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10 Biggest Microsoft Surprises of 2005

IZ Reloaded writes "The Microsoft Watch has a top 10 list of the biggest Microsoft surprises of the year. Among the surprises are Internet Explorer rising from the dead, Microsoft gets RSS and Microsoft Office team blogging. From Microsoft Watch: MS 'gets' RSS: While some folks were less than overjoyed that Microsoft was tinkering with the "little orange RSS box," Microsoft ended up looking like a company with a clue when it came to outlining its company-wide RSS strategy in 2005. RSS support will be built into not just Internet Explorer 7.0, but also Outlook 12 and Windows Vista itself. Almost all Microsoft blogs and sites have RSS feeds these days. RSS is gospel in Redmond these days."

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  1. surprises? by BushCheney08 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    5. Microsoft refuses to take the EC seriously
    7. Redmond still can't find a way to shake its shoddy security image


    I'm not really sure why these two are considered surprises. These seem more like expectations than anything.

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  2. Rises from the dead? by spacefight · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hu? IE was never dead, maybe development of IE but certainly not its userbase.

  3. Number One a Surprise? by parasonic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. IE rises from the dead: After insisting that Internet Explorer was an inextricable part of Windows, Microsoft abruptly changed course and decided to develop and deliver a new standalone version of its browser, after all. Nothing like a little competition to open new doors (and windows).

    Doesn't look like much of a surprise to me. If they're going to want to compete with Google with their Web-based Office products, they're going to want to have a semi-proprietary (and predictable since they own and develop it!) platform on which to work on their competitive edge: IE.

  4. "Gets groupthink" is more like it by marktwen0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Do they really, or is this just the fad du jour up in Redmond? It's more like Uncle Bill saw demonstration of RSS and liked it as a basis to further his vision of pervasive fee-based web services, a vision where MSFT is squarely situated as the tollbooth in the middle of everything.

    Sure, they have the feeds everywhere and have built the protocol into their core products, but that doesn't mean they "get it" in the same sense that you or I "get it." It's more like RSS it the kool-ade of the month, just like "security-security-security" was last January (or was it in 2004?), and "developers-developers-developers" was a few months back.

    I'm so disillusioned with MSFT and its leapard's spots that never change: embrace, extend, vanquish, bugify and feature-encumber with more bugs. Then churn the non-compatible and bug-rich versions to pump up revenues.

    They "get it," maybe, but only to the extent that it gets them theirs: they want to own all the tollbooths on the web-services highway.

    1. Re:"Gets groupthink" is more like it by Generic+Guy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Great post. I've never seen such a succinct and accurate post about the 'new Microsoft', which is mostly like the old Microsoft (pervasive everywhere, but now incorporating "online").

      Every few years there is enough sea change in computing and technology that Microsoft has to put on a "nice face", and that is much of what this list is about. It is simply the Embrace part of a new Microsoft cycle of embrace- extend- extinguish. RSS is just buzzword du jour which as the dominant name in computing they feel they must have a part in whilst they figure out a way to charge money for it. Similarly, their "open document" push is more of a way to compete with ODF without actually supporting ODF (publishing a tagging scheme while hiding the operation of certain tags still means its proprietary).

      Several of the items at the end of the article tie into Live services. With moderate success in Xbox Live, MS is trying to push Office and .NET into such pay per use online services. Soon we will need a "tollbooth" Slashdot icon for Microsoft articles.

      Tollbooth in the middle of all web-services, indeed.

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  5. Re:I dont 'get' RSS by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is MS, its being put into Internet Explorer, and hence its in the OS.

    Looking properly however, I can actually see some niceness if a proper API can be developed. Things like checking for software updates, event notification, scanning the security audit logs (subscribe to the domain login failure event list for instance).

    Just because the blog world has abused it for headlines doesn't mean thats its only use.

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  6. Live by spellraiser · · Score: 4, Insightful
    9. No one says no to the marketers: After redefining "Project Green" as a strategy rather than an end-point, Microsoft marketers couldn't stop themselves. Now almost all the Microsoft business applications are being rechristened as "Dynamics." And most of the MSN applications and services are being switched to "Live" (as in Windows Live Messenger, Windows Live Search, etc.). That's an awful lot of rebranding to pull off all at once. Just ask Microsoft's confused partners, customers and press corps.

    And the number one point of confusion?

    'So, the old stuff was Dead, right?'

    No, seriously - what the heck is 'Live' supposed to mean? Any ideas?

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  7. Re:Microsoft and RSS by Golias · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What made me chuckle was: "RSS support will be built into not just Internet Explorer 7.0, but also Outlook 12 and Windows Vista itself"

    "Quick! There's a feature out there that a small fraction of users find useful! Let's bolt it directly onto the OS!"

    Of course, considering the Dashboard in Mac OS X 10.4, this could just be another example of Microsoft following Apple's example.

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  8. XML---Hmmmm by elecngnr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Although I am an dedicated Mac guy, this is not an attempt at a flame of MS....and I hope the following post proves that:

    I get a little scared everytime MS gets interested in adopting some standard. So I will be interested to see what they do in terms of XML. The reason is basically due to some of their other forays into standards. The most publicized would be Java. However, some of you may also be aware of MS's use (misuse) of the Kerberos standard. Rather than use the standard, they co-opted it slightly by using fields previously unused in Kerberos. While the jury was still out last time I checked on whether this degraded the security of Kerberos, I just do not understand why they felt the need to change it at all.....especially when they are adamant about not telling anyone what the heck they did exactly so someone--other than MS--can determine if what they did has some potential for holes or cross system interoperability problems.

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  9. Plus ca change by FishandChips · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There were no surprises from Microsoft in 2005. They have ended the year as they began it: fighting, bullying and litigating. Unless Microsoft decides to do a deal with the EC and various other parties, chances are they will end 2006 in the same way too.

    The "surprises" in the article are at best changes of nuance and pretty darn piffling. So Microsoft gets keen on RSS and the Office team starts to blog? Only in a very boring corporation suffering from serious organizational arthritis would this be considered news. The proceedings of the 23rd convention of the Chinese communist party would hold more interest.

    It's hard to think there will be any surprises from Microsoft for as long as Gates, Ballmer and their supporters are in such tight charge. Mabye events or Wall Street will force some change (all those Xbox zillions pouring down the manhole cover), but until then it looks to be strictly yesterday's men and yesterday's business practices.

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  10. Re:Microsoft and RSS by Thuktun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Quick! There's a feature out there that a small fraction of users find useful! Let's bolt it directly onto the OS!" Of course, considering the Dashboard in Mac OS X 10.4, this could just be another example of Microsoft following Apple's example.

    Sadly, some parts of Microsoft seem to believe that their "embrace and extend" philosophy is actual innovation.

    For the greater part, "embrace and pervert" more accurately portrays their actual behavior. For anyone who thinks this is flamebait, read up on what they did adding Kerberos to Windows 2000, for instance. It's probably debatable whether they do this deliberately or if it's plain, old incompetence.