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Scientists Unlock Reasons Cancer Spreads
* * Beatles-Beatles writes "Instead of a cell just breaking off from a tumor and traveling through the bloodstream to another organ where it forms a secondary tumour, or metastasis, researchers in the United States have shown that the cancer sends out envoys to prepare the new site."
sure is a slow news day today...
Can someone link to/explain the Beatles-Beatles ref. please?
-Jar
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I propose we slashdot the website. Who's coming with me?
Ignoring the **Beatles pagerank, understanding how cancer physically moves about in a host might just lead to novel medical techniques for anything ranging from delivering blocking drugs that occupy the targets to something like Halo's Flood that colonize the organism.
/flippant 8p
Shh.
previous comment copy/pasting a comment before that about the issue.
Whoops...
Here is the real meat.
Sorry
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Oh yeah! Well I've got an anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-missile!
linkage.
Shh.
Carl Fogle seems like a really greasy bastard, promoting some schmaltzy Beatles memorabilia with an otherwise interesting cancer story.
Of course, the funny thing is that if he's misuing the PageRank of Slashdot, that increases the odds that geeks at Google will take note of what the greaseball Carl Fogle is doing, resulting in his sites getting bodyslammed in the future. That will hurt his business, and he won't be getting so much Geld when it is all over.
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My question is: does this have the same effect as comments do? Or are links in the stories better for page rank?
What comes first, finding a teacher or becoming a student?
Hey man, got a cigarette?
What is the reason for cancer to spread? What is the reason for tree to grow? They discovered a mechanism not a reason.
Researchers in the United States have shown that Microsoft sends out envoys to prepare the new site.
They are better because they occur in both the archived story, which includes comments, and addtionally in the archived front pages for each day.
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WHO ATE MY BREAKFAST PANTS?
I believe links in the stories are far better. The value Google gives to outbound links is proportional to how many outgoing links there are on the page. Because there are thousands of outbound links on pages with comments, links in your comments aren't going to improve your rankings by any noticable amount, because Slashdot's "Google juice" is shared between them all. On the other hand, links in the stories appear on the main page, which has relatively few outbound links, so they get a share of the juice that is thousands of times larger.
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Pssh. I smoke unfiltered cigarettes for a reason.
They're better for you. The filter is where they put the heroin.
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man: no entry for woman in the manual.
"Qua!?"
Woah that site's css is going to give me a seizu...
Athletic Scholarships to universities make as much sense as academic scholarships to sports teams.
It's not particularly obvious, but * * Beatles Beatles keeps submitting (legitimate) stories where his username links to random websites that apparently have nothing to do with him or the story.
If guests can go on a talk show, and at the end of the segment announce the book they just released, then what's the harm in someone submitting an article and linking their url back to their web page? As long as the article is a quality submission this doesn't seem to be much different from normal practice in other domains.
It has a far, far bigger effect. I've got a plugin in Firefox that tells me the page rank of any page I'm viewing. For the main page of slashdot, it's 9 (I've only ever seen 10 for huge commercial sites - probably costs big money). In here, it's 0.
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
Didn't you mean
You closed two tags which you never opened, a tag without a / implies it opens something, one with a / implies closure so "off". The mention of "ON" and "OFF" is thus redundant.
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Man, I wish I had mod points to add to that post. Funniest thing I've read on /. all week.
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
Don't waste your vote! Vote for whoever you want, unless you live in a swing state it won't matter anyways
Please, please tell me the submission queue system isn't really based on sorting by username... then again, it might explain how this story made it (there's even a typo in the title!).
It's obvious that not one of the editors bothers to read this site, or they would notice the flood of complaints about this every time Beatles-Beatles posts a story. So we should use the one means at our disposal to get their attention - the story queue!
Let's all submit a story about google karma whoring via stupid and gullible Slashdot story editors. Then they might take notice.
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The purpose of said guests appearing on the talk show circuit is solely to promote that book. Submitting stories to Slashdot is, in theory, not about promoting your own sites or sites you are paid to promote. The links to the promoted sites have nothing whatsoever to do with the article and everything to do with increasing page-rank.
...YOU'VE got to be kidding me. Who cares? I personally have so far found all the stuff he's submitted to be interesting information, so I couldn't care less what his username links to! Slashdot is a news site, and he's posting nows, so what the hell is the problem?
If you have issues with this submitter, maybe you can help give him the full slashdot experience.
As far as I know, bandwidth costs money.
If he posts a link, he wants us to click the link, so we should do it, as many times as we need in order to see what's in there, and see what happens in the next submissions.
Slashdot comments have rel='nofollow' in the tag. So they won't change your Page Rank at all.
If you can't find a way, make one!
That and the seizure-inducing mouseover behavior on the main paragraphs (at least in Firefox)...
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I've likened MS more as a drug dealer. "Embrace and extend" keeps the users coming back due to dependency.
Linux breaks the cycle.
Envoy probes sent to Hoth, the ice planet.
There MUST be a relation....
It's sad that all you guys want to talk about is the spread of **Beatles articles, when you have an important discovery to talk about. Who cares even if he found the article on MSNBC
I just lost my step-mom to brain and lung cancer so for the people that this kind of article affects it's important. How about you talk about the choices of **Beatles somewhere else and let the rest of us talk about the issue at hand. Cancer research is probably the most important kind of study going on right now.
Plus I think you'd have a little bit more perspective if you were the cancer patient!!
Peter Corcoran
Exactly... I've got the feeling that the people who are so much against Beatles-Beatles are bitching just for the bitching... I haven't heard one single argument against Beatles-Beatles actually stating why it harms us so much - sure, he might be getting a pagerank, so what ? Doesn't he deserve to get his pagerank up if the moderator's decide that what he's posting is actually good stuff ?
I for one enjoy most of the articles this guy posts, so please, quit bitching until you find some argument that goes against the articles he posts, instead of the person Beatles-Beatles himself.
- Leon Mergen
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Really, I just assumed they would use a FIFO queue to order submissions. Seems like the logical choice anyway.
Comments don't show when you're not logged in, thus links in comments aren't noticed at all.
Guy asked me for a quarter for a cup of coffee. So I bit him.
Someone, please, call the 911-GET-A-CLUE. We have a man down!
This is googles cache of slashdot, as you might notice it is quite old. Now that doesn't really hold any proof for how often google actually _indexes_ the frontpage, but according to my own "research" I'd say it's no more often than every twelve hours. Now, what does this mean?
Every twelve hour googles comes to download the frontpage and finds a link to beatles-beatles homepage. What does it do? It looks on the older copies of slashdot.org and finds what? That it isnt there! It's a temporary link. No consistency. Does that mean it gets a even share of that juicy pr9 pagerank? No it doesnt. It means it hardly gets any pr.
So please, do us all a favor, go read up on the theories on pagerank and then, please please please, stay with the uninformed designer mac-zealots over at digg.com
To Day is a glorious Day in beatles history. The day Lennon uttered thos famous words "Thats not a real gun".
Google actually penalizes sites that suddenly appear with lots of inbound links. Using a link in a signature is actually bad for page ranking.
One further thing that should be mentioned for those who don't know: links in slashdot comments have the rel attribute set to "no-follow"; google won't take into account such links when ranking pages. The links in the article summary are not treated this way, including the username link. (I didn't realise this until I looked at the page source.)
"He's Beetle, and he's bad as can and he knows he's the best."
So please, do us all a favor, go read up on the theories on pagerank and then, please please please, stay with the uninformed designer mac-zealots over at digg.com
I've just emphasised that little gem in your tirade. Neither you nor I nor in all likelihood Beatles-Beatles knows exactly how Google pagerank works. But we, and he, can make educated guesses. You think **Beatles-Beatles is just doing this for kicks? This is a professional search engine spammer we're talking about here.
He's doing this for a reason. Is that reason to get Kudos on Slashdot or to try and increase his Google pagrank. I'll let the good people in the audience figure that one out.
Note please that it doesn't actually matter if this method is working or not. **Beatles-Beatles is attempting to abuse Slashdot to gain pagerank, and he is succeeding in making fools of the editors even if his pagerank remains in the doldrums.
He's making us all look bad. But as you say, I suspect Google are wise to this sort of thing, even if the Slashdot eds aren't.
And by the way, Slashdot stories get copied almost verbatum by a multitude of other sites, so Beatles-Beatles' story, name and sitelink is going to be plastered all over quite a number of sites across the net.
You don't believe me? Here's the a Google search of "ObsessiveMathsFreak writes". Notice the one and only submission I ever got posted is in more sites thatn Slashdot. The list used to be much, much higher.
This came to my attendtion because after posting the story, I was bombarded with spam. My email was included in the article, and with the articles proliferation across the net, so too was my email address duplicated everywhere for all the spammers address crawler bots to see. I've since had to abandon that address. A note of caution to all posters.
Now. Replace email address by site address, and "spammers address crawler bots" by "Google pagerank" bot, and you can see exactly why Beatles-Beatles is doing what he's doing. Let's hope the eds do as well.
May the Maths Be with you!
The domains in question are pretty clearly designed to spam Google by leveraging the enormous PageRank that Slashdot has.
Well, it's working. A search for George Harrison on Google yields his george-harrison.info site in the first page of search results.
"He's Beetle and he's bad as can and he knows he's the best."
Just further proof of Intelligent Design.
... and Just imagine a world where Slashdot article comments stay on the topic of the article.
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You're right. But on most of those pages it's also just temporary links. Or large archive sites that archive everything slashdot ever posted.
Static links on a page get _much_ more of the boost (naturally), a site with thousands of subpages also has less pr to divide.
He's trying to spam, he's succeding in making slashdot eds look bad, is he gaining more search engine boost? Perhaps. Is it much? Probably not. Is he getting quite some traffic from angry slashdotters making his statistics look better? Most likely. Is the traffic he's getting even "close" to what we use to call a "slashdotting"? No, definatly not. Will he become rich of this sceme? No. Would his time be better invested making a better page instead of submitting stories to slashdot? Most likely.
Those are my thoughts. Most of them are backed with my own experiences as a webmaster, and also as a submitter.
Apologies, I don't know what I was on about there. s/comments/signatures/:
Signatures don't show when you're not logged in, thus links in signatures aren't noticed at all.
Guy asked me for a quarter for a cup of coffee. So I bit him.
Am I the only one to notice the little mod war going on? Anyone criticizing the editors and/or the submitter get's modded down for Trolling and Off-topic posting. Anyone supporting the editors gets modded down for trolling. The best comments of both worlds still make through due to additional Insightful and Informative mods, but it really seems like the editors are trying to squash these threads of discussion and the commenters are fighting back.
Are you serious?
You modded down my comment about camel non-filters?
I'm guess I'm honored you spent a mod point on modding down something so trivial, but overrated? Why overrated? It was rated at 0 to start with, it would seem that there must be a reason for putting it at -1. Overrated is to get the +5 posts that are wrong back down to where they belong, not the 0 posts down to -1.
Anyway, I guess I'm glad you bother to read the post at all.
I apologize for my poor spelling in the parent post, often I don't spell check because I don't expect to be modded up or down.
A no-bid contract was awarded, surprisingly, to Enron. When asked what made a defunct Energy trading company with a history of defrauding the American public the proper choice for a cancer study, Bush responded "This is America. If you're not for us, you're against us." Asked what exactly that meant by that, he angrily retorted "I don't take questions from cancer lovers, muslims or liberals."
Bush also said "And we've got our eye on that BeatlesBeatles guy, too, you can be sure of that."
Has anybody noticed tht despite his Beatles "spam" (it isn't) that he does not appear to be successful at it? His site is no where in google - so apparantly whatever his strategy is, it doesn't work. I, for one, actually enjoyed this article and thought it was informative.
Scientist Unlock Reasons Cancer Spreads
...is our children learning?
If you can read this sig, you're too close.
Carl Fogle?
Probably coincidence, but I bet Karl Fogel is not too happy about that.
Now, the parent was off topic. Nice mod.
The grandparent though needs to be corrected.
I figure one more will make three in a row and will get the whole Adelphia high-speed subnet which serves UVM (via contract), Champlain College, CCV, and a few others banned form anonymous posting.
They're attributes of the <a> elements; View Source for this page and search.
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Excuse my ignorance, but to me his name links to a George Harrison site.
Comments do, headlines don't. THat's why he's submitting articles - it gets his followable linked name into the headlines.
Can you?
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