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IBM Promotes Linux Partners to Highest Tier

Anonymous Anonmenon writes "Big Blue was at it again today after it promoted the two leading commercial Linux distributions to the highest level tier of its Strategic Alliance Program. From the article: '[The Strategic Alliance Program] is designed to allow independent software vendors (ISV) work through one point of contact within IBM as opposed to navigating through several relationships with representatives from different divisions. The move was billed by executives from all companies as a means to make it simpler for clients to acquire open standards-based Linux hardware, software, and services through integrated sales, distribution and services channels.' The announcement was also heavy on the Java side, with both Red Hat and Novell pledging a 'reinforced commitment' to the Java developer community and J2EE."

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  1. IBM only likes the "L" in LAMP by Mostly+a+lurker · · Score: 3, Informative

    IBM has been a good friend to those parts of the open source community that fit its overall strategy. However, the emphasis on Java shows the importance it places on trying to protect its WebSphere revenue.

  2. What is significant about this announcement? by xmas2003 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While it's nice to read good news like this for the Linux community, this seems more like marketing people on both sides coming up with "something" to justify their existance ... is there some "meat" behind this or am I just missing it?

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    1. Re:What is significant about this announcement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      IBM has promoted these partners to "Super Special Vice-president" of their club. This means they are allowed in the clubhouse without using the secret knock. :)

  3. Java? by RManning · · Score: 5, Funny

    The The announcement was also heavy on the Java side, with both Red Hat and Novell pledging a 'reinforced commitment' to the Java developer community and J2EE.

    IBM is slipping. Don't they know that Java is so 90's?
  4. Novell and Java by slashdotnickname · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So Novell wants to reinforce their commitment to the Java community while at the same time funding Mono, a project porting .NET to Linux/etc...

    interesting... very interesting... (strokes soul patch)

  5. Re:Fantastic by DogDude · · Score: 3, Interesting

    IBM can talk the talk all day but at the end of the day regardless of all the Linux lip service they really don't walk the walk, and probably never will.

    I haven't been an IBM employee for several years, but the friends I still have at IBM say that IBM still isn't eating its own food. They're pretty well standardized with Windows 2000/XP across all of their internal desktops and many of their lower end servers. You'd think that a company beating the OSS drum so violently would at least get Linux working on their own desktops. As it is, the people that I know who work at IBM (sysadmins) have never even seen Linux running on any machines at IBM or otherwise. But maybe they really are pushing OSS heavily on the high end and just ignoring OSS for middle and lightweight applications. It's entirely possible.

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  6. Re:This just in... by Jerry+Coffin · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The titantic that is software arm of IBM is sinking.

    Hmm...I'm not quite sure how you'd decide that. According to IBM's latest 10-Q report, in the quarter ending 30 Sept. 2005, their software division had revenues of a little over 3.8 billion US dollars, and costs of 483 million US dollars. By contrast, their hardware division had revenues of 5.12 billion dollars, but costs of 3.2 billion dollars. IOW, they're showing a gross quarterly profit of about 3.3 billion dollars from software, and only about 1.9 billion from hardware. Looked at on a percentage basis, software looks even better for them: it constitutes almost 18% of their revenues, but only about 3% of their costs.

    Their highest revenue division is services -- but even with the largest revenues, this still has slightly lower profits than their software (about 300 million less per quarter than software).

    As far as sinking goes: their revenue from software is up about 200 million dollars per quarter from a year ago, while their costs are up only about 20 million dollars a quarter. IOW, their total sales are growing, and they're getting better profit margins too!

    Just for comparison, Microsoft's latest 10-Q [warning: Word format, of course] shows they have about 9.6 billion in quarterly revenues (total) and costs of about 6.3 billion, for a gross profit of a bit under 2.6 billion. IOW, IBM's software division produces more profit than Microsoft!

    In fairness, that comparison probably isn't entirely accurate: in Microsoft's case, it's taking essentially all expenses into account, including things like R&D (1.5 billion dollars a quarter!) which probably aren't accounted for on a divisional basis at IBM (though I didn't dig through things enough to be sure about that).

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  7. Re:Fantastic by bckrispi · · Score: 4, Interesting
    IBM can talk the talk all day but at the end of the day regardless of all the Linux lip service they really don't walk the walk, and probably never will.

    Have we forgotten already that the Eclipse foundation started with millions of lines of proprietary code donated by IBM?

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  8. Re:If you need Java compatibility use Jython by abigor · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can type check at compile time with a utility called pychecker. It works very well. So, you can have the advantages of dynamic typing with the safety of static typing by taking this step. The best thing is to automate it, so it runs with your unit tests.

  9. Cool by Trogre · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The The announcement was also heavy on the Java side, with both Red Hat and Novell pledging a 'reinforced commitment' to the Java developer community and J2EE."

    So does this mean we might be seeing a working Java implentation soon that isn't controlled by Sun?

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