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Dotless Top Level Domains?

nodnarb1978 writes "As reported on Yahoo, a Dutch company called UnifiedRoot wants to offer top level domains without extensions. For instance, just typing slashdot would bring up this site, instead of slashdot.org. UnifiedRoot is careful to differentiate itself from New.net, but it seems their similar business tactics leave plenty of room for comparison. Another bone of contention is the price: UnifiedRoot wants $1000USD up front for a registration, with an additional $240 yearly renewal. With domain abandonments higher than ever, is this a solution looking for a problem? And would anybody really want to place control of entire TLDs in the hands of one private company?"

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  1. No thanks by chipster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The TLD is an important piece of the identifier, IMHO.

  2. AOL keywords by BushCheney08 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This sounds almost like AOL's keywords, except on an internet-wide basis. We really don't need further AOLification of the internet...Also, several browsers already tack on .com if you just type a single word into the address bar.

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  3. Kinda wondering how this will be supported. by jZnat · · Score: 5, Informative

    Many web browsers will (by default) submit a domainless word to a search engine like Google unless the domain is covered by your hosts file. How will this work if we don't get direct access to the root DNS' collective hosts files? How will your browser know the difference between typing in "slashdot" to mean the URL "http://slashdot/" or that you want to search for slashdot, thus the URL being "http://www.google.com/search?q=slashdot"?

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  4. Problem by Seumas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm a small fry with a non-commercialized, free site and service that can't afford $1,000 + $240/yr.

    Big company comes in and wants to roll right over me. It's bad enough when someone takes your domain name (but under .net/.org, etc - instead of your own .com). Imagine when someone decides to pony up the cash to completely wipe you out by taking out a rootless domain in your .com domain's name?

    And sure, technically you may be able to fight it in court. But if you can't afford the $1,000 + $240/yr, how the hell are you going to afford an IP / trademark lawyer and a lawsuit?

  5. long domain names by rd4tech · · Score: 4, Insightful

    by their idea, after 10 years, if one wants to register a domain name, the only left ones will be 20 characters minimum. Some division and grouping SHOULD exist.

  6. The dot is useful by venicebeach · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The dot lets you know you're talking about a website. If you see a commercial and it says "go to getfirefox.com" you know you are supposed to type that into your web browser. If people hear instead "go to getfirefox" that will require further explanation...

  7. Re:Really? by JonN · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The large companies would die for this. Imagine you are a small startup company, or you have a website for your own personal interests. Most can't afford the $1000 startup fee, so all it takes for a large company (think M$) to overshadow your domain, is to get the same one, but without the extension.

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  8. Already Tried? by Tachys · · Score: 4, Informative

    This has already been tried http://searchenginewatch.com/sereport/article.php/ 2164841 by Realnames

  9. Agreed!!! by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The TLDs are VERY important, since they help categorise the structure in terms of a tree and give a clear defintion of who is responsible for which subset of the tree.

    Doing what they are doing could potentially screw up internal networks and cause more problems than it solves. Imagine that all your internal hosts have the prefix "internal" and another site pops up called "internal", we would then have the issue of myhost.internal being difficult to resolve. Is it inside the network or outside? I have already have seen something like this happen when internal domains use .local, yet at the same time .local is reserved for use by mDNS.

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    1. Re:Agreed!!! by krasmussen · · Score: 5, Funny

      It all blows up the day some hosting company decides to call themselves "localhost".

    2. Re:Agreed!!! by DavidTC · · Score: 4, Informative

      It wouldn't work. localhost is looked up in the hosts files before DNS.

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  10. Re:Gotta love this business model by cperciva · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The fact [is] that a DNS server requires next to no bandwidth, cpu power or other facilities

    This depends upon the amount of traffic you're handling. I suspect that the .com name servers spend more than $10/year of bandwidth and CPU time answering requests for google.com.

  11. Who wants to be the first? by Xaroth · · Score: 4, Funny

    Who wants to be the first to register "com", and have the entire internet be reduced to a subnet of your domain?

  12. localhost? by comwiz56 · · Score: 5, Funny

    What happens when someone registers http://localhost/ ?

    1. Re:localhost? by jZnat · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wow, that site has an assload of free porn! And what great taste!

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  13. Don't Click! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That bastard posted a goatse link. Whatever you do, don't click on it.

  14. Reality check by rpetre · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You do, of course, realise that those "no-dot" TLDs will be visible only by the clients of the ISPs that use the alternate DNS root. The ICANN does not include these domains into the root zone and all DNS servers use by default ICANN's root servers ( [A-M].root-servers.net )

    I guess there are still a large number of companies willing to throw money into this, so the theory of stupidity-based business models being a guaranteed success is once again confirmed.

  15. Re:Gotta love this business model by saikatguha266 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Oddly enough, DNS does use a fair bit of bandwidth (~13Gbps at the root servers based on numbers in [1]). Adding a new TLD involves adding an entry to these root servers. The root servers already have a hard time answering queries for ~300 TLD's that are quite cachable (60-85% are queries that should have been cached but are not [1]). Adding thousands of additional TLD's which are harder to cache only exuberates this problem. Add to the fact that the root servers are a central point of failure, and represent a big target for DDoS; they require a lot of extra provisioning and security. Medling with the DNS root is no laughing matter.

    Now I don't know how these guys came up with their cost numbers, and whether or not they are justifiable, but I am pretty sure that adding a DNS TLD will cost them a fair bit.

    [1] http://www.caida.org/outreach/papers/2001/DNSMeasR oot/dmr.pdf

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