I've got a great new splash screen that I made using the GIMP. Now if I can just remember how to crop it... select, crop, no that didn't work... transform tools, select... no... dammit!

    8. Re:Age shows by kimvette · · Score: 1

      Not only are they adding a new splash screen, but they're giving away a free copy of the software to anyone who submits an entry! How can you beat that?

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    9. Re:Age shows by drsquare · · Score: 0

      Even if it can't fully compete with the commercial ones, the underlying fact that it's free,

      Dog shit is free.

    10. Re:Age shows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      drawing tools are from CCCP

      Dah, een Mother Russia, GIMP is tooling you!

    11. Re:Age shows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dog shit is free.

      yeah, but the color pallet is even worse than the gimp

    12. Re:Age shows by smoke_tetsu · · Score: 1

      The GIMP's age shows compared to what... Photoshop? Photoshop is 15 years old and is highly funded and costs a lot. I really don't think age has anything to do with it.

    13. Re:Age shows by Neurotoxic666 · · Score: 1

      The drawing tools are from the USSR?

      Yeah. And it's all free as in vodka.

      Oh ok. Sorry about that...

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    14. Re:Age shows by Chr0nik · · Score: 1

      Priceless, +5 for funny. Sorry I don't have any points.

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      ... what did you expect, something profound?
    15. Re:Age shows by ozmanjusri · · Score: 2, Funny

      The drawing tools are from the USSR?

      In Soviet Russia, the drawing tool is you!

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      "I've got more toys than Teruhisa Kitahara."
    16. Re:Age shows by ozmanjusri · · Score: 1

      Now if I can just remember how to crop it... select, crop, no that didn't work.

      Yeah, that one's a bit of a trap if you're coming from Photoshop. Actually, the crop tool works fine, but by default it's set to crop a single layer, not the whole image. Unselect the "Current Layer Only" checkbox and it'll work like Photoshop from then on.

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    17. Re:Age shows by rapidweather · · Score: 1

      I still use it, here is a web page with a picture of a building, that I had to "alter" with GIMP.
      http://www.geocities.com/rapidweather/rac.html
      It seems that the owner of the building had some ugly orange chairs on the right side of the building. I took them out with GIMP, and put some nice trees and shrubs there. Also, the next door neighbors house was removed, so the building looks like it is in a suitable setting, not so crowded. The original image was too large for a web page, so GIMP helped me with that. All of the text images on the web page were done with GIMP, also. I find GIMP easy to use, and have it in my Knoppix remaster, see the screenshots below:

  9. Redirect your efforts. by Stumbles · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You know instead of worrying about some silly splash screen. How about making it support 16 bit tiffs and saving at that. AFAIK 2.2.9 don't.

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    1. Re:Redirect your efforts. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      last time I had to support a 16 year old 'Tiff'any it was because I forget to put on a brand new jimmy and didn't card at the door.

      I only use Foil hats now. I don't blame GIMP for shying away from the issue.

    2. Re:Redirect your efforts. by Stumbles · · Score: 0, Troll

      What a bunch of retards. Modding to a troll because version 2.2.9 doesn't support 16 bit tiff's. Losers.

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    3. Re:Redirect your efforts. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, they modded you troll because you *trolled*. (Hint: insulting people is not acceptable internet ettiquite. Asshat.)

      And if you think GIMP needs a particular feature, get off your duff and fix it!

    4. Re:Redirect your efforts. by towsonu2003 · · Score: 1

      why is this a troll now??

    5. Re:Redirect your efforts. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      And if you think GIMP needs a particular feature, get off your duff and fix it!

      Newsflash! The days of 10-minute feature hacks to pissant little GNU utilities are long gone. Learning the codebase for any non-trivial application (of which the GIMP certainly qualifies) is not a 'get off your duff' job. It took me months to gain enough familiarity to the GIMP's structure before I was even in a position to make any significant changes - and for most of that time I was hacking at it full time. Ask anyone else who's been involved with anything more sophisticated than 'ls' and they'll agree with me.

      It's tired, outdated retorts like that that keep OSS playing second fiddle. Kindly stop making them, dumbass.

    6. Re:Redirect your efforts. by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      Why prioritize support for 16 bit tiffs? Most of the viewers don't yet. Really bugged me when a newer imagemagick made a 16 bit tiff without me asking it to, and it wouldn't work with any of my other applications, and I had to waste hours to figure out why IM was spitting out a tiff that didn't work with anything.

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    7. Re:Redirect your efforts. by Stumbles · · Score: 1

      Oh? Because I called a splash screen silly. What bunch of immature pimply ass twits, including you asshat.

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    8. Re:Redirect your efforts. by dylan_- · · Score: 1
      Oh? Because I called a splash screen silly.
      No, actually, I modded you troll and am now posting to remove that moderation.

      The reason I modded you as "troll" in the first place was because I was sure that no-one could really be so stupid as to think that just because a person could produce a graphic for a splash screen, they must also be able to program and write in 16 bit support, and it was just a matter of priorities. Surely anyone with a brain would be able to realise that they would be completely different involved in the two activities, I reasoned. Therefore I figured your post must be a troll rather than a serious complaint.

      However, given your followup postings, I now realise I was mistaken and you actually are that stupid. Sorry about the misunderstanding. Troll moderation duly removed.
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    9. Re:Redirect your efforts. by dominator · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The developers don't need to do a lick of work for this splash screen contest. It's fun, something a non-hacker can do, and good advertising for the Gimp. It's not like the devs are all drawing splash screens instead of making 16-bit support work (not that you have a right to demand that they do *anything*, let alone a specific feature on a specific timeline). It's not the "either-or" situation you make it out to be...

    10. Re:Redirect your efforts. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Learning the codebase for any non-trivial application (of which the GIMP certainly qualifies) is not a 'get off your duff' job.

      Really? Does Samba 3 count as "non-trivial", 'cos I had that debugged, patched and tested in two days and I'm today I started working on re-writing part of the configuration backend.

      Perhaps you just need more practice at this sort of thing?

    11. Re:Redirect your efforts. by Stumbles · · Score: 1

      Ah yes. To troll thinking for a birthday present lets see who can make the prettiest splash screen. I know for the next one, lets see who can make the most realistic image of crate paper. That's worth the hype. Well duh. I never said there was any similarity between a splash screen and coding. It's just you were to quick on the trigger or only have half a brain.

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    12. Re:Redirect your efforts. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Them's some first-class reasoning skills you got there.

      And they say the slashdot moderation system is broken.

      roll. fucking. eyes.

    13. Re:Redirect your efforts. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      igloo@router ~/samba-3.0.14a $ wc -l `find ./ *.c `
      [...]
          395916 total

      So you managed to debug, patch and test nearly 400,000 lines of source code in 2 days.

      Do me a favour - tell me what project this was for, so I know to stay the fuck away from it at all costs.

    14. Re:Redirect your efforts. by 0xygen · · Score: 1

      So wtf is "crate paper"?

      Maybe you should be slower on the trigger yourself?

    15. Re:Redirect your efforts. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because I called a splash screen silly

      Perhaps you should work on your reading comprehension skills. I said *BECAUSE YOU TROLLED*.

      Hint: instead of looking at what you said, look at HOW you said it.

      Fucktard.

    16. Re:Redirect your efforts. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But ... but ... but ...

      It's open source! Fuck doing real work, dude, FIGHT THE FUCKING MAN!!! LOL! omfgbbq!!

      Oh. Yeah. Pick a new fucking name, lamers. GIMP ain't going nowhere in corporate/design circles. How about: "Open Image Design Program", "Open Source Image Editor", "Advanced Image Manipulation", etc. - GIMP just ain't gonna do it, hippies.

  10. Re:10 years of Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    umm myeah, gimp is so much a clone of photoshop... that is why when you install it the graphic artists cant tell the difference.

    If Gimp is a ripoff of photoshop then EVERY OS is a ripoff of BSD Unix.

    Apple, MSFT, SUN... all you copycat ripoffs!

  11. Thank you for windows port by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The free Gimp port to windows saved me money I would have had to use on a commercial Photoshop. Its nice to have another piece of free software that belongs on every person's computer.

    1. Re:Thank you for windows port by benbob · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have saved money and also stayed on the right side of the law thanks to the GIMP.
      In the "war on piracy", there is no better weapon than Open Source :-) Why steal it (Piracy IS theft remember!) when:
      a. you can get it for free.
      b. it does almost exactly what you want and,
      c. you can even have a say in what it does next! if you're that way inclined ;-)

    2. Re:Thank you for windows port by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We run an online shop at work (the online shop is Free Software too), and we've used the GIMP for Windows for design elements and we continue to use it for resizing and merging scanned objects.
      Without Free Software like this a lot of small businesses would be struggling to break even, it's really saved US a lot of time and money at least. :-)

  12. Not funny by mcgroarty · · Score: 1

    If anyone submits the Photoshop 1.0 splash screen, he gets a spanking. It was slow going for a while, but The GIMP's come far in the last couple years. Excellent work, duders.

    1. Re:Not funny by temojen · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Come far? only if you want to limit yourself to cartoon drawing (better done vector anyways). Still no 16 bit support. Still no colour management. Both are must haves for photograph editing.

    2. Re:Not funny by FooBarWidget · · Score: 1

      I have never needed CMYK or 16-bit support for my home photos. Most people are not pro photographers or even hobbyist phographers. The professionals will never touch Gimp even if it does support 16-bit and CMYK.

    3. Re:Not funny by temojen · · Score: 1

      CMYK is not colour management.

    4. Re:Not funny by temojen · · Score: 1

      If you want to correct lighting in your home photos (even more nescesary than for pro photographers due to slow lenses, bad metering and on-camera flash with low-end digital point & shoots) you'd best do it in 16 bit mode (camera set to raw). Try cinepaint.

    5. Re:Not funny by jimicus · · Score: 1

      If you want to correct lighting in your home photos (even more nescesary than for pro photographers due to slow lenses, bad metering and on-camera flash with low-end digital point & shoots) you'd best do it in 16 bit mode (camera set to raw)

      ICBW, but I'm not aware of many low-end digital point & shoot camera which support some form of raw output.

    6. Re:Not funny by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Depends on what you mean by low-end. My Canon Powershot S60 can, and it's far from being a pro SLR camera (but none the less, very nice IMO). I imagine many of the 5MP+ point-and-shoot cameras can at least. However, I've done both 8 bit and 16 bit (converted raw to TIFF/16bit, native 12? bits) to printer (not CMYK), and let me put it this way: It helps, but it is not the biggest factor in the quality of my pictures. Doing some manual hue/white balance/contrast/saturation/levels correction has a much greater effect than 8 vs 16bit.

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  13. NO by radicalskeptic · · Score: 2, Informative

    In OS X, when you open the GIMP under X11, the spash screen is the most annoying part of the whole program. It's always on top, and it takes at least a minute to load all the fonts, extensions, scripts etc. Please, if you're going to have a splash screen, at least make sure other windows aren't stuck behind it! Maybe it is different in Windows or Linux, but it's a real peeve of mine on OS X.

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    1. Re:NO by szo · · Score: 2, Informative

      the linux version has --no-splash, I would guess the OSX has too.

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    2. Re:NO by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

      It's as if you want the GIMP developers to take into account some basic usability considerations.. but that can't be right, because from your post it seems you have previously used the GIMP, and so would know that the developers are strongly opposed to sensibility.

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    3. Re:NO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I just measured 16 seconds on my PB 1.33Ghz and 1/3 of that was X starting up. 10 seconds if caches are pre-loaded, and 8 if pre-loaded and X is running. I'm running Gimp 2.0 with a prebuilt Gimp.app. Is something wrong with your setup?

    4. Re:NO by BigSven · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Now why is that the fault of GIMP? GIMP does set the appropriate window hint that is telling the window manager that this is a splash screen. It appears that Apple is to be blamed here for delivering a lousy X server.

      On a related note, GIMP startup takes about 3 to 5 seconds here. See also http://svenfoo.geekheim.de/index.php/2005-11-05/gi mp-startup-time/

    5. Re:NO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is photoshop on OS X different than on windows? Because on Windows -"It's always on top, and it takes at least a minute to load all the fonts, extensions, scripts etc. " is exactly how the splash screen for Photoshop acts. Is there some other graphics program that does everything Gimp and Photoshop does but yet loads instantly or something? In short what's the freaking problem?

      Make GIMP useable use Gimpshop. http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=288

    6. Re:NO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Launch it like this: gimp --no-data --no-splash

      And next time, read the manual page. Idiot.

    7. Re:NO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Now why is that the fault of GIMP?

      Uh, wha? Who's fault do you think it is that the GIMP has a splash screen?

      Splash screens are annoying. They were useful back when programs took a couple minutes to load (and froze frequently), so we knew our systems hadn't died. If it truly takes only 3-5 seconds to start, it serves no purpose, other than to annoy the poor user. (Then again, it takes a lot longer for me: around 15 seconds to completely load GIMP 2.2.9.)

      To people who don't think it's bad that a particular app has a splash screen, turn it around: do you have any apps that you think "gee, it's OK, but it really needs a splash screen"? Is there any program that would be better by annoying me with more self-advertising? (Would you put up with it if xterm had a splash screen?)

      GIMP does set the appropriate window hint that is telling the window manager that this is a splash screen. It appears that Apple is to be blamed here for delivering a lousy X server.

      Should a good X server simply ignore windows marked as splash screens? I tend to think it's the app's responsibility to not ask the X server to put that crap on my screen in the first place.

  14. Tigert + Gimp == awesome by Gopal.V · · Score: 4, Interesting
    tigert.gimp.org was the place to look for the coolest tricks with gimp. I used to just love the splash screen history there. And the Bugs Must Die was my bugzilla image replacing the traditional Ant for a long time.

    All in all, without tigert's demos - I'd have relegated gimp to being a glorified paint application instead of the cool tool for web-desginer it has recently become (and I'm not a professional web-dev, but I still like to muck around with gimp). Jimmac is good, but Tigert was and is the gimp wizard I shall worship for ever.

  15. yeah...... by flamesrock · · Score: 0

    I'm thinking of submitting an alpha layer this year.

  16. ASCII art? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So they want me to use a text-editor to help with my submission? Isn't that called ASCII art? : p

  17. It's a modern medical miracle! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had no idea a gimp could live that long! Next thing ya know, we'll be celebrating the 20th aniversary of FCKeditor, joomla, ubuntu, and sodipodi.

  18. But beware that you might face friendly feedback by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gimp developers are known not to accept new ideas.

    They did not like the idea of Gimpshop, for example. Quite many end users like it very much, though.

    If Gimp was more open project, they might have implemented the default Gimp and a single window, easy to use Gimp 'use modes'.

  19. Time flies by gnarlin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    10 years and still no CMYK support, which incidentally is the key feature which is holding the GIMP back from becoming a serious contender with photoshop. One would think that someone or some group would see the value of such a feature in a free software graphics program and have it implemented. If for nothing else then to save money and have a better bargaining position when dealing with vendors of propriatery notoriety.

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    1. Re:Time flies by FooBarWidget · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why are everybody so obsessed with CMYK? Face it: most people are not professional graphics designers and don't need CMYK. If I want to touch up some photos for my homepage, I couldn't care less what CMYK is. If Joe Average wants to create a few drop shadows for his photo gallery, he doesn't need CMYK.

      Besides, professionals wouldn't use Gimp even if it supports CMYK. They'd still use Photoshop because that's what they were thaught at school. Implementing CMYK wouldn't solve anything at all - the peopel who complain would just move on to new things to complain about.

    2. Re:Time flies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you don't know why CMYK or ICC color profiles are important, why are you even using Photoshop? Microsoft Paint would do nicely.

    3. Re:Time flies by Trogre · · Score: 1

      But if you are touching up photos you would benefit from more than 8 bits per channel.

      As an amateur photographer, this in my opinion outweighs CMYK as the biggest drawback of the GIMP.

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    4. Re:Time flies by fossa · · Score: 1

      Cinepaint (formerly Film Gimp) supports higher bit depths... I was under the impression that this would eventually make it's way back to Gimp proper, but I don't know the status of that.

    5. Re:Time flies by spitzak · · Score: 1

      16-bit integers are probably a waste of time. Any effort in this area should be into supporting 16-bit floating point (use the ILM EXR "half" format for the data, it has 1 sign bit, 5 exponent, and 10 (plus hidden 1. bit) of mantissa).

    6. Re:Time flies by FooBarWidget · · Score: 1

      "why are you even using Photoshop?"

      I don't. That's the point.

    7. Re:Time flies by FooBarWidget · · Score: 1

      Last time I checked 16-bit channels != CMYK ?

    8. Re:Time flies by alasdair · · Score: 1

      Why are everybody so obsessed with CMYK?

      Your examples are good ones, but there are "Joe Average" uses of CMYK. For example, I often prepare publicity material for local drama societies, but I can't do the final convert-to-CMYK-and-optimise with GIMP before I send the file off to the printer for programmes, fliers and posters, so I have to stick to a fairly limited palette. Any printing requires CMYK, and lots of people want to print. Still love GIMP though, and the user interface seems much friendlier since I tried to use Blender...

    9. Re:Time flies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, the code bases have diverged too much (Cinepaint is based on a very old version of Gimp, and hasn't kept up with the improvements), so it would have to be rewritten anyway.

      16 bit support *will* happen, but noone is going to promise a date.

  20. Re:Let me save you some time... by m50d · · Score: 1

    In Korea, only old people use the gimp.

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  21. wine by towsonu2003 · · Score: 1

    I would be using wine if we did not have gimp.. stop whining and help them get the features you want. + we already /.ed their site...

  22. GIMP is no wimp by Sundroid · · Score: 0

    Happy birthday to GIMP, the "King Pimp" of graphics software. Without this powerful, free, open-source image editor, I couldn't have created the graphics for my blog: http://sunandfun.blogspot.com/2005/04/in-praise-of -gimp.html

    1. Re:GIMP is no wimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not trying to troll, flame or be a dick here, but the GIMP generated images you have on display in your blog are exactly the kind of primitive, could-have-been-done-on-MS-Paint stuff that makes The GIMP look like a joke.

    2. Re:GIMP is no wimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you won't be a dick, then I will ;)

      Is this guy kidding? Those images look like they were made on a Packard Bell running Windows for workgroups.

  23. No splash screen by crow · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The best splash screen would be not having one at all. Fortunately, there's a command-line option to turn it off, but I would rather not have to set an alias for every application.

    At least it doesn't steal the keyboard focus like OpenOffice does.

  24. I would submit for the contest... by Apostata · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...but the number of steps involved to create a simple drop-shadow would depress anyone who read the tutorial.

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    1. Re:I would submit for the contest... by BigSven · · Score: 2, Informative

      One step is too depressing? Yes, there's a script that does it all in one step and it has been part of the GIMP distribution for like 8 years.

    2. Re:I would submit for the contest... by WWWWolf · · Score: 1
      ...but the number of steps involved to create a simple drop-shadow would depress anyone who read the tutorial.

      Script-fu > Shadow > Drop shadow..., change settings, hit OK.

      Have fun with the contest!

    3. Re:I would submit for the contest... by Apostata · · Score: 1

      Yes, a script with no preview feature. One step indeed.

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      This wasn't just plain terrible, this was fancy terrible. This was terrible with raisins in it. - Dorothy Parker
    4. Re:I would submit for the contest... by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      But you effectively do have a preview, in the form of undo.. If you don`t like the result, hit undo and try something else.. Not quite so convenient as a preview in the dialog itself, but still the same result...
      On the other hand, it would be usefull to be able to preview any operation before committing it without leaving the dialog, and seeing an instant (or as fast as your machine can handle it) preview as soon as you modify a setting in the dialog, such as moving a slider.

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  25. I use GIMP. by TheZorch · · Score: 1

    I use GIMP for editing images for my website. I especially like v2.0 since they implimented GTK++. The interface has gotten better, though the file browser on the Win32 version needs an update from the Linux-style one they have now.

    Yes, it need improvment. Yes, its harder to use than say Photoshop, but if you can't plunk down $100 or $200 for a professional commercial software program then GIMP is just good enough to do the job.

    For web design its perfect.

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    1. Re:I use GIMP. by brewer13210 · · Score: 0

      $100 or $200!? I want to shop where you do. A retail version of Photoshop is going for $550.00 right now.

      Todd

    2. Re:I use GIMP. by Malc · · Score: 1

      "The interface has gotten better, though the file browser on the Win32 version needs an update from the Linux-style one they have now."

      I disagree. I think the Win32 version should use the standard Win32 dialogs.

    3. Re:I use GIMP. by robertjw · · Score: 1

      Thing is, for me it's not so much the money as it is the platform. AFAIK I can't buy a Linux version of Photoshop - so Gimp is the only good graphics program available for my development platform of choice. I would probably drop Gimp altogether and layout $500-$600 for Photoshop if they had a Linux version.

  26. Needed features by Orrin+Bloquy · · Score: 4, Informative

    1. CMYK support. RGB is for screen, CMYK is for print, and Aldus/Adobe never had trouble with this concept.
    2. Contiguous fill. When pestered about this the answer from GIMP developers was that the paintbucket code was "too optimized" (i.e. obfuscated, undocumented) to modify. If I select a region and pour paint inside it, the paint shouldn't leave the margins of the selection.
    3. Less crappy documentation on creating plugins.
    4. For shits&giggles, an LSS import/export filter for those of us who like to make our own ISOLINUX splash screens (the converter's in Perl, how tough could it be)?

    I know webcomic artists whose refusal to use the GIMP is completely based on #2. In Photoshop, it's a checkable option. In Fireworks, it isn't.

    5. At least one major feature that is missing from Photoshop (like, say, selective region compression in JPEG, which has been part of the spec from the beginning and would allow you to set a different lossy for a region containing text).

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    1. Re:Needed features by slavemowgli · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's a GIMP fork called CinePaint (formerly known as Film Gimp, as it focused on features needed by the movie/special effects industry) that has CMYK support, IIRC. The features it adds were originally supposed to get merged into GIMP 2.0, but the GIMP developers later told the Film Gimp guys that they didn't want these things in the main branch after all.

      For me, this is one of the biggest mistakes the GIMP developers ever made, but it also shows a fundamental problem in their attitude: instead of welcoming additions and new users scratching their own itches, they locked them out and told them they weren't welcome. Of course, you do have to focus on what you want to accomplish in a project and avoid feeping creaturism, but rejecting features that are clearly useful and within the scope of a project... that's arrogance.

      As someone else said, it actually shows that GIMP is 10 years old by now. It's still a useful tool, and I actually use GIMP 1.2 almost daily (I also have GIMP 2.2 installed, but I always found it slower and more clumsy than the earlier versions), but the idea to produce a free Photoshop replacement... that was missed long ago, and without some radical changes on both the code and the project management level, I doubt it's ever going to happen.

      I hate to say it, but GIMP is looking old, and considering that it's still considering a kind of flagship among open source application, it's making us all look bad. Is this really the best we can come up with?

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    2. Re:Needed features by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The thing is, The Gimp doesn't make any sense for comics (and a lot of other things). Inkscape or similar vector drawing app would be a much better choice.

      The Gimp is getting mightly outdated these days. Sheesh, 10 years and it's not a whole lot different from the original. I believe their main problem is the whole Gtk+ and C thing. Ugh, what a painful-to-use widget kit. They should have at least gone with C++ (or possibly some other language that makes development easier and faster than C). Don't get me wrong, I love C when used properly, but huge GUI applications is not where it shines.

    3. Re:Needed features by tialaramex · · Score: 2, Informative

      "If I select a region and pour paint inside it, the paint shouldn't leave the margins of the selection."

      Hold down SHIFT, or select the radio button for this kind of fill (which is labelled and has an annotation indicating that it can be activated with SHIFT).

    4. Re:Needed features by FooBarWidget · · Score: 1

      2 -> what are you talking about? I select a region, I click on the bucket fill tool, I click on the region, and voila - the selection is filled, and nothing else. Where is the problem you are talking about?

    5. Re:Needed features by MoogMan · · Score: 1

      Ahh, thank you for volunteering. How soon are you going to start implementing this?

    6. Re:Needed features by BigSven · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, it wasn't quite like you put it. The FilmGimp developers told the GIMP developers that they don't think their code should be merged into the main trunk. It wasn't ready for it and would have broken things all over the place. FilmGimp was after all a very reduced version of GIMP. Noone has ever been locked out of GIMP development. I wonder where you picked that up.

      And no, neither FilmGimp nor CinePaint have CMYK support. That has never been the intention behind this project. Instead it was about adding support for 16bit color depth. That is of course an important feature and at some point it is going to be added to GIMP as well. I can't tell you when because it simply depends on when someone will finish the remaining bits that are needed to bring GEGL into shape so that GIMP can start to use it.

      If you think that GIMP is looking old, perhaps you should really consider to replace that old copy of GIMP 1.2 you are using.

    7. Re:Needed features by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
      There's a GIMP fork called CinePaint (formerly known as Film Gimp, as it focused on features needed by the movie/special effects industry) that has CMYK support, IIRC. The features it adds were originally supposed to get merged into GIMP 2.0, but the GIMP developers later told the Film Gimp guys that they didn't want these things in the main branch after all.

      That's a rather biased view of how things happened. I suppose that some CinePaint developers would like to describe the history like that. But looking at the archives of the GIMP mailing lists reveals a different story: Film Gimp started from a fork of an old version of the GIMP 1.x (based on GTK1), while the main development was taking place on what would eventually become GIMP 2.x (based on GTK2). Film Gimp development stagnated for a couple of years, until a new guy (Robin Rowe) appeared and decided to revive it.

      When he brought this up on the developer's list, the consensus was that it would be much better to take the best bits of the old Film Gimp codebase and merge them into the new architecture that was developed for GIMP 2.x instead of continuing to work on the old Film Gimp and making the fork diverge even further from the GIMP. There were also some arguments why the design of the old Film Gimp and the way it was storing image data was not appropriate for the GIMP and would have to be adapted instead of being merged directly, but I'm not sure that I understand the details of that. Anyway, it looks like he decided to go ahead and work on the old fork despite the suggestion from the GIMP developers. Later, that code was renamed CinePaint. Also, CinePaint distanced itself from the GIMP in very obvious ways (check some old versions of the CinePaint home pages in the web archive). So although the GIMP developers could have handled this in a better way, a lot of issues could have been solved if the features needed for the movie industry had been integrated in the then-current GIMP instead of reviving an old fork like Robin did.

      Just check the archives of the GIMP mailing lists and you will see a different story than the simplistic view that you just described. Also, this statement on the CinePaint home page is just a (bad) joke: "Later the film industry was told no, that GIMP wasn't interested in meeting the film industry's requirements because it wasn't what existing GIMP users cared about." This is very different from what I understand after browsing the archives of the mailing lists (although I can never know if some other discussions took place behind the scenes). Anyway, if you are interested in checking this for yourself, the GIMP list archives are linked from http://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html and you can just browse through the discussions around the times when Robin posted something on the developers lists (check mail-archive for search, or manual browse through the old XCF lists). There were a few personal attacks from both sides, though. So these guys should learn to get together in a better way. But still, it looks like Robin is as much (if not more) to blame as the GIMP developers.

    8. Re:Needed features by Raphael · · Score: 1
      I wonder where you picked that up.

      Maybe from the CinePaint home page, as mentioned in the AC comment below? Quoted from that comment:

      Also, this statement on the CinePaint home page is just a (bad) joke: "Later the film industry was told no, that GIMP wasn't interested in meeting the film industry's requirements because it wasn't what existing GIMP users cared about."

      This statement is indeed present on the CinePaint home page: section "Where CinePaint Came From", middle of third paragraph. If the CinePaint home page propagates this rumor, then it is not surprising that people think that this is how it happened.

      If you think that GIMP is looking old, perhaps you should really consider to replace that old copy of GIMP 1.2 you are using.

      Yes, also I think that the grandparent poster should have a look at the latest stable version (2.2.9) or even take a look at the development version that contains many interesting improvements.

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      -Raphaël
    9. Re:Needed features by FooBarWidget · · Score: 0, Redundant

      The fact that posts like yours aren't modded up just shows you how biased the Slashdot community is towards anti-Gimp comments.

    10. Re:Needed features by Raphael · · Score: 3, Informative
      you can just browse through the discussions around the times when Robin posted something on the developers lists (check mail-archive for search, or manual browse through the old XCF lists).

      Browsing through these archives is not so easy, given their limited search features. But anyway, as I was (unfortunately) involved in some of these discussions, I can confirm that the story is very different from what is presented on the CinePaint home page. My opinion may be biased in this case, but I think that it is unfair to blame the GIMP developers for the CinePaint fork (or more exactly, for the lack of a merge between Film Gimp and GIMP).

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    11. Re:Needed features by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Minor clarification: the "new architecture that was developed for GIMP 2.x" was supposed to be called "GIMP 1.4" at that time, so that's what appears in some comments. It is only later that the developers decided to call the new release "GIMP 2.0" instead of "GIMP 1.4".

    12. Re:Needed features by spitzak · · Score: 1

      I dont think FilmGimp was interested in CMYK support (hint: film does not use CMYK). It was to support more than 8 bits per pixel.

    13. Re:Needed features by nothings · · Score: 1
      I don't think it's reasonable to draw your conclusions based on your summary of events (I haven't read the original thread).

      It sounds like Robin Rowe came along and wanted to add new features to Film Gimp. How hard is it to add new features to an existing project? I don't know if it's easy, but it's doable. Compare that to merging that fork back to something with which it has hugely diverged (or merging the important bits back, or whatever)--that's a huge task that is not going to immediately help introduce new features into Film Gimp (or, presumably, not the new features he wanted).

      But I don't even have to examine Robin Rowe's motivations and itch-scratching urges to point out why your argument is fallacious in an open source context.

      What Robin Rowe does has no effect on what anyone else can do. Anybody at any time could come along and merge the features from FilmGimp/CinePaint back into Gimp 2.x. What Robin Rowe is doing off in his corner of the world makes no difference there. And the reality is that nobody in the Gimp camp has done this, because they don't care. Maybe they're not opposed to those features (as grandparent implied), but it's also not Robin Rowe's fault that nobody has merged the two projects, only that he himself hasn't. The Gimp developers apparently aren't interested in doing the work themselves. But who in the world is going to have that itch? This is the classic problem with open source: if the work is dirty, somebody needs to get paid for it to happen.

  27. Add rounded corners to your submission by andyatkinson · · Score: 1

    I prefer GIMPShop since I can speak the same lingo moving between Photoshop and the GIMP. If you want to add rounded corners to your submission, or a drop shadow, check out this guide. Looking for feedback if you have a better/automated/Script-Fu way of accomplishing the same task.

    http://paininthetech.com/creating_rounded_corners_ with_gimpshop

  28. Please please please submit something. by JemalCole · · Score: 1

    Wow - is it just me or would all of the current submissions be a step down for the GIMP?

    If you have a creative bone in your body, please submit something.

    1. Re:Please please please submit something. by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      I did, before the gallery got removed because of slashdotting. Oh, wait... you were insulting my ingenious masterpiece, too! You bastard!

      (I don't claim I can produce any usable graphics -- but considering that my thing is among two best submissions at the moment, you're really right.)

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  29. Outstanding! by Army+of+1+in+10 · · Score: 1

    Now where did I put those copies of goatse.cx and tubgirl?

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  30. Inkscape's cool too + SVG by Forget4it · · Score: 2, Informative

    Don't forget the beauty of Inkscape - the latest version v0.42.2 made it even cooler to use to create web-savy SVG that Firefox 1.5 now renders out of the box. I love those Calligraphic pen tools!

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  31. Exactly by cca93014 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Real geeks don't win prizes; the merely have them committed to CVS.

  32. Re: Submissions by Urusai · · Score: 3, Funny

    OK, now the gimp is seeking submissives...er, I mean...

    Is it OK to submit Photoshopped entries?

  33. Re:10 years of Innovation by KiloByte · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In fact, the user interface differs so much that a photoshop user has a very hard time using Gimp -- and someone used to the Gimp finds Photoshop cumbersome.

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  34. Another archive of splash screens. by antdude · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here on the official Web site.

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  35. Birthday present by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Happy birthday The GIMP!

    We got you EXACTLY what you wanted for your birthday! A slashdotted server! Enjoy!

  36. Pulp Fiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For God's sake just use the image of the Pulp Fiction gimp and get it over with.

  37. plain meaning of "Gimp" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would it be cruel to submit a "handicapped" sign?

  38. Unique Opportunity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The GIMP is a great piece of software. However, it still lacks some features (like CYMK support) that are difficult to implement. That would need full-time developpers. The soon comming 2.2.10 release is an unique opportunity to get some funding. Take the splashscreen, divide it in small 10x10 squares and sell each of them for advertising. That would bring some money to sustain the development. The result would look like that (I still have to polish it before submiting it to the contest).

  39. Nice try... by blwrd · · Score: 1

    ... to /. the gimp.org website by putting direct link to current submissions :P

    The proactive measures has been taken; The requested URL /contest/gallery.cgi was not found on this server.

  40. Re:yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    K5 is over there: ----->

  41. Just submit your own entry by apankrat · · Score: 1

    Just submit your own entry and make it fully transparent :)

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  42. can someone more cool than me by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

    please tell me what is up with the shifting eyes on the gimp gif here on slashdot? is there a story behind this?

    i had to up my schizophrenia meds because of it when i scanned this story

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  43. performance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know, it wouldn't need a splash screen if it took less than 5 minutes to start up.

  44. Random gimp question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not on topic, but maybe someone can help me anyway.

    Is there any way to get a tool to stay open? For example, I find that I want to pick a few colors from various images and then open the curves tool to adjust color balance. However, I find myself reduced to writing down various color values, since as soon as I open the curves tool, the color picker disappears. I'd like to be able to open multiple tools and have them stay there until I explicitly close them.

  45. 10th Anniversary renaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about a 10th anniversary renaming party? Yeah, yeah, call me PC, but I have hard time sometimes getting people interested in, and taking seriously, a product called "gimp".

    Worst...name...ever.

  46. JPEG selective region compression by harmonica · · Score: 1

    5. At least one major feature that is missing from Photoshop (like, say, selective region compression in JPEG, which has been part of the spec from the beginning and would allow you to set a different lossy for a region containing text).

    I don't think "selective region compression" is part of the JPEG spec. Care to elaborate?

  47. Not impressed with the newer Gimp by Omega · · Score: 1
    Slightly OT, like the parent post, but... :)

    I think I prefer the older Gimp (1.2). I've tried a couple versions from the newer 2.x series, and I think it's lost some of its quality. Sure adding Python-Fu is nifty and there's some nice eye-candy in the tools, but they've dropped some of the important features, and I'm noticing more color artifacts in my images after I make some simple changes.

    e.g. Image->Colors->Invert from v1.2 has disappeared. Filters->Colors->Value Invert is a poor replacement.

    Also, the menu-reorg is a bit confusing. I was used to the old menus so I can't always tell whether a feature has been removed or moved without extensively searching all the menus. A nice 'use Gimp 1.x menus' preference would be nice here.

    Finally, the big thing Gimp 1.2 lacked was font/text processing -- and that was what I was really hoping they were going to fix in the 2.x series. Unfortunately, they didn't. Their dynamic text layers have always sucked, so (IMHO) it's really a shame that it's now the only option for adding text to an image. Open Office Draw is way ahead of Gimp when it comes to font/text processing.

    I know it's an OSS project, and I (admittedly) haven't contributed a single patch to make it better -- so I don't really have a right to complain. It's just sad that the later versions of the Gimp seemed to have taken a step backward.

    1. Re:Not impressed with the newer Gimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Image/Colors/Invert has not disappeared, it has moved to Layers/Colors/Invert.

      Some text tool functionality has indeed disappeared ... that is to say, some functionality of the Freetext filter has disappeared. The text tool itself has vastly improved.

  48. Can anyone tell me why gimp' s png by missing_myself · · Score: 0

    files cannot be imported in MS Powerpoint?

  49. ah the splash screen contest by maryjanecapri · · Score: 1

    i remember when i entered a ton of splash screens for one of the recent GNOME splash screen contests. work my @zz off on it and the screen they chose was l^m3. so i fire up the GIMP and start to create a new splash screen and notice that they are requiring a tutorial to go along with this one.

    well girls, i'm sorry. even though i'm a writer, i don't really have time to not only create a new splash screen for your app AND have to work up a tutorial too boot.

    so i guess i'll just have to settle for whatever l^m3 splash screen they choose (and i fire up the GIMP a LOT!).

    maybe the tutorial should include the means to use your own screen shot???

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    1. Re:ah the splash screen contest by SumpyGump · · Score: 1
      From carol (somewhere in the mailing lists):
      one thing we were talking about and
      almost everyone involved with the project so far seems to agree with is
      that at the risk of affecting the quantity of splash submissions, we are
      going to ask for a tutorial to accompany the submitted images.

      So, it seems that the quantity of submitted splash images is being affected adversely. When the splash gallery was up earlier today, there were only 7 screens, and I remember the last contest, there were pages and pages of submissions... I wonder if they will be requiring this tutorial business for future contests...
  50. What about lazy initialisation? by stivi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    First, let me congratulate the Gimp for its 10 years.

    Second, the splash screen is really annoying as well as slow application loading. What abou lazy initialisation of everything that is not needed at the moment and is not essential for basic application run? Just load information about plug-ins, such as name, description, menu entries or tool icons at app startup. Then load tools/plug-ins/scripts when the user first needs them.

    When I launch an application I want to use it immediately. I am fine with half or whole second when I am going to use a tool once or twice for the very first time.

    On the other hand, why should not application learn something about me and my habits? For this simple task, at the beginning, you do not need anything fancy, just collect statistics about tool/feature usage. With this, application can optimallise the lazy initialisation...for example, loading when idle, or preloading only frequently used, or ... (imagine).

    I wish all splashcreens go away and applications start learning something about their users...

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    1. Re:What about lazy initialisation? by BigSven · · Score: 1

      That is exactly what GIMP is doing. Plugins are not loaded on startup unless the executable changed since GIMP was last started. Instead the information is taken from the pluginrc file. For even further reduced startup time, try GIMP 2.3 and see my blog entry about GIMP startup time.

    2. Re:What about lazy initialisation? by moeffju · · Score: 1

      GIMP 2.3 starts in ~2 seconds (on win32 even). I think that's quite acceptable. Give 2.3 a try if you haven't yet, 2.3.5 has been running stable for me for weeks now.

      I also think that plugins and fonts data is already cache - that's why the first startup of a new version always takes a lot longer, since every plugin is re-registered. After that, only new or updated plugins get checked on load, the rest comes from cache.

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  51. The gallery link doesn't work. by dalutong · · Score: 1

    does anyone have the right one?

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  52. Frankly, they should change the name by Dirtside · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I love the GIMP, I use it every day (yes, for real work), but the name is beginning to bug me more and more. It may seem harmless, but 1) it could be a lot more appealing with a better name, and 2) yes, there are some people who find the name offensive. We wouldn't want it named New Image Gnu Graphics Editing Routine, would we?

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    1. Re:Frankly, they should change the name by BigSven · · Score: 1

      The name is GNU Image Manipulation Program, what's offensive about that? You could simply stop using the acronym if it bothers you.

    2. Re:Frankly, they should change the name by frankie · · Score: 1

      How very specious of you. You know damn well 99% of folks, including you and your URL, call it GIMP (with or without capitalization). I agree with Matt's rhetorical question, would you have the same response if it were the New Image Gnu Graphics Editing Routine?

      Facts: the name is offensive to some people (disclaimer: not me), and you've known this for at least 6 years. Rather than issuing belligerent Bush-like denials, you'd be MUCH better off by saying "we're sorry you're offended, but that's not our intent".

  53. Small potatoes? by hairguitar · · Score: 1

    I dig the current splash. I also dig the fact that I can use GIMP at work for shizzle which can't be done on winblows.

    Bottom line: Why give a shit about the splash screen? Show me the $muscle.

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  54. wallpaper? by JamesGecko · · Score: 1

    Is this entry avalable as wallpaper or something? Seriously, I'd love to have this as my desktop background.
    http://www.gimp.org/contest/gallery.cgi?display=im age&name=2005112318574628577

  55. Mac versons by MRKisThatKid · · Score: 1

    Hows about celebrating by releasing a decent mac version

  56. Cumbersome by SgtChaireBourne · · Score: 1
    ... someone used to the Gimp finds Photoshop cumbersome.
    In some ways I think the Gimp has better menus and interface. I used to be a big time Photoshop user, going back to somewhere around version 2.x and have had most versions since. I still have version 7.x for OS X. However, I now find it clunky and awkward to use compared to the Gimp.

    There are still reasons that a professional graphics person will continue to use Photoshop. It's quite good. There are also shortcomings in the Gimp, but for your average user only interested in editing digital photos for the web, logos or icons, it beats Photoshop.

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