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Diebold CEO Resigns Under Cloud

Philip K Dickhead writes "After numerous ethical lapses and much controversy, Diebold CEO, Wally O'Dell resigned to the applause of the markets. Diebold's price improved more than 5% today, as the story broke. Business Week is reporting that O'Dell is leaving for "personal reasons", although the news blog Raw Story cites board action on imminent securities fraud litigation, and legal challenges by states claiming fraudulent certification of Diebold voting machines. Latest vulnerability tests show an impossibly negligent attention to vote security and privacy." Not overly surprising, considering their recent childish antics in NC.

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  1. To invoke Office Space by wampus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Going to federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison? Hey, a guy can hope.

  2. hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    anyone here really trust the age of digital voting? i dont even have faith in the system when votes are done by hand, much less so in digitizing it.

    1. Re:hmm by zCyl · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't think many people here trust it, at least not under anything resembling current models. The major problem is that trust is so prevalent elsewhere. While vast majorities of computing experts are shouting about how dangerous electronic voting is in its current form, the general public is either unaware of the problem, or attributes the shouting to lunatic conspiracy theorists.

      I personally think you have to approach conspiracies with a supply/demand approach. When there's a demand for a conspiracy, and a means of supplying one, then inevitably someone will produce one. The rewards are so great for having a voting conspiracy that we can't do much about the demand side. So what we have to do is make sure no mechanism exists for supplying a voting conspiracy. So long as their exists such a mechanism, people will try to use it.

    2. Re:hmm by Michalson · · Score: 5, Informative

      Try Australia, or even India. Australia used fully open source voting machines with a paper trail - electronic voting entirely transparent and accountable to the voters. The voting machines where made by a private company using requirements drawn up by an indpendent body. The resulting code was then made available on the internet for full public scutany (and several bugs where found and corrected due to public involvement), and company employees where not allowed anywhere near the machines or the voting - no late "patches", no special "help" from the company on voting day.

      India went simple - in a country where many villages are only accessable by elephant or similar transportation, and where there is a huge population (the electorate alone is over 660 million, more then twice the US popultion), they chose to use voting machines with the simplest of components - no operating systems, no databases, just simple electronics designed to allow an official to release one vote at a time to a voting board (list of candidates with a button beside each one), and then close the unit (no more votes could be cast).

      E-voting isn't the problem, it's American politics. Privatized elections carried out with minimal or no government regulation will give you privatized results - not only have private e-voting companies refused to fix major flaws in their software, made untested and unapproved patches to voting machines hours before elections, but the results from those voting machines have been highly suspect - not just that e-voting districts have been the only ones that are wildly out of line with exit polls, and always in favor of the same party, but instances where outright fraud in favor of that same party is obvious - district e-voting machines reporting impossible numbers like many more votes then actual voters, and often negative votes for a non-republican candidate (i.e. Volusia County whose diebold machines recorded -16,022 votes for the democratic candidate). In Ohio the numbers got as high as -25 million votes for democratic candidates.

  3. good riddance by the+arbiter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Boy, is this long overdue. This man bears a lot of responsibility for the current lack of confidence in the legitimacy of our elected officials and elections.

    Whether or not you believe that elections in this country were stolen, you must admit that Diebold's response to questions about the security of their machines and software have, to put it mildly, not been helpful.

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  4. Re:Sore losers by Dster76 · · Score: 5, Funny

    god's party is the majority of his favorite country

    Since when were Republicans touched by his noodly appendage?

  5. Oh look... by digitallystoned · · Score: 5, Funny

    another contract for Haliburton to take over.

  6. two links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    We geeks need to contribute to the open source voting software efforts!!

    There are only two very early stage projects for the US market:

    http://www.openvotingconsortium.org/

    http://www.softimp.com.au/index.php?id=evacs

    I'm trying to help out openvotingconsortium.org and am reading up on the other one which I just found out about.

    What are you doing??

  7. He's served his purpose by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He delivered Ohio to Bush, as promised.

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    1. Re:He's served his purpose by ivanmarsh · · Score: 5, Informative
    2. Re:He's served his purpose by rkcallaghan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Karma burning gripe ahead ...

      Every time one of these articles is posted, some AC shit talker gets modded up for saying "where's your proof?". And everytime, someone posts Bev Harris and all the evidence that is in shocking abundance everywhere but the mainstream news. Unfortunately, for some FSM-unknown reason -- the proof poster never gets off the ground.

      Ivan, if I had mod points today they'd be yours.

      ~Rebecca

    3. Re:He's served his purpose by PostItNote · · Score: 5, Informative

      It sounds like you will only accept evidence that has proven truthful in a court of law. Give us some standards of proof here - right now the preponderance of evidence is that a) the Diebold CEO was a big Bush supporter b) Diebold machines consistently err Republican that c) http://www.electiledysfunction.org/ConyersOhioHear ing_chunk_8.wmv republican organizations were actively enquiring about how they could undetectably change the vote and that d) the election results didn't match the exit polls. If you want to indictable evidence that everyone agrees upon, then you are out of luck. All that we have is evidence of either gross stupidity or maliciousness. Since we can't rule out the former, and the lack of a paper trail outrules testing whether vote switching occurred, it's circumstantial evidence forever. If you are determined to think the best of the man, then nothing anyone says will convince you otherwise.

      But since he's either too dumb to be a CEO or too evil, either way I'm gald he's gone.

    4. Re:He's served his purpose by AoT · · Score: 4, Funny

      I would say most people think about 1/5 of Americans are irrational and insane, it is just a matter of which fifth that they differ on.

    5. Re:He's served his purpose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Did you know....

      1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S.

      http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/ 042804landes.html
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diebold

      2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry.

      http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0916-04.htm
      http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/ 042804landes.html

      3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers.

      http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/private_comp any.html
      http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/ 042804landes.html

      4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

      http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/28/sunday/m ain632436.shtml
      http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1647886

      5. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of ES&S. He became Senator based on votes counted by ES&S machines.

      http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2004 /03/03_200.html
      http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/031004Fitraki s/031004fitrakis.html

      6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected with the Bush family, was recently caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee.

      http://www.blackboxvoting.com/modules.php?name=New s&file=article&sid=26
      http://www.hillnews.com/news/012903/hagel.aspx
      http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/000896.ph p

      7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's vice-presidential candidates.

      http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_28/b3689130.ht m
      http://theindependent.com/stories/052700/new_hagel 27.html

      8. ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the U.S. and counts almost 60% of all U.S. votes.

      http://www.essvote.com/HTML/about/about.html
      http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/ 042804landes.html

      9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters.

      http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm
      http://www.itworld.com/Tech/2987/041020evotestates /pfindex.html

  8. 'Nuff said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The head of Diebold is also a top fundraiser for President Bush's re-election. In a recent fund-raising letter Diebold's chief executive Walden O'Dell said he is "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

    'Nuff said.

  9. Re:The customer is not always right by Billly+Gates · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or how about the CEO being close friends to Dick Cheney and a top republican supporter while his competitors supported both parties instead?

    The bush administration typically punishes those who give to the democrats and rewards those who give to the republicans. Price is irrelivant and only the lobbying effort counts to get government contracts.

  10. This will turn out to be merely symbolic by BandwidthHog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh, what a beautiful symbol it is though!

    The downside as I see it is that there’s an excellent chance that in the long run Diebold will be depicted as a good company that was badly run for a while by one bad man, but once he left, returned to goodness. This would make his resignation, ironically enough, a setback for that vanishingly small minority of us who care deeply about the legitimacy of our nation’s electoral process.

    But hey, I’d love to be wrong about this.

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  11. So, move to Delaware. by Medievalist · · Score: 4, Interesting


    We've had electronic voting booths for ages (we had incredibly complex mechanical ones until the old clockmakers that built them for us all died or retired).

    But we still haven't had any election fraud attributable to the machines.

    Basically, it's because we have so few electors our votes aren't worth stealing. :(

  12. Re:"news blog" ? by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Huh? The ad says "Anti-Bush Gifts and Gear". That doesn't strike me as a very credible news site.

    Yes, because if someone doesn't like Bush (like 2/3 of us now), then up is down, black is white, and the sky is every color except the one they say it is.

    Raw Story is well known to be a source of very early, unripe, possibly wrong information. It's raw, like the Drudge Report. But I check it all the time (rather than give hits to Drudge) because whenever a big story erupts I see it there first. It's a good site for the latest scuttlebutt. In this particular case there have been plenty of confirming sources during the past few days.

    You saw "anti-Bush gifts and gear" and assumed the site is not credible because of a bias. Credible opinions are not necessarily "balanced". It's gotten to the point where editors at major newspapers are deliberately skewing stories to make them more "balanced" to please people like you. If I see "balance" in a story anymore I have to assume I'm being lied to.

  13. Re:Bad news by Ken+Broadfoot · · Score: 4, Funny

    God does vote!

    So does Satan.... Normally the votes negate each other.

    However last year they both voted for Bush...

    --ken

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  14. Probably Not by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Even if he's indicted, tried by a jury, found guilty and sentenced to a PMTA prison, his alleged services to the current administration would probably buy him a "Get out of Jail Free" card in the form of a presidental pardon for all crimes.

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  15. Re:Sore losers by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful
    And maybe he and numerous other candidates for other elected offices did win fair and square, but with the severe problems with these voting machines, in many cases, how will the voters ever know?

    While I'm sure there'll be plenty of partisan blows over the Diebold machines, at the end of the day this is about a company that, at the very least, was thoroughly negligent in the machines that it put out. There are serious questions not just to be answered by Diebold, but by various officials who approved these machines.

    It's rather sad that it is, to some extent, turning into a partisan battle, because one would hope that all people; politicians, voters and investigators, irregardless of their political leanings, would care more about democracy.

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  16. What I don't understand is ... by Empty+Yo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    why the company's machines were even used in the first place. The minute he announced his very partisan feelings on the election, his machines should have been instantly pulled as suspect. It should have been up to Diebold to prove they were secure and accurate instead of up to the public to prove that they weren't.

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  17. The basic concept is flawed. by khasim · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The "e-voting" concept should be ... the computer prints the ballot and that paper ballot is your vote. That ballot lists ONLY the names you chose. You read that and drop it into the ballot box.

    The computer counts the number of paper ballots it has printed for each candidate. This number can be released to the news agencies. But the real vote is the paper ballot.

    At the end of the day, the names of the voters who used that machine are counted, the paper ballots are counted and both of those are compared to the total number of votes the machine says were cast. If they don't match, there is a problem.

    In case of recount, the paper ballots are hand counted.

    A random number of machines should also be checked against the ballots cast at them.

    Multiple checks.

  18. The problem is more than just one guy... by dtjohnson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just getting rid of the Diebold CEO does not fix the problem because the problem is the *system* rather than just one man. It is the system that allows one company to submit voting systems for use by the public with no oversight of their accuracy and integrity and it is the system that enables corrupt elected officials to allow Diebold to do as it pleased. The next Diebold CEO might be worse than the last one. Even worse, there will likely be other diebold-like companies springing forth to provide similar voting systems. Until the American public are able to throw off their cloak of indifference, timidity and cowardice and stand up to the Diebolds in their local jurisdictions, the system will remain broken.

  19. What is the US Secret Service doing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What is the US Secret Service doing?

    It is supposedly their responsibility to see that election fraud doesn't happen, yet the evidence of fraud is clear as a day.

    Why? Are americans happy with this?

    http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Diebold_insider__all eges_company_plagued_1206.html

    Shortly before the election, ten days to two weeks, we were told that the date in the machine was malfunctioning, the source recalled. So we were told 'Apply this patch in a big rush. Later, the Diebold insider learned that the patches were never certified by the state of Georgia, as required by law.

    Also, the clock inside the system was not fixed, said the insider. Its legendary how strange the outcome was; they ended up having the first Republican governor in who knows when and also strange outcomes in other races. I can say that the counties I worked in were heavily Democratic and elected a Republican. ...

  20. No, this is real and there's new test data out... by JimMarch(equalccw) · · Score: 5, Interesting

    To quote the latest article on the Black Box Voting site (and then some background below that):

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    http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/1954/1559 5.html?1134523376

    Due to security design issues and contractual non-performance, Leon County (Florida) supervisor of elections Ion Sancho told Black Box Voting that he will never use Diebold in an election again. He has requested funds to replace the Diebold system from the county. He will issue a formal announcement to this effect shortly.

    Finnish security expert Harri Hursti proved that Diebold lied to Secretaries of State across the nation when Diebold claimed votes could not be changed on the memory card.

    A test election was run in Leon County today with a total of eight ballots - six ballots voted "no" on a ballot question as to whether Diebold voting machines can be hacked or not. Two ballots, cast by Dr. Herbert Thomson and by Harri Hursti voted "yes" indicating a belief that the Diebold machines could be hacked.

    At the beginning of the test election the memory card programmed by Harri Hursti was inserted into an Optical Scan Diebold voting machine. A "zero report" was run indicating zero votes on the memory card. In fact, however, Hursti had pre-loaded the memory card with plus and minus votes.

    The eight ballots were run through the optical scan machine. The standard Diebold-supplied "ender card" was run through as is normal procedure ending the election. A results tape was run from the voting machine.

    Correct results should have been:

    Yes:2 No:6

    However the results tape read:

    Yes:7 No:1

    The results were then uploaded from the optical scan voting machine into the GEMS central tabulator. The central tabulator is the "mothership" that pulls in all votes from voting machines. The results in the central tabulator read:

    Yes:7 No:1

    This proves that the votes themselves were changed in a one-step process that would not be detected in any normal canvassing procedure - using only a credit-card sized memory card.

    Diebold Elections Systems head of research and development Pat Green specifically told the Cuyahoga County board of elections that votes could not be changed on the memory card.

    According to Public Records responses obtained by Black Box Voting in response to our requests shows that Diebold promulgated this misrepresentation to as many as 800 state and local elections officials.

    In other news, according to Bradblog a stockholder suit was filed today against Diebold by the law offices of Scott and Scott:

    http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00002153.htm

    Permission to reprint granted with link to http://blackboxvoting.org/
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    Jim again. Let me fill you in on the background.

    Six months ago Leon County elections administrator Ion Sancho asked us (Black Box Voting) to "test hack" his Diebold optical scan system. We brought Finnish security expert Harri Hursti and Dr. Hugh Thomson from Florida along.

    Dr. Thomson proved that the central tabulator's database (in MS-Access of all things) can be hacked without a retail copy of MS-Access present. He used Visual Basic to control the MS Jet database engine directly, using very small script files...small enough to be typed in via MS-Windows Notepad at the tabulator console. We already knew the MS-Access database was tamper-friendly but this was real-world proof that you didn't need to bring in and load a copy of Access to tamper. The same things can almost certainly be done in Java and probably other ways as well.

    Harri Hursti pulled off something new.

    The report co-written with Bev Harris proved it's possible to doctor the poll tapes. These are the end-of-day printouts showing the number of votes for each candidate or issue taken in on that machine. It's basically

  21. Sorry to break the news... by guygee · · Score: 4, Insightful

    to the "true believers" that remain among my fellow Americans, but firing Walden W. O'Dell will not automagically bring back integrity to the voting system here in the U.S. Most slashdotters are savvy enough to know that paperless voting using secret, proprietary code can be easily manipulated. We will not be safe from this type of fraud until paperless voting is outlawed in ALL states.

    Also, many slashdotters have knowledge of the "Law of Large Numbers", and know that a well-designed exit poll should be accurate within its designed level of confidence. Large statistical "anomalies" between exit polling and "recorded votes" associated with the 2002 (Georgia, Minnesota), 2004 (Presidential election, many states) and 2005 (Ohio referendums) verge on the quasi-impossible, until you factor in deliberate fraud. Exit polls do not lie, and when the margin of error is exceeded time and again, all with identical bias, we can be sure that the system is being gamed. Exit polls, after all, are how the fairness of elections is assessed in those "corrupt, third-world" countries.

    At least be comforted the "powers that be" that really control the country still feel the need to throw us dogs the "bones" of legitimacy. In the words of Frank Zappa,

    "The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way, and you will see a brick wall at the back of the theater."