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Yahoo Email + RSS Integrates Blogs

yapplejax writes "In the new war of the Internet based applications, Yahoo is testing creating an email folder as the hub for RSS instead of using a web page for the feeds. " I've long thought this was the best way to do it- I've used web and application RSS readers for years, and email clients are simply a better interface.

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  1. Search Technorati for '"river of news" email' by supton · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Be careful with this UI concept: email demands immediate attention. More discussion, via technorati: http://technorati.com/search/%22river+of+news%22+e mail

    1. Re:Search Technorati for '"river of news" email' by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Be careful with this UI concept: email demands immediate attention.
      Only if you let it. Many people do treat email like the phone or an IM client, but reading and responding to email is a task in its own right; something you should sit down for and focus on. If you get lots of email, try ignoring incoming mail if you're working on something else (turn the "new email" sound off!). When you feel like it, process all items in your inbox in one go. Trust me, you'll feel much less "swamped" by your email this way. Oh, and if you're afraid of missing an urgent mail item... if something is really urgent, people will call you, believe me.

      With that said, I prefer the specialised RSS readers over Outlook-lookalikes.
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    2. Re:Search Technorati for '"river of news" email' by Mark+Hood · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I couldn't agree more.

      I used to have my email client beep and flash to tell me I had new email, then I realised I wasn't getting anything done.

      So now, it doesn't even tell me if I have unread mail or not - I check it when I'm not busy, and deal with anything then.

      People still thought I'll respond instantly, but it doesn't take long to train them that if something needs my attention, call me - and if I'm too busy, leave a voice message. They get priority, email is an 'as and when' proposition now.

      Mark

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  2. Is this another path for SPAM? by Kirellii · · Score: 1, Interesting

    You know I use to get hardly any SPAM in the old days. I had to go out of my way to find porn on the internet. Now, it is knocking at the door with enhancements I won't need for decades if ever. Somehow, I just know this is going to be exploited somehow. Can anyone explain this in terms that a Windows user could understand? I am without caffeine this morning and this whole thing makes no sense in my fuzzy state. Is this enhancement needed or just another offer?

  3. Outlook 12 by malachai · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Outlook 12 Beta 1 is also incorporating RSS into a mail folder. Seems to be a trend, not necessarily headline news, especially since other mail/news readers have been doing this for a while.

  4. depends on the feed by acroyear · · Score: 3, Interesting

    some sites i prefer processing the RSS through Thunderbird (Newsgator can do the same for Outlook users). other sites are more "blog" like to me and I prefer to read it in a blog style. I let LiveJournal syndicate and group them together so I get all my politics blogs in a single place & style, then all my web design feeds in one place, then my science ones, plus I can get my friends' blogs for those that aren't LJ users to be part of my "friends" list as if they all were in once place.

    I've been sketching out ideas and prototypes on a "feedmixer" project, a php system that would do what LJ does in mixing feed entries into a single place, only more like JavaBlogs, it would mix multiple feeds into a single RSS feed, then CSS, XSL, and Ajax can be used to read it in blog style OR you can get them into a single place in Thunderbird.

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    1. Re:depends on the feed by acroyear · · Score: 2, Interesting

      to be more specific -- "daily" updates are lousy in blog-style. Newspapers and daily update sites like sjgames.com are definitely "inbox" things because they get populated overnight and are in my mailbox-like folder in Thunderbird just fine.

      feeds that are blogs are meant to be read in blog style, even if i'm reading them through my own (livejournal-driven) aggregated UI rather than going to each site individually (becausing remembering to visit all my bookmarks sucks -- let my aggregator visit my bookmarks for me). lj's filters/groups allow me to sort them into reasonable categories.

      sites that change a whole bunch of pages weekly (ibm developer-works) are best for the live-bookmarks feature of firefox. (otherwise, i rarely use it; i think its the worst UI for RSS, and am pissed that firefox hasn't approved the feature to give the little orange icon a clipboard interface when the page designer doesn't put the feed link into the main page -- i have to do view-source and lookup the feed in the meta tags and that sucks).

      the tricky bit is how to deal with feeds from wiki updates and the like, where little things keep coming up. they can flood both a blog-style and an inbox-style reader (and would certainly drive live-bookmarks bonkers). this is a style of feed that needs a rethink in terms of design and rendering -- more abilities to filter than the standard wiki provides.

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  5. Usenet vs. RSS by jfengel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The most fundamental difference between usenet and RSS is that Usenet is push, and RSS is pull. The push nature of Usenet makes spam really, really easy, and hard to fight. You end up accepting a lot of crap on your machine, and filter it out later. When you go to an RSS feed you know that there is control over it, and if one particular source starts spewing junk you stop reading it.

    It also makes Usenet very democratic: anybody can say anything, anonymously. Those two things will always be opposite sides of the same coin. RSS requires more resources of your own (though there are a remarkable number of free blogging sites, so anybody anywhere can create a blog as long as they have Web access).

    Unfortunately, the number of anonymous sources with brilliant information is infinitesimal compared to the number of people willing to spew crap into whatever data stream is available for free. And that's why bloggers won't go to Usenet: they lack the control necessary to keep readers. RSS gives them that control.

  6. Akregator presents RSS in this way by brunes69 · · Score: 2, Interesting
  7. Re:Old news by Vicsun · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As much as I love Opera and it's email/RSS client, it's not quite the same thing as what Yahoo's offering, the difference being that Yahoo's version is web-based and can be accessed from any computer. I personally use Opera's RSS client at home, since it's just so damn awesome, and Google Reader while on an alien PC.

  8. Why not take it a step further... by PrimeNumber · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And use RSS as a replacement for email entirely.
     
    This would solve many problems associated with regular email IMHO. Instead of receiving dozens of unsolicited emails a {Day,Week,Month}, why not have a system that enables a person to setup an RSS feed intended only for one user.
     
    For example, Alice gives Bob a link to a feed that only Bob knows about which is encrypted, and only Bob can read and subscribe to. Alice adds another feed for Carol, Dave, ad nauseum. If multiple recipients are required for an email, the client updates the feeds for the intended recipients only. A similar concept could be applied to workgroups, each recipient in a workgroup has the same key, enabling only that group to use the feed.
     
    This would be a great replacement especially in situations where you send email to the same people frequently. And it wouldnt be annoying and disruptive like an IM client, you could read your 'email' feed whenever you want. Just a thought.

  9. Vienna by adamwood · · Score: 2, Interesting

    OSX users should take a look at Vienna 2. The author's pedigree is in a conferencing (BBS) off-line reader that did mail and news and the interface is extremely clean and email-like.

  10. Re:Old news by jpop32 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    the difference being that Yahoo's version is web-based and can be accessed from any computer.

    And that's why I carry my Opera RSS feeds on a USB stick (basically, you just need to move the Mail directory in Opera's app data dir). You need to have Opera installed on the machine to access it, but I rarely have the need for RSS feeds on other people's computers. As long as my laptop, my work PC and my home PC are synchronized, I'm fine.