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Are Americans Addicted to Technology?

jomammy writes "According to a recent Wired article, the majority of Americans are becoming increasingly dependant on their gadgets. High speed internet seems to be the one most determined to be a 'necessity'. A third of the country is said to pay more than $200.00 a month for their addiction, where 4 out of 10 pay between $100.00 and $150.00 a month. Other items in this list of 'gadgets' include, mp3 players, dvd players, laptops, handhelds, etc." How addicted are we? How addicted are you?

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  1. Ohh Ohhh! I'm So Addicted! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Help! I keep refreshing Slashdot! Oh no!

    1. Re:Ohh Ohhh! I'm So Addicted! by zee-mich · · Score: 2, Funny

      Help! I keep refreshing Tubgirl! Oh no!

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  2. Spec-Tech-ular. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "According to a recent Wired article, the majority of Americans are becoming increasingly dependant on their gadgets."

    And Japan is what? In the dark ages?

    1. Re:Spec-Tech-ular. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      and europe doesnt like their cell-phopnes at _all_

    2. Re:Spec-Tech-ular. by oobob · · Score: 2, Funny

      You forgot about Poland.

    3. Re:Spec-Tech-ular. by Kpau · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Okay... I've had it with the moronic misuse of the word "addicted". I guess most of the West is addicted to electricity, indoor plumbing, and the ability to communicate with each other. I use the Internet for work, shopping, play, education, and research. It is a conduit. People who call this an addiction are just modern day Luddites or those refusing to come out of the water and check out the spooky "dry land". And what about all those "non-Western" countries that find the Internet vital to their infrastructure?

  3. addiction by Clover_Kicker · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can quit any time I want.

    1. Re:addiction by SnprBoB86 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Bender? Are you jacking on in there?

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    2. Re:addiction by Frequency+Domain · · Score: 5, Funny

      I told my wife "To prove how much I love you, I'd give up the internet for a year. To prove how much you love me, you won't ask me to."

    3. Re:addiction by rgoldste · · Score: 5, Funny

      Quitting is easy. I've done it several times already.

    4. Re:addiction by jcr · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'd have to say that "addiction" is a badly overused term these days. Anytime someone has a bad habit, they'll call it an addiction, as if doing so removes any responsibility for changing their behavior.

      -jcr

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    5. Re:addiction by DCstewieG · · Score: 5, Funny

      I brought up a similar rhetorical question with my girlfriend....boy was that barking up the wrong tree. I hope you got a better response than me! We're fine but that night was a bit awkward.

    6. Re:addiction by TheSpoom · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Love means never asking your partner to prove it.

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    7. Re:addiction by kfg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When I tell you that I love you
      Don't test my love
      Accept my love
      Don't test my love
      Because maybe
      I don't love you
      All that much

      -Dan Bern

      KFG

  4. Pfft by seinman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh, please. This is just more useless drivel written to sell magazines. Just because something makes your life easier or more fun, doesn't mean everyone is "addicted" because they enjoy using it. Are Americans adicted to tooth brushes, too? 99% of us admit to using them at least daily! OH NO!

    1. Re:Pfft by umbrellasd · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Yes, internet is becoming a public utility. It's like saying that the phone is an addictive device. I suppose it could be. So could anything whether it's a technology or not. Are you addicted to a juicer? A blender? Are you addicted to a hammer (maybe you're a carpenter and can't live without one). Not a very insightful article.

      I read a lot of books. Guess that's a technology since it requires a printing press. Guess I'm an addict.

    2. Re:Pfft by rolfwind · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think a more compelling question would be: Is all this technology making us more productive? Or does it simply facilitate our slacking off with more diversions?

    3. Re:Pfft by kebes · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree. We are not "addicted" to technology or gadgets or music or food or any number of other things that enrich our lives. I have a friend in psychology (actually neuroscience), and he often emphasises that in diagnosis, the difference between "something you like" and "addiction" is "does it disrupt the person's ability to live their life?" If the thing in question makes the person do questionable things, hurt themselves, or otherwise make it difficult for them to live a normal and happy life, then it is addiction (similarly, most psych conditions, like "depression" are analyzed in terms of how much it affects a person's ability to live their life, achieve their goals, etc.).

      All of this to say that you cannot classify our like of technology as an "addiction." Are we selling our first-born children in order to satisfy our lust for new gadgets? Hardly. Is this fixation with technology making it difficult for us to live our lives? No. (In fact the technology sometimes makes our lives easier--hence it is a (partially) pragmatic desire.)

      I find the hyperbole of "we are addicted to X" annoying (where X, these days, is often "video games" or "the internet" or whatever). I don't go into convulsions when I don't read slashdot for a day. I am employable and happy. I certainly wouldn't be stealing TVs and selling them on the black market in order to satisfy my insane lust for slashdot...

    4. Re:Pfft by Vellmont · · Score: 4, Insightful


      I think a more compelling question would be: Is all this technology making us more productive? Or does it simply facilitate our slacking off with more diversions?

      What a strange way to think of life. Is life all about being "productive"? I'd have thought the gadgets are supposed to make our lives better, however you wish to define better. Making it more productive makes it sound as if the only purpose to being alive is work and produce a product. Is that really what you think it's all about?

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    5. Re:Pfft by flyonthewall · · Score: 4, Funny

      Until you reach the magic number of 42 it is.

      Squeek!

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    6. Re:Pfft by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Is all this technology making us more productive?

      Ah, how I wish I could take you back in a time machine to the late 60's, then the 1920's. On our first stop in the 60's, I'd take you around various companies and show you the massive number of keypunchers, programmers, analysts, and other Managment Information Systems people who keep their companies working. I'd then take you to a company too small for a mainframe and let you witness the poor fellows struggle with mountains of paperwork.

      On our next stop, we'd drop by the 1920's. No automation here. You can literally find hundreds of typists per company, all lined up in rows. Secretaries abound, filing documents left and right. Personal assistents follow company executives around, keeping track of every minor detail. In short, lots of manpower for a return that we can realize today with a few PCs and other electronic gadgets.

      I haven't even gotten into manufacturing, and how technology has changed the world there.

      In short, technology has made us more productive. It doesn't always seem like it with all the technological distractions we now have, but you have to understand that the efficiency of modern technology is what gives us time and energy for those distractions. The greatest challenge today is to find better ways of optimizing business and personal matters. All the low-hanging fruit has already been realized, so we're on to the difficult part of squeezing out efficiency a few percent at a time.

    7. Re:Pfft by flosofl · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Making it more productive makes it sound as if the only purpose to being alive is work and produce a product.

      That's seems to be the pervading theme in our (US) culture. I work for a multi-national, and I can say that my contemporaries in Europe and SA don't have the same attitude. I'm not saying they do bad work or don't work hard. It's simply they seem to view work as a means to an end, where the US seems to view work as that end.

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    8. Re:Pfft by plover · · Score: 4, Funny
      Are we selling our first-born children in order to satisfy our lust for new gadgets?

      Exactly which gadgets did you have in mind?

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    9. Re:Pfft by rolfwind · · Score: 3, Informative
      What a strange way to think of life. Is life all about being "productive"? I'd have thought the gadgets are supposed to make our lives better, however you wish to define better. Making it more productive makes it sound as if the only purpose to being alive is work and produce a product. Is that really what you think it's all about?


      What a strange way of extrapolating productive.

      I didn't only mean work, I simply meant "Yielding favorable or useful results; constructive."

      It need not be work-related.

      Is excercise machine X (gadget) more productive (toward losing weight, staying healthy) than the simple and humble jumprope and stretching exercises/yoga/pilates/your_choice? The former being an expensive gadget and the other can be very, very cheap.

      IMHO, the cheap-o version is better in most cases.

      The purpose of gadgets should be making lives easier, but most of the time, the majority seem to exist for the purpose of being sold, with little regard to the end user - consider the UI and other factors.
    10. Re:Pfft by Nutria · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's seems to be the pervading theme in our (US) culture. I work for a multi-national, and I can say that my contemporaries in Europe and SA don't have the same attitude. I'm not saying they do bad work or don't work hard. It's simply they seem to view work as a means to an end, where the US seems to view work as that end.

      Three words: Puritan Work Ethic.

      Even if you're born in California, and your parents are New Age weirdos, the phrases "a little work never killed anyone" and "no one ever drowned in their own sweat" have been part of (European) America since 1620.

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    11. Re:Pfft by Thangodin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly right. We have become more efficient--so much so that the four day work week has been a serious economic consideration since the 80's. The reason is that we have so much technological leverage that the only alternative is to create mountains of useless garbage and convince people that they need it... oh, right, this would include all those technological gadgets. :) But wander through a super department store sometimes and ask yourself, if half of this stuff disappeared tomorrow, would anyone really miss it? Choice isn't of much benefit if most of what is being offered is bad, and it's hard to tell the difference. Even brand names mean nothing now; when was the last time you were able to buy a good pair of Levis? A lot of this stuff is just landfill--either nobody buys it, and it goes directly into the trash, or someone buys it, and discovers that it's trash shortly thereafter. Either way, it's garbage--wasted time, energy, and resources.

      But when you consider how much time people waste with technology, you should also consider that executives could and did waste the same amount of time via their manpower driven alternatives, requesting pointless information, endless re-edits of documents (requiring the secretarial pool to retype the same document, with minor changes, over and over,) and maintaining expensive entourages that required far more time to manage than you can spend instant messaging your friends. And I do mean required--you don't have to instant message your friends, but you did have to manage your staff.

      My wife worked at a law firm. The old lawyers, not comfortable with technology, used their computers to play solitaire, while dictating into tape recorders and getting secretaries to type the letter, over and over and over again as they read it and noticed mistakes. The younger lawyers typed their letters directly into their computer, edited it there, and got exactly what they wanted directly. The old guard took three days to produce the letter, the young ones took half an hour. The difference in efficiency, and sheer cost, is staggering. Of course, the old boys just passed these costs on to their clients...

    12. Re:Pfft by xTantrum · · Score: 3, Funny
      If the thing in question makes the person do questionable things, hurt themselves, or otherwise make it difficult for them to live a normal and happy life, then it is addiction
      so like a wife?
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    13. Re:Pfft by hawkeyeMI · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I went to Niger this summer, where I was even out of range of the nearest cell tower, had no electricity, and was surrounded by goats and chickens. I spent two weeks without most of the technology I'm used to, and that's a lot of technology.

      You know what? I didn't mind one bit. No withdrawl symptoms. Strand me in a city in the US though, and I'd start to feel the pain. It seems like it's partly a function of the environment.

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    14. Re:Pfft by Vellmont · · Score: 2, Informative

      Productive.. product. When you're productive you're efficient at producing something. It's not a strange way of extrapolating the word at all, but exactly what the word means. It's also a word constantly used to describe work efficiency as in "increasing productivity", especially when technology is used.

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    15. Re:Pfft by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, evidence suggests that the first agrarian societies had a much worse quality of life than the hunter gatherers. They had to work way harder (tending and defending crops), had less leisure time, were less healthy and died earlier.

      But yes, after we got over that productivity is definitely nice. Of course, if you're obsessed with it....

    16. Re:Pfft by Gulthek · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I didn't only mean work, I simply meant "Yielding favorable or useful results; constructive."

      As yes. Results. Like in the private sector. If Jack is only playing so that he can work better then he isn't really playing is he?

    17. Re:Pfft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Is excercise machine X (gadget) more productive (toward losing weight, staying healthy) than the simple and humble jumprope and stretching exercises/yoga/pilates/your_choice? The former being an expensive gadget and the other can be very, very cheap.

      IMHO, the cheap-o version is better in most cases.


      As a former fat guy who is now decently non-fat and knows a couple people in the same condition, your HO is wrong in at least three cases that I know of. The feedback given by Machine X in the form of calories burnt or miles traveled is a very effective motivator. Excercise is tedious. Attaching an ever-increasing number to it is extremely psychologically helpful, and all Machine X's that I've seen do that for you. Many of them also decrease joint pain over the non-gadget version of the excercise, and if you've never excercised day after day as a 300 pound guy, it tends to be really, really tough on the joints.

      I spent 1000 bucks on the fancy excercise equipment, and I'd do it again in a hearbeat, so please, if you have fat friends who would rather not be, don't give them that advice unless they're very, very poor.

    18. Re:Pfft by CosmeticLobotamy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Are ringtones, iPods and Digital Cable making us more productive?

      Do flourescent lightbulbs make for better sandwiches?

  5. the first step is admitting you have a problem by cygnus · · Score: 4, Funny
    How addicted are we? How addicted are you?
    shut up shut up shut up!!

    :)

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  6. How addicted? by PasteEater · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, I'm on vacation and I'm reading Slashdot.

    That about says it all.

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  7. Hey.. by 88NoSoup4U88 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Are Americans Addicted to Technology?

    They misspelled 'porn'.

  8. Addicted? Or Dependant? by taskforce · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Does dependant necessarily == addicted?

    If this is the case, am I addicted to food?

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  9. Yes, yes we are. by Ruff_ilb · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And this is NOTHING to be concerned about. Technology is defined as: " 1. The application of science, especially to industrial or commercial objectives. 2. The scientific method and material used to achieve a commercial or industrial objective. " Ok - FIRE is a technology. So are things as simple as forks, or spoons, or plates. The human race is addicted to technology, for better or for worse. America's only addicted to the most recent advancements more than the rest of the world. There is nothing wrong with this "Addiction" - They say it like it's a bad thing. Without technology, we'd still be running around like apes.

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    1. Re:Yes, yes we are. by Lesrahpem · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yeah, I'd say we are addicted to technology. We're a narcissistic people who are obsessed with the things we have created. I don't mean just Americans, I mean humans in general. It's perfecttly normal. The only way it becomes dangerous is when we reach a point where we rely on technology so much we literally could not survive without it.

      People can say all they like about technology causing people to slack off, but there is no reason why it shouldn't. Why build things that can make work easier when we can build things that remove the need for work? They say that modern civilization is only possible because we have an abundance of food and can spend our time on other endeavors. We are now experiencing what will turn into an abundance of time. After enough time passes we will eventually reach a level of advancement where we won't need to work anymore, and will have developed safe guards so that we don't have to worry about losing our technology. This, of course, is assuming that we don't blow ourselves up first.

  10. You say it like it's a bad thing... by mrchaotica · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...but is it, really? Yes, we're dependent on our technology, but calling it an "addiction" is merely one perspective. Instead, couldn't we just as easily call it symbiosis? It could be that we're taking the first steps towards becoming cyborgs, or something.

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  11. Clinical addiction or Gorwing soft. by Irvu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If we are talking cliniacal definitions of addiction, i.e. falsely convinced that we cannot live without something and willing to orob/maim/kill/destroy our lives, to obtain it then it depends. I think ther we need to specify the technology in question.

    If we are talking a general "growing too soft/dependent upon specific tech" then I would say yes, especially with the internet. I know far too many people who feel the need to have a machine up all the time.

    But I think we should really go more basic than that; Electricity.

    The standards that we are used to in America, and the rest of the industrialized world (stable, widely available power that rarely if ever goes down) is a) uncommon in the rest of the world, and b) an anomoly in human existence. Few of my peers know how to make a fire or even what to do when the power goes down (hint, the electric can opener will no longer work).

    The level of panic surrounding the Y2k bug should have made this clear to anyone. Far too many people (some of them policymakers) panicked at the thought of "global power outages" and, as Katrina showed, far too many were left stranded, unprepared, and unaided when a real disaster struck.

    In my opinion "addiction" to mp3 players is just icing on the cake.

      in general)I know too many others who *have no clue*

  12. Bah. We're a buncha luddites. by SoupIsGood+Food · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Compared to the insanely cool, science-fiction advanced consumer tech, everything from cell phones to high-speed internet available in Europe, Japan and South Korea, the US is dowdy and backwards. Cingular ain't got squat on DoMoCo, and even a Mielle washer/dryer set is lightyears ahead of the stone-age clunkers Kenmore and Maytag inflict on the American household.

    When it comes to technology obsession, the High Street in London and the Akihabara in Tokyo are where it's at.

    SoupIsGood Food

    1. Re:Bah. We're a buncha luddites. by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Compared to the insanely cool, science-fiction advanced consumer tech, everything from cell phones to high-speed internet available in Europe, Japan and South Korea, the US is dowdy and backwards. Cingular ain't got squat on DoMoCo, and even a Mielle washer/dryer set is lightyears ahead of the stone-age clunkers Kenmore and Maytag inflict on the American household.
      That's because the US is very fond of wasting ressources. It also wastes space with urban sprawl, huge houses that cost a fortune.

      In Europe, they've been forced to conserve ressources. People will expect stuff to last for 10+ years, and the stuff most of the time does.

      First time I had a good look at an european washing machine (when a friend asked me to fix it) I was totally flabberghasted. It was more than 15 years ago, yet I never had dreamed I could see a microprocessor-controlled washing machine (fortunately, the trouble was just a dirty position sensor). I was able to get to the trouble spot with only a screwdriver and I did not have to move the machine: all components were near the top or the front and were accessible by removing the front or top panel. Plus the machine could take a full load, yet it was only 40 centimeter wide: the tub is set on it's side, with an axis parallel to the front.

      Americans are on the "if it ain't broke, don't improve it" mode, and when it comes to shrinking ressources, they are always caught with their pants down. Witness how the US automotive industry is in a tailspin since gas prices soared. Just like 30 years ago.

  13. drive 5 miles to use a pay phone???? by stonebeat.org · · Score: 4, Interesting

    i have friend whose dad is a tech junkie. All kinds of gadgets high-speed, workstation laptops etc. One day his son (my friend) got fed with it all, and moed to middle of Mojave desert, where he get no electricity, and certainly no television signal. And he has to drive 5 miles just to get to the closest payfone.

    But his daughter, who has doesn't even know what a television is, is very wise for her age (i.e. 7 yrs). Here, I make a distinction between knowledge and wisdom. She may not have all the knowledge, but she is certainly wiser then other kids of her age or even some grown ups.

    Would you do something like this? Would you make such a daring move for you children's sake?

    1. Re:drive 5 miles to use a pay phone???? by kebes · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Would you make such a daring move for you children's sake?

      You are purposefully implying, with this question, that it is a good thing (to prevent your child from using technology). Would I do something daring for the sake of my child? You bet. Do I think that removing them from technology represents a case where the child is better off? No.

      Your one data point notwithstanding, I believe that a person is more likely to be happy, healthy, and intelligent if they have access to the full depth and breadth of what the world has to offer (including such things as: travelling to other countries, modern healtcare, books of all types, the internet, learning different languages, etc.).

      Restricting a child's access to tools is silly. Smart kids will be smart no matter what. Giving them access to more of the world will make them more worldly.

  14. A necessity as well as an addiction by Hannah+E.+Davis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    On one hand, yes I'm addicted -- I can barely go a day without at least briefly connecting to the internet, and I don't even want to know how many hours I've logged playing my little gnome mage on World of Warcraft.

    However, for many of us, the dependence is more than just a regular old physical/psychological addiction. My marks at school, for example, depend on my being able to get on a computer and access the internet on a regular basis. Many assignments are made available solely through a class website or WebCT, and in two of my classes this past term, every single assignment had to be handed in via the Unix handin command (or the web-based Windows equivalent). Admittedly, I am a computer science student, but there aren't all that many courses in which computers or other forms of technology are completely absent -- even arts students are expected to write essays, and few professors will accept handwritten submissions these days.

  15. Yes. by Valar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm addicted to fire, electricity, housing, cooked food and sharpened metal tools.

    Or maybe sometimes technology improves your life so you use it.

    Addiction is when something makes your life worse, but you keep using it because you are irrationally drawn to it.

  16. Addicted to Taxes, too by renimar · · Score: 5, Funny

    By that reasoning, we must also be addicted to taxes, because I know I pay well more than $200/month in income, sales and other taxes. Who do I talk to about giving up taxes?

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  17. Re:Expensive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    In Canada, 3Mb/s is $48 per month... cheaper if you go with a smaller provider !

    $48 per month? That's like $3.34 US! How do you guys get internet so cheap up north?

  18. Re:$200 a month!!! by C0deM0nkey · · Score: 2, Informative

    That $200.00 a month is likely for the total tech consumption (i.e. Internet access plus all you spend on tech toys, gadgets and related services) for the month - not for internet access. Internet access is between $20.00 and $50.00 a month - just like up north.

  19. Re:$200 a month!!! by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wow Internet is expensive down south.

    Wow you didn't read the article.

    That bill includes telephone, internet, and TV feeds. In much of the US DSL is down to $14.95, and high speed cable or FIOS is running about $50 for a 15 mb/sec feed in some areas. My cable service just announced a 30 mbit/sec premium service, and has hinted at 50 mbit/sec.

  20. +5 Funny? by jZnat · · Score: 4, Funny

    Should be +5 Informative. We all know that the Internet is for porn...

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  21. I'd answer but... by h4ckintosh · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have to answer my cell phonce, txt my friend and check my email first.

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  22. Well it gets worse by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How about that whole 'it costs $200 per month to pay for this addiction' crap.

    Just buying 1 laptop could account for an entire year. Is buying 1 laptop an addiction nowadays?

    Guys it is a slow newsday. This reporter needed his christmas bonus so he put in a small non-article with a nice headline that while at the same time being properly alarmist is also nice and safe not to ruin the giftmas feeling.

    It also got iPod in it wich is always good.

    Bleh.

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  23. "Dependent upon the government" by Irvu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I so love that phrase because it suggests weakness of some sort. As if governments didn't exist to protect and help the people and anyone who thinks otherwize deserves a rude awakening.

    In the case of Katrina the very government agencies that we have formed, funded and trained to care for the sick, the elderly, the disposessed of our society, were placed in the hands of self-centered morons whose only interest was in settling the "shirtsleeves up or down" issue. People who could not leave because they were too sick and didn't own cars were being told to "take some cash and drive away". Even now no reliable plan exists to get them home and Karl Rove is directing the reconstruction efforts.

    We form governments to protect us as a whole, because individual humans, however many guns they have, are weak and likely to die. To suggest that people who looked to the government that they supported to help them were "weak" or overly dependent" is in my opinion incorrect. Rather wwe should say that the government failed the people. The government failed in its most essential function. What's worse it did so because people let it fail, perhaps even made it fail not because it should not have succeeded.

  24. How about... by Belial6 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about electricity, indoor plumbing, toilets in general. Don't forgent anything to do with farming. Plows, harvesters, trucks to ship food. I would say that if all technology disappeard tomorrow, 99% of the population would die. So, yes we are addicted, as most of the world is.

  25. Re:Only $200/mo by strstrep · · Score: 2, Informative

    Where I am (Northeastern US) 1.5-5 Mbps is typical, though I have seen some higher priced residential services going to around 10 Mbps. Typically, there are no download limits or excess usage fees, but they reserve the right to reduce your bandwidth for "abuse." I haven't run into that problem yet---I don't use peer-to-peer applications, but I do download software for my Linux machines frequently. I think the "abuse" line is a tool for them to prevent people from saturating their connections 24/7 using peer-to-peer traffic or on hosts that have become zombies.

    Different ISPs have different policies regarding inbound traffic---one ISP near me allows all the ports I've tried inbound, whereas another blocks ports like 80 and 23.

  26. No: Americans are addicted to communications by postbigbang · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Case: email Case: IM Case: online gaming Case: forums Case: surfing Case: RSS Case: interactive purchasing Case: downloading entertainment Case: blogging Case: social infrastructure Go on. Run the sieve. Tell me what's not addictive. We're social and interactive creatures. Ask the question again. What knid of dumbass question is this? Yo: Cowboy Neal--> learn to ask a reasonable question.

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    ---- Teach Peace. It's Cheaper Than War.
  27. Steps backwards by Animats · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Some things are getting harder.

    My vetenarian was complaining today that she used to have a system which used Ricochet, a dumb terminal in her truck, and a Xenix server in her office to access horse medical records remotely. This provided a 38Kb/s connection. Since Ricochet went out of business, that's no longer possible. Data over cellular is less available, slower, harder to set up, and more expensive. Yes, you can set up a VPN, and "web enable" the server, but it's more trouble than it is worth.

    1. Re:Steps backwards by jcnnghm · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Ricochet service was well ahead of its time. I was able to get about a 512 kilobit connection reliably in my house from the service a few years before I could get either DSL or cable modem service. Still couldn't get DSL or cable internet until well after Ricochet went under.

      The only problem with Ricochet is that I am almost certain I was the only person in my neighborhood that even new the service existed.

      A father once asked his son what he was going to do with a movie theater he had purchased. The son told him he was going to put new coverings on the seats. The father told the son the first thing he needs to put on the seats is assholes.

      Metricom wasn't putting enough assholes on the seats. They were also overdelivering for what they were advertising, which as I recall was 128 down or so.

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      You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer. - Winston Churchill
  28. Maybe, but by SebNukem · · Score: 2, Informative

    in fact, Americans are addicted to money.

    (It's no flamebait, just a fact - it's Ze capitalist country after all.)

  29. Remember the Eloi by krysolid · · Score: 2, Funny

    Anyone read "The Time Machine" and remember the Eloi, the surface dwelling
    flower children that used the technology that was left them, but after
    generations forgot how it worked. Do you happen to recall that they were
    food for the cannibalistic Morlocks? This is what happens with dependency.

    Think back though history and does anyone know when there was ever a group
    of people dependent on something, that another group did not find out about
    and take advantage of? Opium/China, Oil/USA, Grain/Russis, Cocaine/USA,
    Cheap Labor/USA, CheapGadgets/USA ...

    Lucky we have lots and lots of money in the back isn't it? Huh??????

  30. Re:Addicted? by munpfazy · · Score: 2, Funny
    I can go all the way around the world without using any technology!


    That's a mighty long swim.
  31. It may be true... by azuredragon23 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...but the article makes it sounds as if it is a bad thing. Without tech, we would be reduced to killing each other for wealth, power, resources, women, etc. Now that we do have it... oh.. heh... la dee daa...

  32. Forest people by Maljin+Jolt · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Forest tribes are addicted to technology just like americans. They cannot live without bows, arrows, and fire tools.

    --
    There you are, staring at me again.
  33. well in my case by bdigit · · Score: 3, Funny

    I am typing this comment from my toilet on my laptop... oh and I'm American

  34. Get real... by dextroz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You really forgot Japan this time! American's suck at technology in most cases. Half og you don't know how to program your VCR. The other half never knew anything about SMS either. The people who are really 'into' technology knowledge are the Finnish/Swedes/Dutch. The people who have successfully ingrained technology into their lifestyle are the Japanese.

    Get your head outta your ass, there is more to the world than the US and by no means are you the ideal standard.

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    Where's my free iPod!? Until then, I'll settle for a kiss...
  35. me? addicted?!?!?! by bmc152006 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    i find it strange that i have absolutely nothing to do when my internet goes down....

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    "Times have not become more violent, they have just become more televised." - Marilyn Manson
  36. Not a recent thing by Bongo+Bill · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The whole world has been addicted to technology as soon as agriculture was invented and the human population exceeded the number that could be sustained by hunting and gathering alone.

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    ...but is it art?
  37. The military is addicted by floki · · Score: 2, Informative

    If one defines addiction as not being able to live without something then the military is definitely addicted to technology. A friend of mine during his military service took part in a joint training involving various of armies from NATO states. He always said the easiest thing to do was to secretly snitch the American's GPS devices. They were totally lost without them. Just his 2 cents.

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    from the to-stupid-for-words dept.
  38. Denial of the addiction by redzebra · · Score: 2, Interesting

    is often considered as a typical sign of it.

    According to wikipedia , addiction is a compulsion to repeat a behavior regardless of its consequences.

    I know a bunch of people who are trully addicted to e-mail. They feel the need to check it during the whole day. They 'll use it as their sole way to communicate with other people. They 'll even send mails to the guy/girl sitting next to him/her rather than talk to them.

    And as a result they loose their ability to normaly communicate and socially interract with people. They'll feel lost and cut off from the world when they don't have access to their email. I would say this is typical compulsary behavior regardless of its consequences. However while many people start
    falling in that catagory, few are going to admit it.

    red.

  39. a terrible article by Zebra_X · · Score: 2, Insightful

    from the article:

    Some people freely admit to being high-tech junkies.

    "The internet connection is my lifeline," said Jennifer Strother, a mother of two young children who lives in Smithfield, Virginia. "It's the connection to friends, e-mail -- especially for stay-at-home moms. I'm hungry for adult conversation and any news that isn't Dora the Explorer or Blue's Clues."


    How is this an admission to being a hi tech junkie? The very reason for her use of the internet is not tech, but communication. As with most of the article the authors attempt to classify us as "junkies" fails. He or she fails to see that for the most part, tech purchases are so that we may consume media such as TV or Music or communicate with others. This is not an hi tech additiction as the author would have us believe, because the technology itself is not the motivator for purchase.

  40. Dude, this is the 21st century by samantha · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Only dweebs that think only in terms of "consumer electronics" and some model of sin if we aren't using manual typewriters would miss the fact that internet, cell phones, home computers, etc. help us do what we do a lot more productively and with a lot more information and convenience. The face of media is changing as increasingly all of us browse and share information and opinions. The entire face of business has changed. Large sections of how we socialize and with whom have changed to include a much larger circle. Are we "addicted" to more abundant and productive living? You bet! And as long as there is an ounce of gumption and worth in us we will continue to be. It is a good thing.