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Slashback: Cancer, Cats, ICANN

Slashback tonight brings some corrections, clarifications, and updates to previous Slashdot stories, including the demystification of Australia's "Mystery Cat", the US Government backs Microsoft in their battle against Korea, RedHat joins the fun and decides to invest in India's economy, the ICANN community slams the VeriSign deal, and Clinical results from the cancer-killing virus trials - read on for details.

Australia's mystery cat demystified. Bitsy Boffin writes "Back in October Slashdot ran a story from the Herald Sun about the shooting of a mystery "Big Cat" in Australia. At the time the tail (the only part the hunter brought back) of said cat had been sent off for DNA testing. The Herald Sun reports the findings of those DNA tests which show that the mystery cat wasn't a leopard or jaguar, just a really, really big feral cat."

US backs Microsoft in Korean antitrust case. CODiNE writes "Stating that 'Korea's remedy goes beyond what is necessary or appropriate to protect consumers' the Justice Department's antitrust division rejects the recent Korean FTC ruling. 'Sound antitrust policy should protect competition, not competitors, and must avoid chilling innovation and competition even by "dominant" companies.'"

RedHat follows Indian investment trend. An anonymous reader writes "After several other companies have decided to invest in the Indian economy it looks like RedHat will be following suit. According to the article, RedHat plans on hiring about 300 people for an investment of about $20M."

ICANN community slams VeriSign deal. Rob writes to tell us that an overwhelming amount of the ICANN community recently took a stand against a proposed deal that would allow VeriSign to raise the price of .com domain names by up to 50%. VeriSign accused ICANN of illegally "regulating" its business. ICANN had previously blocked services VeriSign wanted to launch on the grounds that they would harm the stability of the internet.

Clinical results from cancer-killing virus. just___giver writes "Results from human clinical trials show that terminally ill patients with aggressive metastasized cancer are receiving benefit from the recently covered virus that kills cancer when it is administered intravenously. They still have higher doses to test in this ongoing study. This safe, naturally occurring, unmodified virus has a remarkable ability to infect and kill cancer cells, without affecting normal, healthy cells. Numerous other third party studies show that the Reovirus should be an important discovery in the treatment of 2/3 of all human cancers. It is patented, easy to manufacture in large quantities, and even increases the effectiveness of conventional chemo and radiation therapy. Numerous phase 2 studies are being planned for 2006." OncolyticsBiotech also has a short video describing the process.

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  1. Also: Podcast beats out Lifehack, Rootkit by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Informative


    In the ever hot battle to be included in the Oxford American Online Dictionary (login reqd.), Podcast beat out Lifehack and Rootkit (It will be added in 2006)

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  2. Oh Crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A cheap, easy cure for cancer? No. It's Patented. It'll still be horribly expensive.

    1. Re:Oh Crap by rdoger6424 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Now if it were contagious...

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  3. Cancer-fighting virus? by Army+of+1+in+10 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    What guarantee is there that this virus won't end up mutating into something worse than the cancer it's supposed to fight?

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    1. Re:Cancer-fighting virus? by geekoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      how about testing? like they're doing.

      How about people stop with the 1/4 baked ignorant alarmest fears regarding something new.
      You want a gaurentee, here is one:
      Someday, you will die.

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    2. Re:Cancer-fighting virus? by SteveAstro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Errrr. Worse than terminal metastatic cancer ? Sorry ? How "worse" ?

      Steve

    3. Re:Cancer-fighting virus? by technoextreme · · Score: 2, Funny
      Errrr. Worse than terminal metastatic cancer ? Sorry ? How "worse" ?

      Dying from terminal metastatic cancer??
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    4. Re:Cancer-fighting virus? by NotoriousGOD · · Score: 2, Funny

      A black plague that kills half of western europe would be worse. Or better, if you don't like europeans.

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    5. Re:Cancer-fighting virus? by rdoger6424 · · Score: 2, Funny

      then Walmart could narrow their aisleways

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    6. Re:Cancer-fighting virus? by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Terminal metastatic cancer that's contagious would be worse.

      You mean like the Human Papiloma Virus that affects millions of women every year?

    7. Re:Cancer-fighting virus? by c_forq · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dying from terminal metastatic cancer??

      Good to see that the Redundant Department of Redundancy has active employees.

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    8. Re:Cancer-fighting virus? by meburke · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I noticed the phrase, "safe, naturally-occurring" and "patented" in the artical. This, to me, represents the failure of our IP system. Nobody has explained to me how it right to patent something that is "naturally-occurring". To me, the discovery process, discovery tools, extraction, storage and methods of use or distribution should all be patentable, but NOT the virus itself. Anyone care to forward an argument otherwise?

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  4. Really, really big feral cat? by bhsx · · Score: 4, Funny

    From the photos that were taken of the hunter with the catch, I find it hard to believe that a "domestic" style cat could ever get that large. It was huge! Damned, I better watch what I say around Shady. Come here Shady, OMG NO!

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    1. Re:Really, really big feral cat? by Tumbleweed · · Score: 5, Funny

      Come here Shady, OMG NO!

      That was, perhaps, not the real Shady. Will the real Shady please stand up.

  5. More Corrections by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
  6. Patented Virus? by Mecdemort · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How do you patent a naturally occuring virus?

    1. Re:Patented Virus? by Cipster · · Score: 3, Informative

      - You patent the method of isolating it
      - You patent the method of delivering it
      - You patent its use as a cancer treatement etc.etc.

  7. I don't understand by mr_zorg · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This safe, naturally occurring, unmodified virus... It is patented...

    I guess I really don't understand the purpose of a patent. If it is a naturally occurring, unmodified virus, why on Earth should you be able to patent it? But I suppose if they can patent the human genome...

    Or is it really the application of this virus as cancer therapy that's been patented?

    1. Re:I don't understand by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 4, Insightful
      why on Earth should you be able to patent it?

      Without reading TFA, I'd guess that the patent is not on the virus itself but on the large scale production and use of it in a clinical manner.

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  8. 2 out of 3 by moosesocks · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is patented, easy to manufacture in large quantities, and even increases the effectiveness of conventional chemo and radiation therapy.

    Well, 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

    But seriously. If it's 'naturally occuring' and easy to manufacture, how the hell do they have a patent on this? I'm a hardcore capitalist, but being as how this could be the holy grail of modern medicine, I think the government definitely needs to step in to make sure us mere mortals can afford it (no pun intended).

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  9. Nothing to be seen here by Lars+T. · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's just a COUS.

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    1. Re:Nothing to be seen here by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 3, Funny

      Cats of unusual size? I don't believe they exist.

  10. Cancer by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 2, Insightful
    This is absolutely fantastic. And frankly, this is the sort of thing someone should be rewarded for. Not everybody gets to claim "I found a cure for cancer".

    However, I have to admit that I am a bit trouble by this being patented. It is naturally occuring, easy to create, etc. The only thing that could possibly complicate this is a greedy corporation who has the patent and wants to enforce it and make tons of money. So rather than use government and philanthropist and charity money to cure a LOT of cancer, this company will be making billions off of a potentially life saving natural drug.

    Now of course none of this has happened yet...but I won't be too surprised if it does.

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    1. Re:Cancer by mc6809e · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The only thing that could possibly complicate this is a greedy corporation who has the patent and wants to enforce it and make tons of money. So rather than use government and philanthropist and charity money to cure a LOT of cancer, this company will be making billions off of a potentially life saving natural drug.

      Any company that finds a way to cure 2/3rd of cancers deserves to be rich.

      Jeez. We make young men that can hit or throw or catch a ball instant millionaires, yet complain that someone might get rich from curing cancer.

  11. Terminology... by stienman · · Score: 2, Insightful


    RedHat follows Indian investment trend

    Is that what people are calling outsourcing now?

    -Adam

  12. It's not just Red Hat too by mrokkam · · Score: 2, Informative

    Even McDonalds is investing in India now.(100 million dollars approx)
    Article

    So all you guys hoping that you can get a job at McDonalds asking "Do you want fries with that"... think again;);););).

  13. For USA citizens... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...who wonder why you have a reputation for being arrogant, this is a perfect example. Your government has "rejected" a decision by a Korean court about Korean law. An American company has said that the Korean court didn't "properly apply" Korean law. Perhaps it escaped your attention, but if South Korea want laws to work in a certain way, it's not your place to say whether that is okay or not. Other countries don't need your approval if they want to enforce their own laws in their own terroritory.

  14. Patenting virii by Locke2005 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This safe, naturally occurring, unmodified virus... is patented Can't God or Darwin or somebody claim prior art on this? Pardon me while I file a patent on EVERY existing genome... I'll own EVERYTHING!

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  15. Bruce McDonald: get back to work! by ChaosDiscord · · Score: 3, Funny
    "Korea's remedy goes beyond what is necessary or appropriate to protect consumers, as it requires the removal of products that consumers may prefer," J. Bruce McDonald, deputy assistant attorney general at the Justice Department's antitrust division, said in a statement.

    Ummm, Bruce, could I see you in my office for a minute? Great.

    Bruce, I appreciate your enthusiam. I really do. It's really great. But, you know, there is a lot of work to do in the office. Stuff related to US antitrust law. It'd be really great if you could spend more time worrying about enforcing our laws and judgements, and less worrying about Korea. 'Cuz, umm, that's what the taxpayers are kinda paying ya for. We on the same page here? Great. Well, back to it then.

    1. Re:Bruce McDonald: get back to work! by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "But sir, Microsoft donated eleventy zillion dollars to your re-election campaing. And Bill and Melinda had you on their yacht."
      "Really?"
      "Yeah."
      "Bruce, you're doin' a heckuva job!"

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  16. Re:Saw giant cat in Florida by AJWM · · Score: 2, Informative

    Um, google for "florida panther".

    Now, maybe that ranger was clueless or maybe by "the region" he meant central Florida -- the Florida panther's range is more southwestern Florida -- but it's not like the critters couldn't walk from A to B if they had a mind to.

    If that is what you saw, consider yourself lucky to have seen it. (There probably wasn't much risk to you -- if the behaviour is anything like the mountain lions around these parts (Colorado), it'd leave two adults on bikes alone. A kid or a dog on its own, on the other hand...)

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  17. comments on cancer by jbloggs · · Score: 2, Informative

    I sent the link to my friend who's a cancer researcher, and this was his response:

    good concept, but i don't think that it is a real solution for all cancers. while the concept of viral delivery is what most gene therapeutics aims for, selectivity is often a problem. it is interesting that this company uses reovirus to administer 2-aminopurine to cells to inhibit the ras pathway, which is often upregulated in cancer cells. the other problem is that this technique absolutely cannot be used on immunocompromised patients that have cancer (e.g., an AIDS patient with Kaposi's sarcoma, or an organ transplant patient who happens to be unlucky enough to develop cancer while under immune suppression therapy--a common method for organ transplant procedures). however, there are a few specific issues that are limiting to this approach.

    1) i'm not sure whether it's true that all human cells have the viral response that is efficient enough for total viral clearance. i'm not all that familiar with reovirus... if it were the case that all normal human cells could completely neutralize and clear reovirus, then reovirus would not be able to continually inhabit the respiratory and bowel systems of human beings, as this company claims (because our cellular responses would have totally cleared it out).

    on the other hand, if the reovirus is a natural part of the flora of our respiratory and bowel systems, then profusing patients with this reolysin would in theory cause a crapload of damage to those systems of our body (because then the engineered virus could "naturally" replicate and spread through those areas.

    2) also, reolysin targets the ras pathway....while ras is often either constitutively active, or overexpressed in cancer cells, it is unfortunately not the only gene which is upregulated. many other genes are often overexpressed. these genes are called oncogenes (or tumor promoting genes). there are several other genes that are often overepressed, which are separate from the ras pathway. furthermore, there are another class of genes called tumor suppressor genes, which are often inhibited or permanently lost from cancer cells. unfortunately, stopping the ras pathway will not stop cancer cells which are driven by these phenomena.

    however, i think that on a case by case basis, this may be a good therapeutic in combination with other therapies. otherwise, i think that using this therapy alone may be a way of selecting for cancers which do not depend completely on the activated ras pathway for propagation.

    in any case, if their statistics are true from their clinical trials, it sounds promising, but definitely more basic science and clinical studies need to be done to ensure that this is a safe therapy for general cancer use.

    another interesting and developing technology in both britain, and our institute as well as i think two or three other places in the US, is called peptide homing. basically our ex-ceo and another major british bigwig scientist have been mapping out the human body by protein sequence signatures that are specific to every organ, tissue, and even the specific blood vessels that pass through a specific organ. so rather than use viruses (which can often mutate and do things that we don't want), we use these nanoscopic spheres that are coated in antibody that specifically seeks out a certain protein sequence (kind of like a ball covered in velcro). the little spheres can hold payloads of anti-cancer chemicals or protein inhibitors which are then released at the target site. the limiting issue at the moment is how to get specificity of cancer cells. while these little nanospheres can deliver the drugs/inhibitors to a very specific area, it is ideal to have exact cell specificity. so scientists are now working really hard to identify surface molecules displayed on the membranes of cancers cells, but not normal cells.

  18. Caution: stock is being pumped... by wuzzeb · · Score: 2, Informative

    The exact blurb in the article summary was posted on the yahoo finance message board for ONCY, see here. The post asks for people to spread the word. When accused of attempting to pump the stock, he replies Well the last time I got published it added a few million to the market cap. here.

    There are also some funny comments asking what kind of editor would post a review like that... well of course slashdot would!