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Debugging Microsoft.com

Posted by ScuttleMonkey on from the belly-of-the-beast dept.

teslatug writes "Channel 9 has an interesting video interview with Chris St.Amand and Jeff Stucky who test and debug Microsoft.com. They reveal some of the big problems they used to face such as recycling processes every 5 minutes due to memory leaks and 32 bit limitations, and being unable to push more than 10 Mbits of data to their datacenters due to Windows' networking stack limitations."

16 of 511 comments (clear)

  1. 32-bit... yeah, that's it. by ryanov · · Score: -1, Troll

    So Microsoft.com faced some big problems from running on shitty Windows?

    Don't we all! No... wait... some of us don't.

    1. Re:32-bit... yeah, that's it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      hey lol microsoft has real-world problems too but hay we should all use linux and suck each others' dicks am i rite guyz?

  2. "10-15 Gigabits per Second" by someonewhois · · Score: 0, Troll

    Wow.

  3. OMG by dartarrow · · Score: 0, Troll

    Windows had PROBLEMS?! OMG. Call the Press! Shock. Horror. Oh the horror. That has never happened before!
     
    And hey. If they gotta use unreleased technology to get acceptable quality what about people like us, ey?

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  4. You knwo something is just plain wrong... by scenestar · · Score: -1, Troll

    When a product doesn't even properly for the vendor itself.

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  5. SCOTT LOCKWOOD: DIVORCED FOUR TIMES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Seriously have you seen Vlad's fourth wife (now his fourth ex-wife?) "Human" doesn't really cut it... "creature" is more like it. A gelatinous 500-pound behemoth unable to even wipe her own rear. And she divorced Vlad! One would think that a woman that hideous would hang on to any man she managed to snag. The fact that she dumped Vlad (LOL) says a lot about this man don't you think?

  6. Re:Not just Windows stack limitations by ThinkFr33ly · · Score: 0, Troll

    That is absolutely not what Microsoft has done. You honestly thing the reason they were only getting 10 Mb/s between their datacenters was due to memory copying? And when I said "implementation" I wasn't talking about the internal code, I was talking about the way it interacts across the wire.

    Microsoft has completely revamped the way that TCP handles packet transmission.

    Nice try with the ignorant MS bashing though.

  7. Re:What the... by heinousjay · · Score: 0, Troll

    Do you think maybe you gave up the right to complain when you espoused your beliefs?

    I seriously don't mean to troll - you've voluntarily handicapped yourself. Now you get to live with it.

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  8. In Soviet Russia, Microsoft.com debugs YOU by defile · · Score: 0, Troll

    OK OK I couldn't resist.

    I'll never do this again.

  9. Re:Video transcribed below: by glwtta · · Score: 0, Troll
    Meh, it was mildly amusing.

    Your post, on the other hand, was almost as long and had no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Which, I supposed, means you should be shot in the head.

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  10. Re:Recycling processes is normal for windows by tomhudson · · Score: 0, Troll

    A few infinite loops, perhaps each creating a dozen new database connections and allocating a massive string buffer in memory.
    Won't work. I accidently wrote some code that, instead of requesting 20 pix, requested 400 copies of each of 20 pics, for a total of 8,000 pics (a couple of nested loops that I crewed up on) every time a user clicked. So here I am testing it, and wondering why the server is taking a few seconds to respond ... so I click again ... and again. It works, I get the pics, but I'm wondering, so I keep on clicking, just for the hell of it, and do a top. Whoa, what a load! But Apache never crashed (and this was on a comparatively memory-poor box by today's standards - 256 meg), just took a second or two ... and nobody else connected to the box complained.

    Spare me the anecdotal stories of your LAMP solutions doing so much better than your Windows solutions. You have absolutely no credibility given your complete ignorance.
    No, its Windows that pretty much has no credibility. The one thing it DOES have that nobody else has is the widest selection of trojans, viruses, worms, and idiot users.
  11. Re:What the... by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: -1, Troll

    Maybe he should cry on a blog about it.

    The content producer chose wmv for whatever reason, and it was their choice. Same reason they chose html even though some playforms cant render it, english even though some people dont speak it, etc.

    If you're unable to get what you want out of content, thats your fault, not the content producers fault. Choose a playform better suited for your desires, or desire something else. Complaining about not being able to view the video is like complaining that beos doesnt support your ipod-- its something /YOU/ have to deal with, not them.

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  12. Re:What the... by motormal · · Score: 1, Troll
    fuck you[,] blongs [sic] are awsom [sic]

    Spoken like a true blogger...

  13. Re:What the... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    "blogger", haha fag [sick]

  14. Re:Remember Hotmail? by Drestin · · Score: 0, Troll

    Congratulations on posting a comment, not suprisingly modded up, that was totally and completely devoid of any accurate or true facts (apart from MS did purchase Hotmail 'round about '97). You've managed to repeat every lie surrounding the Hotmail purchase and subsequent (successful) migration to a Windows 2000 server environment (all clearly documented, but you'd rather not both with the truth) and even manage to throw in some unsupported random Linux BS too. Hearsay? I'd say! The original builders of the application created a two-tier architecture built around various UNIX systems. During June and July of 2000, the Hotmail site was converted from FreeBSD running Apache Web services to Windows 2000 Server running Microsoft Internet Information Services 5.0. The first and only time it was tried and, it worked... better. The true story can be found here: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/interopmigration/ case/hotmail/default.mspx

  15. Re:Easy. by kernelpanicked · · Score: 0, Troll

    I'm not going to keep going back and forth on this. It's retarded. I was trying to point out that the assumption that 32 bit code automagically fails to run on 64bit architectures is fundamentally flawed. It works quite well and yes even on Sparcs. Some of you guys are still under the impression that just because you signed up for a slashdot nick it means you have a clue what the hell you're talking about. Sorry it really doesn't work that way.

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