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Coca-Cola's Coffee Soda

Boost writes "According to a new press release Coca-Cola is about to launch a new beverage called Coca-Cola Blak that adds real coffee to the blend. Carbonated coffee?" I imagine this will be quite different than the cans of hot coffee that makes walking around in Tokyo so delicious. But hey, cans of coffee! I'm in for one at least.

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  1. Ä, not A by Jotii · · Score: 2, Informative

    According to the article, the name is BlÄk, not BlAk.

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    1. Re:Ä, not A by k98sven · · Score: 4, Informative

      I guess we can add a category of umlaut after the Heavy-metal umlaut, namely the Silly marketing umlaut. E.g. Häagen-Dazs.

      I doubt they'll keep that name for the umlaut-saturated Scandinavian market though, since bläck/blæk/blekk means 'ink' in Swedish/Danish/Norwegian, and 'Blä!" is the Swedish equivalent of 'Yuck!'.

    2. Re:Ä, not A by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      So it's Coca-Cola Blake?

  2. Picture of the actual product by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
  3. Pepsi Kona by Calimus · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's not the first time. Back in the mid 90's Pepsi did a test market on a similair product that they called Pepsi Kona - Link . I had some family that worked for them at the time and somehow I ened up with 2 six-packs of the stuff.

    The tase took a little getting used to, but the caffine kick was amazing. I was working 3rd shift at the time so the energy boost was welcomed. 2 Cans before I went to work and I was wired all night.

    I found the caffine buzz to be as good as the same ammount of Jolt but without the sugar shakes to go along with it.

    Coke might be able to pull this off, have to wait and see. It's all going to boil down to taste.

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  4. Re:How 'bout some real sugar by Nali · · Score: 5, Informative

    Kosher-for-Passover Coke is made with real sugar.

  5. But what about the flavour? by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 1, Informative
    Real coffee is a natural flavour that is hard to reproduce effectively on a Coke-size commercial scale and will be expensive to do right. It is very different to the current process of using water, sugar and various waste products (caffeine from decaffeination processing, C02 etc)

    Anyone who wants to see how the caffeine gets from coffee into cola should read the National Geographic article.

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    1. Re:But what about the flavour? by bsartist · · Score: 3, Informative

      When any number prefixed with a 0 (zero), without a decimal place, such as 0034, 04 or 02, the zero doesn't hold any meaning

      It does if you're a programmer. It means the number is octal (base 8), just like a "0x" prefix means hexadecimal (base 16). Not that it matters for 2, which is the same in decimal, octal, or hex...

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  6. Re:How 'bout some real sugar by djward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Blue Sky, Whole Foods 365 Brand, and many other sodas sold at "natural" food stores use real cane sugar as well, and they're quite good. Can't buy them from a vending machine in the office though.

  7. Re:How 'bout some real sugar by 11223 · · Score: 4, Informative
    The American sugar growers have basically bought off Congress to put huge tariffs on imported sugar, thus allowing them to keep the price of sugar artifically high in the US. Furthermore the government gives huge loans to the US sugar buyers, which they are allowed to repay in sugar for some number of cents per pound... if they can't sell it on the open market for more than that, they'll just dump it on the government. Basically it's a form of price fixing by the government.


    If we got rid of these rediculous tariffs and subsidies sugar would be cheap enough to use in soft drinks in the US.

  8. Re:How 'bout some real sugar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Nope - nothing to do with the high holy days. This is for Passover, when corn syrup is not permitted.

  9. Re:I remember it too... by BTWR · · Score: 2, Informative

    i don't remember if i saw it or not back then, but according to this link, there seems to have been a Diet Pepsi Kona (look at the picture shown).

  10. Re:Mix fav beverages? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The product is called "Diet Coke", not "Diet Coca-Cola".

    Generally, the diet versions use the "Coke" name, while the regular versions use "Coca-Cola". Of course, Coca-Cola Zero uses the full name because it's a diet that tastes like regular! In fact, The Coca-Cola company doesn't consider it part of the "Diet Coke" line, but rather part of the "Coca-Cola" line of products.

  11. Re:How 'bout some real sugar by Ceribia · · Score: 5, Informative

    If your looking for real sugar come buy your pop in Canada, our Coke still has it.

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  12. Re:Mix fav beverages? by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1, Informative

    If you're ever in the northern suburbs of Chicago, I recommend the Walker Bros. Pancake House (there are two that I know of, one in Highland Park and another in Wilmette.) The food is just incredible, but more importantly they serve "Hawaiian Royal Kona" blend. Best coffee I have ever tasted, bar none. Now, I'm one of those guys that likes good coffee (I even have a real Bunn restaurant coffee machine in my kitchen) but I gotta say those guys do it right.

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  13. Re:Mix fav beverages? by luder · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just a warning. If you ever come to Portugal, never ask for a Kona: you would be asking for 'cunt'. Literally.

  14. Re:How 'bout some real sugar by wass · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yeah, I just wrote up a whole rant against HFCS upthread, and included that as an example. I'm not well-versed in economics or economic history, but I do know Cuba was a huge source of cane sugar. The embargo crippled their economy, and made it that much harder to get cane sugar in the USA. What I'm not certain of is how many US farmers grow cane or beet sugar, and how expensive the farming process is vs corn farming. There is alot of processing the corn goes through to get the HFCS, though. And of course the corn farmers wield political sway, especially with the Democratic primaries in Iowa.

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  15. Re:How 'bout some real sugar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's part of the reason the FDA tries to prevent stevia http://www.stevia.net/fda.htm, a naturally sweet, no-calorie herb, from being marketed in the US as a sweetener. It's a heck of a lot safer than Splenda (which, by the way, has the same health concerns as Nutrasweet got lambasted for a few years back), but the sugar sellers don't want the competition.

  16. Re:Jolt Cola? by staryc · · Score: 2, Informative

    Jolt Cola just has mass quantities of caffeine. Coffee beans are technically part of the fruit group, so maybe it's their new approach to a fruity drink with out slapping another sub label on Sprite?

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  17. Re:Kahlua and fizzy water by damsa · · Score: 2, Informative

    A white russian with coke is actually pretty good. Kalua, Milk, Vodka and Coke.

  18. Re:How 'bout some real sugar by MKalus · · Score: 2, Informative

    Umm....

    Not according to the label of the bottle I have here:

    ""Sugar/Clucose-Frucose" Means it could be either. I bet it isn't sugar.

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  19. Above link is SATIRE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    How did this get insightful? Another link from the same site: "BUSH WILL NOMINATE JUDGE WAPNER TO SUPREME COURT"

  20. Re:Hear Hear! by Panaphonix · · Score: 2, Informative

    Fructose is metabolized by the liver and converted directly into fat. Glucose is used by every single one of your cells. Also in sucrose, the two molecules are bound together, which takes some energy to break up. In HFCS the two are already separate. Lastly, HFCS is the devil.

  21. already been done (not the pepsi version) by hohokus · · Score: 2, Informative

    in new york (or brooklyn in particular) we have "manhattan special"; the label calls it "espresso coffee soda". it's actually pretty good.

    http://www.manhattanspecial.com/products_pure_espr esso.html

  22. Re:Japanese canned coffee by gujo-odori · · Score: 2, Informative

    OK, most of it taste rather nasty hot (especially UCC), but some are good cold, with Gergia being better than msot and Georgia's Mountain Blend being actually quite tasty. Years ago at a coffee machine in the countryside of Kagoshima-Ken, near a bridge where I was fishing, I had a Dydo flavor called Almond Cappucino (IIRC; was definitely almond something, but this a long time ago); thereafter, I checked every Dydo machine I encountered all over the country, but never again saw it anywhere. That was also my last time in Kagoshima, so perhaps it's a local flavor. If so, it must be very local, because I never saw it in Fukuoka(-shi), which I later traveled to several times.

    OK, so this must be at least borderline OT, but I hope someone will at least find it interesting. Too bad there's not a +1 Natsukashii mod :)

  23. Re:Hear Hear! by wass · · Score: 2, Informative
    My girlfriend and I primarily shop at Trader Joes, and then split the other shopping at either the local supermarket or Whole Foods. The TJ's is only 15 minutes away, so it's not too inconvenient.

    I find the cereals there pretty good, at least from what I remember from supermarket cereals. They also have good juices, what we primarily get is the lemonades and limeades. Actually, most of what I drink at home now is watered-down lemonade or limeade, usually 2/3 water and 1/3 the *ade. So that helps too in reducing calories, but still getting a hint of something tasteful. After drinking this watered-down for a few weeks, the full-strength lemonades feel like drinking battery acid (not that I've done that, mind you).

    The primary things I get from TJ's to replace the HFCS items from the supermarket are cereal, juices/drinks, and cookies. Just doing those substitutions for a few months is how I lost some weight. I would also buy their ready-to-go lunches (eg the chinese, mexican, or indian foods), which are about $3, and much cheaper than buying lunch at the cafeteria at school, but not sure if that lunch would have HFCS. But that definitely helps on the budget. And yes, I was just talking yesterday about how some of their cheeses (eg Yarlsburg) is cheaper than the identical brand sold in the supermarket.

    One thing to NOTE - many of the bread items at TJ's DO have HFCS, and I was pretty shocked and somewhat let down to see this. Hopefully this doesn't signal a trend that they'll follow with other items. So make sure you read the labels. But that's another common area for HFCS - it's a 'browner' for bread items, so many things like pizza dough can have it for that nice golden-brown color.

    If the TJ's are far from you, try buying in bulk, you'll save gas money too. We go about once a week, sometimes once in two weeks, and usually buy many boxes of cereal, many bottles of juice and lemonade, etc. We find their dairy products to also be of good quality and decent price.

    But anyway, before sounding too much like a commercial for TJ's, just try to avoid HFCS as much as you can for a few months and see what happens. Before the 'diet' I would drink soda and iced tea with lunch, both with HFCS. I'd drink cranberry juice cocktail or grape juice (supermarket brands WITH HFCS) at home. I'd also nosh on cookies and other sweet snacks with HFCS, etc. Cut that crap out and replace with healthy non-HFCS alternatives and you should hopefully lose some pounds and feel better. But you don't have to go cold-turkey with sweets, just choose carefully what you're putting through your body.

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  24. Walking and drinking in Japan by tm1rules · · Score: 3, Informative
    ...quite different than the cans of hot coffee that makes walking around in Tokyo so delicious.

    When did you go to Tokyo?

    "It used to be that you wouldn't dream of drinking while walking down the street [in Japan]. " - http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5 ?fl20040320cz.htm

    "Walking and eating [in Japan] is taboo, though you will see local people doing it from time to time, especially in tourist destinations. Still, expect to be glared at or clucked at if you eat (or drink) while perambulating. Ice cream might be an exception, but everything else, including canned drinks should be consumed while standing next to the place where you bought them or sitting on a nearby park bench." - http://www.mediatinker.com/hellotokyo/survival.htm l

  25. Re:How 'bout some real sugar by DasBub · · Score: 3, Informative

    Little bit of chemistry info here...

    What we generally call "sugar" is named sucrose or dextrose. Sucrose is a disaccharide which means that it's made of two smaller monosaccharides, namely Glucose and Fructose.

    One way to reduce the cost of your softdrink or other prepared food is to use something referred to as "Invert Sugar". Here's how you do it:

    Take some real sugar, sucrose, and break the bond between the glucose and the fructose, then let them recombine. When you do this, the glucose and fructose actually bond in a different way which makes the substance 1.3 times as sweet as sucrose. It's identical to regular sugar except for that one key bond, and you've instantly cut down the amount you need to add to your product.

    So when you read a list of ingredients and it says "Glucose/Fructose", you're likely eating invert sugar.

    Incidentally, a natural source of invert sugar is honey.

  26. Re:How 'bout some real sugar by Kiryat+Malachi · · Score: 3, Informative

    Parve is actually a very specific meaning within the general meaning of kosher. Parve foods contain no milk, no milk by-product; nor do they contain meat or animal by-products. (Fish is considered parve; poultry is not. Interestingly, while most parve foods may be consumed with meat, fish cannot.) Kosher-marked foods follow the laws of kashrut, but may contain dairy or meat.

    Traditionally, the markings are:

    K or a circled U - Kosher.
    A D by the U/K - Kosher, contains dairy.
    Pareve, parve or p or P - Parve, contains no dairy.

    Generally speaking, kosher meat isn't packaged, so I'm not aware of any generally accepted marking for a kosher meat. Thinking about it, though, there are kosher hot dogs; they must have some marking on them, but I can't for the life of me think of it.

    (A cousin is a shoichet - a kosher slaughterer/butcher.)

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  27. Re:Coca-Cola kills its workers by TheCrayfish · · Score: 2, Informative

    In the interest of balanced reporting... if you're going to read the opinions of the "Killer Coke" people, you should, in fairness, read the other side of the story before you form any opinions of your own.

    See: www.cokefacts.org and, in particular, this page about Coke in Colombia.